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nintendos strategy makes no sense but its working. They are trying to sell games to people who dont play games . Thats like playtex trying to sell tampons to men . How the hell is this strategey working.
What games are worth getting for my wii now ( plz dont say paper mario or any other nintendo titles)
nintendos strategy makes no sense but its working. They are trying to sell games to people who dont play games . Thats like playtex trying to sell tampons to men . How the hell is this strategey working.
What games are worth getting for my wii now ( plz dont say paper mario or any other nintendo titles)
mcxps3
The reason you can't figure out why their strategi is working, is becuase you are WRONG about what you think their strategy is. They are not actively out seeking new markets the way people are saying.  What they are doing is distancing them from the pack mentality. Think of it like the old 2000 election. You had Gore and Lieberman running both from the left. What ends up happening is that leftwing voters end up splitting a majority vote between two candidates...which means they both lose compared to Bush who was the only righty. This happens with amost any multi-choice vote.
Now you have MS and Sony offering two different machines but they now share 90% of the titles. They also both play the same way. They are mostly the same so they are now splitting the market. By removing themselves from this race of bigger, stronger, more powerful...Nintendo captures a LARGER market because they offer something new and different to EVERYONE. It isn't just new gamers or casuals, but also people like myself that have been console gamers since they were first invented but are growing tired of playing the same old games with shinier packaging.
Second, they have a price advantage that is impossible for any customer to ignore. While the PS3 or 360 are a big ticket item, buying the Wii is essentially risk free because it is so cheap compared to the others. It's not like the GC last gen which was pretty close in price to the competition and therefore people were more willing to pay a tad extra for way more games. Now, you can buy the Wii and two games and it is still cheaper than the 360 (full version) before tax with zero games.
Finally, Nintendo is the only console with a sustainable business plan. They make money off every console, and developers don't have to risk millions of dollars making a game that may not sell. It is cheaper for everyone and yet there is much more guarantee to make money. This means Nitendo can spend more on marketing, developers have incentives to make games, etx.
Frankly, what is surprising to me is NOT that NIntendo's business plan is working, but that MS and Sony haven't realized that their business plans are destined for failure.
@Rosencrantz - VERY well put, and you are absolutely right. At first, I think that MS and Sony, along with a whole host of cynics, thought that the Wii would be a flop, because everyone thought that the Gamecube was a flop (It wasn't a FLOP. It simply sold less than it's competators)
Unfortunately, MS and Sony forgot that Nintendo had a flawless track record before the GC with NES, SNES, and the N64, three systems all in a row that dominated the market, not to mention its DOMINATION of the handheld market.
What games are worth getting for my wii now ( plz dont say paper mario or any other nintendo titles)
think diet coke to coke zero. see the difference.nintendos strategy makes no sense but its working. They are trying to sell games to people who dont play games . Thats like playtex trying to sell tampons to men . How the hell is this strategey working.
What games are worth getting for my wii now ( plz dont say paper mario or any other nintendo titles)
mcxps3
[QUOTE="mcxps3"]nintendos strategy makes no sense but its working. They are trying to sell games to people who dont play games . Thats like playtex trying to sell tampons to men . How the hell is this strategey working.
What games are worth getting for my wii now ( plz dont say paper mario or any other nintendo titles)
Rosencrantz
The reason you can't figure out why their strategi is working, is becuase you are WRONG about what you think their strategy is. They are not actively out seeking new markets the way people are saying.  What they are doing is distancing them from the pack mentality. Think of it like the old 2000 election. You had Gore and Lieberman running both from the left. What ends up happening is that leftwing voters end up splitting a majority vote between two candidates...which means they both lose compared to Bush who was the only righty. This happens with amost any multi-choice vote.
Now you have MS and Sony offering two different machines but they now share 90% of the titles. They also both play the same way. They are mostly the same so they are now splitting the market. By removing themselves from this race of bigger, stronger, more powerful...Nintendo captures a LARGER market because they offer something new and different to EVERYONE. It isn't just new gamers or casuals, but also people like myself that have been console gamers since they were first invented but are growing tired of playing the same old games with shinier packaging.
Second, they have a price advantage that is impossible for any customer to ignore. While the PS3 or 360 are a big ticket item, buying the Wii is essentially risk free because it is so cheap compared to the others. It's not like the GC last gen which was pretty close in price to the competition and therefore people were more willing to pay a tad extra for way more games. Now, you can buy the Wii and two games and it is still cheaper than the 360 (full version) before tax with zero games.
Finally, Nintendo is the only console with a sustainable business plan. They make money off every console, and developers don't have to risk millions of dollars making a game that may not sell. It is cheaper for everyone and yet there is much more guarantee to make money. This means Nitendo can spend more on marketing, developers have incentives to make games, etx.
Frankly, what is surprising to me is NOT that NIntendo's business plan is working, but that MS and Sony haven't realized that their business plans are destined for failure.
i agree with that all, ecept for that sony and ms are gonna fail.that's great, keep it upnintendos strategy makes no sense but its working. They are trying to sell games to people who dont play games . Thats like playtex trying to sell tampons to men . How the hell is this strategey working.
What games are worth getting for my wii now ( plz dont say paper mario or any other nintendo titles)
mcxps3
YOU make no sensenintendos strategy makes no sense but its working. They are trying to sell games to people who dont play games . Thats like playtex trying to sell tampons to men . How the hell is this strategey working.
What games are worth getting for my wii now ( plz dont say paper mario or any other nintendo titles)
mcxps3
[QUOTE="mcxps3"]nintendos strategy makes no sense but its working. They are trying to sell games to people who dont play games . Thats like playtex trying to sell tampons to men . How the hell is this strategey working.
What games are worth getting for my wii now ( plz dont say paper mario or any other nintendo titles)
Rosencrantz
The reason you can't figure out why their strategi is working, is becuase you are WRONG about what you think their strategy is. They are not actively out seeking new markets the way people are saying.  What they are doing is distancing them from the pack mentality. Think of it like the old 2000 election. You had Gore and Lieberman running both from the left. What ends up happening is that leftwing voters end up splitting a majority vote between two candidates...which means they both lose compared to Bush who was the only righty. This happens with amost any multi-choice vote.
Now you have MS and Sony offering two different machines but they now share 90% of the titles. They also both play the same way. They are mostly the same so they are now splitting the market. By removing themselves from this race of bigger, stronger, more powerful...Nintendo captures a LARGER market because they offer something new and different to EVERYONE. It isn't just new gamers or casuals, but also people like myself that have been console gamers since they were first invented but are growing tired of playing the same old games with shinier packaging.
Second, they have a price advantage that is impossible for any customer to ignore. While the PS3 or 360 are a big ticket item, buying the Wii is essentially risk free because it is so cheap compared to the others. It's not like the GC last gen which was pretty close in price to the competition and therefore people were more willing to pay a tad extra for way more games. Now, you can buy the Wii and two games and it is still cheaper than the 360 (full version) before tax with zero games.
Finally, Nintendo is the only console with a sustainable business plan. They make money off every console, and developers don't have to risk millions of dollars making a game that may not sell. It is cheaper for everyone and yet there is much more guarantee to make money. This means Nitendo can spend more on marketing, developers have incentives to make games, etx.
Frankly, what is surprising to me is NOT that NIntendo's business plan is working, but that MS and Sony haven't realized that their business plans are destined for failure.
Wow I never thought of it like that. Very nice.i agree with that all, ecept for that sony and ms are gonna fail.soulsdepartingIf they continue the way they are, the next generation will be their last because technology won't allow anymore advances for graphics. That would drastically increase prices as well (as sen with the PS3). After that they will have to innovate. Nintendo thought ahead and has made their wallets fat with cash as opposed to Sony who loses money on every PS3 sold. Microsoft has also lost money on the Xbox brand until only a few months ago when they turned their first profit.
um ur wrong the only console that nintendo had that dominated the market was the NEs cuz it had no competition. The genesis beaat the snes, the ps1 beat the n64, and of course ps2 destroyed the gamecube.@Rosencrantz - VERY well put, and you are absolutely right. At first, I think that MS and Sony, along with a whole host of cynics, thought that the Wii would be a flop, because everyone thought that the Gamecube was a flop (It wasn't a FLOP. It simply sold less than it's competators)
Unfortunately, MS and Sony forgot that Nintendo had a flawless track record before the GC with NES, SNES, and the N64, three systems all in a row that dominated the market, not to mention its DOMINATION of the handheld market.
Maelkav
[QUOTE="Maelkav"]@Rosencrantz - VERY well put, and you are absolutely right. At first, I think that MS and Sony, along with a whole host of cynics, thought that the Wii would be a flop, because everyone thought that the Gamecube was a flop (It wasn't a FLOP. It simply sold less than it's competators)
Unfortunately, MS and Sony forgot that Nintendo had a flawless track record before the GC with NES, SNES, and the N64, three systems all in a row that dominated the market, not to mention its DOMINATION of the handheld market.
mcxps3
Wow. Dead wrong. NES had LOTS of competition from LOTS of consoles. Genesis was OWNED by the SNES (which came out after, by the way) and N64 cut a HUGE chunk out of the market before PSOne came along. My guess is that your information is based on what systems your friends had on your street when you were growing up. I never mentioned the Gamecube, f.y.i.
[QUOTE="mcxps3"][QUOTE="Maelkav"]@Rosencrantz - VERY well put, and you are absolutely right. At first, I think that MS and Sony, along with a whole host of cynics, thought that the Wii would be a flop, because everyone thought that the Gamecube was a flop (It wasn't a FLOP. It simply sold less than it's competators)
Unfortunately, MS and Sony forgot that Nintendo had a flawless track record before the GC with NES, SNES, and the N64, three systems all in a row that dominated the market, not to mention its DOMINATION of the handheld market.
Maelkav
Wow. Dead wrong. NES had LOTS of competition from LOTS of consoles. Genesis was OWNED by the SNES (which came out after, by the way) and N64 cut a HUGE chunk out of the market before PSOne came along. My guess is that your information is based on what systems your friends had on your street when you were growing up. I never mentioned the Gamecube, f.y.i.
PSOne had more marketshare than the N64, although only by a small margin.[QUOTE="Maelkav"]@Rosencrantz - VERY well put, and you are absolutely right. At first, I think that MS and Sony, along with a whole host of cynics, thought that the Wii would be a flop, because everyone thought that the Gamecube was a flop (It wasn't a FLOP. It simply sold less than it's competators)
Unfortunately, MS and Sony forgot that Nintendo had a flawless track record before the GC with NES, SNES, and the N64, three systems all in a row that dominated the market, not to mention its DOMINATION of the handheld market.
mcxps3
wtf are you talking about. snes beat genisis, n64 owned the ps1 and yeah.. the ps2 probably did beat the gamecube but w/e - 3 to 1
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[QUOTE="Maelkav"]um ur wrong the only console that nintendo had that dominated the market was the NEs cuz it had no competition. The genesis beaat the snes, the ps1 beat the n64, and of course ps2 destroyed the gamecube. Whoa there chief. While its true the N64 didn't do as well against the Playstation, there aren't many people who would say the Genesis beat the SNES. The Genesis was a fine console. But even today, many people would say the SNES was their favorite system of all time.@Rosencrantz - VERY well put, and you are absolutely right. At first, I think that MS and Sony, along with a whole host of cynics, thought that the Wii would be a flop, because everyone thought that the Gamecube was a flop (It wasn't a FLOP. It simply sold less than it's competators)
Unfortunately, MS and Sony forgot that Nintendo had a flawless track record before the GC with NES, SNES, and the N64, three systems all in a row that dominated the market, not to mention its DOMINATION of the handheld market.
mcxps3
Think of it like the old 2000 election. You had Gore and Lieberman running both from the left. What ends up happening is that leftwing voters end up splitting a majority vote between two candidates...which means they both lose compared to Bush who was the only righty. This happens with amost any multi-choice vote.
Rosencrantz
Are you an American? Gore and Lieberman were on the same team. Votes weren't split between them, no one could vote for Joe Lieberman in the general election, he was running for Vice President. Just like no one could vote for Dick Cheney because he was W's runningmate. Gore actually got more votes than Bush but lost because of a little thing in the US constitution called the Electoral College.
What games are worth getting for my wii now ( plz dont say paper mario or any other nintendo titles)
rollin3102
i havent played the Godfather but other than that i think none, there is no game out right now with a lasting impression really, unless you are a diehard zelda fan, be patient.
Nintendo=Einstein
Microsoft= semi-genious
Sony= Retarted, 6 year old
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nintendos strategy makes no sense but its working. They are trying to sell games to people who dont play games . Thats like playtex trying to sell tampons to men . How the hell is this strategey working.
mcxps3
Playtex tries to sell tampons to women who don't buy Plaxtex tampons. Nintendo tries to sell videogames to people who don't play Nintendo videogames. What's wrong with that strategy?
[QUOTE="rollin3102"]What games are worth getting for my wii now ( plz dont say paper mario or any other nintendo titles)
imdawiinner
i havent played the Godfather but other than that i think none, there is no game out right now with a lasting impression really, unless you are a diehard zelda fan, be patient.
SSX BLUR, SONIC, Madden, Rayman, all these games are worth getting.[QUOTE="Maelkav"]@Rosencrantz - VERY well put, and you are absolutely right. At first, I think that MS and Sony, along with a whole host of cynics, thought that the Wii would be a flop, because everyone thought that the Gamecube was a flop (It wasn't a FLOP. It simply sold less than it's competators)
Unfortunately, MS and Sony forgot that Nintendo had a flawless track record before the GC with NES, SNES, and the N64, three systems all in a row that dominated the market, not to mention its DOMINATION of the handheld market.
mcxps3
Unless, you're European because the Sega Genesis never owned the SNES worldwide. In North America, the SNES beat it and in Japan, the Super Famicom and the PC Engine destroyed the Mega Drive.
[QUOTE="imdawiinner"][QUOTE="rollin3102"]What games are worth getting for my wii now ( plz dont say paper mario or any other nintendo titles)
big_mak123
i havent played the Godfather but other than that i think none, there is no game out right now with a lasting impression really, unless you are a diehard zelda fan, be patient.
SSX BLUR, SONIC, Madden, Rayman, all these games are worth getting. um i have madden and i hte it ill get 08 on the ps3 for sure. im not gettin ssx rayman or sonic either, ineed an rpg or something to hold my time.[QUOTE="mcxps3"][QUOTE="Maelkav"]@Rosencrantz - VERY well put, and you are absolutely right. At first, I think that MS and Sony, along with a whole host of cynics, thought that the Wii would be a flop, because everyone thought that the Gamecube was a flop (It wasn't a FLOP. It simply sold less than it's competators)
Unfortunately, MS and Sony forgot that Nintendo had a flawless track record before the GC with NES, SNES, and the N64, three systems all in a row that dominated the market, not to mention its DOMINATION of the handheld market.
Maelkav
Wow. Dead wrong. NES had LOTS of competition from LOTS of consoles. Genesis was OWNED by the SNES (which came out after, by the way) and N64 cut a HUGE chunk out of the market before PSOne came along. My guess is that your information is based on what systems your friends had on your street when you were growing up. I never mentioned the Gamecube, f.y.i.
um by competition i meant serious kind. not all those frivolous systems. And to all you nintendo fan boys out there the NES IS THE ONLY HOME CONSOLE NINTENDO MADE THAT DOMINATED I DONT CARE WHICH ONE U THOUGHT WAS MORE FUN WHICH DID BETTER IN JAPAN AND EUROPE THE FACT IS THE GENESIS BEAT THE SNES, THE PS1 BEAT THE64 and the ps2 destroyed the cube. i think the wii has the best chance of winning the gen and thats whyu i got one but personally im rooting for SONY!!!!!!!!!! Because i want games made for me not my grandma. i like that nintendo is experimenting and winnig but i really dont want the ds and the wii to be the new standard of gaming. I hope my mind changes though and i will remai supportive of nintendo. ( i know i just contradicted myelf and make no sense).[QUOTE="Maelkav"][QUOTE="mcxps3"][QUOTE="Maelkav"]@Rosencrantz - VERY well put, and you are absolutely right. At first, I think that MS and Sony, along with a whole host of cynics, thought that the Wii would be a flop, because everyone thought that the Gamecube was a flop (It wasn't a FLOP. It simply sold less than it's competators)
Unfortunately, MS and Sony forgot that Nintendo had a flawless track record before the GC with NES, SNES, and the N64, three systems all in a row that dominated the market, not to mention its DOMINATION of the handheld market.
mcxps3
Wow. Dead wrong. NES had LOTS of competition from LOTS of consoles. Genesis was OWNED by the SNES (which came out after, by the way) and N64 cut a HUGE chunk out of the market before PSOne came along. My guess is that your information is based on what systems your friends had on your street when you were growing up. I never mentioned the Gamecube, f.y.i.
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Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm sorry, but....wow. My head hurts. I don't even know how to argue with something that makes so little sense.
[QUOTE="big_mak123"][QUOTE="imdawiinner"][QUOTE="rollin3102"]What games are worth getting for my wii now ( plz dont say paper mario or any other nintendo titles)
mcxps3
i havent played the Godfather but other than that i think none, there is no game out right now with a lasting impression really, unless you are a diehard zelda fan, be patient.
SSX BLUR, SONIC, Madden, Rayman, all these games are worth getting. um i have madden and i hte it ill get 08 on the ps3 for sure. im not gettin ssx rayman or sonic either, ineed an rpg or something to hold my time. Clearly then, Super Paper Mario is your next purchase. But to the TC: Madden 07, SSX Blur, Rayman, Trauma Center: SO (Gem of the Wii launch) Elebits (Maybe) PoP: Rival Swords (If you didn't play the Two Thrones)I DONT CARE WHICH ONE U THOUGHT WAS MORE FUN WHICH DID BETTER IN JAPAN AND EUROPE mcxps3
You don't have to care which console did better in Japan or Europe but Japan and Europe make up more than half of the videogame market, so it's utterly relevant to bring it up in a discussion of which console beat which.
[QUOTE="mcxps3"][QUOTE="Maelkav"][QUOTE="mcxps3"][QUOTE="Maelkav"]@Rosencrantz - VERY well put, and you are absolutely right. At first, I think that MS and Sony, along with a whole host of cynics, thought that the Wii would be a flop, because everyone thought that the Gamecube was a flop (It wasn't a FLOP. It simply sold less than it's competators)
Unfortunately, MS and Sony forgot that Nintendo had a flawless track record before the GC with NES, SNES, and the N64, three systems all in a row that dominated the market, not to mention its DOMINATION of the handheld market.
Maelkav
Wow. Dead wrong. NES had LOTS of competition from LOTS of consoles. Genesis was OWNED by the SNES (which came out after, by the way) and N64 cut a HUGE chunk out of the market before PSOne came along. My guess is that your information is based on what systems your friends had on your street when you were growing up. I never mentioned the Gamecube, f.y.i.
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Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm sorry, but....wow. My head hurts. I don't even know how to argue with something that makes so little sense.
what dont u get it makes perfect sense.[QUOTE="mcxps3"][QUOTE="Maelkav"][QUOTE="mcxps3"][QUOTE="Maelkav"]@Rosencrantz - VERY well put, and you are absolutely right. At first, I think that MS and Sony, along with a whole host of cynics, thought that the Wii would be a flop, because everyone thought that the Gamecube was a flop (It wasn't a FLOP. It simply sold less than it's competators)
Unfortunately, MS and Sony forgot that Nintendo had a flawless track record before the GC with NES, SNES, and the N64, three systems all in a row that dominated the market, not to mention its DOMINATION of the handheld market.
Maelkav
Wow. Dead wrong. NES had LOTS of competition from LOTS of consoles. Genesis was OWNED by the SNES (which came out after, by the way) and N64 cut a HUGE chunk out of the market before PSOne came along. My guess is that your information is based on what systems your friends had on your street when you were growing up. I never mentioned the Gamecube, f.y.i.
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Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm sorry, but....wow. My head hurts. I don't even know how to argue with something that makes so little sense.
what dont u get it makes perfect sense.Please Log In to post.
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