Nintendo seems awfully quiet on the whole Manhunt 2 controversy...

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#1 Master_Hermes
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Microsoft and Sony have never licenced an AO game on their platforms and I believe Microsoft actually has it as company policy to never do so. With that said, do you guys think Nintendo will back Rockstar and TakeTwo if Manhunt 2 gets a finalized rating of AO? Will Nintendo licence it and put their name on this game? For some reason I doubt they will, while Nintendo has been more forgiving lately with graphic content on their platforms than either MS or Sony (only the GC versions of BMX XXX and Killer 7 were uncut), an AO rating maybe crossing the line. Your thoughts?
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#2 nimblemiix
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I have a feeling that the PS2 version will get an M rating while the Wii version, with it's motion controls, will get an AO. Nintendo seemed pretty determined to get a Rockstar game and I think they're gonna stick with it. I honestly don't understand why everyone is freaking. You shouldn't play this game unless you're old enough to purchase it. WOOPS....that means only adults. Sorry kids. If you're that determined to play this, and are underraged....well....I'm sure you'll find a solution. Never stopped me from getting Mortal Kombat back in the day...
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Lots of Nintendo platform games in the UK carry an 18 certificate and rightly so. They've never had to make an announcement about them.
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theyve had what, two whole days since britain outlawed it and like 20 hours since the AO rating? god nintendo, you gotta stay on top of this!
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#5 cobrax80
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Trust me when i say that Nintendo wants mature games on their system badly, i don't know why Nintendo has not said anything yet, my guess is they don't want to be involved in this if things get too serious.
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Trust me when i say that Nintendo wants mature games on their system badly, i don't know why Nintendo has not said anything yet, my guess is they don't want to be involved in this if things get too serious.cobrax80

i think that if nintendo PUBLICLY backs this game up, jack thompson, stupid christian groups (like the ones attacking sony for the church scene), and others, will be all up nintendo's @$$

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#7 Duckman5
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Nintendo's always quiet. This isn't any different.
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This is huge I mean HUGE! Nintendo, for as long I can remember was called "kiddie". But they where the only company to give us the uncensored version of BMXXX and Killer 7. They even was going to release a border line H-Game on the DS this year. So I think Nintendo is either going to back off the Manhunt thing or help defend Rockstar with the rating.
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This is huge I mean HUGE! Nintendo, for as long I can remember was called "kiddie". But they where the only company to give us the uncensored version of BMXXX and Killer 7. They even was going to release a border line H-Game on the DS this year. So I think Nintendo is either going to back off the Manhunt thing or help defend Rockstar with the rating.matallicthewolf

I'm sure they will defend it, they want mature games on their system badly, They did comment and defend manhunt 2 a month or so back, so i guess that's a good sign.

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#10 yoda-san
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If the rating of Manhunt 2 sticks of AO due to Take-Two not doing anything about it by release, Nintendo can be the first ever in history to licence a real AO rated game and shove it to people who'd said Nintendo is "kiddy" only! Show me that the Wii was made for everyone, Nintendo!

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Who ever said they wanted rated M games Badly? did you hear that from nintendo? NIntendo doesnt mined rated M games on their systems, I doubt theyve ever had a prob with it. Its just now more Rated M games wanna be on the wii for its Motion controls, Im pretty sure if wii didnt have motion controls or a pointer, then it wouldve probably came out on the ps2 only.
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This is huge I mean HUGE! Nintendo, for as long I can remember was called "kiddie". But they where the only company to give us the uncensored version of BMXXX and Killer 7. They even was going to release a border line H-Game on the DS this year. So I think Nintendo is either going to back off the Manhunt thing or help defend Rockstar with the rating.matallicthewolf

You sure Killer 7 was censored? The gore and swearing was still in tact in the GC version.....And many other M games still had all the gore in tact. Mortal Kombat 5+6 and RE4are examples of this.

Also, I'd like to bring this interview up again. It clearly states Nintendo WANTS mature content, because they themselves don't specialise in that field: From the producer of Scarface -

I would say that Nintendo were the most inviting company in terms of, "We really want mature content. We want ours to be a system for all ages." They don't feel the system is just for little kids. Which I agree with. I've seen more older people have fun with the Wii than you can imagine. To watch my mom play with the Wii was something I never thought I'd see. She'd never pick up a 360 or PS3 controller. But she plays "Wii Sports" with the grandkids.

And Ed Boon from Midway on MK Armageddon on Wii:

I think Nintendo recognizes that there is room for mature rated games in their library of available titles. We had zero problems with them in terms of us including the complete version of "Armageddon".

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I don't think this is "huge" news, because I've never thought of Nintendo as being aimed at kids. I'd almost want to buy the game because I can, but it really doesn't interest me at all anyway. Anyone who worries about how many Mature and up games a console has is wasting their time, really.
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do people actually think that the wii controller is making it a lot more immersive? it may be more fun then mashing buttons but in the end, its not even close to killing someone. knowing how to kill someone is already ingrained in everybody's brain. and the wiimote is actually making you use even less motions than you normally would. or more. in real life, you just bonk the guy once really hard.
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Who ever said they wanted rated M games Badly? did you hear that from nintendo? NIntendo doesnt mined rated M games on their systems, I doubt theyve ever had a prob with it. Its just now more Rated M games wanna be on the wii for its Motion controls, Im pretty sure if wii didnt have motion controls or a pointer, then it wouldve probably came out on the ps2 only.EndlessPunisher

common misconsception

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#16 LINKloco
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Who ever said they wanted rated M games Badly? did you hear that from nintendo? NIntendo doesnt mined rated M games on their systems, I doubt theyve ever had a prob with it. Its just now more Rated M games wanna be on the wii for its Motion controls, Im pretty sure if wii didnt have motion controls or a pointer, then it wouldve probably came out on the ps2 only.EndlessPunisher
They have gone out of their way to see that more M rated games make it to the Wii.
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nintendo not stuip they know what they doing manhunt get all the media meaning sells going 2 be up $$$$$$$$$
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i think nntendo are secretly pleased with the rating as it goes a long way to shaking off the 'kiddy' image
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i think nntendo are secretly pleased with the rating as it goes a long way to shaking off the 'kiddy' imagemark_c_128

Lol could be true, but why should Nintendo bother kicking up a fuss? They never askedR* to make it this violent (although it was inevitable) but to be honest it's not going to make a huge dent in their name/sales as it would be a top class seller as the likes of Zelda & Mario titles.

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#20 cradleOFfilth37
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Nintendo hasn't said anything because they want Manhunt on their system and the more "adult" it is the better because they want to shake the "kid's toy image". I'm sure Nintendohas wanted a Rockstar game for a while and it works out nicely that it is basically an excluse because I can't imagine buying the PS2version.The only problem is, I don't thinkretailers will carry an AO game.
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Personally, Nintendo can't do anything about the problem but either back it up or let it go.. Rockstar is the one with it's head on the chopping block... They can either keep it Ao and risk it not selling at all stores and see if it still sales well, or they can tweak the game and make it M rated and see if it still sales well or not.

Plus Iwata probably does not care any way about this game or it's rating, Considering that Japan has strict rules on violence in general hince the edited version of Resident Evil 4. I think it will probably come down to Reggie's decision if Nintendo wanted to take a stancebased upon him being President Ceo whatever of Nintendo of America. I think he will probably say go for it.. that is why the rating system is in place. I jsut think this is only a start of R* and nintendo relationship..

Also Nintendo has to deal with the whole texas lawsuit, so i dobut the whole R* issue is a major thing to them right now..

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I hope they back Rockstar. But Rockstar has to understand that this could/would crush the sales of the game. I would love to own it.
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#23 angelfly
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This is what reggie wanted. Because of this game and the controversy surrounding it you'll see a massive increase in demand for system (which is already extremely high).
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#24 cradleOFfilth37
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Of course they'll back up Rockstar because Ninty has their back now they may get some more Rockstar games in the future.
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This is what reggie wanted. Because of this game and the controversy surrounding it you'll see a massive increase in demand for system (which is already extremely high). angelfly

Probably so. Even bad news is good publicity.

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I have a feeling that the PS2 version will get an M rating while the Wii version, with it's motion controls, will get an AO. Nintendo seemed pretty determined to get a Rockstar game and I think they're gonna stick with it. I honestly don't understand why everyone is freaking. You shouldn't play this game unless you're old enough to purchase it. WOOPS....that means only adults. Sorry kids. If you're that determined to play this, and are underraged....well....I'm sure you'll find a solution. Never stopped me from getting Mortal Kombat back in the day...nimblemiix

Yeah don't make such a big deal about it, if you want it so much you can just ask your parents to buy it for you...

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This game will be one of the few games that are rated AO. The game is a sick game and i dont even know why anyone would want to play it. You can rip a guys spine out with pliars. I think they are quiet because Nintendo hasnt really had too many games where you brutally kill somebody. Either that or its not coming out for a month and they have a bunch of other great games that are coming before that, or maybe both. Nintendo has other good games that are coming out before Manhunt, and those games will be much better than manhunt. Manhunt wasnt really talked about until it was scheduled for the wii.

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I have a feeling if this game is realesed the way it was meant to be released (no edits or reworks) then this game will sell ALOT based on publicity alone.
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There are a lot of politics involving the A.O. line. From Nintendo's standpoint, how are they going to address it on Nintendo Power. I agree that it's up to the parent to decide on what games to buy their kids, but you can't remain silent on this issue either. Since many subscribers to themagazine are children, how willNintendo "keep it in the dark" like movie theaters do with NC-17 rated films. Last time I checked, you're not allowed to "mass market" games of an NC-17 rating. Big dilemma here.
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i'll got 2 get it
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They don't want to touch it with a 24 and a half inch pole. They WILL sit back and let the publicity do what it does, let the consumers see that they aren't only a company for the young audience.

I think that the challenges of this game being AO are really none existent. I for one didn't know anything about the Manhunt series before this. How many people are going to be talking to people they know about this contraversy? How many people who don't normally follow games will hear about this particular game? They don't need to advertise anymore. the contraversy in the media has raised awareness and love it, hate it, or otherwise, people will know about it.

Think of the Exorcist and it's effect on society. Think of The Haunting! Today's generation has never seen an advertisement for the Exorcist, but they know what it is and they can't help but think of pea soup.

If Nintendo is smart it will not move into the limelight, because doing so will just move it to a particular audience and that is that last thing they want!

Manhunt will probably be released in it's current form. The kind of work that will be needed to have it ready for release is pretty intense (I assume) and they aren't going to greatly effect their profits by extending producion time andwatering down the game that got them this publicity. The game is on the Top Games links at the bottom of this page TWICE! It will sell more as an AO game regardless of who carries it. The only question I have is what is this going to do to EB/Gamestop?

If they are one of a few suppliers, then their sales will boom and they'll gain more customer loyalty. If they don't then they'll lose them and someone else may become a serious contender for top dog.

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Wii for everyone. Not E for Everyone.
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Microsoft and Sony have never licenced an AO game on their platforms and I believe Microsoft actually has it as company policy to never do so. With that said, do you guys think Nintendo will back Rockstar and TakeTwo if Manhunt 2 gets a finalized rating of AO? Will Nintendo licence it and put their name on this game? For some reason I doubt they will, while Nintendo has been more forgiving lately with graphic content on their platforms than either MS or Sony (only the GC versions of BMX XXX and Killer 7 were uncut), an AO rating maybe crossing the line. Your thoughts?Master_Hermes

I severly doubt MS has a "company policy" to never allow an AO rated game on their system. That's a statement you have to back up with a link imo because it sounds like total bs.
Ninteno will allow this game on their system. It'll help b-slap the kiddie image they have.
If games like this don't start hitting shelves, then the industry will never truely evolve beyond what it is right now. It's not only Wii, PS2, and PSP gamers that need this. It's for the greater good of the entire industry. Consumers and developers.

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They don't want to touch it with a 24 and a half inch pole. They WILL sit back and let the publicity do what it does, let the consumers see that they aren't only a company for the young audience.

I think that the challenges of this game being AO are really none existent. I for one didn't know anything about the Manhunt series before this. How many people are going to be talking to people they know about this contraversy? How many people who don't normally follow games will hear about this particular game? They don't need to advertise anymore. the contraversy in the media has raised awareness and love it, hate it, or otherwise, people will know about it.

Think of the Exorcist and it's effect on society. Think of The Haunting! Today's generation has never seen an advertisement for the Exorcist, but they know what it is and they can't help but think of pea soup.

If Nintendo is smart it will not move into the limelight, because doing so will just move it to a particular audience and that is that last thing they want!

Manhunt will probably be released in it's current form. The kind of work that will be needed to have it ready for release is pretty intense (I assume) and they aren't going to greatly effect their profits by extending producion time andwatering down the game that got them this publicity. The game is on the Top Games links at the bottom of this page TWICE! It will sell more as an AO game regardless of who carries it. The only question I have is what is this going to do to EB/Gamestop?

If they are one of a few suppliers, then their sales will boom and they'll gain more customer loyalty. If they don't then they'll lose them and someone else may become a serious contender for top dog.

effthat

Well said.
And if EB won't carry the game they'd lose all their cred as a game store, in my eyes anyway. I sure wouldn't support their stores anymore, I'm serious. It's bad enough they don't sell routers or computer cables. And it's not like they're the only place in town to buy games, and it's not like they have good prices either,

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[QUOTE="effthat"]

They don't want to touch it with a 24 and a half inch pole. They WILL sit back and let the publicity do what it does, let the consumers see that they aren't only a company for the young audience.

I think that the challenges of this game being AO are really none existent. I for one didn't know anything about the Manhunt series before this. How many people are going to be talking to people they know about this contraversy? How many people who don't normally follow games will hear about this particular game? They don't need to advertise anymore. the contraversy in the media has raised awareness and love it, hate it, or otherwise, people will know about it.

Think of the Exorcist and it's effect on society. Think of The Haunting! Today's generation has never seen an advertisement for the Exorcist, but they know what it is and they can't help but think of pea soup.

If Nintendo is smart it will not move into the limelight, because doing so will just move it to a particular audience and that is that last thing they want!

Manhunt will probably be released in it's current form. The kind of work that will be needed to have it ready for release is pretty intense (I assume) and they aren't going to greatly effect their profits by extending producion time andwatering down the game that got them this publicity. The game is on the Top Games links at the bottom of this page TWICE! It will sell more as an AO game regardless of who carries it. The only question I have is what is this going to do to EB/Gamestop?

If they are one of a few suppliers, then their sales will boom and they'll gain more customer loyalty. If they don't then they'll lose them and someone else may become a serious contender for top dog.

Conjuration

Well said.
And if EB won't carry the game they'd lose all their cred as a game store, in my eyes anyway. I sure wouldn't support their stores anymore, I'm serious. It's bad enough they don't sell routers or computer cables. And it's not like they're the only place in town to buy games, and it's not like they have good prices either,

...Damn morals! Stupid Policies! [kicks stone]

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#36 Sepewrath
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Nintendo has already said there piece, now it is simply on Rockstar to solve the problem. As long as it is rated AO it wont be released no matter how stupid that decision is. Rockstar will simply have to find a way to get this game rated M.
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#37 Bobakuzero
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Nintendo wants Rockstar to produce games for that certain audience..
But a dissagreement now could lead to arguments and a nonproductive relationship between the two.
Given that I think Nintendo will try to back Rockstar.
I dont care for Rockstar or their games either way.. But It would bring a new audeince.. more sales more games. Better console they say.
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#38 BDAOutlaw
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Lets look at it this way...Do you think if Nintendo were to back up whole AO situation....Rockstarand Take Twowould return the favor by creating more exclusive games for the Wii........and DS i guess....... but Wii mainly.

GTA!!!!!!

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#39 gooflee
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All 3 hardware providers (Sony,MS,Nintendo) said they do not want AO games for their system, when the AO rating was announced. Gamespot had this news item on the front page a few days back, so I am surprised by all of the theories on this thread.
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#40 Ryder123
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If they don't want AO games on there consoles then howcome Sony didn't do anything about the AO version of Gta San Andreas? It was AO for like a month before the M version came out.
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#41 gooflee
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If they don't want AO games on there consoles then howcome Sony didn't do anything about the AO version of Gta San Andreas? It was AO for like a month before the M version came out.Ryder123

Actually, it was M but later changed to AO after the hot coffee mod was found. When the change occurred, majority of the stores pulled the game off of their selves and made ebayers happy because they could command a premium for their game.