Pokemon needs some changes

Warning: Walls of text

Ok, i'm just going to say this out front (Prepares force-field), Pokemon has become boring and repetitive. The Story always stinks(Why can't they think of anything besides a new Team ____?). The formula never changes in the slightest (Bar the occasional lame addition of something like contests). And nothing about it is very realistic. For instance, you can have a level one hundred use hyper beam on a level five and it only faints and can be recovered in moments at a Pokemon center (Which would logically take hours of surgery). The Pokemon, who are supposedly intelligent, can learn less moves than a dog can tricks. And the Alakazam, with IQs of five thousand, are content to be the humble partners of man instead of building their own civilization and totally attemptingus, thus reaching global domination. Also, I find it strange that the online components are limited to battles and trades, when there could be so, so much more. Also, the gyms need to go, it's just so unbelievable that they are lined up in strength in exactly the order that events lead you in. Also, how does someone withPokemon weaker than level twenty become a gym leader? Now, for those of you that barred withme through all of that trolling, i am glad to tell you that this thread isn't all complaining. So, without further ado, i present Pokemon Light and Darkness:

The two versions of this 5th generation would vary much more from each other then past versions in terms of story. In Pokemon Light, you play as a seventeen year old boy who is of the line of an ancient hero. This hero had long ago trapped a sorcerer who had bewitched the Pokemon of the world to do his bidding. During your travels you encounter an organization known as "The Void". They are not simply trying to abduct peoples Pokemon, though that is one of their objectives. They are taking the trainers themselves hostage, and leaving the bodies of any who oppose them to rot. You also encounter a group who is trying to stop them, "The Guardians". The Guardians consist of many characters from past games such Lance, Red, Oak, Steven, etc. You join the guardians and are sent on missions to apprehend followers of The Void. Yes, apprehend, unlike in past games you do not simply let the villains go free after you have defeated them and have them at your mercy. Eventually you must face your childhood Friend/Rival(Who has joined The Void) and the resurrected sorcerer himself.

In Pokemon Darkness, you play as Light's protagonist's rival. Early on you are recruited and indoctrinated by The Void. You are taught that power is all that matters, and by capturing Pokemon in the shadow orbs you are given (Instead of pokeballs) you will slowly increase your power by draining theirs. Throughout the game you are sent on missions and encounter your rival and the guardians often. Eventually you must choose between allowing the deathof your childhood friend or killing the sorcerer and becoming the leader of The Void. Besides the plot the games would be relatively the same, although in darkness people would tend to fear you quite a bit.

Now, on to the game play. There are no gyms in Solun (The region both games take place in). Instead, to reach the elite four you must have won the tournaments in the twelve battle arenas spread across the land. However, the elite four comes before the climax of the conflict between the two stars of the games. Oh, and bothversions will be fully 3D like Phantom Hourglass. Each version also has two versions, one for DSi and one for the others. In the DSi version you will have the option of using head tracking to make the game much more immersive, and can download new moves, items etc. Though you can do these things in the other version, it requires an add-on that plugs into the GBA which acts as a camera and hard drive. Also, light is now a Pokemon type, and the Alakazam have their own city in the sky.Finally, the game will not feature any new Pokemon, because we have enough already.

And who could forget online? In bothversions of the game, there is another desk in the second floor of every Pokemon center. This desk allows access to a portal that brings you to an alternate dimension, one that many other trainers from other alternate dimensions are traveling to. There are many of these dimensions which allows them to act as servers. In these dimensions, the landscape is for the most part the same (Though changed in some ways to allow for many players). Whichever game you use determines your faction, good or evil, in the alternate dimensions. These factions are constantly fighting one another, and though you can refuse a battle from someone of the same side, you can't ignore an attack from an opposing faction member(Unless you are much stronger).And if you quit in the middle of a battle(Turn of your DS) you automatically lose.

Well that about sums it up. Anyone agree with this?

I think that might be the best idea I have read all week. Maybe all year.

Great idea!

If it were more than a dream :(, but an amazing idea !

i just want a 3d mmorpg from ninty on the pcLightning-XIII

Sorry dude, i think Nintendo only makes games for their own systems. However, i think Nintendo could concievably make a decent pokemon MMO on the wii. However, it would most likely be rather expensive as it may have multiple discs. The good thing is Nintendo probably wouldn't charge much, if at all, monthly. Or perhaps they would make monthly fees optional but you would get less features using free online. But considering the pure awesomeness it could be (11 out of 10) I think a PokeMMO would be worth the money.

Pokemon does not need a change. The traditional Pokemon games have been selling fine an been enjoyable and entertaining. Nintendo does not need to fix Pokemon because there is nothing wrong with it. If you have a problem with that, get an other Pokemon game like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, or Pokemon Ranger.Burning-Sludge

It's just an idea. I thought it was a good one.

Pokemon does not need a change. The traditional Pokemon games have been selling fine and been enjoyable and entertaining. Nintendo does not need to fix Pokemon because there is nothing wrong with it. If you have a problem with that, get an other Pokemon game like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, or Pokemon Ranger.Burning-Sludge

Just because it's selling well doesn't mean that it couldn't be made better. Nowadays i would guess that the majority of pokemon buyers are those who are new to the series, not long time devoted veterens. These new games i have proposed wouldn't even have to get in the way of the development of other traditional pokemon games that are more kid freindly. In fact, i would prefer it if the people who are currently working on pokemon keep darn far away from a serious attempt on a re-visioned pokemon. After all, Nintendo is big enough to find some great developers who could make the pokemon many have been waiting for.

Lol i know it's only an idea but come on, Nintendo, change the basic formular of one of there games, im sorry but hell will freeze over first, Nintendo is too scared to change the basic formular of any of there classic games (look at Mario and Zelda), and Hell will freeze over before they even attempt to, sure they'll try new ideas with a new series because they know that they have these games to fall back on if they have any problems.

In some ways i agree abd in some i disagree.For instance I thought it was good that they made 2 different mystery dungeons.

one for the good side one for the bad.

Pokemon is still a good game For 8-12 Year olds Though it can some times stimulate the immagination Out if wack.

But I agree with you that it does become repetative and some times annoying.

They need to make exotic Games Like ones where YOU choose What to say in every sentance Ect.

Warning: Walls of text

 

Ok, i'm just going to say this out front (Prepares forcefield), Pokemon has become uncool and repetative. The Story always stinks (No more team _____s!). The formula never changes in the slightest exept for the occasional lame addition of something contests. Nothing about it is very realistic. For instance, you can have a level one hundred use hyperbeam on a level five and it only faints and can be recovered in moments at a pokemon center (Which would logicaly take hours of surgery). The pokemon, who are supposedly intelligent, can learn less moves than a dog can tricks. And Alakazam, with an IQ of five thousand, is content to be the humble parter of humans instead of building their own civilization and totaly outcompeteing the humans, thus reacing global domination. Also, i find it strange that the online components are limited to battles and trades, when there could be so, so much more. Also, the gyms need to go, it's just so unbelievable that they are lined up in streanth in exactly the order that events lead you in. Also, how does someone with pokemon weaker than twenty become a gym leader? Now, for those of you that beared with me through all of that trolling, i am glad to tell you that this thread isn't all complaining. So, without further ado, i present pokemon Light and Darkness.

 

The two versions of this generation would vary much more from eachother then past versions in terms of story. In Pokemon Light, you play as a seventeen year old boy who is of the line of an ancient hero. This hero traped the greatest sorcerer ever to roam the earth. During your travels you encouter an orginization known as "The Void". They are not simply trying to abduct peoples pokemon, though that is one of their objectives. They are taking the trainers themselves hostage, and leaving the bodys of any who opose them to rot. You also encounter a group who is trying to stop them, "The Guardians". The Guardians consist of many characters from past games such lance, Red, oak steven, etc. You join the gardiens and are sent on misssions to aprehend followers of The Void. Yes, apprehend, unlike in past games you do not simply let the villians go free after you have defeated them and have them at your mercy. Eventually you must face your childhood freind (Who has joined The Void) and the ressurected sorcerer himself.

In pokemon Darkness, you play as Light's protagonist's rival. Early on you are recruited and indoctrinated by The Void. You are taught that power is all that matters, and by capturing pokemon in the shadow orbs you are givin (Instead of pokeballs) you will slowly increase your power by draining theirs. Throughout the game you are sent on missions and encounter your rival and the guardians often. Eventualy you must choose between allowing the death of your childhood freind or killing the sorcerer and becoming the leader of The Void. Besides the plot the games would be relatively the same, although in darkness people would tend to fear you quite a bit.

Now, on to the gameplay. There are no gyms in solun (The region both games take place in). Instead, to reach the elite four you must have won the tournements in the twelve battle areans spread across the land. However, the elite four comes before the climax of the conflict between the two stars of the games. In Light, you will encounter trainers that have captured strong enough pokemon to battle for themselves. In Darkness, you will have to fight other followers to gain a higher position. Oh, and both versions will be fully 3D like Phantom Hourglass. Each version also has two versions, one for DSi and one for the others. In the DSi version: You will have the option of using head tracking to make the game much more imersive, and can download new pokemon, items etc. Though you can do these things in the other version, it requires an add-on that plugs into the GBA which acts as a camera and hardrive. Also, light is now a pokemon type.

And who could forget online? In both versions of the game, there is another desk in the second floor of everypokemon center. This desk allows acces to a portal that allows you to travel to an alternate dimension, one that many other trainers from other alternate dimensions are traveling to. There are multiple versions of these dimensions which allows them to act as servers. In these dimensions, the landscape is for the most part the same (Though changed in some ways to allow for many players). Whichever game you use determines your faction, good or evil, in the alternate dimensions. These factions are constantly fighting one another, and though you can refuse a battle from someone of the same side, if you ignore a fight from the oposide faction you will still be damaged no matter what you do. Also, you can run from battles from the oposite side if you are stronger then they are. And if you quit in the middle of a battle(Turn of your DS) you automaticly lose.

 

Finnaly, the third version would be pokemon twilight, where you can choose if you want to be good or evil.

Head_of_games

*Reads wall of text*

Yup, that's definitely a wall of text.

I'm going to start by nitpicking a little.

First of all, you spent a lot of time complaining about a lack of realism. In a video game. Seriously? That's almost as bad as complaining about talking animals in Disney movies. It's a game; it doesn't have to be real.

Also, when you claim that the formula doesn't change, you must be forgetting about held items, double Pokemon battles, Sp. Attack/Sp. Defense, Dark- and Steel-types, special Pokemon abilities, weather effects, natures, hundreds of new Pokemon and attacks, and all of the other things that have been added to the series since Red/Blue.

Finally, your idea for improving online seems a little overambitious. It can easily be replaced with a room where you can connect with a random person for a quick battle. No need for a huge world to run around in.

Now for your story idea.

It's interesting, and I think it could work with a few adjustments (gotta keep it rated E, 'cause ya know Nintendo won't like having a smaller target audience). Plus, I like the idea of replacing gyms with qualifying tournaments (it just makes more sense that way).

But I believe that as long as the core gameplay remains the same, any changes to the story just won't make much of a difference. People who like Pokemon won't mind a new story (unless it's really awful, and maybe not even then), and people who don't like Pokemon won't care about a new story. And people who have never played Pokemon before won't know any better.

Because really, the story in Pokemon games isn't that important. All it has to do is introduce you to the world bit by bit, teach you the basics, and then give you plenty of opportunities to practice your catching, training, and battling skills. Then, when the story ends, the real game begins, and you're free to travel the world, filling your pokedex, hunting elusive shiny Pokemon, experimenting with different teams and movesets, battling friends, or doing whatever else you want to do.

In short: Story doesn't matter in Pokemon games.

Pokemon does not need a change. The traditional Pokemon games have been selling fine and been enjoyable and entertaining. Nintendo does not need to fix Pokemon because there is nothing wrong with it. If you have a problem with that, get an other Pokemon game like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, or Pokemon Ranger.Burning-Sludge

the TC idea is a good one, but sadly i agree with this.

if anyone played colluseum and Xd (the pkmn rpg on the cube), they would know that if pokemon strays to far from its set formula, the game suffers. 

I would however like a little bit more freedom on how i play through the game. for example choosing your starting town, have each of the gym leader's pokes levels be scaleable so you can fight them in any order, etc. if that happens, it would make the game seem more like a make your own aventure like oblivion or something :\ 

[QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]Pokemon does not need a change. The traditional Pokemon games have been selling fine and been enjoyable and entertaining. Nintendo does not need to fix Pokemon because there is nothing wrong with it. If you have a problem with that, get an other Pokemon game like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, or Pokemon Ranger.Ultima_5

the TC idea is a good one, but sadly i agree with this.

I would however like a little bit more freedom on how i play through the game. for example choosing your starting town, have each of the gym leader's pokes levels be scaleable so you can fight them in any order, etc. if that happens, it would make the game seem more like a make your own aventure like oblivion or something :\

good concept but the problem is that it would probably work better on the wii, it sounds like a mixture of the current games and a cross between XD and collesium.

A Full online game would work well, or keep the original concept and just alter it slightly, i do agree that some of the gym leaders having pokemon at level 20, is pointless, A good idea would be that you face radom battles against people from around the world before you face the gym leader as it would make the game harder.

I know they keep the same formula all the way through with small tweaks and that is because they try to link it in to the anime.

I know some people think the formula is stale, but i can't ever see nintendo change the formula, any time soon.

I do like the fact that nintendo linked my pokemon ranch to the current games, it is probably the easiest way to get mew into the new games.