Nintendo could make a killing going 3rd party*

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#1 gamevet77
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*Nintendo should stay in the handheld market cause they own it.  On the console side they could make a killing going 3rd party

 

Ever since the n64 nintendo has struggled with hardware sales.  Yes the Wii is the one exception but lets get real about the wii sales.  A big portion of the wii sales were soccer moms, old people, and casual gamers who don't buy or play games on a usual basis.  This is supported by the fact that very very very few games outside of the ones made by nintendo sold well.

The WiiU is struggling in sales and 3rd parties are dumping nintendo support like a bad habit. Factor that in that the hardware is vastly under powered to the competition and not much cheaper is a recepie for disaster.

Iwata in my opinion is also to blame for this company's downfall.  He is not making the right decisions for Nintendo as the company to succeed.

 

Now imagine the possibilities.  Nintendo going 3rd party and releasing a mario game on both the xbox and playstation. With the market of both consoels nintendo would make a killing in profit.  I could easily see Mario selling 10million+ on each console and there is always the possibility of DLC like added levels and such.

Combine that with Nintendo's catalog of fantastic hits and putting them for purchase on both live and psn it just equals money.

Too much sense?

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#2 1PMrFister
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1.) We just had this thread a couple days ago.

2.) Even when the N64 and Gamecube were selling at thier worst, Nintendo still turned a profit with each sale. The Wii-U is their first major home console that they're actually taking a loss with each system sold, but that doesn't mean that can't change down the line. Nintendo going third-party is never happening, or at the very least, not for a loooooong time.

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#3 SNESMaster420
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Well, this generation will determine that I believe. I plan on fully supporting the Wii U and I hope it picks up speed.

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#4 nini200
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These threads keep coming up from fanboys that don't want to buy Nintendo systems but want to play Nintendo games yet bash Nintendo Games. They are all sooo very original and this actually is System Wars material. Requesting a lock and I would report you but I'm not going to do that.
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#5 YoshiYogurt
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They will never do that. They've said it already.
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#6 bonesawisready5
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No. You're wrong and you need to understand why so you stop suggesting stupid things like this.

New Super Mario Bros U has sold over 2.15 million copies at $60. With a development budget of $10 million more than likely. That's $129 million in revenue generated, 13x the probable budget of the title.

Wii U software sales were at 13.42 million as of March 31st worldwide. The 2.6 million copies of Nintendo Land largely don't count since it was bundled, so take away Nintendo's first party 2.15 million sales of NSMBU from that 13.42 number. That's roughly 11 million games sold that aren't made by Nintendo and each nets Nintendo 30% profit. If each game is sold for at least $30 and Nintendo gets 30% of that ($9 per game) that's roughly $990 million in revenue generated. And that is with poor Wii U software sales across the board.

So you tell me, how they should walk away from more than half a billion dollars in revenue from third party software sales, not even counting all of the money they earn off first party titles?

Not even counting that Mario Kart 7 (8 million) and 3D Land (8 million) generated over $640 million in revenue?

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#7 bonesawisready5
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Well, this generation will determine that I believe. I plan on fully supporting the Wii U and I hope it picks up speed.

SNESMaster420

They can sell 20 million Wii U's over 6 years and they will still have more than enough money to release consoles for decades, unless they get into like 10 different RRoD $1 Billion disasters in a short time frame.

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#8 UssjTrunks
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I would definitely support Nintendo going third party.

I used to be a huge Nintendo fanboy before I moved onto PC exclusively following the GameCube generation. I'm tired of Nintendo's antics. Ever since the GameCube they've been a generation behind in terms of hardware and have been coming up with all sorts of silly gimmicks as an excuse for having shitty hardware. This is the secret to their profitability. The Wii, for example, was just GameCube hardware in a new case and with a new controller, but it retailed at the price of a new console.

They should form a keiretsu or some such thing with Sony and just develop games for the Playstation line. Sony has the right idea when it comes to hardware, but their lineup of games is crap (IMO) so I'm kept from buying one. Having Nintendo games developed for a proper console would be amazing.

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#9 drekula2
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1. You are right. Nintendo has boxed themselves in a corner with their poor third party policies. 2. Nintendo has too much pride to ever become a third party.
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No. You're wrong and you need to understand why so you stop suggesting stupid things like this.

New Super Mario Bros U has sold over 2.15 million copies at $60. With a development budget of $10 million more than likely. That's $129 million in revenue generated, 13x the probable budget of the title.

Wii U software sales were at 13.42 million as of March 31st worldwide. The 2.6 million copies of Nintendo Land largely don't count since it was bundled, so take away Nintendo's first party 2.15 million sales of NSMBU from that 13.42 number. That's roughly 11 million games sold that aren't made by Nintendo and each nets Nintendo 30% profit. If each game is sold for at least $30 and Nintendo gets 30% of that ($9 per game) that's roughly $990 million in revenue generated. And that is with poor Wii U software sales across the board.

So you tell me, how they should walk away from more than half a billion dollars in revenue from third party software sales, not even counting all of the money they earn off first party titles?

Not even counting that Mario Kart 7 (8 million) and 3D Land (8 million) generated over $640 million in revenue?

bonesawisready5
Too bad people will ignore logic. I found myself looking up the history of console wars last night, and I realized that Sega consoles ALWAYS sold poorly. They always finished last and sales were very lackluster compared to the competition. The Dreamcast was just the straw that broke the camel's back so to speak. In contrast, Nintendo consoles, even during the N64 and Gamecube era, have always done well. Nintendo is fine, they're not going anywhere.
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#11 superbuuman
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Heh, just give them time to get themself out of this rut...even if they fail this gen (Xbox One, PS4, Wii U) which I doubt - , then there's still next gen. When they fail 2 gen straight then maybe I'll join your chorus. :P

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#12 KBFloYd
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no. 

go play forza 5 on your xbox1 and knack on your ps4 lol..

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#13 manicfoot
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M$ and Sony have had to bleed money just to get their consoles into people's homes. RROD cost M$ a billion dollars alone. Yet people think it's Nintendo that's stuggling? With the exception of Wii U, Nintendo have always made a profit on their hardware. On top of that their software sales absolutely kill their competition. Halo 4 has sold around 8 million while Mario Kart Wii has sold over 30 million. Which one do you think cost more to make?

Wii U may be struggling, but Nintendo has more than enough money in the bank to tough this out, develop some killer games and turn it around just like the 3DS.

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This shit again.
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#15 thom_maytees
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Did Sega and Atari (as good examples) made a "killing" going 3rd party? Since they did not, how can one say that Nintendo will by going 3rd party?

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DID NOT READ!

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#17 Bardock47
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1.) We just had this thread a couple days ago.

2.) Even when the N64 and Gamecube were selling at thier worst, Nintendo still turned a profit with each sale. The Wii-U is their first major home console that they're actually taking a loss with each system sold, but that doesn't mean that can't change down the line. Nintendo going third-party is never happening, or at the very least, not for a loooooong time.

1PMrFister

Also keep in mind though, the loss is regained with one game purchase. And Nintendoland doesnt last forever. Nintendo has been in the game forver, they know what up. Granted, they make mistakes, but things will be righted in the end. GC and N64 got some great games, the Wii U will too.

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No. You're wrong and you need to understand why so you stop suggesting stupid things like this.

New Super Mario Bros U has sold over 2.15 million copies at $60. With a development budget of $10 million more than likely. That's $129 million in revenue generated, 13x the probable budget of the title.

Wii U software sales were at 13.42 million as of March 31st worldwide. The 2.6 million copies of Nintendo Land largely don't count since it was bundled, so take away Nintendo's first party 2.15 million sales of NSMBU from that 13.42 number. That's roughly 11 million games sold that aren't made by Nintendo and each nets Nintendo 30% profit. If each game is sold for at least $30 and Nintendo gets 30% of that ($9 per game) that's roughly $990 million in revenue generated. And that is with poor Wii U software sales across the board.

So you tell me, how they should walk away from more than half a billion dollars in revenue from third party software sales, not even counting all of the money they earn off first party titles?

Not even counting that Mario Kart 7 (8 million) and 3D Land (8 million) generated over $640 million in revenue?

bonesawisready5

lol, damn. You know your stuff:P

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This shit again.OreoMilkshake
Every gen :D
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#20 Bubble_Man
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You meant to write "Going 3rd Party Could Kill Nintendo," right?

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#21 fluffy_kins
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I honestly wouldn't mind this. What would be so bad about a Zelda or Mario title on another console? It would still be made by Nintendo. Then I wouldn't have to buy their console for the handful of (good) exclusive games that come out for it.

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#22 Alisbet
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Perhaps Nintendo should branch into other platforms on limited basis while still selling their own hardware. That should do the trick, right?

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#23 bonesawisready5
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Perhaps Nintendo should branch into other platforms on limited basis while still selling their own hardware. That should do the trick, right?

Alisbet

That's a stupid idea and the same thing as quiting hardware which won't happen because they'd lose so much money not making hardware.

People act like they're bleeding money. I think people just don't understand or don't like that Nintendo can actually get by with 20 million unit selling consoles and be fine because they run their business well at a profit usually. 99% of other corporations would fire everyone involved if they went from 100 million units to 20 million units but with Nintendo they can survive this because they play by their own rules.

I think the fact that Nintendo can easily avoid the same issues that keep people looking over the shoulders at their own jobs is a factor into why so many people want them to go third party. People hate that they are smart enough to afford a few flops here and there.

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#24 mariokart64fan
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i cant believe people would think nintendos in trouble the 3ds alone is selling like hotcakes,  and will keep them afloat if wiiu  does not pick up which im sure wiiu will pick up enough sales to generate some profit ,  the gamecube made the same profit for nintendo that ps2 made for sony , yet only sold 25 million , 

 

the wiiu will easily pass 50 million or 70 million , 

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#25 nini200
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Why is this thread still on page 1? Let it die people.