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#1 polishkid99
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anyone get the september gameinformer? i did i read the whole "nintendo going casual" article... what do you think about it?

to me... nintendo has focused to much on casuals in the past half a year...

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#2 movin_target
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Everyone knew that since E3 07
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it's... Wii fit!
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#4 blue-fish
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Yea, this has been coming for a while... sadly. I used to respect Nintendo more then Sony or M$ but they seem to have wattered down their products so much in the last few years I've all but lost interest in them and the Wii (which I was super-excited about pre-launch.) Who knows though, maybe they will find their step again.
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#5 killerkop
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Nintendo have gotten a group of people into gaming that typically havn't gamed. Of course they are going to focus on keeping thier new fans happy, but at the same time I can see Nintendo pushing out games that Casuals can enjoy and Hardcores will as well and even bridge the gap and push casuals more towards the hardcore group.

I havn't given up on Nintendo. People complained about the Gamecube and it was my favorite system ever. I see the Wii being much much better.

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#6 FunkyGunther
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wait a second, going casual?

Nintendo brought us the Famicom (family computer), they brought us the original dancemat, they brought us Pokemon, they've been gimmick crazy since their original conception and you think they're just starting to go casual? You have a lot to learn about Nintendo it seems.

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Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, Fire Emblem, Battalion Wars 2, Strikers, Smash Bros Brawl, Zelda TP, Mario Kart Wii in the span of like, 16 months is Nintendo going casual? Sheesh.
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#8 killerkop
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I want to watch a causal play Fire Emblem. :-)

I'm just sadistic like that.

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#9 polishkid99
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its said that in the magazine the topic title "nintendo going casual" nothing else thats why i made this topic its not my opinion do you think they are... nintendo or gameinformer admited it
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#10 FunkyGunther
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nintendo or gameinformer admited itpolishkid99

i wouldn't like to bet how much the N64 and the Gamecube cost in terms of profit for the company because both were not very successful in comparison with the other consoles of the time, which is why they appear to be going more casual but in fact they're just going back to their roots

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#11 kbaily
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Nintendo gave up on the hardcore gamers because hardcore gamers gave up on them. No where is this more obvious than with the Gamecube sales figures. After seeing dismal Gamecube sales, Nintendo realized they were doomed to follow Sega's path, meaning either blow people away with a new console or give up and become a third party developer.

Nintendo said they could've gone the HD graphics, massive online network approach and it could've been a great machine but in the end, no third party would've supported it and it would've been the Dreamcast all over again meaning a great system but no one buying it.

Hardcore gamers are a small demographic obsessed with online gameplay and HD graphics and raw processing power, but that's mostly made up of males age 15-35 which the majority of Gamespot bloggers are. Am I right? (I'm a girl by the way.) Nintendo said, "screw those guys! Let's do our own thing. There's kids, grandmas and parents who are looking for fun games!" So as far as Nintendo's concerned you fan boys can enjoy your super powerful online HD boxes full of shooters, sports games and racing games. They're looking to get everyone else.

A friend of mine works at a game store and he told me the big Wii buyers he sees are people I call comeback gamers. These are folks who loved the NES or Atari. They loved fun, simple games that weren't about having 40 hours of gameplay, or interchangable weapons or free roaming environments. These are folks who like fun, simplistic games that they don't have to sink 40+ hours into. This is the crowd, the Wii is going for.

You can whine all you want about Nintendo, it hasn't slowed Wii sales. Nintendo gave up on trying to appeal to you hardcore gamers a long time ago. Get over it and go play Bioshock or something.

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Nintendo gave up on the hardcore gamers because hardcore gamers gave up on them. No where is this more obvious than with the Gamecube sales figures. After seeing dismal Gamecube sales, Nintendo realized they were doomed to follow Sega's path, meaning either blow people away with a new console or give up and become a third party developer.

Nintendo said they could've gone the HD graphics, massive online network approach and it could've been a great machine but in the end, no third party would've supported it and it would've been the Dreamcast all over again meaning a great system but no one buying it.

Hardcore gamers are a small demographic obsessed with online gameplay and HD graphics and raw processing power, but that's mostly made up of males age 15-35 which the majority of Gamespot bloggers are. Am I right? (I'm a girl by the way.) Nintendo said, "screw those guys! Let's do our own thing. There's kids, grandmas and parents who are looking for fun games!" So as far as Nintendo's concerned you fan boys can enjoy your super powerful online HD boxes full of shooters, sports games and racing games. They're looking to get everyone else.

A friend of mine works at a game store and he told me the big Wii buyers he sees are people I call comeback gamers. These are folks who loved the NES or Atari. They loved fun, simple games that weren't about having 40 hours of gameplay, or interchangable weapons or free roaming environments. These are folks who like fun, simplistic games that they don't have to sink 40+ hours into. This is the crowd, the Wii is going for.

You can whine all you want about Nintendo, it hasn't slowed Wii sales. Nintendo gave up on trying to appeal to you hardcore gamers a long time ago. Get over it and go play Bioshock or something.

kbaily

ok... i get what your saying but do you think nintendo is worse then sony and microsoft?

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what do you mean worse?
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Nintendo gave up on the hardcore gamers because hardcore gamers gave up on them. No where is this more obvious than with the Gamecube sales figures. After seeing dismal Gamecube sales, Nintendo realized they were doomed to follow Sega's path, meaning either blow people away with a new console or give up and become a third party developer.

Nintendo said they could've gone the HD graphics, massive online network approach and it could've been a great machine but in the end, no third party would've supported it and it would've been the Dreamcast all over again meaning a great system but no one buying it.

Hardcore gamers are a small demographic obsessed with online gameplay and HD graphics and raw processing power, but that's mostly made up of males age 15-35 which the majority of Gamespot bloggers are. Am I right? (I'm a girl by the way.) Nintendo said, "screw those guys! Let's do our own thing. There's kids, grandmas and parents who are looking for fun games!" So as far as Nintendo's concerned you fan boys can enjoy your super powerful online HD boxes full of shooters, sports games and racing games. They're looking to get everyone else.

A friend of mine works at a game store and he told me the big Wii buyers he sees are people I call comeback gamers. These are folks who loved the NES or Atari. They loved fun, simple games that weren't about having 40 hours of gameplay, or interchangable weapons or free roaming environments. These are folks who like fun, simplistic games that they don't have to sink 40+ hours into. This is the crowd, the Wii is going for.

You can whine all you want about Nintendo, it hasn't slowed Wii sales. Nintendo gave up on trying to appeal to you hardcore gamers a long time ago. Get over it and go play Bioshock or something.

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what do you mean worse?FunkyGunther

worse: Not achieving an adequate standard

lower in consideration, rank, or importance

i got 2 definitions what one do you like more?

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Nintendo gave up on the hardcore gamers because hardcore gamers gave up on them. No where is this more obvious than with the Gamecube sales figures. After seeing dismal Gamecube sales, Nintendo realized they were doomed to follow Sega's path, meaning either blow people away with a new console or give up and become a third party developer.

Nintendo said they could've gone the HD graphics, massive online network approach and it could've been a great machine but in the end, no third party would've supported it and it would've been the Dreamcast all over again meaning a great system but no one buying it.

Hardcore gamers are a small demographic obsessed with online gameplay and HD graphics and raw processing power, but that's mostly made up of males age 15-35 which the majority of Gamespot bloggers are. Am I right? (I'm a girl by the way.) Nintendo said, "screw those guys! Let's do our own thing. There's kids, grandmas and parents who are looking for fun games!" So as far as Nintendo's concerned you fan boys can enjoy your super powerful online HD boxes full of shooters, sports games and racing games. They're looking to get everyone else.

A friend of mine works at a game store and he told me the big Wii buyers he sees are people I call comeback gamers. These are folks who loved the NES or Atari. They loved fun, simple games that weren't about having 40 hours of gameplay, or interchangable weapons or free roaming environments. These are folks who like fun, simplistic games that they don't have to sink 40+ hours into. This is the crowd, the Wii is going for.

You can whine all you want about Nintendo, it hasn't slowed Wii sales. Nintendo gave up on trying to appeal to you hardcore gamers a long time ago. Get over it and go play Bioshock or something.

kbaily

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Nintendo gave up on the hardcore gamers because hardcore gamers gave up on them. No where is this more obvious than with the Gamecube sales figures. After seeing dismal Gamecube sales, Nintendo realized they were doomed to follow Sega's path, meaning either blow people away with a new console or give up and become a third party developer.

Nintendo said they could've gone the HD graphics, massive online network approach and it could've been a great machine but in the end, no third party would've supported it and it would've been the Dreamcast all over again meaning a great system but no one buying it.

Hardcore gamers are a small demographic obsessed with online gameplay and HD graphics and raw processing power, but that's mostly made up of males age 15-35 which the majority of Gamespot bloggers are. Am I right? (I'm a girl by the way.) Nintendo said, "screw those guys! Let's do our own thing. There's kids, grandmas and parents who are looking for fun games!" So as far as Nintendo's concerned you fan boys can enjoy your super powerful online HD boxes full of shooters, sports games and racing games. They're looking to get everyone else.

A friend of mine works at a game store and he told me the big Wii buyers he sees are people I call comeback gamers. These are folks who loved the NES or Atari. They loved fun, simple games that weren't about having 40 hours of gameplay, or interchangable weapons or free roaming environments. These are folks who like fun, simplistic games that they don't have to sink 40+ hours into. This is the crowd, the Wii is going for.

You can whine all you want about Nintendo, it hasn't slowed Wii sales. Nintendo gave up on trying to appeal to you hardcore gamers a long time ago. Get over it and go play Bioshock or something.

kbaily

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#18 Sepewrath
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Nintendo gone casual, I think Game Informer is as stupid as the people who buy into that. I think Twilight Princess, MP3, Galaxy, and Brawl all being released relatively within a year of each other says otherwise. Then Nintendo also has Disaster, and Project Hammer on the horizon as well. So they toss in something like Wii Fit, and keep it going with sucessful franchises like Brain Age, that means that they are totally devoted to casuals. Ok well Sony had that work out game on the PS2 using eyetoy, so I guess that they are casual as well. Also the hardcore game media, including game informer who have taken time to cover games like Wii Fit and such must also be casual. Using that type of flawed logic makes the gaming world seem like it has gone causal. Nintendo is doing the same old thing, they have just added more to thier plate. The day Nintendo says "No more Zelda, Metroid, Mario, or Smash Brothers, or new IPS" that is the day that I say Nintendo has gone causal.

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[QUOTE="FunkyGunther"]what do you mean worse?polishkid99

worse: Not achieving an adequate standard

lower in consideration, rank, or importance

i got 2 definitions what one do you like more?

Nintendo have the highest quality control i've seen in any gaming manufacturer, they never release a duff first or second party title, their products rarely breakdown and have to be recalled, their standards are high in comparison with competitors MS and Sony so much that game producers would not be allowed to create games for Nintendo without it being awarded a seal of approval, even 3rd party titles need to go through this although the credentials for them are not quite so strict (quite how Red Steel and CoD slipped under the radar i don't know but i'm sure it has a lot to do with the rush of the Wii launch and Ninty were just making up the numbers). So their standards cannot be questioned.

Also, Nintendo have innovated and progressed this industry more than any other company so i'd say they were/are very important to video games. That is their greatest victory, it is however their achilles heel because the world moved on and they got left behind. With the Wii and the DS they started clawing back at their lost profits and in terms of sale figures at the moment it ranks up there with the 360. Consideration can be taken in 2 ways, either in terms of money made or in terms of people (fans and gamers) satisfied, at the end of the day it is the consumer who makes the choice and the more money Nintendo make the more games they will produce.

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#20 FunkyGunther
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i did write a blog article about Nintendo and the casual gamer but i'm afraid to post it in case it is seen as advertising
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#21 nintendofreak_2
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One game is not focusing on casuals. Anybody who says Nintendo is going casual needs to actually look at the games they are making.
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#22 metro2692
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[QUOTE="FunkyGunther"]what do you mean worse?polishkid99

worse: Not achieving an adequate standard

lower in consideration, rank, or importance

i got 2 definitions what one do you like more?

he's asking for u 2 give more of an opinion and factual reason why nintendo is worse

p.s. its not, the Wii may have boring games, but its great in its own right nd when games are good on it, there GRRRRREAT! lol

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#23 Sepewrath
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kbaily that was a well worded post, but I must say I completely disagree with you.