Nintendo: The Most Stubborn Gaming Company

Before I go on let me point out that EVERY system I've ever own was something Nintendo.

The reason why I say this is because Nintendo fans are always saying they want something but Nintendo almost never gives it to them. Now that Rock Band has come out saying that the Wii needs a hard drive to be able to have DLC. Reggie said something similar about Brawl. Now fans are asking Nintendo for a hard drive. Let me give you some reasons why we won't get one.

1. Out of all the games that have WiFi, at the most half of them are games that would work with some sort of DLC.
2. Really only 3 games "need" DLC, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Rock Band, and Guitar Hero 3.
3. Nintendo doesn't seem to care that much about their 3rd party games so they aren't gonna take what, correct me if I'm wrong, Harmonix said about Nintendo should make an expansion hard drive for the Wii seriously.

But the stubborness isn't all that bad. Some good comes out of it. A little of the stubborness comes from the fact that they make many good 1st and 2nd party games. Because of this, to me at least, they act like they are a little better than the competition. They think their games are better that the 3rd party games for the Wii.

Sorry I'm getting a little off track

Because they focuse so much on their 1st and 2nd party games, they almost always do well. Super Mario Galaxy, Pikmin, Super Smash Bros, ect. At least on Gamespot, Metroid Prime was the the highest rated game for Game Cube and to me it seems similar to Halo. I'M NOT TELLING NINTENDO TO GET HALO 4 WII! I'm just saying Nintendo should get 3rd party games similar to Halo, such as Gears of War. I think that may be a only Microsoft game but you get the point.

Think about this, why are there so many games that come out for only PS3 and Xbox 360 and leaving out Wii? It upsets me a little but then I just think that we get every Mario game, every Metroid game, and every Zelda game.

Please leave any messages if you have any questions about my phylosophy on this, to correct me, or just to leave your opinion. PLEASE NO FLAMING!

I think they are extremely stubborn and its lame.

Another thing to consider is that most of the decisions comee out of Japan and they are not connected with the bigger western audiences. Japan seems to be falling away from gaming so user input must not be as helpful there. If nintendo really wants to sky rocket then they have to make their western divisions more significant. NST considering what they are capable of, havent mad ethat many great games. I think if NOA had a full on REAL dev house then alot of these problems would be met.

A little of the stubborness comes from the fact that they make many good 1st and 2nd party games. Because of this, to me at least, they act like they are a little better than the competition. They think their games are better that the 3rd party games for the Wii.

Think about this, why are there so many games that come out for only PS3 and Xbox 360 and leaving out Wii? It upsets me a little but then I just think that we get every Mario game, every Metroid game, and every Zelda game.

WhiteSoxBud

The main reason PS3 and 360 games don't come to the Wii is that the Wii's specs are so much different from the PS3 and 360. The Wii can't do a lot of things those other consoles can, so developers have two main options, 1) take out enough stuff so that the game will run on the Wii, and have Wii owners say, "why is the Wii version so lame compared to the PS3/360 version?" 2) make games for the PS3 and 360, and different games for the Wii that take advantage of the Wii's strengths.

If you bought a Wii and expected it to get all the most technically advanced games, you shouldn't have bought a Wii. If you bought a Wii, but you don't care about Nintendo's 1st and 2nd party games, you shouldn't have bought a Wii.

Everyone, this is not the System Wars forum. We should not be bringing up references to other platforms on this forum.onesimos

I understand your concern but I do believe it fits in here. Although perhaps their were a "Nintendo" forum it would better fit in there. It seems that many of the Wii fans here agree somewhat with the poster. Although as you indicated it could get out of hand but I doubt it will progress to such a level.

Everyone, this is not the System Wars forum. We should not be bringing up references to other platforms on this forum.onesimos

I understand your concern but I do believe it fits in here. Although perhaps their were a "Nintendo" forum it would better fit in there. It seems that many of the Wii fans here agree somewhat with the poster. Although as you indicated it could get out of hand but I doubt it will progress to such a level.

Edit: I think referencing to other gaming platforms helps set the standard of understanding where the Wii is --relevant to the subject.

I think they are a little stubborn as well.

They're not really stubborn as they do listen to fans. It's just that they don't have much of an online system and they don't really know where to go with it (but that seems to be changing with Mario Kart). They don't listen to fans in the online aspect of their business.

One other thing they seem to refuse to budge on is the hard drive and memory problems. VC games take up too much space after a while and downloading and re-downloading takes too long. Plus Wiiware games will undoubtedly cause more problems. At least let us run the games directly off an SD card!

Anyway, that's my thoughts on Nintendo's "stubbornness". Its not so bad though.

Nintendo is going to do what Nintendo wants. Plain and simple. They do not fall to fads, create something they don't find to be the best it could be, or follow what everyone else is doing. Right or wrong, they've been doing this for quite some time now. Nintendo has gambled A LOT in this generation and I can tell you with some sincerity that I've never seen a more popular system in my life.

"Hardcore" gamers want other systems. Fine, take them.

Everyone else wants a Wii.

As a personal thought, I feel like people give too much crap to Nintendo for not having this or that feature on their systems. As far as that is concerned, I can see where they are coming from, but I can see where Nintendo is coming from a little more clearly. They made a strikingly simplistic console that almost anybody can use and enjoy, different features aside. Now Nintendo is doing well. I'm shocked.

Look into a Wii and if it's not for you, don't buy it. If you want it then go for it, and good luck finding one.

You're right, Nintendo are stubborn. This can be good and bad. I mean, if they weren't so stubborn about sticking to their whole 'disruption' philosophy we wouldn't have Wii right now. Then again, their reluctance to sort out the major storage problem restricting their system is flat out annoying. Why is everyone so obsessed with getting a HDD though? The Wii has an SD card slot. You can get 8gb SD cards. Problem solved.

You're right, Nintendo are stubborn. This can be good and bad. I mean, if they weren't so stubborn about sticking to their whole 'disruption' philosophy we wouldn't have Wii right now. Then again, their reluctance to sort out the major storage problem restricting their system is flat out annoying. Why is everyone so obsessed with getting a HDD though? The Wii has an SD card slot. You can get 8gb SD cards. Problem solved.

manicfoot

The wii can only handle a 2gb card.

[QUOTE="manicfoot"]

You're right, Nintendo are stubborn. This can be good and bad. I mean, if they weren't so stubborn about sticking to their whole 'disruption' philosophy we wouldn't have Wii right now. Then again, their reluctance to sort out the major storage problem restricting their system is flat out annoying. Why is everyone so obsessed with getting a HDD though? The Wii has an SD card slot. You can get 8gb SD cards. Problem solved.

DJSAV_101

The wii can only handle a 2gb card.

Yeah. You can also get a few 4 GB SD cards, but most of them don't work. Also, the ability to run VC games and use save files DIRECTLY off the SD card would be great.

[QUOTE="manicfoot"]

You're right, Nintendo are stubborn. This can be good and bad. I mean, if they weren't so stubborn about sticking to their whole 'disruption' philosophy we wouldn't have Wii right now. Then again, their reluctance to sort out the major storage problem restricting their system is flat out annoying. Why is everyone so obsessed with getting a HDD though? The Wii has an SD card slot. You can get 8gb SD cards. Problem solved.

DJSAV_101

The wii can only handle a 2gb card.

I stand corrected. Still, I think a few 2GB SD cards is a better solution than a bulky hard disk. It would make life a lot easier for Nintendo as well. All they have to do is update the firmware so Wii can boot Wiiware/VC from SD cards.

[QUOTE="DJSAV_101"][QUOTE="manicfoot"]

You're right, Nintendo are stubborn. This can be good and bad. I mean, if they weren't so stubborn about sticking to their whole 'disruption' philosophy we wouldn't have Wii right now. Then again, their reluctance to sort out the major storage problem restricting their system is flat out annoying. Why is everyone so obsessed with getting a HDD though? The Wii has an SD card slot. You can get 8gb SD cards. Problem solved.

manicfoot

The wii can only handle a 2gb card.

I stand corrected. Still, I think a few 2GB SD cards is a better solution than a bulky hard disk. It would make life a lot easier for Nintendo as well. All they have to do is update the firmware so Wii can boot Wiiware/VC from SD cards.

The thing is, they refuse to do that. They claim downloading and redownloading games is convenient. If they did, all our memory problems would be solved.

I agree with the sd card idea... only 2 GB but you can have more than one and it would be cheaper than a fat HD

about the 3rd parties... is not that nintendo "doesn't seem to care that much about their 3rd party games" on contrary, THE 3rd PARTY GAME DOES NT TAKE CARE ABOUT NINTENDO... the thing is that, if the 3rd parties open their minds and (like maya fei said) think outside the box, they could make awesome games for wii, but they prefer to stick with the old school of pushing buttons in complicated combination...

BTW, you can mock me if you want, but what is a DLC?

How about nintendo should start getting good games in general? I mean i love most of the first party games but i mean none of the third party games are pleasing me. The only third party game i do have (im pretty sure) is GH3 and Medal of honor 2.foola12

Nintendo is going to do what Nintendo wants. Plain and simple. They do not fall to fads, create something they don't find to be the best it could be, or follow what everyone else is doing. Right or wrong, they've been doing this for quite some time now. Nintendo has gambled A LOT in this generation and I can tell you with some sincerity that I've never seen a more popular system in my life.

"Hardcore" gamers want other systems. Fine, take them.

Everyone else wants a Wii.

As a personal thought, I feel like people give too much crap to Nintendo for not having this or that feature on their systems. As far as that is concerned, I can see where they are coming from, but I can see where Nintendo is coming from a little more clearly. They made a strikingly simplistic console that almost anybody can use and enjoy, different features aside. Now Nintendo is doing well. I'm shocked.

Look into a Wii and if it's not for you, don't buy it. If you want it then go for it, and good luck finding one.

starfox15

Thats nice but now its time to use that popularity and cheap developing it.

[QUOTE="foola12"]How about nintendo should start getting good games in general? I mean i love most of the first party games but i mean none of the third party games are pleasing me. The only third party game i do have (im pretty sure) is GH3 and Medal of honor 2.aransom

No. If they acted differently what if they did what gamers wanted what if the people they polled had a completely different bias then the rest of the world.

Sorry if the sentence is hard to read.:P

[QUOTE="aransom"][QUOTE="foola12"]How about nintendo should start getting good games in general? I mean i love most of the first party games but i mean none of the third party games are pleasing me. The only third party game i do have (im pretty sure) is GH3 and Medal of honor 2.KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="DJSAV_101"][QUOTE="manicfoot"]

You're right, Nintendo are stubborn. This can be good and bad. I mean, if they weren't so stubborn about sticking to their whole 'disruption' philosophy we wouldn't have Wii right now. Then again, their reluctance to sort out the major storage problem restricting their system is flat out annoying. Why is everyone so obsessed with getting a HDD though? The Wii has an SD card slot. You can get 8gb SD cards. Problem solved.

manicfoot

The wii can only handle a 2gb card.

I stand corrected. Still, I think a few 2GB SD cards is a better solution than a bulky hard disk. It would make life a lot easier for Nintendo as well. All they have to do is update the firmware so Wii can boot Wiiware/VC from SD cards.

you know there still are 4gb sd cards that are compatible with the wii. they are just hard to find.

[QUOTE="WhiteSoxBud"]

At least on Gamespot, Metroid Prime was the the highest rated game for Game Cube and to me it seems similar to Halo.

the_leet_kid

Metroid Prime seems similar to Halo.

WhiteSoxBud

Metroid Prime

similar

Halo.

WhiteSoxBud

*head asplodes*

lol i dont see this game anything like Halo. Halo is a more arcade-ish style of FPS while Metroid Prime is a FPA.