Nintendo should develop a real-time strategy for Wii

I'm kind of astonished they have delivered a good one yet. It's controls makes it the second best concil (besides PC) for this gameplay format. Controls could be simplistic and fun. If they expanded Fire Emblems genre to a real-time strategy I think that would be cool.

And Nintendo said, Let there be Pikmin 3: and there was Pikmin 3.

Not from Nintendo, but there's an 'Anno'-game coming for Wii, which is pretty similiar to some PC strategy titles.

Pikmin 3 is in Development and Pikmin 1 & 2 remakes are already out

P.S: Who said PC has better controls than the Wii? In my opinion Wii's are way better :P

Real-Time Strategies are always better on the computer.

Pikmin 3 is in Development and Pikmin 1 & 2 remakes are already out

P.S: Who said PC has better controls than the Wii? In my opinion Wii's are way better :P

Resimaniac

It's not that they are better, it's that there's more buttons, and settings. Also, for PC games, there are downloadable mods that make the game more customizable.

Pikmin 3 is in Development and Pikmin 1 & 2 remakes are already out

P.S: Who said PC has better controls than the Wii? In my opinion Wii's are way better :P

Resimaniac

It's not that they are better, it's that there's more buttons, and settings. Also, for PC games, there are downloadable mods that make the game more customizable.

It's called Pikmin 3.

RTS-esque games on Wii

Dawn of Discovery (this fall)

NPC Pikmin, NPC Pikmin 2, Pikmin 3 (hopefully)

Overlord Dark Legend, Swords and Soldiers (side scrolling RTS), and Takt of Magic

People, I believe that he is not referring to Pikmin 3. Pikmin 3 is more of an adventure game anyway. It involves more exploration than tactical strategy. I heard that battalion wars 2 was a fail, so that's off the table. YoPieJoe is saying he wants an actual RTS game, not a game that people claim is an RTS when really it is more of an adventure game. I'm not bashing Pikmin 3, I actually look forward to one, but I am saying that people are inaccurately depicting it.Pyro767

People, I believe that he is not referring to Pikmin 3. Pikmin 3 is more of an adventure game anyway. It involves more exploration than tactical strategy. I heard that battalion wars 2 was a fail, so that's off the table. YoPieJoe is saying he wants an actual RTS game, not a game that people claim is an RTS when really it is more of an adventure game. I'm not bashing Pikmin 3, I actually look forward to one, but I am saying that people are inaccurately depicting it.Pyro767

Pikmin is listed everywhere as a Real-Time-Strategy Game. It's just not the conventional one. There really is no debate as to whether or not it is. Adventure game is your personal opinion.

[QUOTE="Pyro767"]People, I believe that he is not referring to Pikmin 3. Pikmin 3 is more of an adventure game anyway. It involves more exploration than tactical strategy. I heard that battalion wars 2 was a fail, so that's off the table. YoPieJoe is saying he wants an actual RTS game, not a game that people claim is an RTS when really it is more of an adventure game. I'm not bashing Pikmin 3, I actually look forward to one, but I am saying that people are inaccurately depicting it.wetwilli64

Pikmin is listed everywhere as a Real-Time-Strategy Game. It's just not the conventional one. There really is no debate as to whether or not it is. Adventure game is your personal opinion.

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Pikmin 3 is in Development and Pikmin 1 & 2 remakes are already out

P.S: Who said PC has better controls than the Wii? In my opinion Wii's are way better :P

Resimaniac

It's not that they are better, it's that there's more buttons, and settings. Also, for PC games, there are downloadable mods that make the game more customizable.

guys , seriously, Pikmin is classified RTS by pretty much by being closest to it than any other genre.Not because by technical means its an RTS means its a satisfying title for most RTS fans.Non self respecting player would name Pikmin as an example of RTS when asked to name one game representing the genre.Is not a propper fix for those players hungry for tactical strategy and head to head action as well as massive army commands.it lacks 50% of features found in nearly every single RTS.Its not, and you know it.If you loved red alert or 90% of strategy games, SC, WC, AOE, to bring the most important titles, the player who gets Pikmin expecting that experience will end up dissapointed. its a different type of game, that for a lack of better suitability is classified RTS. Pikmin is a great game but if someone who liked warhammer or anything rts related asks me for a good rts to buy i would be asking for a slap in the face later by recommending Pikmin.intro94

http://wii.hl2world.com/media.html + http://www.empiresmod.com/info.php = Amazing game on the wii and dont say it has nothing to do with rts, because then you obviously know nothing about Empires Mod.

If you have hl2 on pc, try empires mod. It's a bit hard to learn some of the special stuff, but once you get into it, it all makes sense. I'm not trying to make a commercial out of this post, but Empires propably is the best idea in fps gaming i have seen in a looong time and it wold go so well on the wii if using the wiimote to it's full extent.

I have dreamed of a real RTS game from they day i got the WII :)

And RTS developed by Nintendo, eh?

Well, I think Pikmin and Battalion Wars fit that category quite nicely.

[QUOTE="intro94"]guys , seriously, Pikmin is classified RTS by pretty much by being closest to it than any other genre.Not because by technical means its an RTS means its a satisfying title for most RTS fans.Non self respecting player would name Pikmin as an example of RTS when asked to name one game representing the genre.Is not a propper fix for those players hungry for tactical strategy and head to head action as well as massive army commands.it lacks 50% of features found in nearly every single RTS.Its not, and you know it.If you loved red alert or 90% of strategy games, SC, WC, AOE, to bring the most important titles, the player who gets Pikmin expecting that experience will end up dissapointed. its a different type of game, that for a lack of better suitability is classified RTS. Pikmin is a great game but if someone who liked warhammer or anything rts related asks me for a good rts to buy i would be asking for a slap in the face later by recommending Pikmin.Pyro767

Sure, it may not contain all of the elements, but it IS a real-time strategy. Here is a quote taken from Wikipedia on what a RTS is.

In an RTS, as in other wargames, the participants position and maneuver units and structures under their control to secure areas of the map and/or destroy their opponents' assets. Well, Pikmin contains plenty of maneuvering and positioning of units. Not to mention, you do try to secure areas by "destroying" enemy assets (walls, enemies, etc.).

In a typical RTS it is possible to create additional units and structures during the course of a game. This is generally limited by a requirement to expend accumulated resources. Yes, in Pikmin, you can create additional units which is limited by what resources you have (defeated enemies).

These resources are in turn garnered by controlling special points on the map and/or possessing certain types of units and structures devoted to this purpose. This is also true of Pikmin, where only certain units (colored Pikmin) can sometimes allow you to gather these resources (defeat enemies).

More specifically, the typical game of the RTS genre features resource gathering, base building, in-game technological development and indirect control of units. Resource gathering? Check. Base building? Well, you do create structures. But your initial base is already set. In-game technological development? Yes as Olimar/Louie can gather items to gain new technologies. Idirect control of units? Yes. Just give them a task and move on to another.

While not exactly fitting the terms, it still contain many elements of an RTS. I mean, what else could it be?

Real-Time Strategies are always better on the computer.

awssk8er716

Its not an rts but I think the next final fantasy tactics ahould be on wii. The system could easily support it, and I think the graphics/story should be more in line with the original and not the cutsy gba ds sequals. these games were ok but nowhere near as cool as the original.

As far as rts' go battalion wars was not to bad and if they add more features and tweak a few things before the next entry it would be awsome.

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[QUOTE="intro94"]guys , seriously, Pikmin is classified RTS by pretty much by being closest to it than any other genre.Not because by technical means its an RTS means its a satisfying title for most RTS fans.Non self respecting player would name Pikmin as an example of RTS when asked to name one game representing the genre.Is not a propper fix for those players hungry for tactical strategy and head to head action as well as massive army commands.it lacks 50% of features found in nearly every single RTS.Its not, and you know it.If you loved red alert or 90% of strategy games, SC, WC, AOE, to bring the most important titles, the player who gets Pikmin expecting that experience will end up dissapointed. its a different type of game, that for a lack of better suitability is classified RTS. Pikmin is a great game but if someone who liked warhammer or anything rts related asks me for a good rts to buy i would be asking for a slap in the face later by recommending Pikmin.Wolblade

Sure, it may not contain all of the elements, but it IS a real-time strategy. Here is a quote taken from Wikipedia on what a RTS is.

In an RTS, as in other wargames, the participants position and maneuver units and structures under their control to secure areas of the map and/or destroy their opponents' assets. Well, Pikmin contains plenty of maneuvering and positioning of units. Not to mention, you do try to secure areas by "destroying" enemy assets (walls, enemies, etc.).

In a typical RTS it is possible to create additional units and structures during the course of a game. This is generally limited by a requirement to expend accumulated resources. Yes, in Pikmin, you can create additional units which is limited by what resources you have (defeated enemies).

These resources are in turn garnered by controlling special points on the map and/or possessing certain types of units and structures devoted to this purpose. This is also true of Pikmin, where only certain units (colored Pikmin) can sometimes allow you to gather these resources (defeat enemies).

More specifically, the typical game of the RTS genre features resource gathering, base building, in-game technological development and indirect control of units. Resource gathering? Check. Base building? Well, you do create structures. But your initial base is already set. In-game technological development? Yes as Olimar/Louie can gather items to gain new technologies. Idirect control of units? Yes. Just give them a task and move on to another.

While not exactly fitting the terms, it still contain many elements of an RTS. I mean, what else could it be?

It would be better on PC. not just for controls/customizable options its because special mods to enchance the multiplayer experience. If you've played Starcraft on Battlenet there is a whole Campaign Editor and a bunch of extra things people make like Golems or Broodlings. Same with Warcraft making the incredible DotA. The online play runs very nicely on Battlenet without any fee and I just dont think the Wii will allow all that user-created content and as good online play as the ordinary PC RTS does.

It would be better on PC. not just for controls/customizable options its because special mods to enchance the multiplayer experience. If you've played Starcraft on Battlenet there is a whole Campaign Editor and a bunch of extra things people make like Golems or Broodlings. Same with Warcraft making the incredible DotA. The online play runs very nicely on Battlenet without any fee and I just dont think the Wii will allow all that user-created content and as good online play as the ordinary PC RTS does.

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