Players to Nintendo: Make Chrono Trigger 2

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#1 cmublaze
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Let me start by giving some background on myself. I'm a 24 years old, happily engaged nursing student who has been a gamer most of his life. I started playing games on my dad's old atari system and received a regular nintendo shortly after it's launch. From there, I never looked back. I was such an avid nintendo fan that I even subscribed to their "Nintendo Power" magazine for countless years of my childhood. Super nintendo was and still is my absolute favorite system to date. Why? Because it had amazing role playing games.

Games like Secret of Mana, Final fantasy 3 (america release), Chrono Trigger, and so on. These were 2d games that kept me hooked for hours on end. Simply because the storyline was so fasciniating that I wanted to know more. The combat systems were unique in each game as well. SoM combat was in real-time. Chrono trigger had the ability to combine "techs" to make more powerful unique attacks. And FF3 was unique in that it featured a primative materia system, where winning fights with an esper equipped would eventually teach you the spells it knew.

My rabid fanboy-ism for nintendo died suddenly. Had I finally outgrown Nintendo? What happened? I don't think I'd outgrown nintendo, rather, nintendo changed in a way I could not agree with. I'll elaborate a bit further down. The nintendo 64 was the last nintendo console I ever purchased. After nintendo 64, I purchased a playstation 2. Why? Because ps2 had better roleplaying games, plain and simple. And, they didn't all feature Mario or Luigi.

Oddly enough, I can tell you exactly when I called and cancelled my subscription and lost faith in nintendo. When Pokemon took over. I received like 3-4 months of nothing but pokemon issues of the magazine and was disgusted. What happened to the gripping storylines of RPGs? The combat, dissolved into pitting monsters against eachother? While it was a unique Idea and I give japan developers credit, it can't even compare to RPGs created years earlier! Also, focusing 100% of your energy into that franchise and abandoning all new unique IP's is a horrible strategy.

Fast forward to today. Nintendo is now the 'gimmick' system. You buy 'gimmick' attachments for 'gimmick' games. It doesn't get any shallower than this. 90% of games for the system feature Mario or Sonic. There aren't many new IP's for the system at all. Rather, they are "Wii" making (re-make, get it?) old games with better graphics. While I agree, better graphics are nice, they aren't necessary. Look at Braid for instance. It's a 2d platformer that went gold pretty darn fast. Look at maple story, it's the #1 free MMO out there (highest rate of income) and it too, is 2d. I'm sure you've heard it from the x-box fanboys a ton, but I'm going to say it one more time. Nintendo is beating a dead horse for cash. How many more times will you be content with legend of zelda? How many more times do you want to see Super ultra omega nova smash brothers brawl? Eventually we'll see SIM mario, where you get to watch him clean the dishes.

Right about now you should be contemplating the title of this topic versus the last paragraph. Because yes, it is hypocritical. Yes, I want nintendo to remake an older game for the Wii. But that's where the similarities end. Chrono trigger is viewed by many as the best RPG ever. The story was amazing, the characters unique, the combat fun, and the replay value almost limitless. If you haven't played it, I recommend you do. What I want nintendo to do, is not to make chrono trigger in 3d with awesome graphics. (Chrono cross tried this, and while it was fun, the story was rediculously atrocious) I want Chrono trigger 2. I want a 2d game with great storyline and amazing music. (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NITRZK8z0ek&feature=related). Bring back some, but not all, of the characters. Retake your throne as king of RPGs nintendo. Prove to the world that you still have the ability to produce a truly quality game without the gimmicks attached.

Honestly, I would purchase a Wii if this game were made, and made as a true tribute to all the nintendo fans out there who appreciate the old, wonderful rpgs of yesteryear. Square-enix, please, get to work. Nintendo needs your help.

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#2 DaLegendKilla92
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I think this should be: Players to Square Enix
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#3 cmublaze
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I think this should be: Players to Square EnixDaLegendKilla92

Square did make the game, but it was originally debuted on the nintendo. If squeenix makes the game today it will be cross-platform. Which, I wouldn't mind, either which way. However, I make the recommendation to nintendo because they have much face to save.

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#4 Milkncooke
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Chrono Cross, look it up.

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What I want nintendo to do, is not to make chrono trigger in 3d with awesome graphics. (Chrono cross tried this, and while it was fun, the story was rediculously atrocious) I want Chrono trigger 2. I want a 2d game with great storyline and amazing music. (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NITRZK8z0ek&feature=related). Bring back some, but not all, of the characters. Retake your throne as king of RPGs nintendo. Prove to the world that you still have the ability to produce a truly quality game without the gimmicks attached.cmublaze
Well Nintendo can't do any of that because they don't own the rights. If you want to see more of Chrono, then support the re-release of Chrono Trigger on DS.
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[QUOTE="DaLegendKilla92"]I think this should be: Players to Square Enixcmublaze

Square did make the game, but it was originally debuted on the nintendo. If squeenix makes the game today it will be cross-platform. Which, I wouldn't mind, either which way. However, I make the recommendation to nintendo because they have much face to save.

So much face to save?
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While I certainly wouldn't mind a 2D Chrono Trigger sequel, There's enough current and upcoming quality 2D style RPGs on DS to hold me over indefinetly.
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#8 Cesar_Barba
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Chrono Cross, look it up.

Milkncooke
Just a quick note in case you missed it.
...(Chrono cross tried this, and while it was fun, the story was rediculously atrocious) I want Chrono trigger 2. I want a 2d game with great storyline and amazing music....cmublaze
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#9 BuryMe
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There are 2 problems with your request. SE makes the Chrono series, not nintnedo. and they already made a sequel. It was called Chrono Cross, on the ps1. But yes, i'd love to see a 3rd game, be it in 2 or 3d.
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[QUOTE="DaLegendKilla92"]I think this should be: Players to Square Enixcmublaze

Square did make the game, but it was originally debuted on the nintendo. If squeenix makes the game today it will be cross-platform. Which, I wouldn't mind, either which way. However, I make the recommendation to nintendo because they have much face to save.

Nintendo can't make the game though. It's SquareEnix' IP, they publish it, and Nintendo only has rights to it so far that they make the cartridges that the game is played off of and license the game to be played on their systems (SNES and DS). Nintendo can make their own RPGs, like Mother (Earthbound), Paper Mario, Mario and Luigi, Fire Emblem, and any other game they want to, but it's SquareEnix that you'd have to address to do something about a Chrono game.
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#11 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="DaLegendKilla92"]I think this should be: Players to Square Enixcmublaze

Square did make the game, but it was originally debuted on the nintendo. If squeenix makes the game today it will be cross-platform. Which, I wouldn't mind, either which way. However, I make the recommendation to nintendo because they have much face to save.

That's not the way it works. Any one can't just pick up any franchise and make a new entry. Chrono is Square's IP, so only they can make the game
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[QUOTE="DaLegendKilla92"]I think this should be: Players to Square Enixcmublaze

Square did make the game, but it was originally debuted on the nintendo. If squeenix makes the game today it will be cross-platform. Which, I wouldn't mind, either which way. However, I make the recommendation to nintendo because they have much face to save.

That's like Microsoft making a Mario game.
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You need to get educated about the Wii. The 'gimmick' games can be avoided very easily, and it is entirely subjective whether or not the Wii Balance Board or other peripherals are 'shallow' or 'gimmicks'. Personally I believe that the balance board has the potential to bring great depth to specific games. Also, there are plenty of new IP's around (though admittedly not developed by Nintendo) such as No More Heroes, Deadly Creatures and many more.
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[QUOTE="cmublaze"]

[QUOTE="DaLegendKilla92"]I think this should be: Players to Square EnixMAILER_DAEMON

Square did make the game, but it was originally debuted on the nintendo. If squeenix makes the game today it will be cross-platform. Which, I wouldn't mind, either which way. However, I make the recommendation to nintendo because they have much face to save.

Nintendo can't make the game though. It's SquareEnix' IP, they publish it, it's SquareEnix that you'd have to address to do something about a Chrono game.

This. And Square, these days, would just end up putting it on every console available anyway.
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#15 MonkeyStew
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That's not the way it works. Any one can't just pick up any franchise and make a new entry. Chrono is Square's IP, so only they can make the gameBuryMe

Preach it like it is, brother. Andthere is a second Chrono, just like what everyone is saying. I believe in 2001 or in 2002 Square patented a name for a new Chrono game (I can't quite remember what it was).I read this in either Game Informer or Electronic Gaming Monthly awhile back, but I do remember reading that thepatent expired in 2005 I want to say. Either way if they were going to mkae a new Chrono, they didn't :cry: Let's hope they do though, Chrono series is top fav.

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I really want another Chrono game, 2D or 3D and not even platform matters, as long as it's good enough to be considered a worthy addition to the series I'm all for it. I really which Chrono Trigger Resurrection had not been cancelled though...

And yes it's Square Enix the players should call to about this, not Nintendo.
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#17 clicketyclick
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[QUOTE="cmublaze"]

[QUOTE="DaLegendKilla92"]I think this should be: Players to Square Enixbob_newman

Square did make the game, but it was originally debuted on the nintendo. If squeenix makes the game today it will be cross-platform. Which, I wouldn't mind, either which way. However, I make the recommendation to nintendo because they have much face to save.

That's like Microsoft making a Mario game.

Nintendo should really release a new version of Office. Mine is so buggy and keeps crashing all the time. Dammit, they have many faces to save.
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#18 OniStrat
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If you wan't 2D RPG's you should get a DS. There are many great RPG games on that little device.

Chrono Trigger is one of my fvourite RPG games, but if Square Enix ever decided to do a Chrono Trigger 2 (well, Chrono Cross), I'd want them to take advantage of the technology we have today. Don't get me wrong, I love 16-bit RPG's, it's just that making a game today that resembles old classics feels cheap.

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I think this should be: Players to Square EnixDaLegendKilla92
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#20 Master_Hermes
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1. Chrono Trigger is made by Square Enix not Nintendo.

2. Chrono Trigger 2 already exists. It's called Chrono Cross and it was released on the PSOne in 2000. (Cross is a direct sequel. Accept it).

3. Chrono Trigger's success or failure on the DS will probably determine if the creation of a "Chrono Trigger 3" will come to pass.

4. 2D is unlikely but not inconceivable if it was on DS.

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#21 firefox59
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It would be cool if it was like the first one. I've always wanted to play the first one cause of how much every gamer loved that game.
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#22 jmangafan
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I enjoy how almost all of your post has nothing to do with your own topic.

You want a CT2? Good for you. I'm sure millions agree with you. It'd be grand if you got some facts straight or just bothered to look up relevant information. Because you're wrong on several accounts.

Personally I don't thing we need a direct sequel to CT, the original had a ton of endings across thousands of years. If any game DIDN'T need a sequel, its Chrono Trigger. Chrono Cross was a fantastic game that was about the only reasonable follow up to a game about messing with the flow of time. A third Chrono game would be fine, but I think that taking the series advice as an example, it should look forward to the future and continue a unique growth chain instead of relying on the past.

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#23 Scythes777
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Chrono Cross was fine, deal with it. If SE does anything,(which they wont because Final Fantasy is too far up their ***) I could see them remaking Chrono Cross due to Chrono Trigger's new ending. Though the chances of touching the series again is highly unlikely.
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Nintendo to players- "we didn't make the game, but please keep your eyes out for our New Play Control series games coming soon, click"

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#25 Pesantez
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I can't agree with this guy anymore on what he thinks about nintendo and the "Gimmicks".
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#26 Razmitaz
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I have yet to play Chrono Cross, but I totally agree on making a third Chrono game. Chrono Trigger was just amazing.
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#27 SSBFan12
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I really wouldn't mind if the game was 3-D or 2-D.
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#28 AdRock92
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First off, it's completely up to SE what they will do with CT, not Nintendo. Second, I counted a total of 12 games with mario and sonic (not including vc/wiiware) out of what, about 300 games? You're right that's totally 90%. Also, yes Nintendo made the zapper and wii wheel, but they (for the most part) do a good job of enhancing the games they are meant for. The balance board is a great example of how Nintendo is still trying to innovate, even when they could probably just ride off of the money they're raking in from wii sales. Wii speak is a much needed mic and also shows innovation. Lastly, wii M+ will improve the wiimote's motion sensing abilities, again showing that Nintendo's trying to make the wii better.

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#29 presto7640
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I don't think they should make a direct sequel. The first is a masterpiece, and to me, extending the storyline would cheapen it. If Square wants to make a more indirect sequel, like Chrono Cross, I'm fine with that (although I thought Chrono Cross was pretty terrible).

Also, any sequel should use current 3D technology, imo. We all have that 2D nostalgia, but nothing they create today will be able to live up to our childhood memories. Rather than regress, we should demand the industry refine and perfect its 3D gameplay.

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#30 mesc420
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Id love to see it. I never played Chrono Cross and from what I hear im not missing anything. So id love a good sequel with most of the same characters.

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#31 superapo
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wasnt chrono cross the sequel? so basically cross is like chrono trigger 2

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#32 Katzenbalger
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I enjoyed Chrono Trigger from what i remember/played of it (on the Snes, some years ago. My younger brother finished it, i didn't. Don't have a DS so i can't get it now) so i perfectly understand why everybody who played itwouldwant another one.

HoweverI get the impression that there would be an 'Indiana Jones' situation if they made a new Chrono Trigger. By thisi mean everybody asks for one for years until another one is in development, everybody gets excited about it, and when they get it they all cry foul because it isn't as good, then complain about it. Exactly what happened with 'The Crystal Skull'; everybody wanted a new Indiana Jones some 17 or so years after the last one (it was calledLast Crusade for a reason) and when it came outit wasn't as good as the originals, theneverybody went tothe internet and started complaining about it. I'drather thatnot happen, and that everybody just remembered the game fondly (or just bought it again on DS i suppose)

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It's ashame this guy is 24... supposing he's telling the truth.

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#34 flarebrass13
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Actually that already happened they made chrono cross and a lot of people complained and rightly so the game wasn't very good. But I digress another CT would be amazing if done well but I doubt that will ever happen.