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#1 xXl_IMoRTaL_lXx
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You know how Gamespot rates games in specific categories like value, sound, graphics and gameplay and that makes an overall score?

I also read that as times progress gamespot would rate games accordingly, like To Human got a 5.5 today beccause it is average, but 10 years ago it would be a 10/10.

So my question is, how can any game on the Wii get a 9-10 in the graphics category compared to the PS3, PC and 360 graphics? Imean obviosly the wii has more cartoony graphics, but they refused to go HD! So i guess im jusxt asking how the game could score highly in the graphics compartment, if gamespot is supposed to stay true to the times.

PS (Im not hating, i would love to buy a wii, a 360 is jsut my personal choice because i am an avid gamer =)

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#2 Rocky32189
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They rate it based on the power of the platform it is on. It would be pointless to rate Wii graphics on the same level as the other consoles.
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#3 presto7640
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They rate it based on the power of the platform it is on. It would be pointless to rate Wii graphics on the same level as the other consoles.Rocky32189

Exactly. It's the same reason why handhelds can still score highly in graphics and sound.

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#4 famicommander
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Each game is rated according to the standards of its platform.
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#5 DemonLordPanda
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Game spot dose not rate things right for example grand theft auto 4 got a 10-10 so they are saying that GTA4 is "Perfect" there is no perfect game if it was perfect then no one would hate, and no one would stop playing the game.

Game spot simply rights based on popularity halo originally was a 5ihs score till it got popular witch is to say i would give it a 4.2 because i love the story but i hate the game play.

a real scoring system would get read of the score and say " this is a personal opinion we love it, hate it, it was ok, In two category's game play and story not graphics

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#6 chris3116
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GameSpot rates by the standard of the console not by comparing the other console.

IMO, games at 10/10 should not exist. There's no perfect games. Also, you should not take GameSpot ratings as the absolute ratings especially when GameSpot gave a 10 at Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 on PS2. For me, after that, GameSpot ratings jumped the shark very bad.

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#7 Wintry_Flutist
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Also, nowadays art direction counts as much if not more than just technical aspects. It's impossible to compare visuals technically now, for example Mario Galaxy looks a lot more delicious than your average PS3/360 games.

GameSpot rates by the standard of the console not by comparing the other console.

IMO, games at 10/10 should not exist. There's no perfect games. Also, you should not take GameSpot ratings as the absolute ratings especially when GameSpot gave a 10 at Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 on PS2. For me, after that, GameSpot ratings jumped the shark very bad.

chris3116

A game deserves 10/10 when it changes the way we play games. That's usually how they give out perfect scores.

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#8 livinitup01
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You know how Gamespot rates games in specific categories like value, sound, graphics and gameplay and that makes an overall score?

I also read that as times progress gamespot would rate games accordingly, like To Human got a 5.5 today beccause it is average, but 10 years ago it would be a 10/10.

So my question is, how can any game on the Wii get a 9-10 in the graphics category compared to the PS3, PC and 360 graphics? Imean obviosly the wii has more cartoony graphics, but they refused to go HD! So i guess im jusxt asking how the game could score highly in the graphics compartment, if gamespot is supposed to stay true to the times.

PS (Im not hating, i would love to buy a wii, a 360 is jsut my personal choice because i am an avid gamer =)

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Quite honestly because not many games on Wii look that great so the few games that do look good (Metroid Prime 3, Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Battalion Wars 2, etc.) score high in that category. Because the PS3 and 360 are HD 1080p consoles the expectations of games are extremely high so if a 360 game doesn't look as good as BioShock, The Darkness, Gears of War, etc. then it won't score high.

And another thing, THE WII DOESN'T HAVE CARTOONY GRAPHICS AT ALL!! There are just a lot of shovelware developers that want to make games with kiddy graphics. That by no means reflects the system, but what developers want to make. The gamecube didn't have kiddy graphics, it just had kiddie developers. If you saw Wii's shovelware on the PS3 with a few graphically outstanding games then for sure everyone would say the PS3 had kiddie graphics too.

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#9 jameslangford
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As far as the graphics go, they rate based on the platform. For a wii game to get a good graphics score at this point it needs to be perfecty polished. It will get no excuse for lack of hardware, but if the graphics are good enough it will pass.

Ratings are a different story though. Has anyone noticed that when a game is rated on each site, if it is a big franchise you can guess often what the score will be before it comes out. And if its off the slightest fans revolt against the site and slam the review, not basing it on merits. It also seems like its largely part of the hype machine. So I think the major franchises like GTA, Halo, Super Smash Bros are hyped up to please fans of the series and are like paid advertising for the publishers for that last marketing push. Otherwise why are those games launched with reviews on the day they come out, but other games aren't reviewed for a while. Its all about you coming to the site and supporting it and getting money from the publishers for advertising.

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#10 briancporter13
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IMO, games at 10/10 should not exist. There's no perfect games. chris3116

I disagree, but think that GTA4 deserved something in the high 9's mostly because the gameplay got somewhat monotonous.

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#11 BuryMe
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Games are rated based on the standards of the platform it's on.

If they were compared to every other system on the market, the PSP and DS would never have any high scoring games

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#12 presto7640
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IMO, games at 10/10 should not exist. There's no perfect games.

chris3116

You're being too literal. These are career journalists who work in the industry every day, they realize there's no 'perfect' games. 10/10 simply means 'best of the best.'

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#13 BuryMe
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GameSpot rates by the standard of the console not by comparing the other console.

IMO, games at 10/10 should not exist. There's no perfect games. Also, you should not take GameSpot ratings as the absolute ratings especially when GameSpot gave a 10 at Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 on PS2. For me, after that, GameSpot ratings jumped the shark very bad.

chris3116

a 10 should be awarded when the game cannot be improved upon in any meaningful way.

What's the point of a score existing if it can never be awarded?

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#14 webbut
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Game ratings rate the games on that system they dont compare games over each other

Also, nowadays art direction counts as much if not more than just technical aspects. It's impossible to compare visuals technically now, for example Mario Galaxy looks a lot more delicious than your average PS3/360 games.

[QUOTE="chris3116"]

GameSpot rates by the standard of the console not by comparing the other console.

IMO, games at 10/10 should not exist. There's no perfect games. Also, you should not take GameSpot ratings as the absolute ratings especially when GameSpot gave a 10 at Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 on PS2. For me, after that, GameSpot ratings jumped the shark very bad.

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A game deserves 10/10 when it changes the way we play games. That's usually how they give out perfect scores.

I agree i dont think 10/10 means perfect i think its just revolutionary Pro skater deserved it because it is the skate game all other skating games are pretty much descendants of this game. and it was addictive at least me and my friends thought so

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#15 webbut
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Game ratings rate the games on that system they dont compare games over each other

Also, nowadays art direction counts as much if not more than just technical aspects. It's impossible to compare visuals technically now, for example Mario Galaxy looks a lot more delicious than your average PS3/360 games.

[QUOTE="chris3116"]

GameSpot rates by the standard of the console not by comparing the other console.

IMO, games at 10/10 should not exist. There's no perfect games. Also, you should not take GameSpot ratings as the absolute ratings especially when GameSpot gave a 10 at Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 on PS2. For me, after that, GameSpot ratings jumped the shark very bad.

Wintry_Flutist

A game deserves 10/10 when it changes the way we play games. That's usually how they give out perfect scores.

I agree i dont think 10/10 means perfect i think its just revolutionary Pro skater deserved it because it is the skate game all other skating games are pretty much descendants of this game. and it was addictive at least me and my friends thought so

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#16 DemonLordPanda
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So that one day a game will come that deserves that tittle for have the "best of every thing." witch is impossible based on current technology to do so also if what you state to be true that a game get 10 if it can not excel any more the the madden seres would have gotten that four years ago because its the same every time. Also you have to take in a count that the people that rated it a 10 weren't the customer rather a gamespot employee. I have gone through and looked at over 50 reviews before i bot it, And i thought it would be good but when me and some Friends played it we got tiered of the terrible dialog and game play. the engine was glitchy plot had to many holes. like i said in my last post i do not rate games by image Rather game play that runs smooth with the story line, that is it. further more i didn't intend this to be a rant on GTA4 because i believe games like GTA4 should be violently shoved down the makers throat till sines of actual talent poor from there eyes.

I'm done talking about this lets just stay on the mane subject so this forum dose not get band when some one says a word that resembles butt and gamespot starts menstruating.

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#17 Lyphe2k
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I'm sure the reviewer lowers his standards when rating Wii games. It's just like how a DS game can get acclaim for its graphics, even though the PSP looks a million times better.
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#18 Chojuto
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Nintendo Power gave Brawl a 10 out of 10, but they mentioned in the review that 10/10 doesn't mean perfect, it means pretty close to perfect. Or something like that.
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#19 Lyphe2k
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Nintendo Power gave Brawl a 10 out of 10, but they mentioned in the review that 10/10 doesn't mean perfect, it means pretty close to perfect. Or something like that.Chojuto

yeah, esspecially if it's coming from NP.

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#20 get-some-pie
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They rate it based on the power of the platform it is on. It would be pointless to rate Wii graphics on the same level as the other consoles.Rocky32189
This is true. It would be pretty pointless t ocompare the Wii to the PS3 graphics-wise.
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#21 clicketyclick
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According to GameSpot's own explanation of their rating scale:

10.0: Prime.This exceedingly rare score refers to a game that is as perfect as a game can aspire to be at its time of release. Obviously, the constantly changing standards for technology and gameplay will probably make this game obsolete some day, but at its time of release, a game earning this score could not have been improved upon in any meaningful way.GameSpot

If the graphics could not have been improved upon in a meaningful way on Wii at the time, bada bing, a 10. And the more realistic the graphics is not necessarily the better. It depends on how well the art style is pulled off and how well it suits the game.

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#22 gmc2u_64
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GameSpot rates by the standard of the console not by comparing the other console.

IMO, games at 10/10 should not exist. There's no perfect games. Also, you should not take GameSpot ratings as the absolute ratings especially when GameSpot gave a 10 at Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 on PS2. For me, after that, GameSpot ratings jumped the shark very bad.

chris3116

Well, then i guese from your standards that Ocarina of time (the game that revolutionized adventure games and other games today) shouldn't exist. Seriously, games that are revolutionary, have awesome story, gameplay, graphics, etc. deserves some 10's IMO.

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#23 townsenda1
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They rate it based on the power of the platform it is on. It would be pointless to rate Wii graphics on the same level as the other consoles.Rocky32189
I totally agree with Rocky32189. That is the reason why.
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#24 blacksiteninja
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if the wii was judged according to HD standards, then it would always recieve low ratings in the graphics category, and that's just stupid
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#25 CheeChee_Macko
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'tis all relativity mate.
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#26 firefox59
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Except the Wii ratings from gamespot seem to start at 8 and go down instead of 10.....
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#27 JordanElek
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You know how Gamespot rates games in specific categories like value, sound, graphics and gameplay and that makes an overall score?xXl_IMoRTaL_lXx

That's not at all how Gamespot rates games. They haven't done it that way for over a year now. The final score is based purely on overall value, all things considered. There isn't a formula for how highly graphics or sound or gameplay factor into the final score.

So to answer your question - no game can get a 9-10 in the graphics category because a graphics category doesn't exist.

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#28 joshi1s3
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I personally think that the graphics of games includes how they come across as art, how they are expressed.
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#29 rgame1
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i think u need an education. not hating on you, jus saying.