Oh dear. Friend Codes CONFIRMED!

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#1 darth-pyschosis
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http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=147204

"quick match": pairs you up with an opponent instantly
- "custom match": finds an opponent based off conditions that you've set
- "friend match": select opponents from friend list
- add players to your friend list by exchanging friend codes
- local multiplayer play

The details on Super Street Fighter's multiplayer

It isn't clear if its a code per game, or per system, but it isn't looking too bright

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#2 King_Dodongo
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OMG, how about waiting until day 19th to know everything, and then freak out if it's bad? ugh people.
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#3 alexh_99
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I don't mind that much, as long as i can still play random people.

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#4 iano-87
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OMG, how about waiting until day 19th to know everything, and then freak out if it's bad? ugh people. King_Dodongo

I don't think he was freaking out in all honesty. Your comment has more elements of 'freaking out' than his to be fair.

I really hope Nintendo sort out their friend system for the 3ds because, I will feel let down if they don't.

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#5 nintendofreak_2
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As long as it's for the system I don't care. Per game again would be incredibly annoying.

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#6 lazyathew
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If it's just a code per system it won't be too bad, but it better not be per game...

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#7 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="King_Dodongo"]OMG, how about waiting until day 19th to know everything, and then freak out if it's bad? ugh people. iano-87

I don't think he was freaking out in all honesty. Your comment has more elements of 'freaking out' than his to be fair.

I really hope Nintendo sort out their friend system for the 3ds because, I will feel let down if they don't.

Thanks.

I think it "doesn't look too bright" in the case of not having FCs, however if it is one per system that will essentially be a user name with digits instead of letters, and it won't be that bad.

The only thing that concerns me about FCs on 3DS is, if they were dead and buried, Nintendo would've said something about it in Japan this week

They didn't. And now we know FCs exist, but to what extent we don't know. So there is still hope.

I can't say I played my DS a whole lot online, but I certainly would play it more often if it didn't require one code per game. So here's to hoping Nintendo heard our complaints and has one code per system

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#8 King_Dodongo
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[QUOTE="iano-87"]

[QUOTE="King_Dodongo"]OMG, how about waiting until day 19th to know everything, and then freak out if it's bad? ugh people. darth-pyschosis

I don't think he was freaking out in all honesty. Your comment has more elements of 'freaking out' than his to be fair.

I really hope Nintendo sort out their friend system for the 3ds because, I will feel let down if they don't.

Thanks.

I think it "doesn't look too bright" in the case of not having FCs, however if it is one per system that will essentially be a user name with digits instead of letters, and it won't be that bad.

The only thing that concerns me about FCs on 3DS is, if they were dead and buried, Nintendo would've said something about it in Japan this week

They didn't. And now we know FCs exist, but to what extent we don't know. So there is still hope.

I can't say I played my DS a whole lot online, but I certainly would play it more often if it didn't require one code per game. So here's to hoping Nintendo heard our complaints and has one code per system

Yup, sorry darth, I just got out from SW and I thought I was there too when posting that.
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#9 Cruse34
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If there is one FC per system I'm fine with it because most if not none of my friends will have a 3DS anytime near launch

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#10 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

[QUOTE="iano-87"]

I don't think he was freaking out in all honesty. Your comment has more elements of 'freaking out' than his to be fair.

I really hope Nintendo sort out their friend system for the 3ds because, I will feel let down if they don't.

King_Dodongo

Thanks.

I think it "doesn't look too bright" in the case of not having FCs, however if it is one per system that will essentially be a user name with digits instead of letters, and it won't be that bad.

The only thing that concerns me about FCs on 3DS is, if they were dead and buried, Nintendo would've said something about it in Japan this week

They didn't. And now we know FCs exist, but to what extent we don't know. So there is still hope.

I can't say I played my DS a whole lot online, but I certainly would play it more often if it didn't require one code per game. So here's to hoping Nintendo heard our complaints and has one code per system

Yup, sorry darth, I just got out from SW and I thought I was there too when posting that.

Its ok, its new Nintendo console time! Things can get heated, its understandable.

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#11 MrDziekuje
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If it's a friend code per system, that's honestly not too different from a Gamertag. not a huge deal.

Let's hope this is the case though.

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#12 MonkeySpot
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I never play online with my DS anymore due to hacks spoiling the fun most of the time... So this continuation of a draconian networking system doesn't bother me much to be honest. I only ever played various shooters so I don't know if there's an entire "Harvest Moon" community out there who's been enjoying blissful online interactions which I'm missing out on, but I doubt it.

That "Resident Evil" looks amazing, that's enough for me to want the system...

:D

... who needs friends with a game like that, right?

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#13 BrunoBRS
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seems better than brawl's online :P
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#14 DJ_Lae
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All Nintendo had to do was copy the basics of Apple's Game Center, which in turn copied the basics of XBL/PSN/Steam/etc. There's a reason everyone has a standard set of friend lists, leaderboards, achievements, and the like - it's because they work. It's possible the quote is taken out of context, or there's more to it, but it's as if every other bit of news about the 3DS is negative. Does Nintendo want anyone to buy the thing?
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#15 gamingboss
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no big deal..

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#16 Cruse34
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seems better than brawl's online :PBrunoBRS

brawl had online?

I expect the 3DS to outdo the wii in every catagory online

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#17 hydralisk86
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I've only played a few DS games online, but it wasn't that much of a hassle. But then again, I guess when you play online a lot, and play lots of games online, then it becomes more of an issue.
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All Nintendo had to do was copy the basics of Apple's Game Center, which in turn copied the basics of XBL/PSN/Steam/etc. There's a reason everyone has a standard set of friend lists, leaderboards, achievements, and the like - it's because they work. It's possible the quote is taken out of context, or there's more to it, but it's as if every other bit of news about the 3DS is negative. Does Nintendo want anyone to buy the thing?DJ_Lae

This is a Nintendo console. This is what happens

The gaming universe gets hyped up for it, and then we get let down. Same reason everyone here thinks I'm crazy to have bad things to say about the 3DS with the good things, apparently critizing the platform is out of the question.

-Wii was suppose to be motion gaming revolution, turns out it need an attachment to do what it promised.

-Wii was suppose to have good graphics in comparison to other consoles, then the Red Steel bullshots were seen for what they really were.

-Oh, the Virtual Console is cool,...wait i only have 512MB of Memory? WiiWare/DSiWare download cap?

-Wait, no online games for a year after launch, and no voice chat at that?

-Wii can't play DVDs in 2006? The SD card slot is useless to us for 3 years until 2009?

-N64 using Carts instead of CDs, GameCube using mini-DVDs instead of DVDs (and no online play on GCN)

Seriously, Nintendo fans can almost predict the flaws of a Nintendo console before launch. Thats why all the bad news is coming out. And people are going crazy, had they just moderated themselves and remembered this is Nintendo, a game developing company not a full fledged OS/Software company like others, they would be less disapointed when they hear that they have 15 digit codes to play with friends, or storage problems.

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#19 DJ_Lae
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That's true, although I figured Nintendo might have actually learned their friend code lesson with the Wii - they've had years to develop something for the 3DS and their next console. Even Sony, a company based on hardware, managed to cobble together a decent approximation of a friends list and achievements.
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#20 Alx1231
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I don't really want this huge online thing for the 3DS. I'm okay with the friend code thing as long as it's per console and I can still do random in Mario Kart and Street Fighter.

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#21 darth-pyschosis
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That's true, although I figured Nintendo might have actually learned their friend code lesson with the Wii - they've had years to develop something for the 3DS and their next console. Even Sony, a company based on hardware, managed to cobble together a decent approximation of a friends list and achievements.DJ_Lae

What makes it worse is that likely these changes, or lack of changes, will carry over to Wii 2

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]seems better than brawl's online :PCruse34

brawl had online?

you seem to get the idea :P
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#23 ZIVX
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You got to be **** kidding me Nintendo! All I've been hearing is bad news lately over the 3DS!

But to remain optimistic, the quote is very vague and it could mean many things. Nintendo did admit that their online sucks after all.

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#24 YoungFlitz
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I honestly don't want any friend codes. But if they announced them then we have to live with it though.

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#25 venomdeo
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Never got why Nintendo went with hole FC thing. It really bis stupid.

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#26 Tuky06
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. Nintendo did admit that their online sucks after all.

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Yeah, I would figure they could at least have a PSN-like online feature, even if they stripped it down to just a friend list (with no FC) It would be better than anything FC related honestly.
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#27 SolidTy
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oh no....OH NO! WHY?

Well, that means this is the online standard for the next five+ years for the 3DS, I guess we better get used to it.

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#28 OreoMilkshake
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I'd like to know more about this before I judge.
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#29 NaveedLife
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This doesnt really mean much, but it could be a bad sign. I mean just because there are things called friend codes doesnt mean it all operate the same. They just need to have the code be for the player not the game. I guess we will see in a week or so :P.

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#30 nintendoboy16
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I don't mind that much, as long as i can still play random people.

alexh_99
This, a few Wii games (like CoD4, Tatsunoko vs Capcom and Goldeneye) do this and it's better to do that then REQUIRE a friend code to play online (Animal Crossing).
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#31 xXDante666Xx
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I may have overlooked it, but is the 3DS WPA compatible? If not then it doesn't matter to me because I won't be playing online. I'm also not being a tool that sits inside a starbucks to get online and realize the person who said they would be online at that time has stood me up yet again. lol

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#32 iano-87
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I may have overlooked it, but is the 3DS WPA compatible? If not then it doesn't matter to me because I won't be playing online. I'm also not being a tool that sits inside a starbucks to get online and realize the person who said they would be online at that time has stood me up yet again. lol

xXDante666Xx

I really hope Nintendo hasn't done this to us again :(

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#33 dzimm
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Online play is overrated, so I don't care about friends codes, but I guess this sucks for people who are really into it.

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#34 dzimm
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Same reason everyone here thinks I'm crazy to have bad things to say about the 3DS with the good things, apparently critizing the platform is out of the question.darth-pyschosis

It's not that. It's that all you do is criticize and then say you're planning on a day-one purchase. Just leaves some of us scratching our heads is all.

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[QUOTE="alexh_99"]

I don't mind that much, as long as i can still play random people.

nintendoboy16
This, a few Wii games (like CoD4, Tatsunoko vs Capcom and Goldeneye) do this and it's better to do that then REQUIRE a friend code to play online (Animal Crossing).

well to be honest, in wild world many bridges were axed until they disappeared :P
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#36 Gamingclone
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Friend codes to matter to me. Just as long as the 3DS can get past my wireless router's security in place.

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#37 Aquat1cF1sh
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Personally I don't think they're that big of a deal. >__>
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#38 BreakTheseLinks
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I'm hoping Nintendo stays true to their when they admitted that the online systems stinks (I'm sure they know how the consumers feel about Friend Codes). There's still a good chance that the code could be system specific not game specific. I don't really play my handhelds online so either way I don't really care.
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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]Same reason everyone here thinks I'm crazy to have bad things to say about the 3DS with the good things, apparently critizing the platform is out of the question.dzimm

It's not that. It's that all you do is criticize and then say you're planning on a day-one purchase. Just leaves some of us scratching our heads is all.

Well stop scratching your head, you're going to go bald.

Its pretty common to research a product before you buy it, and its a good idea to see the products strengths and weaknesses if you're planning on investing a lot of money into it.

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#40 OreoMilkshake
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Capcom says we're jumping to conclusions.

What's also noteworthy is that we can get interrupted to play online even during single player. Huge improvement there.

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#41 darth-pyschosis
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Capcom says we're jumping to conclusions.

What's also noteworthy is that we can get interrupted to play online even during single player. Huge improvement there.

OreoMilkshake

I wouldn't call being interrupted during my private play time an improvement, but I understand what you're saying

I doubt Capcom would actually hint at anything by their "jumping" statement. Nintendo would kill them. They haven't really specified what we are "jumping" about.

I sincerely hope that they are hiding something though, but I doubt they'd actually mean anything by it. Like a universal FC.

I just have a bad feeling about all this, if Friend Codes were dead, or there was one per system, Nintendo would be shouting this from the roof tops. But they aren't, and while I hope their is a great solution to FCs that is shown to us soon, the fact that they still haven't revealed it 2 months (less than) the launch shows how serious they take online gaming.

I have a feeling that we may get a moderately more simple FC solution, but somehow with a quirky Nintendo twist.

Please prove me wrong Nintendo

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#42 Sepewrath
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Yeah I don't know why people are jumping to conclusions, in the same way people say the very existence of Friend Codes makes things look bleak, what about things like Street Pass which is a major feature, that doesn't really support such a constrained system. Even if they brought back friend codes for each game, it might not necessarily work the same, streamlining it would take away most of the problems the system has. Like lets say, they made it so that, if you add a system friend code, that it automatically adds the codes of games that you and a friend share. So in essence you only have to add one code, but you still have control over each individual game. Its not the existence of several friend codes that's the problem, its the cumbersome execution by Nintendo.
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#43 darth-pyschosis
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Yeah I don't know why people are jumping to conclusions, in the same way people say the very existence of Friend Codes makes things look bleak, what about things like Street Pass which is a major feature, that doesn't really support such a constrained system. Even if they brought back friend codes for each game, it might not necessarily work the same, streamlining it would take away most of the problems the system has. Like lets say, they made it so that, if you add a system friend code, that it automatically adds the codes of games that you and a friend share. So in essence you only have to add one code, but you still have control over each individual game. Its not the existence of several friend codes that's the problem, its the cumbersome execution by Nintendo. Sepewrath

I wouldn't mind a system like you mentioned, and I honestly think you will be right, we have FCs for everything but more streamlined.

But then whats the point of multiple FCs if that can all be by passed by linking all your FCs to one system code? Seems like a waste, but meh. It just seems Nintendo-ish.

People shouldn't jump to conclusions, nothing is confirmed, but this is the company who is not really supporting Motion Plus, the Balance Board, the Storage Solution solved nothing really because there is still a cap on WiiWare/DSiWare (there is no storage solution for DSiWare actually) or the Virtual Console (anymore) all that tends to build a bit of worry and fear in Nintendo fans when they hear the slightest bit about things like Friend Codes

So again, while no one should be jumping to conclusions, there are reasons why people don't have faith in Nintendo to fix things.

Hopefully Nintendo alleviates all the fears of the gaming masses.

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#44 SaltyMeatballs
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TC is here to bring bad news.

Anyway, I will wait for the 19th for confirmation. Japanese translations are a bit iffy, check the update of the article:

"UPDATE 4:57 -- Regarding the friend codes and friend list, Famitsu does not make any mention about these being game-specific or universal across the 3DS system. We'll presumably have to wait for clarification from Nintendo."

If there are FC, I think it will be system wide (cheap mans gamertag) like on the Wii. Still disappointing if it will be as limited as the Wii.

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This sounds really good.
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#46 dzimm
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Capcom says we're jumping to conclusions.OreoMilkshake

Gamers jumping to conclusions? Inconceivable! I don't know who this Capcom bloke is, but he's crazy.

:P

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#47 darth-pyschosis
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TC is here to bring bad news.

Anyway, I will wait for the 19th for confirmation. Japanese translations are a bit iffy, check the update of the article:

"UPDATE 4:57 -- Regarding the friend codes and friend list, Famitsu does not make any mention about these being game-specific or universal across the 3DS system. We'll presumably have to wait for clarification from Nintendo."

If there are FC, I think it will be system wide (cheap mans gamertag) like on the Wii. Still disappointing if it will be as limited as the Wii.

SaltyMeatballs
if I'm here to bring bad news why did I say everything you just said in my OP? I don't want to hear bad news about the 3DS anymore than anyone else.
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#48 Sepewrath
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I wouldn't mind a system like you mentioned, and I honestly think you will be right, we have FCs for everything but more streamlined.

But then whats the point of multiple FCs if that can all be by passed by linking all your FCs to one system code? Seems like a waste, but meh. It just seems Nintendo-ish..

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Well what was the point of Friend Codes in the first place? I guess to give you control over who you play with an each game, not a bad idea; just terrible, terrible execution. But like I said, its easily solvable if they choose to do so(I hope so) two small changes to the system and no one could legitimately complain anymore. The rest of that stuff is really inconsequential, peripherals are a toss up, you know that going in; they may get used a lot, they might not. Its common practice for just about every console that has every come out. Nintendo is not going to change their plans in the middle of a generation, so things like that cap would have to wait until the next console in the same way online gaming, a backlight etc had to wait for new hardware. The DSi doesn't need a storage solution, does anyone even buy anything from there lol, but with the 3DS coming out and it likely becoming 3DSWare, its pointless to worry about that now. So personally I don't share this fear, it would be a disappointment if they made no changes to the system, but history has shown that they learn from their mistakes even if they don't just simply follow what every else does. i.e. Gamecube disc
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#49 darth-pyschosis
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I wouldn't mind a system like you mentioned, and I honestly think you will be right, we have FCs for everything but more streamlined.

But then whats the point of multiple FCs if that can all be by passed by linking all your FCs to one system code? Seems like a waste, but meh. It just seems Nintendo-ish..

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Well what was the point of Friend Codes in the first place? I guess to give you control over who you play with an each game, not a bad idea; just terrible, terrible execution. But like I said, its easily solvable if they choose to do so(I hope so) two small changes to the system and no one could legitimately complain anymore. The rest of that stuff is really inconsequential, peripherals are a toss up, you know that going in; they may get used a lot, they might not. Its common practice for just about every console that has every come out. Nintendo is not going to change their plans in the middle of a generation, so things like that cap would have to wait until the next console in the same way online gaming, a backlight etc had to wait for new hardware. The DSi doesn't need a storage solution, does anyone even buy anything from there lol, but with the 3DS coming out and it likely becoming 3DSWare, its pointless to worry about that now. So personally I don't share this fear, it would be a disappointment if they made no changes to the system, but history has shown that they learn from their mistakes even if they don't just simply follow what every else does. i.e. Gamecube disc

True, but on the storage Solution for Wii, all Nintendo had to do was let software run off the SD card instead of copying to internal memory and then back to SD. And if you could run it off an SD card, then people would have more than 512MB memory to work with, therefore titles like Super Meat Boy would make WiiWare because why have a size file limit of 40MB if your consumers have more than your alloted 512MB?

They could've bundled every Wii with a 2GB SD card from 2009 on. Wouldn't have taken some great mid generation solution, seems like it would take very little effort.

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Wait till the 19th, fuhthuluvagawd!

But still, dmmit to hell, Nintendo.