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#1 DriftRS
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In my opinion, and I think it's fairly valid, the Wii can not be a success if Nintendo does not start producing more GC controllers. Sure nothing is going to stop it being profitable, but for hardcore gamers, and gamers who never had a gamecube, the continued production of Gamecube controllers is vital for enjoyment of the Wii.

Think about it, so far 3 high class games all practically require the use of gamecube controllers, Smash Bros Brawl, Mario Kart Wii (confirmed to use GC pads today), and Metal Slug Anthology all require gamecube pads, these games simply won't be as fun or accesible without them by a long margin. Any competetive smash bros play will have to use GC pads, Mario Kart probably won't work well at all with motion controled steering (not accurate enough), and metal slug can't be played with a suitable control scheme without Gamecube controllers.

Ontop of this, backwards compatibility with the gamecube is all but pointless for anyone who didn't own a gamecube as they can't buy controllers any more, and even those who did have a GC, the controllers are starting to wear out after so many years. Ontop of that a number of Virtual Console games play far better with a GC pad, including nearly every N64 game. We add the later WiiWare games, which can also support GC controllers, and the problem gets even worse.

All up, the Gamecube controller is one of the most important peripherals for the Wii, in some regards it could be argued as more important then the Wiimote itself as it is required for some of the greatest Wii games, and for proper Virtual Console play and backward compatibility. If Nintendo can't handle the production of three controllers, why did they even bother with the Classic Controller? I use the GC controller far more then it, and with the ability to reconfigure the GC button config in classic games, the Classic Controller would be nearly unnecessary.

I know this was a long rant, but I honestly believe Nintendo has to start producing these controllers again, they're now impossible to find in Australia, and new ones are becoming increasingly rare on Ebay. It'd be great if we could get a company such as IGN in contact with Nintendo and yell at them a bit to make them see reason, but I dunno how we'd even go about that : /

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#2 ZumaJones07
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I agree with you completely... I've also come to think that the GC controllers will be around for a REAL long time. Nintendo can't go back to standard controls after the Wii and the GC was the last console made with that control. So unless Nintendo decides to make another standard controller - one that can stand alone unlike the Classic Controller - the GC controllers will probably be around a while. ...at least that's how I feel... Luckily I have SEVEN GC controllers... two of which are funky but functional :P I bought four on my own, received two from two friends who didn't want their Cubes, and I bought a Wavebird after the first six :D
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#3 pikma
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actually, i agree with you
im having some problems about this right now
i have like 5 gamecube games waiting for me to get a GC controller that actually works
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I think they should release a new controller that works for both VC, GC and Wii games. Some Wii games have been ones that really don't work well with the Wii controls and motion sensing, like Paper Mario. In future, it would mean devs have more options rather than forcing the Wii remote on you. It'd also give more options for the gamers, having multiple choices for what controller to use in alot of games would be nice.

Producing more GC controllers would work, but without the "Wii" name casuals won't any idea what they're looking at. I personally love the GC controller, but knowing Nintendo they'll come out with a new one for the money, just like the Classic Controller.

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#7 Broc_Samson
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I was lucky enough the my local Gamestop had two perfect condition used controllers but I completely agree with you too... even though I hate them so much. This actually reminds me that I feel like a jerk when people say they can't find a Wii because the day I decided to get a Wii I got the last one at my local Walmart... third place I looked :P
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I think they should release a new controller that works for both VC, GC and Wii games. Some Wii games have been ones that really don't work well with the Wii controls and motion sensing, like Paper Mario. In future, it would mean devs have more options rather than forcing the Wii remote on you. It'd also give more options for the gamers, having multiple choices for what controller to use in alot of games would be nice.

Producing more GC controllers would work, but without the "Wii" name casuals won't any idea what they're looking at. I personally love the GC controller, but knowing Nintendo they'll come out with a new one for the money, just like the Classic Controller.

Erebyssial

SNES style... kind of like the Classic but bigger and thinner would be a nice fit. Or you could just go for comfort and do a 360 style controller.

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#9 pikma
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1349 = the sh** and game cube controllers are only in the @ss Catz form. atleast Super smash will be playable with 1 gamecube controller. kick your friend in the stomache and leave with his gc controllerArodjuggernaut


what did you say?
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Trouble is I'm not sure Nintendo will produce any more, at the moment Ninty is no doubt very content with how things are going.

Developers are obviously still designing games around the GC controller, two of Nintendo's biggest multipler games (smash bros and mario kart) will practically need 4 of them for party play, yet Nintendo seems content with the current situation...

I wish there was a way we could get in contact with IGN, gamespot, gamespy or someone who can reach nintendo and give em a kick in the pants to get this sorted.

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#11 pikma
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Trouble is I'm not sure Nintendo will produce any more, at the moment Ninty is no doubt very content with how things are going DriftRS



they are not going to start producing GC controllers again obviously
but they could release a new (decent) controller

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#13 pikma
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Trouble is I'm not sure Nintendo will produce any more, at the moment Ninty is no doubt very content with how things are going.

Developers are obviously still designing games around the GC controller, two of Nintendo's biggest multipler games (smash bros and mario kart) will practically need 4 of them for party play, yet Nintendo seems content with the current situation...

I wish there was a way we could get in contact with IGN, gamespot, gamespy or someone who can reach nintendo and give em a kick in the pants to get this sorted.

DriftRS


well...
i know where Reggie lives ;)
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#14 pikma
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your mom wants to borrow my gamecube controller and that the sheisty mad catz controllers are the only new GC controllers aroundArodjuggernaut


no, i mean, what about 1349?
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#15 lonewolf604
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they would rename the wavebird the wii bird
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#16 Fredrick2003x
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You can still buy Gamecube controllers at reasonable prices online everywhere, and nearly every store I walk into around my area has tons of Gamecube controllers.

I don't see any reason to panic just yet...

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#17 EmilioDigsIt
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I'm using a friend's controller but I'm planning on getting a new one soon.

Like some one said, a smart idea would be to make a cube controller that goes into the Wiimote socket. I think I remember Hori making a SNES controller for the Cube... they should make a GC controller for Wii.
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#18 DriftRS
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You can still buy Gamecube controllers at reasonable prices online everywhere, and nearly every store I walk into around my area has tons of Gamecube controllers.

I don't see any reason to panic just yet...

Fredrick2003x

Not everyone lives in America (least I assume u do, most people here do...) In Australia at least it's become very hard to find them, I can't find any in the usual retailers in Perth, and as Nintendo has stopped production, you'll be having the same problem in the US shortly.

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#19 Mike1978Smith
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I don't know if it's possible, but I personally think they should give a firmware patch that lets the classic controller work for GC game. The same patch should allow GC games to be saved to the Wii memory instead of needing a GC memory card.

I don't know if it's possible or not, but if it is, it would be a good move, imo. The only reason I haven't bought any GC games (I never had a GC) is because I never really feel like shelling out the cash for a memory card and controller along with the game. And the way it looks, by the time I finally do give in and go out to get a controller or two and a memory card, I won't be able to find any.

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#20 starmetroid
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yes! I had to get a wavebird on Ebay cause there were none left for $70!
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I agree. The only place I can really find them is online, and I need to get some for Brawl. >_>
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In my opinion, and I think it's fairly valid, the Wii can not be a success if Nintendo does not start producing more GC controllers. Sure nothing is going to stop it being profitable, but for hardcore gamers, and gamers who never had a gamecube, the continued production of Gamecube controllers is vital for enjoyment of the Wii.

Think about it, so far 3 high class games all practically require the use of gamecube controllers, Smash Bros Brawl, Mario Kart Wii (confirmed to use GC pads today), and Metal Slug Anthology all require gamecube pads, these games simply won't be as fun or accesible without them by a long margin. Any competetive smash bros play will have to use GC pads, Mario Kart probably won't work well at all with motion controled steering (not accurate enough), and metal slug can't be played with a suitable control scheme without Gamecube controllers.

Ontop of this, backwards compatibility with the gamecube is all but pointless for anyone who didn't own a gamecube as they can't buy controllers any more, and even those who did have a GC, the controllers are starting to wear out after so many years. Ontop of that a number of Virtual Console games play far better with a GC pad, including nearly every N64 game. We add the later WiiWare games, which can also support GC controllers, and the problem gets even worse.

All up, the Gamecube controller is one of the most important peripherals for the Wii, in some regards it could be argued as more important then the Wiimote itself as it is required for some of the greatest Wii games, and for proper Virtual Console play and backward compatibility. If Nintendo can't handle the production of three controllers, why did they even bother with the Classic Controller? I use the GC controller far more then it, and with the ability to reconfigure the GC button config in classic games, the Classic Controller would be nearly unnecessary.

I know this was a long rant, but I honestly believe Nintendo has to start producing these controllers again, they're now impossible to find in Australia, and new ones are becoming increasingly rare on Ebay. It'd be great if we could get a company such as IGN in contact with Nintendo and yell at them a bit to make them see reason, but I dunno how we'd even go about that : /

DriftRS

brah, the classic controller. thats what the gc controller got changed to. i don't think i wanted to change, but now lookin at it i think it might be good......i mean, having a controller with buttons that are all actually shaped well so you can reach em without futzin around.

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#23 Yo-gan
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I agree, my Gamecube contollers have been worn away to the max from constant playing of meele and Mariokart for years. It woul e sweet if they released white Gamecube contolers to match the wii :)
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#24 Yo-gan
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[QUOTE="Fredrick2003x"]

You can still buy Gamecube controllers at reasonable prices online everywhere, and nearly every store I walk into around my area has tons of Gamecube controllers.

I don't see any reason to panic just yet...

DriftRS

Not everyone lives in America (least I assume u do, most people here do...) In Australia at least it's become very hard to find them, I can't find any in the usual retailers in Perth, and as Nintendo has stopped production, you'll be having the same problem in the US shortly.

Tell me about it man, i live in Ireland and they havnt sold anything Gamecube related here in well over 2 years in this joke of a country!
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You said they all require gamecube pads. They dont require them, there an option -- Most games will give you 3 options: Wiimote/Wiimote+Nunchuck, Gamecube, C lassic controller.
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No, No, NO! The GC and all GC peripherals must be discontinued completely. Everything which requires a normal conntroller should be switched out to the CC. I should be able to play GC games with a CC and to save my game on the internal memory. It makes no sense to keep the peripherals of the old generation.

I am hoping Brawl and Kart offer a CC control scheme otherwise it makes no sense what so ever...

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No, No, NO! The GC and all GC peripherals must be discontinued completely. Everything which requires a normal conntroller should be switched out to the CC. I should be able to play GC games with a CC and to save my game on the internal memory. It makes no sense to keep the peripherals of the old generation.

I am hoping Brawl and Kart offer a CC control scheme otherwise it makes no sense what so ever...

Jazunn

I couldnt agree more. Although its a brilliant marketing plan by Nintendo it makes no sense whatsoever on an actual practical front...requiring people to buy 7 year old controllers to play the biggest game for the system is not exactly the spitting image of "cutting edge" that, after I read the Brawl preview, is what I expect the game to be!

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We do need GC controllers, as we do Wavebirds.
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#29 Litchie
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There's a GC controller shortage? Then, I agree.
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No, No, NO! The GC and all GC peripherals must be discontinued completely. Everything which requires a normal conntroller should be switched out to the CC. I should be able to play GC games with a CC and to save my game on the internal memory. It makes no sense to keep the peripherals of the old generation.

I am hoping Brawl and Kart offer a CC control scheme otherwise it makes no sense what so ever...

Jazunn

Why not make more GC controllers AND make the cc available for more games?

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#31 Jazunn
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[QUOTE="Jazunn"]

No, No, NO! The GC and all GC peripherals must be discontinued completely. Everything which requires a normal conntroller should be switched out to the CC. I should be able to play GC games with a CC and to save my game on the internal memory. It makes no sense to keep the peripherals of the old generation.

I am hoping Brawl and Kart offer a CC control scheme otherwise it makes no sense what so ever...

Litchie

Why not make more GC controllers AND make the cc available for more games?

Why not let me plug in my NES controller in that case?

To offer backwards compatibility is great and fun on the game side but to ask new games to use the old controller which is not packed in is ridiculous add on to the fact that GC support has been terminated. They should have either made the CC look like a GC pad that plugs in the Wiimote or completely discontinue the GC pad and only use the CC.

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#32 InfinityMugen
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GC controllers are critical to virtual console gaming. Rather than make more GC controllers, it would be even better if they made an entirely new controller that you can actually see and use the D-Pad.:|
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#33 Jazunn
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GC controllers are critical to virtual console gaming.InfinityMugen

Critical? Critical only if you owned a GC and are too cheap to buy a CC. SNES games played on a copy of the SNES pad? What a crazy idea!

They did make a new controller, it is called the classic controller.

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#34 Arnalion
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One of the reasons I bought 4 GC controllers for my cube was because I knew I would need it for SSBB.
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#35 Tuvac
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The CC is a better all around pad than the GC pad, they should really just do an update to allow more broad CC use.
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if they do decide to sell gamecube controllers they should only be wavebirds, having all those wires get very annoying. but i doubt they would be selling the contollers as the name "gamecube" controllers, but as a new name for the wii. also people who know barely anything about the wii might not know it can be used for it, but that its only used for the gamecube.
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#37 mdisen
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They just need to make a Wii-cube controller, similar to the classic.
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#38 deactivated-62cbf5c22ef38
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yea.. :cry: I had 2 GC controllers, one now is not working properly, but I can not find a new one, just used or third parties :(

I would have to go online :(

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Oh great ,the gamecube lovers are back
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#40 dmil1991
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I just checked, and amazon.com has new platinum GC controllers for sale. Personally though, I'd buy them in Gamestop. A good used controller can be a lot cheaper and still be as good.
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#41 deactivated-62cbf5c22ef38
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I just checked, and amazon.com has new platinum GC controllers for sale. Personally though, I'd buy them in Gamestop. A good used controller can be a lot cheaper and still be as good.dmil1991

yea.. I saw those but they are so pricy... have you buy used one?? my GS only have used one... Do they work OK?? do they feel like something is going to fall apart at any moment??

Thx :D

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#42 Itsthetruth
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Start a petition, get signatures and mail it to Nintendo of America.

There's market for both the standard controller and for wave bird, i don't even have one of those wii classic controllers, all i use is the GC, if it was good back then it's sure good now even if it doesn't look white shiny cool like the new classic stuff.

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#43 Ospov
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I remember seeing a (fake...i think) photo of a wavebird that allowed the wiimote to be put in the middle (where the cord came from) and it just plugged into the buttom of the wiimote. I'm pretty sure it was fake, which is a little disappointing, but I hope Nintendo does release something like that. I'll try to find a picture on Google real quick...

There it is!

It came from IGN (apparently) and it was just a suggestion for a new ****c controller, so I don't think it exists... :(

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#44 sumarr
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Meh! I kept my one corded and 2 wavebird controllers when I got the Wii. I knew it played GameCube games so why get rid of them. ON the other hand for all the people that bought a Wii but didn't have a GC, hindsight is 20/20. Think of all the GC games you missed out on that you could of got WITH a controller a year ago.
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#45 dr3b
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They will have to come out with something eventually. A wireless Gamecube controller designed for the Wii would be awesome. Black grips and Wii white for the body would be a great combination.
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[QUOTE="dmil1991"]I just checked, and amazon.com has new platinum GC controllers for sale. Personally though, I'd buy them in Gamestop. A good used controller can be a lot cheaper and still be as good.chang_1910

yea.. I saw those but they are so pricy... have you buy used one?? my GS only have used one... Do they work OK?? do they feel like something is going to fall apart at any moment??

Thx :D

My used controllers are as good as the one I bought new (I have three total). All of my controllers are black, which were only started late in the GC's lifespan. The platinum were also started late in its career too. The indigo and spice controllers were made early on, so watch out for those. The sticks on those tend to be loose. Just before you by them, check the controller through the bag that they are in, and don't by them off the web, cause you don't know what you're getting. I bought my controllers used for $15 each at Gamestop, vs $25 at amazon, and they are all corded. No Wavebirds for me (too many batts).

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#47 DriftRS
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[QUOTE="Jazunn"]

No, No, NO! The GC and all GC peripherals must be discontinued completely. Everything which requires a normal conntroller should be switched out to the CC. I should be able to play GC games with a CC and to save my game on the internal memory. It makes no sense to keep the peripherals of the old generation.

I am hoping Brawl and Kart offer a CC control scheme otherwise it makes no sense what so ever...

GoldenSilence87

I couldnt agree more. Although its a brilliant marketing plan by Nintendo it makes no sense whatsoever on an actual practical front...requiring people to buy 7 year old controllers to play the biggest game for the system is not exactly the spitting image of "cutting edge" that, after I read the Brawl preview, is what I expect the game to be!

It's not that we're being forced to use GC controllers, all thes games support the Wiimote, and most have support for classic as well. It's just that we choose to use the GC controllers. The Classic Controller is a remake of a 3 generation old design, it's very useful for the classic games and some new games, but mostly the GC controller works much better for modern games IMO, and I'm guessing alot of people here agree.

So I definetly don't blame Nintendo for giving us the option to use the GC controller, I blame them for not giving us the controllers : /

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#48 icarus212001
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In my opinion, and I think it's fairly valid, the Wii can not be a success if Nintendo does not start producing more GC controllers. Sure nothing is going to stop it being profitable, but for hardcore gamers, and gamers who never had a gamecube, the continued production of Gamecube controllers is vital for enjoyment of the Wii.

Think about it, so far 3 high class games all practically require the use of gamecube controllers, Smash Bros Brawl, Mario Kart Wii (confirmed to use GC pads today), and Metal Slug Anthology all require gamecube pads, these games simply won't be as fun or accesible without them by a long margin. Any competetive smash bros play will have to use GC pads, Mario Kart probably won't work well at all with motion controled steering (not accurate enough), and metal slug can't be played with a suitable control scheme without Gamecube controllers.

Ontop of this, backwards compatibility with the gamecube is all but pointless for anyone who didn't own a gamecube as they can't buy controllers any more, and even those who did have a GC, the controllers are starting to wear out after so many years. Ontop of that a number of Virtual Console games play far better with a GC pad, including nearly every N64 game. We add the later WiiWare games, which can also support GC controllers, and the problem gets even worse.

All up, the Gamecube controller is one of the most important peripherals for the Wii, in some regards it could be argued as more important then the Wiimote itself as it is required for some of the greatest Wii games, and for proper Virtual Console play and backward compatibility. If Nintendo can't handle the production of three controllers, why did they even bother with the Classic Controller? I use the GC controller far more then it, and with the ability to reconfigure the GC button config in classic games, the Classic Controller would be nearly unnecessary.

I know this was a long rant, but I honestly believe Nintendo has to start producing these controllers again, they're now impossible to find in Australia, and new ones are becoming increasingly rare on Ebay. It'd be great if we could get a company such as IGN in contact with Nintendo and yell at them a bit to make them see reason, but I dunno how we'd even go about that : /

DriftRS

Lets kick it up a notch: Screw the GC controllers, NINTENDO: MAKE ME SOME WAVEBIRDS!!!!

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#49 deactivated-62cbf5c22ef38
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[QUOTE="dmil1991"]I just checked, and amazon.com has new platinum GC controllers for sale. Personally though, I'd buy them in Gamestop. A good used controller can be a lot cheaper and still be as good.dmil1991

yea.. I saw those but they are so pricy... have you buy used one?? my GS only have used one... Do they work OK?? do they feel like something is going to fall apart at any moment??

Thx :D

My used controllers are as good as the one I bought new (I have three total). All of my controllers are black, which were only started late in the GC's lifespan. The platinum were also started late in its career too. The indigo and spice controllers were made early on, so watch out for those. The sticks on those tend to be loose. Just before you by them, check the controller through the bag that they are in, and don't by them off the web, cause you don't know what you're getting. I bought my controllers used for $15 each at Gamestop, vs $25 at amazon, and they are all corded. No Wavebirds for me (too many batts).

thx.. I would check my Gamestop next time.. :D

Oh.. and I think we need GC controllers bc I have tons of GC games and CC can not be use to play them.. if they make a new peropheral (this gen) to play GC games, I`m fine. The problem is that we need something, I would get it use bc there is nothing else, but I would like to get them new. :P

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#50 soccerslim79
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i was thinking the same thing the other day

they especially need to make wavebirds