Nintendo Needs A New Series

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#1 Never_Fear
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Sure, Mario, Link, Samus, and all those guys will always be cool and all, but I think Nintendo needs a more realistic character in a more realistic enviorment.

What I'm thinking is that he's a cop in a real but dangerous and highly unknown town. And that's it. A game where you play a bad-a** cop who kills the criminals. Once the job is done for the day, you have to deal with your personal life including a wife and two kids. T rated game for violence, alchol references, andlanguage.

What do you think?

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Sure, Mario, Link, Samus, and all those guys will always be cool and all, but I think Nintendo needs a more realistic character in a more realistic enviorment.

What I'm thinking is that he's a cop in a real but dangerous and highly unknown town. And that's it. A game where you play a bad-a** cop who kills the criminals. Once the job is done for the day, you have to deal with your personal life including a wife and two kids. T rated game for violence, alchol references, andlanguage.

What do you think?

Never_Fear

Dear Never_Fear

You know nintendo. I'll translate it for you.

You're a cop in the happy bear town. Nobody knows of the town. You have to deal with fearsome things every day. Children are skipping school. Clowns are breaking into stores throwing pies at you. And much more.

When you come homeyour lovefully wife and yourchildren arethere and give you ahug.

E rated for drinking coke, throwing pies and saying the word "cheese"

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#3 Jaysonguy
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Nintendo doesn't need to hurt it's brand.

See things like that damage Nintendo and dont make them money so there's no need to inflict PR damage themselves. It's hard enough to compete in the gaming industry, to damage your image yourself doesn't make much sense.

As I'm sure another poster will show Nintendo does make new franchises all the time, let the titles like the one you're talking about be made from a third party dev.

It's just not in Nintendo's best interest.

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#4 LordAndrew
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There's a reason you don't work for Nintendo. :P
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#5 lukefartedagain
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What you've described, aside from the unknown town and the family aspect, is the True Crime series. And how can you expect to play a bad-a** cop who kills criminals, and still get a T rating? I do like the idea of a more realistic character, but that's not it.
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#6 Sparticus247
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Sure, Mario, Link, Samus, and all those guys will always be cool and all, but I think Nintendo needs a more realistic character in a more realistic enviorment.

What I'm thinking is that he's a cop in a real but dangerous and highly unknown town. And that's it. A game where you play a bad-a** cop who kills the criminals. Once the job is done for the day, you have to deal with your personal life including a wife and two kids. T rated game for violence, alchol references, andlanguage.

What do you think?

Never_Fear

1. Nintendo has the most exclusive characters of any platform due to their long running business of about 20 years.

2. Maybe it's just me but I think that is a horrible idea.

3. We need less hard edge games that focus solely on violence, and more games to focus solely on fun.

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#7 dragonfish09
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Sure, Mario, Link, Samus, and all those guys will always be cool and all, but I think Nintendo needs a more realistic character in a more realistic enviorment.

What I'm thinking is that he's a cop in a real but dangerous and highly unknown town. And that's it. A game where you play a bad-a** cop who kills the criminals. Once the job is done for the day, you have to deal with your personal life including a wife and two kids. T rated game for violence, alchol references, andlanguage.

What do you think?

Never_Fear
I think you are right to some extent, but personally I don't want a cop. I don't want real life, I want fantasty stuff. I mean, it would be great to spin off, or develop the metriod universe. I just keep wanting something like halo I guess, because it does a great job of mixing fantasty realism very well. Hmmm....
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#8 Jonthin
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MArio, Linkand Samus are some of the biggest gaming franchises out there, they dont need a new gaming Franchise at all. Although Battalion Wars is now gong into there second game so maybe that will continue with Nintendo.
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#9 hiphops_savior
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And that's the same kind of image that hurt them when they had the GC. Seriously there should be a new franchise that can blow the kiddie perspection completely out of the water. I mean, something that's dark, but not violent-orientated. A character that lives in a world that's eirrily similar to ours, a place that's far from lollipops and rainbows, a place where scapegoating is so common that even the most silliest incident have a "culprit". It can have a more mature plot, and several parodies of pop-culture and video-game criticism, and shock value that made Conker's Bad Fur Day famous. Gameplay is open to suggestions, and I'm aiming the game to be rated M.
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#10 japam
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I'm cerainly in agreement with your first sentence. Nintendo depends too much on 20 year old franchises with 8-bit roots. They should add to what they have with new characters and games built with Wii graphics and controls in mind. The last francise they tried to start was Pikman, which got great reviews but didn't set the charts on fire. Project HAMMER had some potential but its been cancelled and scrapped.

As for your "Bad Lieutenant" idea... No No NO No NO No NO! Cliched, sophomoric, faux-"gritty", it doesn't fit in with Japanese developers' philosophy at all. Not even Rockstar over here would touch it, as they hate cops and authority figures (as do I, to be honest).

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#11 Jaysonguy
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and I'm aiming the game to be rated M.hiphops_savior

Again, you're asking Nintendo to personally damage the most powerful name in gaming.

Nintendo is the global leader when it comes to franchises, no one else comes close. When anyone thinks of a Nintendo game I don't care if they're the hardest of the hardcore or just know about video games in passing they know that a game made by Nintendo will be offered up for all ages. That anyone from 8 years old to 108 can take some sense of enjoyment out of their titles.

It's a concept that has often been imitated but to this point has never been duplicated. Think of it for a second, Nintendo has dominated by making all of it's games appeal to everyone. It's never changed it's style and it's never played into the latest fad with popular culture. Nintendo has made it's games the way it wants to make sure everyone can enjoy them.

To make an (American) football analogy Nintendo tells the other team it's going to run the ball straight at them and the other team can't stop them each and every time.

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#12 roboccs
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I think it would be awesome if they came out with a classic-style RPG; one with a nice long quest, epic storyline, great character development. A lot of people will find this lame but basically I would love something similar to Final Fantasy. Generally anything Nintendo touches is gold so I think they could make something classic but feel new and original at the same time.

When they acquired Monolith, EGM said in their rumor section that they acquired them to develop a "Final Fantasy Killer" RPG and I got really excited but haven't heard anything else. That would be awesome because it could be like Retro was with Metroid; a second party would develop but it would have Nintendo there to sort of "watch" over them.

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New series? -- Disaster: Day Of Crisis, Pikmen, Animal Crossing, Battalion Wars are all new franchises that have started now/GC.
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What I'm thinking is that he's a cop in a real but dangerous and highly unknown town. And that's it. A game where you play a bad-a** cop who kills the criminals. Once the job is done for the day, you have to deal with your personal life including a wife and two kids. T rated game for violence, alchol references, andlanguage.

What do you think?

Never_Fear

and the name for this game will be 'Super Cliche Adventures'?

Mockery aside, I think the closest we were going to see to 'realistic characters' in 'realistic environments' was Project Hammer (developed in house by Ninty), which has sadly been canned/delayed indefinately in favour of the dev team being broken up to work on games that appeal to a much wider audience, ie the dreaded casual gamers, zomg!

Project Hammer def seemed to have its roots in appealing to the Halo lovers of todays gaming world.

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One franchise would not damage Ninty's reputation, but just making games for everyone also means you have to lure the Halo fans and the GTA fans as well. I would admit there are risks involved, but it's not rated M for violence. It's rated M the same reason why Judd Apatow films are rated R. It's so mature that little kids wouldn't get the sense of humour. And the concept isn't in terms of violence, but in the plot. The same reason why a game such as Half Life 2 racked in awards like mad, is the fact that the plot advances the game.

I'm looking for a new franchise that shows progression, and it can show that Nintendo is capable of making games that aim towards an older audience. Sure, Wii Sports and Wii Fit are great, but the main concern that I have is that Ninty could overplay the casual market. BTW, is Samus turning into a sex symbol or something?

To put your saying in American Football analogy, wouldn't that make Nintendo predictable? The element of surprise is the best weapon anyone can use, and is too valuable to ignore.

Oh, and did that same strategy succeed on the Gamecube?

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#16 LordAndrew
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New series? -- Disaster: Day Of Crisis, Pikmen, Animal Crossing, Battalion Wars are all new franchises that have started now/GC. Haziqonfire

Batallion Wars new? The Nintendo Wars series goes all the way back to the Famicom (NES).

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They need to bring back Project HAMMER. Now there's a mascot that would have shut up a lot of the Nintendo detractors.
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#18 Jaysonguy
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One franchise would not damage Ninty's reputation, but just making games for everyone also means you have to lure the Halo fans and the GTA fans as well. I would admit there are risks involved, but it's not rated M for violence. It's rated M the same reason why Judd Apatow films are rated R. It's so mature that little kids wouldn't get the sense of humour. And the concept isn't in terms of violence, but in the plot. The same reason why a game such as Half Life 2 racked in awards like mad, is the fact that the plot advances the game.

I'm looking for a new franchise that shows progression, and it can show that Nintendo is capable of making games that aim towards an older audience. Sure, Wii Sports and Wii Fit are great, but the main concern that I have is that Ninty could overplay the casual market. BTW, is Samus turning into a sex symbol or something?

To put your saying in American Football analogy, wouldn't that make Nintendo predictable? The element of surprise is the best weapon anyone can use, and is too valuable to ignore.

Oh, and did that same strategy succeed on the Gamecube?

hiphops_savior

Yes it would damage them if it was just one title. You do one thing "wrong" in this world and you're done. There's too much competition to allow second and third mistakes.

A level of quality is not being predictable.

As for the Gamecube the main reason that failed is that it didn't come with a DVD player. In the Asian market a DVD player was more then a console so they went with that "other" console since it did both. If the Gamecube had one it's install base would be 2 or three times what the final tally was.

It's not like there's not other devs out there who can take the chance with these titles.

Stop taking what isn't broken and trying to fix it.

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#19 cobrax80
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I agree, you can never have too many quality franchises. I think Disaster: Day of crisis is a cool new one, Too bad Project H.A.M.M.E.R got canned though. Pikmin is a cool new one too. And so is Wii Sports, ExciteTruck and NitroBike.
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#20 cobrax80
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]New series? -- Disaster: Day Of Crisis, Pikmen, Animal Crossing, Battalion Wars are all new franchises that have started now/GC. LordAndrew

Batallion Wars new? The Nintendo Wars series goes all the way back to the Famicom (NES).

No, while it may be based off of the old franchise, Battalion Wars is a new franchise.

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Sure, Mario, Link, Samus, and all those guys will always be cool and all, but I think Nintendo needs a more realistic character in a more realistic enviorment.

What I'm thinking is that he's a cop in a real but dangerous and highly unknown town. And that's it. A game where you play a bad-a** cop who kills the criminals. Once the job is done for the day, you have to deal with your personal life including a wife and two kids. T rated game for violence, alchol references, andlanguage.

What do you think?

Never_Fear


I don't think I'd want to work on a project like that. Personally, I think it would be a bland, cliché game and probably wouldn't even buy it. A more realistic RPG, yeah, I'd go for that. But definitely not what you're suggesting.
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#22 Djinnator
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they need a huge real time RPG with 1:1 combat and multiplayer, at least that is my opinion.
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#23 monty_4256
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new series? like project hammer? hmmmm
disastor? hmmm
chibi robot? hmmm

things don't seem to be going well there...

Edit: new titles will start rolling out now retros been freed up, and they're not gonna do any of that "wii -----" stuff

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#24 toadster101
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Agreed.