Okami Review by Nintendo Power

I don't care what nintendo says i'm going to get it for wii

In their view, Okami threatens Zelda. Nintendo Power can't have that.Rev3nger

Damn, you might actually be right!

In their view, Okami threatens Zelda. Nintendo Power can't have that.Rev3nger

Exactly. A lot of people were saying that Okami is right on par with the Zelda series and even some argued that it was better than Zelda. Nintendo Power can't have people running around saying that Okami is better than Zelda. That would defeat the whole purpose of Nintendo Power.

[QUOTE="Rev3nger"]In their view, Okami threatens Zelda. Nintendo Power can't have that.staindcoldlp

Exactly. A lot of people were saying that Okami is right on par with the Zelda series and even some argued that it was better than Zelda. Nintendo Power can't have people running around saying that Okami is better than Zelda. That would defeat the whole purpose of Nintendo Power.

[QUOTE="Rev3nger"]In their view, Okami threatens Zelda. Nintendo Power can't have that.staindcoldlp

Exactly. A lot of people were saying that Okami is right on par with the Zelda series and even some argued that it was better than Zelda. Nintendo Power can't have people running around saying that Okami is better than Zelda. That would defeat the whole purpose of Nintendo Power.

Boasting Nintendo games is still OK (although questionable), but this is just ridiculous.

why do they seem to think the Wii version is not as good as the original when most reviewers are saying the opposite??Nomadandsuzie

Because the game isn't developed/published by Nintendo.

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[QUOTE="Rev3nger"]In their view, Okami threatens Zelda. Nintendo Power can't have that.imnotwhite

Exactly. A lot of people were saying that Okami is right on par with the Zelda series and even some argued that it was better than Zelda. Nintendo Power can't have people running around saying that Okami is better than Zelda. That would defeat the whole purpose of Nintendo Power.

It's what most brand specific magazines do now a days. Just hype the product and games for it's systems as much as possible.

why do they seem to think the Wii version is not as good as the original when most reviewers are saying the opposite??Nomadandsuzie

Because Nintendo Power actually grades the title less for it's flaws, flaws that should never be in a two year port.

The controls aren't right, most of the artwork is destroyed, and the title has a higher price then the last effort with this much work in Resident Evil 4.

So while everyone else is ignoring mistakes that should have never been in the game Nintendo Power was honest about everything

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[QUOTE="Rev3nger"]In their view, Okami threatens Zelda. Nintendo Power can't have that.Wintry_Flutist

Exactly. A lot of people were saying that Okami is right on par with the Zelda series and even some argued that it was better than Zelda. Nintendo Power can't have people running around saying that Okami is better than Zelda. That would defeat the whole purpose of Nintendo Power.

Boasting Nintendo games is still OK (although questionable), but this is just ridiculous.

[QUOTE="Nomadandsuzie"] why do they seem to think the Wii version is not as good as the original when most reviewers are saying the opposite??Jaysonguy

Because Nintendo Power actually grades the title less for it's flaws, flaws that should never be in a two year port.

The controls aren't right, most of the artwork is destroyed, and the title has a higher price then the last effort with this much work in Resident Evil 4.

So while everyone else is ignoring mistakes that should have never been in the game Nintendo Power was honest about everything

Sorry friend. But Okami deserved better.

You want me to nitpick your gamecube port of Twilight Princess? Nintendo Power didn't have any problems with that...

Don't even try to defend Nintendo Power, it's a lost cause. They are so bias it's crazy. Didn't they give Nights like a 9?

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Nomadandsuzie"] why do they seem to think the Wii version is not as good as the original when most reviewers are saying the opposite??Mau-Justice

Because Nintendo Power actually grades the title less for it's flaws, flaws that should never be in a two year port.

The controls aren't right, most of the artwork is destroyed, and the title has a higher price then the last effort with this much work in Resident Evil 4.

So while everyone else is ignoring mistakes that should have never been in the game Nintendo Power was honest about everything

Sorry friend. But Okami deserved better.

You want me to nitpick your gamecube port of Twilight Princess? Nintendo Power didn't have any problems with that...

Don't even try to defend Nintendo Power, it's a lost cause. They are so bias it's crazy. Didn't they give Nights like a 9?

No Okami did not deserve better. Okami is a cash in that doesn't measure up in most aspects to the other version.

Some weapons don't even work and reviewers just ignore it. Imagine if in Mario Galaxy the spin attack never worked right but they overlooked it because "you can just jump on guys" instead

Or the fact that the dodge mechanic is COMPLETELY broken. But hey that's ok because the game is so easy. So in Halo if the crouch button DID NOT WORK that would be overlooked because the game is easy.

People are ignoring mistakes bigtime with this title that should have never been in the final product.

[QUOTE="Nomadandsuzie"] why do they seem to think the Wii version is not as good as the original when most reviewers are saying the opposite??Jaysonguy

Because Nintendo Power actually grades the title less for it's flaws, flaws that should never be in a two year port.

The controls aren't right, most of the artwork is destroyed, and the title has a higher price then the last effort with this much work in Resident Evil 4.

So while everyone else is ignoring mistakes that should have never been in the game Nintendo Power was honest about everything

Overreacting as usual... How is that those flaws didn't prevent any other review from praising the game a lot more than NP?

[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Nomadandsuzie"] why do they seem to think the Wii version is not as good as the original when most reviewers are saying the opposite??Jaysonguy

Because Nintendo Power actually grades the title less for it's flaws, flaws that should never be in a two year port.

The controls aren't right, most of the artwork is destroyed, and the title has a higher price then the last effort with this much work in Resident Evil 4.

So while everyone else is ignoring mistakes that should have never been in the game Nintendo Power was honest about everything

Sorry friend. But Okami deserved better.

You want me to nitpick your gamecube port of Twilight Princess? Nintendo Power didn't have any problems with that...

Don't even try to defend Nintendo Power, it's a lost cause. They are so bias it's crazy. Didn't they give Nights like a 9?

No Okami did not deserve better. Okami is a cash in that doesn't measure up in most aspects to the other version.

Some weapons don't even work and reviewers just ignore it. Imagine if in Mario Galaxy the spin attack never worked right but they overlooked it because "you can just jump on guys" instead

Or the fact that the dodge mechanic is COMPLETELY broken. But hey that's ok because the game is so easy. So in Halo if the crouch button DID NOT WORK that would be overlooked because the game is easy.

People are ignoring mistakes bigtime with this title that should have never been in the final product.

"The artwork is broken"

Man you're a character. Coming from a guy who gives Rayman a 9.8?

"The artwork is broken"

Man you're a character. Coming from a guy who gives Rayman a 9.8?

Mau-Justice

The guy with a Dreamcast logo is actually commenting on someone else's tastes?

Yes the paper filter is almost gone. The other version looks faded and rough like it's actually playing on the paper. It's art.

The Wii version is sharp and crisp. What you don't get when you put watercolor on paper. It still bleeds but it's more of just a "game" now.

[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]

"The artwork is broken"

Man you're a character. Coming from a guy who gives Rayman a 9.8?

Jaysonguy

The guy with a Dreamcast logo is actually commenting on someone else's tastes?

Yes the paper filter is almost gone. The other version looks faded and rough like it's actually playing on the paper. It's art.

The Wii version is sharp and crisp. What you don't get when you put watercolor on paper. It still bleeds but it's more of just a "game" now.

You're going to lose the little respect you get.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]

"The artwork is broken"

Man you're a character. Coming from a guy who gives Rayman a 9.8?

Wintry_Flutist

The guy with a Dreamcast logo is actually commenting on someone else's tastes?

Yes the paper filter is almost gone. The other version looks faded and rough like it's actually playing on the paper. It's art.

The Wii version is sharp and crisp. What you don't get when you put watercolor on paper. It still bleeds but it's more of just a "game" now.

You're going to lose the little respect you get.

The greatest mismanaged console in the modern age?

[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]

"The artwork is broken"

Man you're a character. Coming from a guy who gives Rayman a 9.8?

Jaysonguy

The guy with a Dreamcast logo is actually commenting on someone else's tastes?

Yes the paper filter is almost gone. The other version looks faded and rough like it's actually playing on the paper. It's art.

The Wii version is sharp and crisp. What you don't get when you put watercolor on paper. It still bleeds but it's more of just a "game" now.

Dude If you gave Raving Rabbits a 9.8 you should just shut up.

[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]

"The artwork is broken"

Man you're a character. Coming from a guy who gives Rayman a 9.8?

Jaysonguy

The guy with a Dreamcast logo is actually commenting on someone else's tastes?

Yes the paper filter is almost gone. The other version looks faded and rough like it's actually playing on the paper. It's art.

The Wii version is sharp and crisp. What you don't get when you put watercolor on paper. It still bleeds but it's more of just a "game" now.

You're going to lose the little respect you get.

The greatest mismanaged console in the modern age?

How does this prevent him from liking the console? You go from "tastes" to "management", frankly, who's going to take you seriously.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]

"The artwork is broken"

Man you're a character. Coming from a guy who gives Rayman a 9.8?

Wintry_Flutist

The guy with a Dreamcast logo is actually commenting on someone else's tastes?

Yes the paper filter is almost gone. The other version looks faded and rough like it's actually playing on the paper. It's art.

The Wii version is sharp and crisp. What you don't get when you put watercolor on paper. It still bleeds but it's more of just a "game" now.

You're going to lose the little respect you get.

The greatest mismanaged console in the modern age?

How does this prevent him from liking the console? You go from "tastes" to "management", frankly, who's going to take you seriously.

I've never liked Jaysonguy.. and this whole conversation, plus him actually supporting Nintendo power and what he said about Okami explains why.

Nitpicking.. nothing but needless nitpicking.

I've never liked Jaysonguy.. and this whole conversation, plus him actually supporting Nintendo power and what he said about Okami explains why.

Nitpicking.. nothing but needless nitpicking.

_Cab0ose87_

Frankly, he is beyond the worse Nintendo fanboys, always defending Nintendo so harshly and overreacting. And it seems he actually believes we are grateful for that, as if he were our leader or something... Anyway, let's just let this discussion die.

I think nintendo wants mario kart wii to do better in sales, so it is sucking the life out of any threat mario-kart has....including okami.TheAcejoel99

It's good to see Jaysonguy finally put in his place. Bravo.Helen_Mirren

I was dying to see that happen. :P

I think Nintendo is a two faced company in the first place. Whether there is or isn't some conspiracy here, Okami deserves to be played. I think one reason for the Wii version was not just a fan outcry but because the PS2 original didn't sell as well as anticipated, so yes they are trying to cash in on a bigger audience, but justifiably so because Okami deserves it more than the likes of overrated crap like Zelda and Mariokart.TacticalElefant

OK for the overrated, not OK for the crap.

[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]

"The artwork is broken"

Man you're a character. Coming from a guy who gives Rayman a 9.8?

Jaysonguy

The guy with a Dreamcast logo is actually commenting on someone else's tastes?

Yes the paper filter is almost gone. The other version looks faded and rough like it's actually playing on the paper. It's art.

The Wii version is sharp and crisp. What you don't get when you put watercolor on paper. It still bleeds but it's more of just a "game" now.

You're going to lose the little respect you get.

The greatest mismanaged console in the modern age?

Impact wise, and the quality of the games for it's time I'd say Dreamcast is one of the best systems to ever come out.

I loved the Dreamcast, it's not like I worked for Sega and failed at marketing it. Jesus.

For a guy who owns a Wii, nitpicking graphics seems like a bad move. That might Veto 99% of the games out. Your Rayman looks no better than games I played 2 Nintendo consoles ago on my "Mismanaged Console." You cry graphics, and you'll probably end up buying Mario Kart. Irony.

What other subject can you switch to now? Am I an idiot for having Oblivion in my games list? I'm sure you'll think of something.

[QUOTE="Helen_Mirren"]It's good to see Jaysonguy finally put in his place. Bravo.Wintry_Flutist

I was dying to see that happen. :P

NP is epic fail. It used to be really cool in the NES/SNES/64 era, but now it's the most worthless piece of **** game magazine I've ever read (and I've read em all). The reviews are so amateur, and the mag as a whole just lacks substance. Okami's better on the Wii... sure the motion controls aren't entirely spot-on, but I think the widescreen/480p more than makes up for it. Plus, its easier to find.

I don't know what all the complaints are about regarding the artwork and the controls and whatnot. Maybe I'd have needed to play the PS2 version, but the game looks great and the controls are fine. The Wiimote with the brush works really well. I'm enjoying the heck out of the game, myself, even if I apparently should not be enjoying the game.

Also, to everyone in this thread: please quit it with the personal attacks and whatnot. Make the discussion about the topic, not the participants. Otherwise this thread is heading to Lockville.

I recently bought a wii with brawl 2 weeks ago (also own a 360).

After getting galaxy this is my next target, Im a big zelda fan and I'm playing a friend's TP, he also bought RE4 ( which I played nonstop 2 years ago) which I will also be playing soon.

GTAIV, Mario Galaxy and Okami, good month indeed =)

I've yet to play either version of Okami, and I've been waiting on these reviews to see which one I should pick up. When I read NP's review of the game, it really did concern me quite a bit about the Wii version. One of the reasons why this game got so much hype is because the Wii remote would allow us to get a better control experience. Even if this is a bigger issue for some people than others, it's still one to make note of. Every review I've seen thus far has mentioned something about the controls being unresponsive in some degree or another, so even if NP gave it a lower score than usual, it's still a concern that should be taken seriously.

As for everyone making these claims about NP not wanting this game to succeed because it's a "threat to Nintendo's games," I ask that you consider at least this much in regards to the review. The magazine actually recommended that you pick up the original (PS2) version over this game. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't buying the game for a different system altogether be worse than buying the game on the Wii? Okami's no threat to Mario Kart, Zelda or anything else Nintendo makes, as most of those games will sell, regardless of how well Okami does. That's an issue that concerns third-party developers at this point FAR more than it concerns Nintendo. Plus, seeing as how Clover no longer exists, we probably won't see a sequel to this game anytime soon, which takes away any future 'threats,' as well. Seriously, the comments about a magazine that's no longer even owned by Nintendo doing such that actually hurts the system it talks about most makes little to no sense to me.

One of the reasons why this game got so much hype is because the Wii remote would allow us to get a better control experience. Even if this is a bigger issue for some people than others, it's still one to make note of. Every review I've seen thus far has mentioned something about the controls being unresponsive in some degree or another, so even if NP gave it a lower score than usual, it's still a concern that should be taken seriously.

Madmangamer364

I'm just some guy, but in all honesty I find the controls just fine, although I haven't yet run into this dodge thing I keep hearing about. The Celestial Brush handling with the Wiimote is much smoother than I imagine it'd be with an analog stick, and it works great. You hold down B and can draw what you need with just a flick of the wrist.

I'm just some guy, but in all honesty I find the controls just fine, although I haven't yet run into this dodge thing I keep hearing about. The Celestial Brush handling with the Wiimote is much smoother than I imagine it'd be with an analog stick, and it works great. You hold down B and can draw what you need with just a flick of the wrist.

GabuEx

The dodge controls aren't anything to write home about, but they do their job just fine.

Supposedly, you should wave the Nunchuck to a direction and have Ammy dodge in that direction. That doesn't necessarily happen, as he (she?) will normally dodge to a random direction. However, he always dodges when you wave the Nunchuck, and that's good enough for me.

I just want him to dodge the attacks, I can live with him dodging to wherever he wants.

[QUOTE="Nomadandsuzie"] why do they seem to think the Wii version is not as good as the original when most reviewers are saying the opposite??Jaysonguy

Because Nintendo Power actually grades the title less for it's flaws, flaws that should never be in a two year port.

The controls aren't right, most of the artwork is destroyed, and the title has a higher price then the last effort with this much work in Resident Evil 4.

So while everyone else is ignoring mistakes that should have never been in the game Nintendo Power was honest about everything

MAJOR exaggeration and your ingoring the benefits

[QUOTE="Nomadandsuzie"] why do they seem to think the Wii version is not as good as the original when most reviewers are saying the opposite??Jaysonguy

Because Nintendo Power actually grades the title less for it's flaws, flaws that should never be in a two year port.

The controls aren't right, most of the artwork is destroyed, and the title has a higher price then the last effort with this much work in Resident Evil 4.

So while everyone else is ignoring mistakes that should have never been in the game Nintendo Power was honest about everything