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#1 deactivated-5a385958ec9cd
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Nintendo is losing their kiddy image.

Nintendo has recently announced that The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess will be rated T for Teen on the official US Wii website for animated blood and fantasy violence. Its the first T rated Zelda game, and the first to have blood in it (not counting Ganondorf's blood at the end of OOT). The Metroid series seems to be targeted toward older gamers.

Red Steel is exclusive to Wii and looks like one really awesome game. And its for older gamers. Resident Evil 4 and many new resident evil games that came out are (or at least were) exclusive to the DS or Gamecube.

And now, even an AO rated game, Exciting Witch Trials, is coming out for DS and Wii in Japan.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl includes Snake from the M-rated Metal Gear games, from which rating Nintendo did not really want to include characters from. It also includes details that Nintendo didn't wish to release beforehand *coughzerosuitsamuscough*

And on top of that, here's a list of more maturer games coming out on nintendo systems:

Call of Duty 3, Metal Slug Anthology, Twilight Princess, Witch Trials, Metroid Prime 3, Godfather,  Killing Day,

Madden NFL, Need For Speed, Smash Bros., the new Resident Evil games, Prince of Persia Wii, Prince of Persia: Rival Swords, Fire Emblem games, Sadness, Medal of Honor: Airborne, Time Crisis, Battallion Wars, Disaster: Day of Crisis, No More Heroes,  many more...

Most "kiddy'' games like Happy Feet and Billy & Mandy are not even made by Nintendo or are on different consoles too.

UPDATE: Rockstar today has confirmed MANHUNT II for the Wii. Wow.

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#2 kort-nilsen
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I think you are right.

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#3 shockwave04
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Yeah I guess they're.
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NintendoFTW!
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#5 tryagainlater
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There is more higher aged games coming out but I don't think they will ever lose their kiddy image unless they made every single popular game become violent like Mario.
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#6 Regginator14520
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Nintendo was typically stereo typed by sony fans... as the "kiddy" gaming console, but the fact still remains that PS2 has way more kiddy games then Gamecube.
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#7 M_Scar
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Yeah,i've noticed that.
Nintendo intenttionaly did that to get a larger market.People complained about that in GC now they changed that,good to know...:wink:
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I really don't think it's the Sony Fanboys who think Nintendo is for kids, let's not be fanboys ourselves now.  If you paid attention the last 10 years the kid friendly image of Nintendo was brought on by themselves.  I feel the biggest step Nintendo can take to get rid of this kiddy image is to have a lot of online games, and complex storylines in their games, in other words have some more AAA titles not based on Mario/Zelda/Donkey Kong/Metroid.   Just one man's opinion.

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Nintendo was typically stereo typed by sony fans... as the "kiddy" gaming console, but the fact still remains that PS2 has way more kiddy games then Gamecube.Regginator14520

Besides, Nintendo fans are tipically older than Sony fans, it's mostly insecure 12-15 year olds that call Nintendo kiddy...

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I really don't think it's the Sony Fanboys who think Nintendo is for kids, let's not be fanboys ourselves now. If you paid attention the last 10 years the kid friendly image of Nintendo was brought on by themselves. I feel the biggest step Nintendo can take to get rid of this kiddy image is to have a lot of online games, and complex storylines in their games. Just one man's opinion.

Adultgmr77


woh now... lets back up a few years... if i ever mentioned Nintendo to a Sony fan... they automatically metion "kiddy games". That is the truth. There is more less kiddy games on cube then PS2...   there is no kiddy image about Nintendo... i mean come on.. if u have a problem with mario... metriod... pokemon.... ect... and you are accusing that of beeing kiddy... then you have problems
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Mario is violent....... an illegal migrant plumber starts jumping on turtles so he can steal coins.
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[QUOTE="Regginator14520"]Nintendo was typically stereo typed by sony fans... as the "kiddy" gaming console, but the fact still remains that PS2 has way more kiddy games then Gamecube.black_cat19

Besides, Nintendo fans are tipically older than Sony fans, it's mostly insecure 12-15 year olds that call Nintendo kiddy...



exactly...   Nintendo fans date back to the retro era... there is nothing kiddy about us... 
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Meh, I don't care if things like blood is included in Zelda either way, as long as it doesn't become like Mortal Combat to the point where blood and gore is a selling point, because that's when series die IMO.
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#14 Regginator14520
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anyone who calls Nintendo "kiddy" is ingorant to the bliss.
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...They released a bunch of M games for the Gamecube, and games like Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid were reeased on the console, but that didn't help their kiddy image.. If anything is shedding the kiddy image a bit, it's probably the design of the console as it doesn't look like a toy anymore, but they still have that kiddy image, although its slowly turning into a more family-friendly image
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#17 just_the_usual
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You know the SNES had several Adult games, Yet that wasn't an adult system...

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[QUOTE="Regginator14520"][QUOTE="Adultgmr77"]

I really don't think it's the Sony Fanboys who think Nintendo is for kids, let's not be fanboys ourselves now. If you paid attention the last 10 years the kid friendly image of Nintendo was brought on by themselves. I feel the biggest step Nintendo can take to get rid of this kiddy image is to have a lot of online games, and complex storylines in their games. Just one man's opinion.

Adultgmr77



woh now... lets back up a few years... if i ever mentioned Nintendo to a Sony fan... they automatically metion "kiddy games". That is the truth. There is more less kiddy games on cube then PS2... there is no kiddy image about Nintendo... i mean come on.. if u have a problem with mario... metriod... pokemon.... ect... and you are accusing that of beeing kiddy... then you have problems

And if you mentioned Nintendo to ANYBODY, people thought of "kiddy games." And remember there are more kiddy games on the PS2 because their library is huge compared to the Gamecube. Seriously I am not attacking Nintendo, just keep everybody on an even kiel, and stop screaming fanboy this and fanboy that, when we're doing the same damn thing. Oh I don't have a PROBLEM, per say, w/ Mario and company, but I've been playing games since 1982 and Mario has been around since like 1987. Just maybe, you think Morimoto would have gotten some new Fanchises. I'm just expecting a whole lot more from a company w/20 plus years expierance. When I was growing up Mario was kiddie way before Sony was making games. And why did you mention Pokemon, nobody over the age of 14 plays w/ Pokemon....:lol:



define "anybody"...   i find that kinda harsh considering i know many people that did not consider Nintendo "Kiddy"...maybe u know a lot of ignorant people.. but i sure don't. Ya the PS2 did have more titles, a lot more kiddy tittles...   even worst... 40% ratio of PS2 games are failures, but still sold at full price, targeting younger children or the general gamer. Gamecube did not have that issue, nor did XBox, or Dreamcast...  your just biased, especially with your pokemon comment. Click on "DS" and tell me how many Pokemon games are listed on the top 10 list. Idiot.
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And why did you mention Pokemon, nobody over the age of 14 plays w/ Pokemon....:lol:Adultgmr77

I'm 21 and I play them, and I've played with many older than me. It's a divide, there are only a few between 14-18 (peer insecurity, I figure) that play.

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#20 Sinheart
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also, reggie spent some time over at take-two to discuss wii possibilities, probably to get the GTA series on the wii, one of the most mature gaming series ever.
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#21 FE411
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Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn

TLOZ: Twilight Princess

Smash Bros. Brawl

Battalion Wars II

and...

Super Mario Galaxy

Super Paper Mario

Sonic and the Secret Rings

...that isn't kiddy right? Right!???

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#22 gvntofly1021
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idiot fanboys think kid-friendly= teh kidday!1!1one

the little purple cube aka "fisher price my first video game console" did nothing to help that either...
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also, reggie spent some time over at take-two to discuss wii possibilities, probably to get the GTA series on the wii, one of the most mature gaming series ever.Sinheart

The most mature gaming series ever? because it is stupidly violent and  you can engage in criminal activity.  That isn't my definition of mature, a mature game would not need to resort to cheap shock tactics to sell it.

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#24 MarkVega
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Nintendo was always plagued with this image. It's simply a method for Nintendo to gain more customers. Some of us WERE kids back then, remember? It's not an argument of having-kiddy only games on a Nintendo games console, it's about wanting the games that doesn't seem 'mature' according to the so called standard set by Sega and now Sony away from the software line up so our Nintendo system looks cool. Nintendo just never fell for that crap and kept doing their thing, much to the dismay of Nin-gamers REALLY wanting them to copy Sony's style of so called maturity.

It's that Nintendo makes games themselves that it's noticable they make fun games for everyone, so they get targeted as being 'kiddy'.

Sure, it had an Kiddy image, but that's because what the competition gave it. ...hey, think about it. What do you think gamers in Japan think about this issue? Do you even think it's even an issue there? :D It's really seemingly a western-type problem.
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also, reggie spent some time over at take-two to discuss wii possibilities, probably to get the GTA series on the wii, one of the most mature gaming series ever.Sinheart

You mean one of the most IMMATURE gaming series ever...

Seriously, let's go and kill innocent pedestrians, steal their stuff, "play" with hoes, shoot at policemen and pretty much cause mayhem to show how very "mature" we are. It may be fun, but it's far from mature...

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#26 FE411
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Fly, its called a Gamecube, something most people, fanboys or not, play with still.
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ye i agree and im glad that nintnedo are doing that coz as i get older im gonna start to go off the babyish games like animal crossing, however good they are.
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#28 gvntofly1021
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Fly, its called a Gamecube, something most people, fanboys or not, play with still.FE411
as do i. lol but it doesn't change how the damn thing looks/looked in purple...
and i was more or less just stating common opinion outside of nintendo fans.
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ye i agree and im glad that nintnedo are doing that coz as i get older im gonna start to go off the babyish games like animal crossing, however good they are.andrewkozis

How old are you? I feel sorry for anyone that can make that statement...

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#30 black_cat19
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[QUOTE="FE411"]Fly, its called a Gamecube, something most people, fanboys or not, play with still.gvntofly1021
as do i. lol but it doesn't change how the damn thing looks/looked in purple...
and i was more or less just stating common opinion outside of nintendo fans.

Well, I'm also a Nintendo fan, and the thing still looks like a toy, never bothered me though...

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In most teenagers eyes i imagine these games appear as kiddy, because they dont offer shocks. Mario isn't pushing the limits of what is allowed in society. I doubt that as long as Nintendo tries to create (and i think it's a great idea) a console for all, these people will see Nintendo as kiddy. I don't really have a problem with that
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hopefully it means PvP instead of HvH (hormones) when going online.
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to say nintendo havent made any new franchises is  stupid wot about pikmin, thats an exellent game. and batillion wars, e.g advance wars. wot a game that is. wot about under the knife for the ds which  will be on the wii too, and pheonix wright on the ds and animal crossing, if u ask me nintendo make alot of new francises, which are exclusive only to them. tell me how many exclusives ps3 will have, not even metal gear solid will be as snake is in smash brother so there will be a metal gear solid game coming to wii in the end.

Even games that come out for the ps3 and not the wii will come out on xbox360 anyway.

I agree with everyone that nintendo does have a kids appeal but they allso have a massive adult following, ive been a ninty fan since they frsts arrived in the console market with the nes.

They are losing there kiddy image now with the arrival of more mauture game but i dont want nintendo to just make those types of games, i want mario, metroid, zelda, pokemon which i have played and im 28 woohoo. these games make nintendo wot they are.

A great company that makes games for all not just the mature.

GOOD GOING NINTENDO.

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#33 noonlight
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There is more higher aged games coming out but I don't think they will ever lose their kiddy image unless they made every single popular game become violent like Mario.tryagainlater
I agree, mario's really violent
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#34 Berem
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There is more higher aged games coming out but I don't think they will ever lose their kiddy image unless they made every single popular game become violent like Mario.tryagainlater
Is that really necessary... no. Mario will never be violent, duh. Nintendo is just letting more mature things into their games, but adding that to a game like Mario would completely change the whole series.. thats just wrong.
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#35 Berem
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ye i agree and im glad that nintnedo are doing that coz as i get older im gonna start to go off the babyish games like animal crossing, however good they are.andrewkozis
Your loss, Im 20 and Animal Crossing is one of the funnest games ever. Just because its unrealistic in a lot of ways doesn't mean you can't have a ton of fun putting 4 guys in a Apartment with AC in the cube.
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also, reggie spent some time over at take-two to discuss wii possibilities, probably to get the GTA series on the wii, one of the most mature gaming series ever.Sinheart


Oh god, that gives me a laugh. If anything GTA is the most immature gaming series ever.

If Nintendo is losing their kiddy image it is for these reasons.
  1. Their console doesn't look like a toy with a rediculous handle
  2. They got more 3rd party which means *gasp* more variety in games
  3. The demographic of kids don't buy Nintendo consoles because it is "kiddy" and therefore want the "cool" consoles that have extreme violence.


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Mario is violent....... an illegal migrant plumber starts jumping on turtles so he can steal coins. senorjoeyo

Yeah... mario endorses turtle extintion!!!
BAN MARIO!!! BAN MARIO!!! LONG LIVE GREENPEACE!!!

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Its interesting that many times when Nintendo gets a chance to show a 'mature' game they show it pretty hard. Which seems to give out to me the message that they really are kiddy. Nintendos best bet is to just do what they are doing with the DS and carve out a neutral image rather than trying to vehemently oppose the image they already have
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Kiddy Image huh, U so called "Mature" gamers which mature person plays with a video game? In general if u mention that u play video game to anyone and i mean anyone. What do u do u think that person will think of u? U guessed right ur a kids and nerds (the grown version of urself). Society looks at people who plays video games are just immature period. The game could be E-AO its still a video game. Am I right or wrong? Don't get me I do play video game but not as much. So U think playing  M games makes u mature? I know 15 year olds that play those M game lol.
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#40 Asura2
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I didn't really think they were "kiddy" to begin with.8)

Okay, maybe a little.

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Why does it matter about what rating the game gets. That's like saying a sucky R rated movie like Snakes on a Plane is better than a PG rated movie like Toy Story just on ratings. I have played tons of crappy M rated games. You cannot judge a game by it's rating.
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Kiddy Image huh, U so called "Mature" gamers which mature person plays with a video game? In general if u mention that u play video game to anyone and i mean anyone. What do u do u think that person will think of u? U guessed right ur a kids and nerds (the grown version of urself). Society looks at people who plays video games are just immature period. The game could be E-AO its still a video game. Am I right or wrong? Don't get me I do play video game but not as much. So U think playing  M games makes u mature? I know 15 year olds that play those M game lol. IceRider_3000

You are right, i play on my xbox360 alot playing farcry online and there are alot of 12 year olds playing it, they are the ones mainly calling nintendo kiddy cos they think they are cool playing a M game. i aslo get people saying to me that playing games is for kids but do i care NO, there is alot more to gaming than just blood and guts.

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It is still consider kiddy......................
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[QUOTE="Articuno76"]Its interesting that many times when Nintendo gets a chance to show a 'mature' game they show it pretty hard. Which seems to give out to me the message that they really are kiddy. Nintendos best bet is to just do what they are doing with the DS and carve out a neutral image rather than trying to vehemently oppose the image they already have



Yeah, they constant whoring of Red Steel makes them look quite forced.

It is like they are saying, "look at me, I got a violent game!!1111"
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Fly, its called a Gamecube, something most people, fanboys or not, play with still.FE411
funny u said that cuz i just finished playing ssbm lol
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#46 IceRider_3000
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Why does it matter about what rating the game gets. That's like saying a sucky R rated movie like Snakes on a Plane is better than a PG rated movie like Toy Story just on ratings. I have played tons of crappy M rated games. You cannot judge a game by it's rating.Boba_Fett_3710

LOL I'm not here to argue with anyone. I'm just stating the a fact. A game can be M but that don't mean a Mature person plays it. So don't matter how much M game come from Sony it does not matter. The average kid will tell you that GTA is the best gangster **** ass game. U ask the average mature person they'll proly say something like "WTF is GTA"?

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#47 Lothenon
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Above, someone said that Nintendo was "plagued" by its kiddy-image. That is simply not true. Up to the Wii, the first step Nintendo EVER made to steer against their dominant kiddy-image is Resident Evil. And that is simply because the Cube didn't sell well. And that, without a question, is the reason Nintendo is aming at a wider audience with the Wii (Heavy Advertisment of Red Steel, mature launch titles (and no mario), T-rated Zelda, etc.) - simply because they could not attract the teenage audience anymore. Simply because they want to make more money. And not because they were unsatisfied with their "image" or with the kiddyness of their games. I always thought it very brave of Nintendo to NOT go the Sony-way and keep this.. dont know how to call it.. their priorities. But I'm not complining. It's just a natural step forward, and they need these games to sell the Wii.

But, despite all the efford, Nintendo will never, EVER, loose their kiddie-image. No f-ing way. The "image" is made and spread by the masses, and the masses of graphic-whore-teenage-mutant-hardware-gamers will never take Nintendo seriously (wtf. Pokemon is for kiddies theres no waaay I could've fun playing that!!111 And it has bad graphx!!). Even more so considering Nintendo gave up on the Kids and aims at the Non-Gamers nowadays.
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#48 Sepewrath
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you people try to hard to counter what sony fanboys say, who cares if they say its kiddy. I will have more fun with my new kiddy console than they will with thier big adult $600 ps2.plain and simple.
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nintendo to me was never really kiddy. its up to people and what they think but dont call it kiddy when its ur opinion. i just let people think what they want. nintendo has bigger balls than any other company

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street fighter -name says it all just straight beating up ur little brother until ur mom turns it off cuz he was crying ...*sigh* memories *cries*

mortal kombat -blood and gore

conkers bad fur day  -some rated M and at some points almost AO (anyone remember the sunflower:wink:)

plus others i cant remember