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#1 Kiki250
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Some people were pretty upset with my legendary Pokemon team, and they did not clearly understand that they were just the legendaries that I happened to catch, and I trained them, I also have a normal team, not legendary so here it is: Blaziken Lv.100 ____________ Rock Climb Blaze Kick Sky Uppercut Overheat Salamance Lv.100 _______________ Fly Fire Fang Crunch Dragon Breath Dragonite Lv.100 _____________ Flamethrower Thunder Wave Wing Attack Dragon Rush Flygon Lv.100 ___________ Supersonic Earthquake Sandstorm Fire Blast Mightyena Lv.100 _____________ Take Down Crunch Dark Pulse Poison Fang Tyranitar Lv.100 ____________ Crunch Rock Slide Stone Edge Earthquake The two kinds of Pokemon I liked to train the most, are Fire and Dragon, so they know moves around those types, I tend to battle with power, rather than defense, so don't tell em I need to work on that, I know, I use attack power Thanx, tell me what you think! :)
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#2 sman3579
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I would say a 7/10 mabye an 8/10

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#3 Kiki250
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Awesome :)
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#4 sman3579
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Awesome :)Kiki250

I probably would have given it a higher score if there were more powerful moves, and more moves with 100% accuracy.

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#5 Kiki250
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Ya, lolz, I'll work on that, thanx for the tip!
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#6 menosdemon
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i like them ubers for in-game play. they pwn in the battle frontier.

maybe 7 or 8 out of 10 if you did the EVs correctly. some of the moves need work.

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#7 Kiki250
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Yup, I'm definitely gonna work on the moves they do need some work, and they probably could be stronger, i'll see what I can do with them :)
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#8 Sword-Demon
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I think Dragonite and Salamence are too similar. maybe replace him with Metagross or Garchomp also I recommend teaching your dragons outrage and/or draco meteor (very powerful)
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#11 Kiki250
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you should take rock climb off of blaziken

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#12 Kiki250
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Ya, i'm gonna get stronger attacks for them
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#13 Dealge
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[QUOTE="Electivire10"]

you should take rock climb off of blaziken

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Move deleter? Does that exist in the new games?
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#14 Kiki250
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I dont think it does, but i'll search it up, I really hope there's a move deleter, because when I was going through a cave and I needed Rock Climb and Blaziken was the only one who could learn it so I had no other choice but to turnback, but I was 75% of the way through
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[QUOTE="Kiki250"]Awesome :)sman3579

I probably would have given it a higher score if there were more powerful moves, and more moves with 100% accuracy.

Moves with 100 accuracy are usually too weak to be used well.

Anyway about the team: For one I still need EV spreads and Natures. Without that I still can't fully understand your team, and for all I know they could have the worst natures possible for themselves. A quick explanation on each pokemon's role would also be useful since really I can't tell, it seems like you expect each pokemon to be sweep.

For blaziken: swap blaze kick for flare blitz. Also Blaziken would be better to just have 1 fire move since the extra type coverage helps. Rock climb is also complete junk.

For Salamence: The only move I would keep is Fire Fang, and most people don't even like that. due to its mediocre 65 power. I personally like DD mence, but specs mence, CBmence, Scarfmence, all bulkymences, and both mixmences still would work. Seriously, you r mence right now is near useless competitively.

For Dragonite: Why no outrage? DD would also be useful, but mence does that better 9/10 times. Seriously, the only working sets for Dragonite are the agility set and a support set (since it gets heal bell from XD, which mence can't match), really your Dnite mind as well be replaced since you already have mence.

For Flygon: Remove Supersonic and sandstorm, get outrage, and U-turn, and you can use it as a CB flygon or a scarf flygon, depending on what stat you want to increase. You might consider removing this or mence though since half your team is ice weak.

For Mightyena: Its only half-decent stat is its attack, don't use any special attacks *coughdarkpulsecough*

For Tyranitar: You don't need both Rock slide and stone edge. Neither should run out of PP in 1 battle (all that you'll be doing at a time if playing competitively). I reccomend DD, but I really just love the move. Use pursuit if you want a CBtar, since it forces switches on enough pokemon. Obviously DD for a DD tar. Those are two best options to not change moves too much.

About your note: Every team needs defense of some kind, even if it's just one wall. You're being foolish if you believe your mishap team of random pokemon, some of which aren't that great for their role, can actually sweep well. As is forre can wall the whole team save Blaziken and Flygon. Other pokemon can wall this even more effectively. I believe Gliscor walls the whole team. Battling offensively doesn't mean that you battle without defenses, "battling with power" usually means you don't use stuff like mightyena, and actually use full blown OU sweepers, and it still doesn't mean you forget your defenses.

On your team as a whole: half the team is Ice weak, another third is fighting weak. I see a Swampert with Hammer arm being able to take this whole team down. I also see large problems with Gyara, or empoleon.

This team really needs to be overhauled if you actually want to battle competitively.

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Is your Blaziken phisical, special, or mixed?
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#17 Gravsteen
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All your pokes exept Tyranitar is mixed. That's not to smart

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[QUOTE="Kiki250"][QUOTE="Electivire10"]

you should take rock climb off of blaziken

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#19 scorpion_DS
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All your pokes exept Tyranitar is mixed. That's not to smart

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what are you using it for? if this is for in-game usage, that is fine, if you are going to use this team for competitive, then level is an unimportant value because most of the time, the levels are set to 100 for the battles if so, natures and E.V. spreads and items are more important......... I would say a 6/10 or 7/10 for run through but 1/10 for competitive because too many dragon types too much of a weakness to ice, and evidently when you made this team, you weren't thinking about competitive battling, where everyone has the same level and others can use those pokemon too and pokemon faster and stronger, you need to rethink this for competitive.......

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blazikiken - rock climb is junk don't use it, go to the movee deleter, and flare blitz will be better then blaze kick, the recoil will do less damage then taking a hit

salamence - fly is complete junk, for salamence, you don't need a flying type move at all, fire fang is good because it is super effective on steel and that is the only type dragon is not very effective against, but you might also consider using earthquake, dragonbreath is useless, even on a mixmence, you don't use dragonbreath, if you really want to use a special dragon type attack, then use draco meteor and there is no point for crunch, if you are going to go complete physical then I suggest to change this to dd, you might want to switch crunch and fire fang to fire blast and earthquake for a mixmence

dragonite - this is far too much like salamence and many teams have a dragon type counter, so this will get wiped out and so will salamence as well as flygon and ther three easy KOs are done from your team. dragonite's physical attack is much higher than it's special attack, so don't use flamethrower, again, dragonite doesn't need a flying type move and dragon rush has too low of an accuracy so dragon claw is better, and dragon dance is very useful and outrage is necessary.

flygon - too many ice-weak poekmon, salamence is the best, stat wise, get rid of dragonite and flygon. supersonic and sandstorm are useless, reaplace them and I suggest putting a dragon-type moveI suggest outrage, and if you are making this mixed, then use draco meteor as a stab special move.

mighteyena - only reasonable stat is attack so don't use dark pulse but if I were to do this I would not even use a mightyena. not good at all junk stats across the board and not even a good moveset

tyranitar - don't use both stone edge and rock slide I suggest using dd instead of one, but that would be my choice, but you sould use fire punch or aqua tail instead,

and battling with power doesn't mean all sweepers. you NEED some defensive pokemon. if you don't a good sweeper would easily pwn you like, a lucario with extreamspeed would go first and easily pwn your team, and scizor with bullet punch could do the same, so you NEED defensive pokemon so this team EPIC FAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#21 xabu1
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[QUOTE="menosdemon"]

i like them ubers for in-game play. they pwn in the battle frontier.

maybe 7 or 8 out of 10 if you did the EVs correctly. some of the moves need work.

aren't ubers banned in the batttle frontier?
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#22 Kiki250
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[QUOTE="sman3579"]

[QUOTE="Kiki250"]Awesome :)Hegna1

I probably would have given it a higher score if there were more powerful moves, and more moves with 100% accuracy.

Moves with 100 accuracy are usually too weak to be used well.

Anyway about the team: For one I still need EV spreads and Natures. Without that I still can't fully understand your team, and for all I know they could have the worst natures possible for themselves. A quick explanation on each pokemon's role would also be useful since really I can't tell, it seems like you expect each pokemon to be sweep.

For blaziken: swap blaze kick for flare blitz. Also Blaziken would be better to just have 1 fire move since the extra type coverage helps. Rock climb is also complete junk.

For Salamence: The only move I would keep is Fire Fang, and most people don't even like that. due to its mediocre 65 power. I personally like DD mence, but specs mence, CBmence, Scarfmence, all bulkymences, and both mixmences still would work. Seriously, you r mence right now is near useless competitively.

For Dragonite: Why no outrage? DD would also be useful, but mence does that better 9/10 times. Seriously, the only working sets for Dragonite are the agility set and a support set (since it gets heal bell from XD, which mence can't match), really your Dnite mind as well be replaced since you already have mence.

For Flygon: Remove Supersonic and sandstorm, get outrage, and U-turn, and you can use it as a CB flygon or a scarf flygon, depending on what stat you want to increase. You might consider removing this or mence though since half your team is ice weak.

For Mightyena: Its only half-decent stat is its attack, don't use any special attacks *coughdarkpulsecough*

For Tyranitar: You don't need both Rock slide and stone edge. Neither should run out of PP in 1 battle (all that you'll be doing at a time if playing competitively). I reccomend DD, but I really just love the move. Use pursuit if you want a CBtar, since it forces switches on enough pokemon. Obviously DD for a DD tar. Those are two best options to not change moves too much.

About your note: Every team needs defense of some kind, even if it's just one wall. You're being foolish if you believe your mishap team of random pokemon, some of which aren't that great for their role, can actually sweep well. As is forre can wall the whole team save Blaziken and Flygon. Other pokemon can wall this even more effectively. I believe Gliscor walls the whole team. Battling offensively doesn't mean that you battle without defenses, "battling with power" usually means you don't use stuff like mightyena, and actually use full blown OU sweepers, and it still doesn't mean you forget your defenses.

On your team as a whole: half the team is Ice weak, another third is fighting weak. I see a Swampert with Hammer arm being able to take this whole team down. I also see large problems with Gyara, or empoleon.

This team really needs to be overhauled if you actually want to battle competitively.

Ok, will you stop thinking your such a Know-it-all, well, you are NOWHERE close to that, you know nothing about what your talking about, what you just told me to do would completely destroy my team, please dont comment to me if you want to give me false information, im pretty sure you havent played as long as I have and you dont know the original way to play it, dont be a game ruiner

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#23 Kiki250
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[QUOTE="menosdemon"]

i like them ubers for in-game play. they pwn in the battle frontier.

maybe 7 or 8 out of 10 if you did the EVs correctly. some of the moves need work.

xabu1

aren't ubers banned in the batttle frontier?

hmm, well, i think they meant not the competition part of the battle frontier, where you are just battling wild pokemon and trainers

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#24 Kiki250
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All your pokes exept Tyranitar is mixed. That's not to smart

Gravsteen

Well, I tend to add variety to each of my pokemon, where I have different move types for different pokemon, so that im in a tight situation i have a large chance of having an attack very effective on the pokemon, gets me through game very easily =D

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#25 Hegna1
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[QUOTE="Hegna1"]

[QUOTE="sman3579"]

I probably would have given it a higher score if there were more powerful moves, and more moves with 100% accuracy.

Kiki250

Moves with 100 accuracy are usually too weak to be used well.

Anyway about the team: For one I still need EV spreads and Natures. Without that I still can't fully understand your team, and for all I know they could have the worst natures possible for themselves. A quick explanation on each pokemon's role would also be useful since really I can't tell, it seems like you expect each pokemon to be sweep.

For blaziken: swap blaze kick for flare blitz. Also Blaziken would be better to just have 1 fire move since the extra type coverage helps. Rock climb is also complete junk.

For Salamence: The only move I would keep is Fire Fang, and most people don't even like that. due to its mediocre 65 power. I personally like DD mence, but specs mence, CBmence, Scarfmence, all bulkymences, and both mixmences still would work. Seriously, you r mence right now is near useless competitively.

For Dragonite: Why no outrage? DD would also be useful, but mence does that better 9/10 times. Seriously, the only working sets for Dragonite are the agility set and a support set (since it gets heal bell from XD, which mence can't match), really your Dnite mind as well be replaced since you already have mence.

For Flygon: Remove Supersonic and sandstorm, get outrage, and U-turn, and you can use it as a CB flygon or a scarf flygon, depending on what stat you want to increase. You might consider removing this or mence though since half your team is ice weak.

For Mightyena: Its only half-decent stat is its attack, don't use any special attacks *coughdarkpulsecough*

For Tyranitar: You don't need both Rock slide and stone edge. Neither should run out of PP in 1 battle (all that you'll be doing at a time if playing competitively). I reccomend DD, but I really just love the move. Use pursuit if you want a CBtar, since it forces switches on enough pokemon. Obviously DD for a DD tar. Those are two best options to not change moves too much.

About your note: Every team needs defense of some kind, even if it's just one wall. You're being foolish if you believe your mishap team of random pokemon, some of which aren't that great for their role, can actually sweep well. As is forre can wall the whole team save Blaziken and Flygon. Other pokemon can wall this even more effectively. I believe Gliscor walls the whole team. Battling offensively doesn't mean that you battle without defenses, "battling with power" usually means you don't use stuff like mightyena, and actually use full blown OU sweepers, and it still doesn't mean you forget your defenses.

On your team as a whole: half the team is Ice weak, another third is fighting weak. I see a Swampert with Hammer arm being able to take this whole team down. I also see large problems with Gyara, or empoleon.

This team really needs to be overhauled if you actually want to battle competitively.

Ok, will you stop thinking your such a Know-it-all, well, you are NOWHERE close to that, you know nothing about what your talking about, what you just told me to do would completely destroy my team, please dont comment to me if you want to give me false information, im pretty sure you havent played as long as I have and you dont know the original way to play it, dont be a game ruiner

Like, I'm definitely ruining the game. It's more like I actually know how to play competitively. Gyara, Pert, and Empoleon are all commonly used, and all of them can sweep most of your team. Nothing there would destroy you, that team would get destroyed almost as soon as it enters a real competitive battle. It's your choice whether or not to use them, but I can tell you that as it currently is, I can sweep that whole team with a swampert.
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[QUOTE="Kiki250"]

[QUOTE="Hegna1"] Moves with 100 accuracy are usually too weak to be used well.

Anyway about the team: For one I still need EV spreads and Natures. Without that I still can't fully understand your team, and for all I know they could have the worst natures possible for themselves. A quick explanation on each pokemon's role would also be useful since really I can't tell, it seems like you expect each pokemon to be sweep.

For blaziken: swap blaze kick for flare blitz. Also Blaziken would be better to just have 1 fire move since the extra type coverage helps. Rock climb is also complete junk.

For Salamence: The only move I would keep is Fire Fang, and most people don't even like that. due to its mediocre 65 power. I personally like DD mence, but specs mence, CBmence, Scarfmence, all bulkymences, and both mixmences still would work. Seriously, you r mence right now is near useless competitively.

For Dragonite: Why no outrage? DD would also be useful, but mence does that better 9/10 times. Seriously, the only working sets for Dragonite are the agility set and a support set (since it gets heal bell from XD, which mence can't match), really your Dnite mind as well be replaced since you already have mence.

For Flygon: Remove Supersonic and sandstorm, get outrage, and U-turn, and you can use it as a CB flygon or a scarf flygon, depending on what stat you want to increase. You might consider removing this or mence though since half your team is ice weak.

For Mightyena: Its only half-decent stat is its attack, don't use any special attacks *coughdarkpulsecough*

For Tyranitar: You don't need both Rock slide and stone edge. Neither should run out of PP in 1 battle (all that you'll be doing at a time if playing competitively). I reccomend DD, but I really just love the move. Use pursuit if you want a CBtar, since it forces switches on enough pokemon. Obviously DD for a DD tar. Those are two best options to not change moves too much.

About your note: Every team needs defense of some kind, even if it's just one wall. You're being foolish if you believe your mishap team of random pokemon, some of which aren't that great for their role, can actually sweep well. As is forre can wall the whole team save Blaziken and Flygon. Other pokemon can wall this even more effectively. I believe Gliscor walls the whole team. Battling offensively doesn't mean that you battle without defenses, "battling with power" usually means you don't use stuff like mightyena, and actually use full blown OU sweepers, and it still doesn't mean you forget your defenses.

On your team as a whole: half the team is Ice weak, another third is fighting weak. I see a Swampert with Hammer arm being able to take this whole team down. I also see large problems with Gyara, or empoleon.

This team really needs to be overhauled if you actually want to battle competitively.

Hegna1

Ok, will you stop thinking your such a Know-it-all, well, you are NOWHERE close to that, you know nothing about what your talking about, what you just told me to do would completely destroy my team, please dont comment to me if you want to give me false information, im pretty sure you havent played as long as I have and you dont know the original way to play it, dont be a game ruiner

Like, I'm definitely ruining the game. It's more like I actually know how to play competitively. Gyara, Pert, and Empoleon are all commonly used, and all of them can sweep most of your team. Nothing there would destroy you, that team would get destroyed almost as soon as it enters a real competitive battle. It's your choice whether or not to use them, but I can tell you that as it currently is, I can sweep that whole team with a swampert.

the original way was too simple and did not include EVs or in-depth strategies. Hegna is just trying to tell you how to make your team at a competative level.

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Ok, will you stop thinking your such a Know-it-all, well, you are NOWHERE close to that, you know nothing about what your talking about, what you just told me to do would completely destroy my team, please dont comment to me if you want to give me false information, im pretty sure you havent played as long as I have and you dont know the original way to play it, dont be a game ruiner

Kiki250

Also I never stated I knew everything. I just know a bit about competitive battling. If you've been playing Pokemon for 11 + years, then go ahead and say you've played pokemon games for longer than I have. It doesn't matter how long you've been playing, I'm just trying to help. Also if the "original way" means losing to anyone who knows anything about what they're doing, then I'm glad I don't know how to play that way.

the original way was too simple and did not include EVs or in-depth strategies. Hegna is just trying to tell you how to make your team at a competative level.

menosdemon

Thank you for the support. Shows how much people appreciate about the only real advice that comes. Something tells me I shouldn't try and help next time unless the people actually seem to know what they're doing a bit.

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#28 Gravsteen
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[QUOTE="Gravsteen"]

All your pokes exept Tyranitar is mixed. That's not to smart

Kiki250

Well, I tend to add variety to each of my pokemon, where I have different move types for different pokemon, so that im in a tight situation i have a large chance of having an attack very effective on the pokemon, gets me through game very easily =D

I meant that all of your pokes have both physical and special moves. Of cource you have different types of moves. A Blaziken with only fire moves suck. When a pokemon have much higher attack than special attack, you go for only physical moves. You should look at Hegna's post. It's not **** as you said. Your team realy suck now, try some of the things he told you to do.

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[QUOTE="Kiki250"]

[QUOTE="Hegna1"] Moves with 100 accuracy are usually too weak to be used well.

Anyway about the team: For one I still need EV spreads and Natures. Without that I still can't fully understand your team, and for all I know they could have the worst natures possible for themselves. A quick explanation on each pokemon's role would also be useful since really I can't tell, it seems like you expect each pokemon to be sweep.

For blaziken: swap blaze kick for flare blitz. Also Blaziken would be better to just have 1 fire move since the extra type coverage helps. Rock climb is also complete junk.

For Salamence: The only move I would keep is Fire Fang, and most people don't even like that. due to its mediocre 65 power. I personally like DD mence, but specs mence, CBmence, Scarfmence, all bulkymences, and both mixmences still would work. Seriously, you r mence right now is near useless competitively.

For Dragonite: Why no outrage? DD would also be useful, but mence does that better 9/10 times. Seriously, the only working sets for Dragonite are the agility set and a support set (since it gets heal bell from XD, which mence can't match), really your Dnite mind as well be replaced since you already have mence.

For Flygon: Remove Supersonic and sandstorm, get outrage, and U-turn, and you can use it as a CB flygon or a scarf flygon, depending on what stat you want to increase. You might consider removing this or mence though since half your team is ice weak.

For Mightyena: Its only half-decent stat is its attack, don't use any special attacks *coughdarkpulsecough*

For Tyranitar: You don't need both Rock slide and stone edge. Neither should run out of PP in 1 battle (all that you'll be doing at a time if playing competitively). I reccomend DD, but I really just love the move. Use pursuit if you want a CBtar, since it forces switches on enough pokemon. Obviously DD for a DD tar. Those are two best options to not change moves too much.

About your note: Every team needs defense of some kind, even if it's just one wall. You're being foolish if you believe your mishap team of random pokemon, some of which aren't that great for their role, can actually sweep well. As is forre can wall the whole team save Blaziken and Flygon. Other pokemon can wall this even more effectively. I believe Gliscor walls the whole team. Battling offensively doesn't mean that you battle without defenses, "battling with power" usually means you don't use stuff like mightyena, and actually use full blown OU sweepers, and it still doesn't mean you forget your defenses.

On your team as a whole: half the team is Ice weak, another third is fighting weak. I see a Swampert with Hammer arm being able to take this whole team down. I also see large problems with Gyara, or empoleon.

This team really needs to be overhauled if you actually want to battle competitively.

Hegna1

Ok, will you stop thinking your such a Know-it-all, well, you are NOWHERE close to that, you know nothing about what your talking about, what you just told me to do would completely destroy my team, please dont comment to me if you want to give me false information, im pretty sure you havent played as long as I have and you dont know the original way to play it, dont be a game ruiner

Like, I'm definitely ruining the game. It's more like I actually know how to play competitively. Gyara, Pert, and Empoleon are all commonly used, and all of them can sweep most of your team. Nothing there would destroy you, that team would get destroyed almost as soon as it enters a real competitive battle. It's your choice whether or not to use them, but I can tell you that as it currently is, I can sweep that whole team with a swampert.

Ha ha, thats what you think, but you ruin the game for me, you make it sound so boring and having to have everything perfect, nobody or nothing is perfect so stop saying that you can beat my team very easily, you probably cant, and i dont care how good you say you are with competitions to me it doesnt matter

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#30 Kiki250
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[QUOTE="Kiki250"]

[QUOTE="Gravsteen"]

All your pokes exept Tyranitar is mixed. That's not to smart

Gravsteen

Well, I tend to add variety to each of my pokemon, where I have different move types for different pokemon, so that im in a tight situation i have a large chance of having an attack very effective on the pokemon, gets me through game very easily =D

I meant that all of your pokes have both physical and special moves. Of cource you have different types of moves. A Blaziken with only fire moves suck. When a pokemon have much higher attack than special attack, you go for only physical moves. You should look at Hegna's post. It's not **** as you said. Your team realy suck now, try some of the things he told you to do.

I would have if he wasnt so mean about it, I have my own way of doing things, and i dont focus on defense, i focus on attacks

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Ha ha, thats what you think, but you ruin the game for me, you make it sound so boring and having to have everything perfect, nobody or nothing is perfect so stop saying that you can beat my team very easily, you probably cant, and i dont care how good you say you are with competitions to me it doesnt matter

Kiki250

If you want to be a jerk to anyone who trys to help, continue. You really can't tell when some people want to help. To be blunt, you're being pretty stupid. I'm offering advice on how to improve, and you just go and say I ruin the game for you. If you can't stand the competition, then don't play competitively. I can prove to you anytime that I can sweep your team if you want. Sure nothing can be perfect in reality, but you can try for the best you can get, and there are caps, which can be reached in games. Some people actually spend time to get good pokemon for competitive battles, if you don't want to join proper battling with proper players, stick to being a big fish for a tiny pond. When you're ready to join the ocean, I might actually consider helping you. Until then, you can stick to your battles against other non-competitive players, and gloat about your little wins. Don't come whimpering back if a real player crushes you. I tried to help, if you want to insult me for it, don't expect anything later.

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[QUOTE="Kiki250"]

Ha ha, thats what you think, but you ruin the game for me, you make it sound so boring and having to have everything perfect, nobody or nothing is perfect so stop saying that you can beat my team very easily, you probably cant, and i dont care how good you say you are with competitions to me it doesnt matter

Hegna1

If you want to be a jerk to anyone who trys to help, continue. You really can't tell when some people want to help. To be blunt, you're being pretty stupid. I'm offering advice on how to improve, and you just go and say I ruin the game for you. If you can't stand the competition, then don't play competitively. I can prove to you anytime that I can sweep your team if you want. Sure nothing can be perfect in reality, but you can try for the best you can get, and there are caps, which can be reached in games. Some people actually spend time to get good pokemon for competitive battles, if you don't want to join proper battling with proper players, stick to being a big fish for a tiny pond. When you're ready to join the ocean, I might actually consider helping you. Until then, you can stick to your battles against other non-competitive players, and gloat about your little wins. Don't come whimpering back if a real player crushes you. I tried to help, if you want to insult me for it, don't expect anything later.

You were the one being mean in the first place, when I first put up my legendary team you kept telling me how sucky it was when you didnt understand it isnt for competition, I respect that your giving me information, and I dont want to be mean about it, but if you would have nicely gave me reasons for improvements I might have considered it, in fact i probably would have done some things you said, only if you would have commented nicely :(

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#33 Hegna1
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I need EV spreads, natures, and less ubers. Also level is an irrelevant value in competitive battling, so them all being level 100 doesn't really matter. Hegna1
That was actually light coming from me for RMTs. I always go full out for finding flaws with RMTs, I don't see the point in complementing teams, since people should know the team's goodside any way. Trust me that's me going easy on the team. Also that was only 1 post, and I never said it sucked there. I just said I needed more information, and didn't like the use of ubers. Once again, if you don't want my advice feel free to stay as you are. I have been much harsher on RMTs before, so that's really nothing.

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[QUOTE="Hegna1"][QUOTE="Kiki250"]

Ok, will you stop thinking your such a Know-it-all, well, you are NOWHERE close to that, you know nothing about what your talking about, what you just told me to do would completely destroy my team, please dont comment to me if you want to give me false information, im pretty sure you havent played as long as I have and you dont know the original way to play it, dont be a game ruiner

Kiki250

Like, I'm definitely ruining the game. It's more like I actually know how to play competitively. Gyara, Pert, and Empoleon are all commonly used, and all of them can sweep most of your team. Nothing there would destroy you, that team would get destroyed almost as soon as it enters a real competitive battle. It's your choice whether or not to use them, but I can tell you that as it currently is, I can sweep that whole team with a swampert.

Ha ha, thats what you think, but you ruin the game for me, you make it sound so boring and having to have everything perfect, nobody or nothing is perfect so stop saying that you can beat my team very easily, you probably cant, and i dont care how good you say you are with competitions to me it doesnt matter

miley cyrus strikes again

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[QUOTE="Kiki250"]

[QUOTE="Hegna1"][QUOTE="Kiki250"]

Ok, will you stop thinking your such a Know-it-all, well, you are NOWHERE close to that, you know nothing about what your talking about, what you just told me to do would completely destroy my team, please dont comment to me if you want to give me false information, im pretty sure you havent played as long as I have and you dont know the original way to play it, dont be a game ruiner

Like, I'm definitely ruining the game. It's more like I actually know how to play competitively. Gyara, Pert, and Empoleon are all commonly used, and all of them can sweep most of your team. Nothing there would destroy you, that team would get destroyed almost as soon as it enters a real competitive battle. It's your choice whether or not to use them, but I can tell you that as it currently is, I can sweep that whole team with a swampert.

Ha ha, thats what you think, but you ruin the game for me, you make it sound so boring and having to have everything perfect, nobody or nothing is perfect so stop saying that you can beat my team very easily, you probably cant, and i dont care how good you say you are with competitions to me it doesnt matter

that si your opinion and hegna's advice is good advice, that is how compeitive pokemon battles are prepared for and played, if you don't believe him, there are several others who would agree
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#36 Kiki250
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[QUOTE="Kiki250"]

[QUOTE="Hegna1"] Like, I'm definitely ruining the game. It's more like I actually know how to play competitively. Gyara, Pert, and Empoleon are all commonly used, and all of them can sweep most of your team. Nothing there would destroy you, that team would get destroyed almost as soon as it enters a real competitive battle. It's your choice whether or not to use them, but I can tell you that as it currently is, I can sweep that whole team with a swampert.xabu1

Ha ha, thats what you think, but you ruin the game for me, you make it sound so boring and having to have everything perfect, nobody or nothing is perfect so stop saying that you can beat my team very easily, you probably cant, and i dont care how good you say you are with competitions to me it doesnt matter

that si your opinion and hegna's advice is good advice, that is how compeitive pokemon battles are prepared for and played, if you don't believe him, there are several others who would agree

ok?

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[QUOTE="xabu1"][QUOTE="Kiki250"]

Like, I'm definitely ruining the game. It's more like I actually know how to play competitively. Gyara, Pert, and Empoleon are all commonly used, and all of them can sweep most of your team. Nothing there would destroy you, that team would get destroyed almost as soon as it enters a real competitive battle. It's your choice whether or not to use them, but I can tell you that as it currently is, I can sweep that whole team with a swampert.Hegna1

Ha ha, thats what you think, but you ruin the game for me, you make it sound so boring and having to have everything perfect, nobody or nothing is perfect so stop saying that you can beat my team very easily, you probably cant, and i dont care how good you say you are with competitions to me it doesnt matter

that si your opinion and hegna's advice is good advice, that is how compeitive pokemon battles are prepared for and played, if you don't believe him, there are several others who would agree

Xabu was right when he said that there are several others who would agree and one of them is me.Everytime someone says that they need help with their team,if there was one person who would give the best advice,it was Hegna,no doubt about that.Its true that he might not know everything but Hegna is the best person to take advice from.
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#38 Kiki250
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[QUOTE="xabu1"][QUOTE="Kiki250"]

Ha ha, thats what you think, but you ruin the game for me, you make it sound so boring and having to have everything perfect, nobody or nothing is perfect so stop saying that you can beat my team very easily, you probably cant, and i dont care how good you say you are with competitions to me it doesnt matter

TriniPlayer

that si your opinion and hegna's advice is good advice, that is how compeitive pokemon battles are prepared for and played, if you don't believe him, there are several others who would agree

Xabu was right when he said that there are several others who would agree and one of them is me.Everytime someone says that they need help with their team,if there was one person who would give the best advice,it was Hegna,no doubt about that.Its true that he might not know everything but Hegna is the best person to take advice from.

Yeah, and I realize that now, so Hegna, i'm really truly sorry for how mean I was, I read over your comment to help with my team, and i'm really gonna work on it now, i'll definitely be using the advice that you gave me if it's ok with you....but I really hope you accept my apology and if not, I fully understand =)

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#39 Kiki250
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I do really have a terribly sucky team, lol, and I do admit that, I need to do lots to it, and like many people are saying, I can be wiped out with a Swampert with Hammer Arm or even a simple Ice attack, I should give TONS of credit to Hegna, I'm very sorry Hegna, I shouldn't have been rude, and I should have listened to your excellent advice, i'm probably gonna work on a whole new team, with different types of Pokemon, I have too many Dragon types, I need Electric, Water, Fire, Fighting, Psychic, and maybe Ice, But i'm not all sure yet for the pokemon I will choose or if i'll use those exact types but next time I make a rate my team post, i will be improved by a long shot! =D

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I do really have a terribly sucky team, lol, and I do admit that, I need to do lots to it, and like many people are saying, I can be wiped out with a Swampert with Hammer Arm or even a simple Ice attack, I should give TONS of credit to Hegna, I'm very sorry Hegna, I shouldn't have been rude, and I should have listened to your excellent advice, i'm probably gonna work on a whole new team, with different types of Pokemon, I have too many Dragon types, I need Electric, Water, Fire, Fighting, Psychic, and maybe Ice, But i'm not all sure yet for the pokemon I will choose or if i'll use those exact types but next time I make a rate my team post, i will be improved by a long shot! =D

Kiki250
Its very honest of you to come out and say that kiki and i'm sure that Hegna will accept your apology once he get back online.
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#41 Kiki250
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[QUOTE="Kiki250"]

I do really have a terribly sucky team, lol, and I do admit that, I need to do lots to it, and like many people are saying, I can be wiped out with a Swampert with Hammer Arm or even a simple Ice attack, I should give TONS of credit to Hegna, I'm very sorry Hegna, I shouldn't have been rude, and I should have listened to your excellent advice, i'm probably gonna work on a whole new team, with different types of Pokemon, I have too many Dragon types, I need Electric, Water, Fire, Fighting, Psychic, and maybe Ice, But i'm not all sure yet for the pokemon I will choose or if i'll use those exact types but next time I make a rate my team post, i will be improved by a long shot! =D

TriniPlayer

Its very honest of you to come out and say that kiki and i'm sure that Hegna will accept your apology once he get back online.

Thanks =) i feel really good about saying that, it's all the truth, and yeah, it would be very nice if Hegna accepted my apology again, if not, its totally okay, I was mean

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#42 Hegna1
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Thank you for the apology.
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#43 Kiki250
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Thank you for the apology.Hegna1

You dont need to say thank you, It was wrong of me to be mean like that

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#44 Gravsteen
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I can give you some advise for your next team. You said you like pokemons with high attack powers the most. I feel it the same way but if you are going to play online you need som defence pokemon too. If your Dragonite is out against a Starmie with Ice Beam it will problably die. Then you should have someone with high special defence that Starmie cant hurt that much, like a Blissey. Blissey has very, very high special defence and HP. Blissey can easily handle Starmie. It can paralyse it so it looses it's speed and kill it will Seismic Toss, still having almost max HP left. It also have Softboiled to heal itself. So walls is a must in your team. You should also have attacks and pokemon that covers most types. A team with only Fire types will fail. It's also good to create a team that works great together. If you have a Blissey, it will be smart to have a ghost pokemon like Gengar, that Blissey's weakness fighting attacks have no effect on. And as I said before, you must build a pokemon on it's strong points. Like a Starmie that has great special attack and speed. Here you should max out EV's in special attack and speed, and only give it special moves only.

Good luck with your team :)

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#45 Kiki250
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I can give you some advise for your next team. You said you like pokemons with high attack powers the most. I feel it the same way but if you are going to play online you need som defence pokemon too. If your Dragonite is out against a Starmie with Ice Beam it will problably die. Then you should have someone with high special defence that Starmie cant hurt that much, like a Blissey. Blissey has very, very high special defence and HP. Blissey can easily handle Starmie. It can paralyse it so it looses it's speed and kill it will Seismic Toss, still having almost max HP left. It also have Softboiled to heal itself. So walls is a must in your team. You should also have attacks and pokemon that covers most types. A team with only Fire types will fail. It's also good to create a team that works great together. If you have a Blissey, it will be smart to have a ghost pokemon like Gengar, that Blissey's weakness fighting attacks have no effect on. And as I said before, you must build a pokemon on it's strong points. Like a Starmie that has great special attack and speed. Here you should max out EV's in special attack and speed, and only give it special moves only.

Good luck with your team :)

Gravsteen

Thanks for the advice!!!

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#46 Kiki250
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Hmmm, I think the reason I am very confused here is because i'm not used to EV training, which is what everyone is telling me to do although I really don't know what the point of it is.....

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#47 CorruptAndrew
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I know how you feel i just started ev training its still a bit confuseing to me still

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EV's is really helpful and it's important to know if you are going to battle on wifi. EV's are points you get from different pokemons. Like battling a Magikarp you get 1 speed EV, and battling a Bidoof you get 1 HP EV. You can get a total of 510 EV's and max EV's in one stat(like speed) is 255. But you should make that you always can divide the number of EV's you have in one of the stats with 4. This is because for every 4 EV's you get in for example attack, you get one more point in your attack stat. Gyarados has 125 base attack. If he had 252 attack EV's he will get 188 in the attack stat, and will attack much harder. Never train EV's in one stat higher that 252. Remember, divide it with 4 and see if you get decimals or not. The max number of EV's is 255, if you divide it with 4 you get 63.75. Thats why you're not supposed to train higher than 252. Then you get 63 points. So what I did with Gyarados is simply pluss 63 with 125. It's also a way to make the EV training faster. You can give it vitamins like Protein. From each Protein you give your pokemon it gets 10 attack EV's. You can also give your pokemon Power items wich you can buy in the Battle Tower/Frontier. A pokemon that is holding Power Bracer gets 4 extra attack EV's for every pokemon it defeats.

Here is a list of the different Power items do:

Power Weight: 4 extra HP EV's

Power Bracer: 4 extra attack EV's

Power Belt: 4 extra defence EV's

Power Lens: 4 extra special attack EV's

Power Band: 4 extra special defence EV's

Power Anklet: 4 extra speed EV's

Here is a list of which EV's and the ammount every pokemon give you. Just press the black HP box at the top of the page for pokemons that give HP EV's, attack for pokemons that give attack EV's and so on

http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/hp.shtml

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#49 Hegna1
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EVs don't raise base stats *facepalm*. Gyara will still have 125 base attack no matter how many EVs you put into it.
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#50 Kiki250
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Thnx Gravesteen and Hegna!! its getting easier now, i didnt really know what EV was, but now I do, so thanx!!!