Nintendo's Possible Future Problem...

First of all, I want to say, that Nintendo has done great with the Wii right now, outselling both it's competitors handily. It seems that their "blue-ocean strategy" has worked very well so far. However, I think, thats not to say, that it is perfect. Many times, Nintendo has considered themseleves equal to Apple, and the Wii to the iPod line. Which, to an extent, may be true. But, the major difference that Nintendo and Apple has, is that, while Apple comes out with new verisons of the iPod just about every year, Nintendo is stuck with the same console for about 5-7 years. (This is why I think, the DS has been successful, it has changed in the last two years and is a hot item... Plus, rumors are spinning that, Nintendo has already remade the DS Lite) Now, the blue-ocean strategy works for only so long, because eventually, (if Nintendo's strategy works 100%), everyone would become a gamer. (With that being said, I know that 100% of people are NOT going to become gamers, but keep reading to see what I think Nintendo needs to fix.) So, now that everyone's a gamer, the simple, mini-game, casual-friendly games, will no longer satisfy those gamers that Nintendo converted over. People will be looking for something else, maybe next time around, (the NEXT-generation) they won't go for Nintendo's console, but instead, they may choose, a PS4, XBOX 720. This is why within a year or two, Nintendo may need to change their strategy to recruiting, "new-gamers" or "casual gamers" to, trying to KEEP them, by providing slightly more difficult games, or something. Basically, to sum this up, Nintendo needs to keep the ball rolling, by continuing to lead the industry in innovation. Wii Fit for example, is something that is new and something that no one has done before, however, just like WiiSports, after a while, it'll eventually get boring, and I think that Nintendo needs to make games that don't follow this pattern of, "fun for a while, then gets boring." Nintendo's popularity may be back, maybe even back to it's glory days, and this is a great thing, but if Nintendo wants to stay on top, they need to do the following 4 steps:

They need to continue attracting new gamers, both old and young, as well as those females.

They need to remove the image of Nintendo being for "kids" and "babies".

They need to provide innovation to set an example to other competitors.

And most of all, they NEED to keep the hard-core gamers happy, by NOT messing with the games we love. By messing with Zelda, Mario and Metroid and making them more appealing to the casual-gamers, they take away games that are meant for us. (The casual gamers have their games, they have WiiSports, WiiFit, WarioWare, and plenty of others.) Also, they need to implent better online options, and remove friend codes, its really a waste of time. Oh, and get with the program, we need microphones!

If Nintendo can follow these steps, I see no reason that Nintendo can't remain on top for many many years to come... However, if they fall into the Sony/EA mindset, which is, "we're on top, and nothing bad can happen to us" Nintendo is in for a shock...

o_o I read it.

Waste of my time honestly. This is like... SUCH a stretch to think about no on the 'inside'.
Links please for the apple comparison please.

Oh and are you suggesting there will be a new 'wii' every :/ 2 years or something?
o_o LOL

Oh noes teh danger!!1

read the 1st paragraph

its pretty intresting since its like its building like a trap for themselves its either they move on to hardcore gaming or stay the same path

Oh and are you suggesting there will be a new 'wii' every :/ 2 years or something?

wiretoss

no, no, I'm simply saying the reason the DS (and every other handheld Nintendo has made) is popular is because they continue to change it up every couple of years, just like Apple does :)

Links please for the apple comparison please.

wiretoss

here, take whichever you'd like:

This one is stupid but, it works

here are the real ones:

here's the first

this one is iffy

First of all, I want to say, that Nintendo has done great with the Wii right now, outselling both it's competitors handily. It seems that their "blue-ocean strategy" has worked very well so far. However, I think, thats not to say, that it is perfect. Many times, Nintendo has considered themseleves equal to Apple, and the Wii to the iPod line. Which, to an extent, may be true. But, the major difference that Nintendo and Apple has, is that, while Apple comes out with new verisons of the iPod just about every year, Nintendo is stuck with the same console for about 5-7 years. (This is why I think, the DS has been successful, it has changed in the last two years and is a hot item... Plus, rumors are spinning that, Nintendo has already remade the DS Lite) Now, the blue-ocean strategy works for only so long, because eventually, (if Nintendo's strategy works 100%), everyone would become a gamer. (With that being said, I know that 100% of people are NOT going to become gamers, but keep reading to see what I think Nintendo needs to fix.) So, now that everyone's a gamer, the simple, mini-game, casual-friendly games, will no longer satisfy those gamers that Nintendo converted over. People will be looking for something else, maybe next time around, (the NEXT-generation) they won't go for Nintendo's console, but instead, they may choose, a PS4, XBOX 720. This is why within a year or two, Nintendo may need to change their strategy to recruiting, "new-gamers" or "casual gamers" to, trying to KEEP them, by providing slightly more difficult games, or something. Basically, to sum this up, Nintendo needs to keep the ball rolling, by continuing to lead the industry in innovation. Wii Fit for example, is something that is new and something that no one has done before, however, just like WiiSports, after a while, it'll eventually get boring, and I think that Nintendo needs to make games that don't follow this pattern of, "fun for a while, then gets boring." Nintendo's popularity may be back, maybe even back to it's glory days, and this is a great thing, but if Nintendo wants to stay on top, they need to do the following 4 steps:

They need to continue attracting new gamers, both old and young, as well as those females.

They need to remove the image of Nintendo being for "kids" and "babies".

They need to provide innovation to set an example to other competitors.

And most of all, they NEED to keep the hard-core gamers happy, by NOT messing with the games we love. By messing with Zelda, Mario and Metroid and making them more appealing to the casual-gamers, they take away games that are meant for us. (The casual gamers have their games, they have WiiSports, WiiFit, WarioWare, and plenty of others.) Also, they need to implent better online options, and remove friend codes, its really a waste of time. Oh, and get with the program, we need microphones!

If Nintendo can follow these steps, I see no reason that Nintendo can't remain on top for many many years to come... However, if they fall into the Sony/EA mindset, which is, "we're on top, and nothing bad can happen to us" Nintendo is in for a shock...

remmbermytitans

I didn't bother to read all of this, but I skimmed through and understand your point. However, I think it may be a while before the new 'casual' gamer will 'graduate' to playing traditional complex games if ever. It's traditonal gaming that has kept casual gamers away from video games to begin with.

Yeah but no one I know buys a new iPod EVERY SINGLE YEAR... so why would you want a new game console every year? Just get a computer then... much easier to upgrade...

I'm not worried about Nintendo in the least, I think they understand the bussiness. No one is perfect though.

[QUOTE="remmbermytitans"]

First of all, I want to say, that Nintendo has done great with the Wii right now, outselling both it's competitors handily. It seems that their "blue-ocean strategy" has worked very well so far. However, I think, thats not to say, that it is perfect. Many times, Nintendo has considered themseleves equal to Apple, and the Wii to the iPod line. Which, to an extent, may be true. But, the major difference that Nintendo and Apple has, is that, while Apple comes out with new verisons of the iPod just about every year, Nintendo is stuck with the same console for about 5-7 years. (This is why I think, the DS has been successful, it has changed in the last two years and is a hot item... Plus, rumors are spinning that, Nintendo has already remade the DS Lite) Now, the blue-ocean strategy works for only so long, because eventually, (if Nintendo's strategy works 100%), everyone would become a gamer. (With that being said, I know that 100% of people are NOT going to become gamers, but keep reading to see what I think Nintendo needs to fix.) So, now that everyone's a gamer, the simple, mini-game, casual-friendly games, will no longer satisfy those gamers that Nintendo converted over. People will be looking for something else, maybe next time around, (the NEXT-generation) they won't go for Nintendo's console, but instead, they may choose, a PS4, XBOX 720. This is why within a year or two, Nintendo may need to change their strategy to recruiting, "new-gamers" or "casual gamers" to, trying to KEEP them, by providing slightly more difficult games, or something. Basically, to sum this up, Nintendo needs to keep the ball rolling, by continuing to lead the industry in innovation. Wii Fit for example, is something that is new and something that no one has done before, however, just like WiiSports, after a while, it'll eventually get boring, and I think that Nintendo needs to make games that don't follow this pattern of, "fun for a while, then gets boring." Nintendo's popularity may be back, maybe even back to it's glory days, and this is a great thing, but if Nintendo wants to stay on top, they need to do the following 4 steps:

They need to continue attracting new gamers, both old and young, as well as those females.

They need to remove the image of Nintendo being for "kids" and "babies".

They need to provide innovation to set an example to other competitors.

And most of all, they NEED to keep the hard-core gamers happy, by NOT messing with the games we love. By messing with Zelda, Mario and Metroid and making them more appealing to the casual-gamers, they take away games that are meant for us. (The casual gamers have their games, they have WiiSports, WiiFit, WarioWare, and plenty of others.) Also, they need to implent better online options, and remove friend codes, its really a waste of time. Oh, and get with the program, we need microphones!

If Nintendo can follow these steps, I see no reason that Nintendo can't remain on top for many many years to come... However, if they fall into the Sony/EA mindset, which is, "we're on top, and nothing bad can happen to us" Nintendo is in for a shock...

Tri-Enforcer

I didn't bother to read all of this, but I skimmed through and understand your point. However, I think it may be a while before the new 'casual' gamer will 'graduate' to playing traditional complex games if ever. It's traditonal gaming that has kept casual gamers away from video games to begin with.

true, but after a while, if they continue to play, they are no longer casual, they becoming "core" gamers... and yeah, i know this is worst-case scenario, but, it is still very possible, and I don't want my next mario or zelda becoming ridicously easy

Yeah but no one I know buys a new iPod EVERY SINGLE YEAR... so why would you want a new game console every year? Just get a computer then... much easier to upgrade...

I'm not worried about Nintendo in the least, I think they understand the bussiness. No one is perfect though.

l8bitz

you mised my point, i was saying, that the reason Apple's blue-ocean strategy works, is because they have new iPods just about every year, giving people more options, Nintendo on the other hand, only has one option, and is made new every 5-7 years, so their blue-ocean strategy, can work so much...

i do not think nintendo targets the same age group as the 360. yes its true they like to have adults and all ages play but that is not thier target group. i do not see any danger because once a group grows up or moves on (becomes hardcore if you will) a new young group will move in to take thier place.

just my opinion. ive been wrong before.

And most of all, they NEED to keep the hard-core gamers happy, by NOT messing with the games we love. By messing with Zelda, Mario and Metroid and making them more appealing to the casual-gamers, they take away games that are meant for us. (The casual gamers have their games, they have WiiSports, WiiFit, WarioWare, and plenty of others.)

remmbermytitans

Trauma Center is one of the most hardcore games out recently, have you played that beast?

Or are you perhaps referring to casualcore when you say hardcore? The Halo Madden GTA crap geared at casuals who love them some minimalist updates and vanilla shooting.

I also believe you mixed up nongamer and casual, they are NOT synonymous.

They need to continue attracting new gamers, both old and young, as well as those females.

Nintendo has done a good job here, you mentioned wii sports and this coming year wii play. They also have the brain age and warioware series. Nintendo is doing an excellent job of catering to this market beyond price tag, it doesn't seem to show signs of stopping.

They need to remove the image of Nintendo being for "kids" and "babies"

This one is tough to do especially when all their major franchise games have that stigma even if they don't warrant it. For Nintendo to do this they'd really have to up their marketing on adult driven games. Any smart Nintendo gamer knows there are several mature rated games that come out on any given Nintendo system, but this messege isn't sent to the general public. (Wii already has Manhunt 2, Resident Evil 4 and RE:UC if not more)

They need to provide innovation to set an example to other competitors.

I believe this has been happening as well. Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3 have done a great job of showing how to use the controls on the system. In fact, Medal of Honor Heroes 2 has apparently improved on that design and so they are showing each other. Games like Warioware and Wii Play are showing this innovation once more. Brawl is innovating as well in showing what can be put into a game and the online content that can go into one.

Unless Nintendo does a major shift in how they operate, they seem to be following all of this nicely.

First of all, I want to say, that Nintendo has done great with the Wii right now, outselling both it's competitors handily. It seems that their "blue-ocean strategy" has worked very well so far. However, I think, thats not to say, that it is perfect. Many times, Nintendo has considered themseleves equal to Apple, and the Wii to the iPod line. Which, to an extent, may be true. But, the major difference that Nintendo and Apple has, is that, while Apple comes out with new verisons of the iPod just about every year, Nintendo is stuck with the same console for about 5-7 years. (This is why I think, the DS has been successful, it has changed in the last two years and is a hot item... Plus, rumors are spinning that, Nintendo has already remade the DS Lite) Now, the blue-ocean strategy works for only so long, because eventually, (if Nintendo's strategy works 100%), everyone would become a gamer. (With that being said, I know that 100% of people are NOT going to become gamers, but keep reading to see what I think Nintendo needs to fix.) So, now that everyone's a gamer, the simple, mini-game, casual-friendly games, will no longer satisfy those gamers that Nintendo converted over. People will be looking for something else, maybe next time around, (the NEXT-generation) they won't go for Nintendo's console, but instead, they may choose, a PS4, XBOX 720. This is why within a year or two, Nintendo may need to change their strategy to recruiting, "new-gamers" or "casual gamers" to, trying to KEEP them, by providing slightly more difficult games, or something. Basically, to sum this up, Nintendo needs to keep the ball rolling, by continuing to lead the industry in innovation. Wii Fit for example, is something that is new and something that no one has done before, however, just like WiiSports, after a while, it'll eventually get boring, and I think that Nintendo needs to make games that don't follow this pattern of, "fun for a while, then gets boring." Nintendo's popularity may be back, maybe even back to it's glory days, and this is a great thing, but if Nintendo wants to stay on top, they need to do the following 4 steps:

They need to continue attracting new gamers, both old and young, as well as those females.

They need to remove the image of Nintendo being for "kids" and "babies".

They need to provide innovation to set an example to other competitors.

And most of all, they NEED to keep the hard-core gamers happy, by NOT messing with the games we love. By messing with Zelda, Mario and Metroid and making them more appealing to the casual-gamers, they take away games that are meant for us. (The casual gamers have their games, they have WiiSports, WiiFit, WarioWare, and plenty of others.) Also, they need to implent better online options, and remove friend codes, its really a waste of time. Oh, and get with the program, we need microphones!

If Nintendo can follow these steps, I see no reason that Nintendo can't remain on top for many many years to come... However, if they fall into the Sony/EA mindset, which is, "we're on top, and nothing bad can happen to us" Nintendo is in for a shock...

remmbermytitans

Besides the sheer length of this post, it was almost unreadable because of your improper use of commas.

First, neither Sony or Microsoft comes out with new versions of the Playstation and the XBox every year so there is no reason to nintendo do that

Second, who said that the wii games are only for kids? Are you forgeting Resident Evil, Metroid, Trauma Center?

I really think you should think before writing nosense.

My eyes!!! Paragraphs, for goodness sake man, paragraphs.

But anyway, I see your point. Won't there always be non-gamers to convert? Unless people are born gamers in the future and everyone plays games, I don't think Nintendo will have a hard time.

I do agree though that the Wii does seem very shallow to me, and very few games actually hold me in. I wish they would cater to their hardcore audience more.

But also, it is the 3rd party developer's job to make more hardcore games. The only Wii games I own are 1st party ones, because they are the most hardcore of what the Wii has to offer. It's up to the 3rd parties to make hardcore games as well.

First of all, I want to say, that Nintendo has done great with the Wii right now, outselling both it's competitors handily. It seems that their "blue-ocean strategy" has worked very well so far. However, I think, thats not to say, that it is perfect. Many times, Nintendo has considered themseleves equal to Apple, and the Wii to the iPod line. Which, to an extent, may be true. But, the major difference that Nintendo and Apple has, is that, while Apple comes out with new verisons of the iPod just about every year, Nintendo is stuck with the same console for about 5-7 years. (This is why I think, the DS has been successful, it has changed in the last two years and is a hot item... Plus, rumors are spinning that, Nintendo has already remade the DS Lite) Now, the blue-ocean strategy works for only so long, because eventually, (if Nintendo's strategy works 100%), everyone would become a gamer. (With that being said, I know that 100% of people are NOT going to become gamers, but keep reading to see what I think Nintendo needs to fix.) So, now that everyone's a gamer, the simple, mini-game, casual-friendly games, will no longer satisfy those gamers that Nintendo converted over. People will be looking for something else, maybe next time around, (the NEXT-generation) they won't go for Nintendo's console, but instead, they may choose, a PS4, XBOX 720. This is why within a year or two, Nintendo may need to change their strategy to recruiting, "new-gamers" or "casual gamers" to, trying to KEEP them, by providing slightly more difficult games, or something. Basically, to sum this up, Nintendo needs to keep the ball rolling, by continuing to lead the industry in innovation. Wii Fit for example, is something that is new and something that no one has done before, however, just like WiiSports, after a while, it'll eventually get boring, and I think that Nintendo needs to make games that don't follow this pattern of, "fun for a while, then gets boring." Nintendo's popularity may be back, maybe even back to it's glory days, and this is a great thing, but if Nintendo wants to stay on top, they need to do the following 4 steps:

They need to continue attracting new gamers, both old and young, as well as those females.

They need to remove the image of Nintendo being for "kids" and "babies".

They need to provide innovation to set an example to other competitors.

And most of all, they NEED to keep the hard-core gamers happy, by NOT messing with the games we love. By messing with Zelda, Mario and Metroid and making them more appealing to the casual-gamers, they take away games that are meant for us. (The casual gamers have their games, they have WiiSports, WiiFit, WarioWare, and plenty of others.) Also, they need to implent better online options, and remove friend codes, its really a waste of time. Oh, and get with the program, we need microphones!

If Nintendo can follow these steps, I see no reason that Nintendo can't remain on top for many many years to come... However, if they fall into the Sony/EA mindset, which is, "we're on top, and nothing bad can happen to us" Nintendo is in for a shock...

remmbermytitans

No i think you are wrong, the people who buy the Wii purely for the party games and play ds for soduku (or whatever) aren't going to suddenly start appearing in FPS clans, party games =/= gateway to hardcore games.

I don't think Nintendo has too much of a problem with casual gamers, they are fickle but they are unlikely to trade to a xbox or ps, there is more chance they wont buy a console. Its the hardcore gamer Nintendo has to keep happy, and they don't seem to be doing to bad at that either so far.

Hot poop, can people please stop quoting the guy's entire post and then complaing about how big it was. Now, regarding the actual points being made; any business is eventually going to have the problem of catering to a saturated market if they were so popular that everybody bought their product, but

A) As you said,that would never happen and

B) Come on, man, have nintendo let you down before? As well as having some of the best games designing minds in the world Nintendo also have some of the finest business savvy, and they're not the sort to let the buyers slip away. More third party support will cater for the hardcore while Nintendo increase their home base with more and more casual gamers being welcomed to the fold.

The comparisons with Ipod etc are pretty unfounded in one sense becausethey imply that everyone with an Ipod buys the new version every time one comes out, which just isn't true. However Apple aren't selling a product; they're selling an image, and in the same way Nintendo are no longer just a greasy little games company working away in the corner of a (comparitively) niche market, they're selling FUN in a small white box.

[QUOTE="wiretoss"]

Oh and are you suggesting there will be a new 'wii' every :/ 2 years or something?

remmbermytitans

no, no, I'm simply saying the reason the DS (and every other handheld Nintendo has made) is popular is because they continue to change it up every couple of years, just like Apple does :)

You never know. there might be a redesign for the Wii in a year or two. Maybe, finally, new colors.

This is just more of the endless bigotry I see weekly on here

It's crazy how one console has done so much to divide some people into camps.

An interesting topic you have going here. I have to say that some of your points are indeed valid and are things that Nintendo should keep its eyes on. However, I can't say that Nintendo's strategy is really that much risker than anyone else's at the moment in the gaming industry. While it is true that Nintendo owes a lot of it success on the "casual and non-gamer" that it has decided to focus a great deal of attention to, that doesn't completelyexplain why the systems continue to sell so great. What Nintendo has also done is try to encourage all gamers, regardless of experience, to join in. That's the reason why we continue to see the big names. That's why things like the Vitrual Console were introduced. And despite what some may say about Nintendo's online strategy, Nintendo has become more serious about the possiblities of online gaming in recent years.

To put a spin on your topic title, I thinkthe entire video game industry is walking down a dangerous path right now. With every passing gaming generation, it only seems to become harder to be a gamer. Because most consoles tend to put so much emphisis on trying to take over the living room, instead of just becoming a part of it, they're only become harder to afford for the average consumer. That's not to mention the fact that it's harder to succeed in this industry than it was years ago because the cost of developing games have only gone higher. Due to this, game publishers are often afraid to take risks. And while this may not be too big of a deal now, it could come back to haunt the industry, unless someone decides to do something different. At this moment, that someone has been Nintendo. Nintendo's entire strategy seems to focus more on simplicity for consumers and developers. It's not the perfect solution, but nothing is.

As for Nintendo's franchises, I don't expect them to change much. So far, the Wii has only managed to enhance the experience for the Mario, Metroid, and Zelda fans out there while keeping the gameplay mechanics that we know and love intact. If anything, I'm paying a bit more attention to what Nintendo can do in terms of creating new properties. I think that's what will help push the Wii and DS for years to come. I expect Nintendo to keep trying to push the bar, but at the same time, not overdo things to the point where long time fans are lost.

You made a very interesting point. But there is always a chance that those casual gamers will keep on being casual.

I actually hate how Apple comes out with new iPods so often, because it makes me not want to buy one if I know a better one will come out later at the same price :(

I'd rather they'd come out with bigger upgrades at longer intervals of time.

i bet Apple is going to make a console O_o i think the nexgen will be alot better for nintendo. they will see from there mistakes and fix them since they have so much money...(the wii and DS are top-sellers). but i think the DS or possibly DS2 will have some competition between Microsoft because i've heard rumors(most likely true) that Microsoft is making a handheld system. and it seems practical since Microsoft is making so much money as well with the xbox 360 like xbox live, marketplace, arcade games etc. they could probably make money with a handheld system.

B) Come on, man, have nintendo let you down before?

peterwantspie

gamecube says hi

there wii music if nintendo put nintendogs on wii it would bring females.

um find one person who didnt like the mario, zelda,and metroid. just because they appealed tocasual doesnt mean the hardcore gamers wont like it

I dont see how TP and MP3 are any more casual than OoT and Super Metroid.

there wii music if nintendo put nintendogs on wii it would bring females.

um find one person who didnt like the mario, zelda,and metroid. just because they appealed tocasual doesnt mean the hardcore gamers wont like it

musicman748

there wii music if nintendo put nintendogs on wii it would bring females.

um find one person who didnt like the mario, zelda,and metroid. just because they appealed tocasual doesnt mean the hardcore gamers wont like it

musicman748

whoa whoa, i never said mario, zelda, and metroid weren't great games, I'm just saying that the less popular games, have become too gimmicky, and I'm just worried, that NEXT time around, Nintendo may make them more "user-friendly" taking away the games that were meant for the hardcore gamers :)

[QUOTE="Tri-Enforcer"][QUOTE="remmbermytitans"]

First of all, I want to say, that Nintendo has done great with the Wii right now, outselling both it's competitors handily. It seems that their "blue-ocean strategy" has worked very well so far. However, I think, thats not to say, that it is perfect. Many times, Nintendo has considered themseleves equal to Apple, and the Wii to the iPod line. Which, to an extent, may be true. But, the major difference that Nintendo and Apple has, is that, while Apple comes out with new verisons of the iPod just about every year, Nintendo is stuck with the same console for about 5-7 years. (This is why I think, the DS has been successful, it has changed in the last two years and is a hot item... Plus, rumors are spinning that, Nintendo has already remade the DS Lite) Now, the blue-ocean strategy works for only so long, because eventually, (if Nintendo's strategy works 100%), everyone would become a gamer. (With that being said, I know that 100% of people are NOT going to become gamers, but keep reading to see what I think Nintendo needs to fix.) So, now that everyone's a gamer, the simple, mini-game, casual-friendly games, will no longer satisfy those gamers that Nintendo converted over. People will be looking for something else, maybe next time around, (the NEXT-generation) they won't go for Nintendo's console, but instead, they may choose, a PS4, XBOX 720. This is why within a year or two, Nintendo may need to change their strategy to recruiting, "new-gamers" or "casual gamers" to, trying to KEEP them, by providing slightly more difficult games, or something. Basically, to sum this up, Nintendo needs to keep the ball rolling, by continuing to lead the industry in innovation. Wii Fit for example, is something that is new and something that no one has done before, however, just like WiiSports, after a while, it'll eventually get boring, and I think that Nintendo needs to make games that don't follow this pattern of, "fun for a while, then gets boring." Nintendo's popularity may be back, maybe even back to it's glory days, and this is a great thing, but if Nintendo wants to stay on top, they need to do the following 4 steps:

They need to continue attracting new gamers, both old and young, as well as those females.

They need to remove the image of Nintendo being for "kids" and "babies".

They need to provide innovation to set an example to other competitors.

And most of all, they NEED to keep the hard-core gamers happy, by NOT messing with the games we love. By messing with Zelda, Mario and Metroid and making them more appealing to the casual-gamers, they take away games that are meant for us. (The casual gamers have their games, they have WiiSports, WiiFit, WarioWare, and plenty of others.) Also, they need to implent better online options, and remove friend codes, its really a waste of time. Oh, and get with the program, we need microphones!

If Nintendo can follow these steps, I see no reason that Nintendo can't remain on top for many many years to come... However, if they fall into the Sony/EA mindset, which is, "we're on top, and nothing bad can happen to us" Nintendo is in for a shock...

remmbermytitans

I didn't bother to read all of this, but I skimmed through and understand your point. However, I think it may be a while before the new 'casual' gamer will 'graduate' to playing traditional complex games if ever. It's traditonal gaming that has kept casual gamers away from video games to begin with.

true, but after a while, if they continue to play, they are no longer casual, they becoming "core" gamers... and yeah, i know this is worst-case scenario, but, it is still very possible, and I don't want my next mario or zelda becoming ridicously easy

Thats not true. non gamers dont sismply "convert" to the lifestyles of a core gamer.

Besides that the only thing I agree with concerning the TS thoughts are that Nintendo does not need to make games like Zelda, Mario and metroid easier. Non gamers are not even going to notice these games. They should be pushing these games to rival more with games on Xbox and Playstation. They should be pushing visuals, controls and story. They should probabaly find a way to make bosses be easier or hard depending on what your preference is but this is tricky. nintendo should have hardcore games and games for everyone. They should not try and mold the two together. Games like Zelda and Metroid should be taking darker more serious paths.