Predict the power of the Wii U successor

We all know how Nintendo does things or has done things for their last two consoles. The Wii was a bit more powerful than the generation of consoles before it and had some unique strengths and the Wii U is more powerful than the consoles before it with some unique strengths. Tri-Core CPU @ 1.24Ghz, 2GB DDR3 RAM (1GB OS), 32MB eDRAM, 8-32GB flash memory, and a 550Mhz GPU. The Game Pad is the main reason why the console is sold at a loss, without it may be a profitable machine at a sub$250 or $300 price.

So we know that Nintendo goes with good hardware that is affordable to produce. The Wii for example was sold at a $40 profit at launch. So unless Nintendo invests into another $80 controller like the Game Pad their next console could likely be much cheaper to produce. A controller with a screen in it should be much cheaper to make by the time the Wii U is replaced in 2017-2018. Here's just my guess of what the specs of the Wii U successor will be (I doubt they keep the Wii U name at all) I don't claim to have a great understanding of these specs so forgive me if I make errors.

CPU: Intel PowerPC based with 8 Cores

GPU: AMD @ 1.9 Tflops

STORAGE: 64GB flash

RAM: 10GB DDR3 (2GB for OS, leaving 8GB for games)

DISC: Propeteriary 50GB discs

eDRAM: 64MB or 128MB if it is possible by then

What would you think of that for $300-ish in 2017? Post what you would like that is somewhat reasonable

Depending on how the economy is by 2020, I'd say around 3-7x as powerful as the PS4.

No idea. It's difficult to say what may be thrown into a console ten years from now. For all we know, the next system might not even have a disc drive, and solid state memory could get so cheap that Nintendo throws 500GB or more memory into the system itself. I'm not worried about it.

Entirely depends on how successful the current generation of consoles is. meetroid8

They will make a handheld imo.

I predict a HD screen, Nvidia Tegra 4 level hardware and TV connectivity.

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]Entirely depends on how successful the current generation of consoles is. starwarsjunky

They will make a handheld imo.

I predict a HD screen, Nvidia Tegra 4 level hardware and TV connectivity.

nameless12345

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"][QUOTE="meetroid8"] more like how bad the wii u fails ;)meetroid8

They will make a handheld imo.

I predict a HD screen, Nvidia Tegra 4 level hardware and TV connectivity.

nameless12345

After 3DS/2DS sales will wear off (not any time soon I suppose), they'll make another, "new" handheld that will also serve as their "home" console.

Atleast that's what I think.

Whatever's going to power the next wave of consoles doesn't exist yet.IMAHAPYHIPPO

[QUOTE="meetroid8"][QUOTE="starwarsjunky"] Well, yeah. [QUOTE="nameless12345"]

They will make a handheld imo.

I predict a HD screen, Nvidia Tegra 4 level hardware and TV connectivity.

nameless12345

After 3DS/2DS sales will wear off (not any time soon I suppose), they'll make another, "new" handheld that will also serve as their "home" console.

Atleast that's what I think.

[QUOTE="meetroid8"][QUOTE="starwarsjunky"] Well, yeah. [QUOTE="nameless12345"]

They will make a handheld imo.

I predict a HD screen, Nvidia Tegra 4 level hardware and TV connectivity.

nameless12345

After 3DS/2DS sales will wear off (not any time soon I suppose), they'll make another, "new" handheld that will also serve as their "home" console.

Atleast that's what I think.

they might just do that because wiiu is hybrid almost   , if only the gamepad was the guts it would work , ,

The big flaws in the "they'll make a handheld/console hybrid" idea is processors and media. Does it use discs or carts? Is 16GB flash memory enuff for games in the future when Wii U uses 25GB discs? The downgrade to ARM processors if its a handheld will be tremendous and not to mention no BC with Wii/Wii U and you'd lose the Virtual Console again since games would have to be re-worked for an entirely different line of processors.

Look at the other next gen consoles and they're lack of BC. Best case scenario, the next console uses another modified PowerPC processor that ups the clock speed and cores while maintaing Wii U bc

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="meetroid8"] You mean make a second handheld? :? Or that they won't make consoles anymore?mariokart64fan

After 3DS/2DS sales will wear off (not any time soon I suppose), they'll make another, "new" handheld that will also serve as their "home" console.

Atleast that's what I think.

they might just do that because wiiu is hybrid almost   , if only the gamepad was the guts it would work , ,

Unless there's a barrier for clock speed that I don't know about, they can just as well stick with the same architecture again for the CPU, maybe make it 2Ghz at most, and make it a 6-core or 8 core.  Might not need it to be an 8-core since 2 core's in the Ps4 and Xbox one are being used by the OS, but Nintendo always has seperate mini chips for things like that. 

Just to be clear, that's not all they did with the Wii U CPU (increased clock rate and add cores), they did a TON of improvements, and the same could be done for its successor.  It's a fantastic architecture with no need to change.  (and it would be significantly better than the jaguar set ups in the other 2)

The GPU, probably the same for Wii U, 2x current gen or more, and RAM could be anywhere from 8 to 12.  It'll most likely use DDR4 with eDRAM, a similar configuration to Wii U.  What it would be based on is anyone's guess, unless you can look at AMD's papers for the next 5 years, lol.

I can't make a good guess on what kind of storage it'll have, suppose it'll have flash again, but it won't have an internal hard drive, and I don't think it will have an SSD either but I could be wrong.  The blu-ray drive (esque) drive will be a 6x drive apposed to the 4x drive in Wii U, at least.  They might not want to go any faster do to noise.

There you go..  I don't think Wii U will last as long as Wii did, so we'll most likely see it in 2017.  That's when Nintendo REALLY could get the jump on the competition, since we know Sony and MS woudn't have a successor the next year.

TC, the CPU's used since the gamecube are IBM, not intel..

For shits and giggles, I wanna see Nintendo put out a console that can match the competition with its specs..just to see if third-partys and everyone put there money where there mouth is and actually nuy it/make games for it.

For shits and giggles, I wanna see Nintendo put out a console that can match the competition with its specs..just to see if third-partys and everyone put there money where there mouth is and actually nuy it/make games for it.

Bardock47

That will probably happen when the Wii U successor is released in 2017,...until the PS5 and Xbox Two come out in 2020-2021

I don't understand why people think they'll go ARM but then think it will have 8GB DDR5. Arm is tailored for mobile devices and 8GB DDR5 RAM would be pointless and overkill on anything ARM.

And if you think third party support is bad now, just imagine how bad it will be if the system uses ARM as its main processor while all other consoles at least uses somewhat traditional PC CPUs from IBM/AMD. ARM ain't gonna happen folks. 

I don't understand why people think they'll go ARM but then think it will have 8GB DDR5. Arm is tailored for mobile devices and 8GB DDR5 RAM would be pointless and overkill on anything ARM.

And if you think third party support is bad now, just imagine how bad it will be if the system uses ARM as its main processor while all other consoles at least uses somewhat traditional PC CPUs from IBM/AMD. ARM ain't gonna happen folks. 

bonesawisready5

Nintendo's next console should return them to the "more powerful is more" era of the N64 and the GameCube - it should be more powerful than whatever Sony and MS can launch. So, considering the future, I would say at least a 12-core CPU and a GPU at least twice as powerful as the PS4 and Xbox One, along with 16GB of RAM and an SSD of about 250 or 500GB since by another half a decade prices for SSD should be down and become an industry standard.

Isn't it too early to speculate on it.. we need to see what happens with the wiiu first.

Three hundred dollars for that?

No, no, no, surely you jest! Consumers wouldn't go for it if it was only that much.

CPU: Intel PowerPC based with 10 Cores

GPU: AMD @ 2.4 Tflops

STORAGE: 68 GB Flash

RAM: 12GB DDR3 (3GB for OS, leaving 9GB for games)

DISC: 55GB discs

eDRAM: 126MB

Now THAT would be a console to buy for $300!

The cpu will have 8 cores max, there are many many other improvements to be made over the ps4 cpu than just tossing more cores in there. DDR4 will be ready by then, so they'll use that kind of memory, it should be comparable or better than gddr5 speeds in an 8-12 gb configuration.

It's impossibe to say how powerful the gpu will be, but it'll depend greatly on if nintendo clings to this "as small as possible and as low power as possible" idea they have now. if they do, expect a console comparable to ps4 to how Wii u is to the 360/ps3.

Disc media and memory storage are also up in the air.

Depends if they still want to cling to the small form factor and low power consumption model. Also with the situation the Wii U is in they could do something quite different entirely making it near impossible to predict. Without just slinging things randomly to see what sticks.

On a side note: Always thought it was a little weird people don't care at all for low power consumption. Considering when I was a child my neighbors would actually limit play time to keep the electric bill low. Now people don't give a shit, seems so odd.

Exact same as gamecube to wii. It will have the same components as wii U with a new control scheme, maybe kinect like camera.

Xbox 360/PS3 had 512mb RAM

WiiU has 2 gb RAM

Xbox One/PS4 have 8Gb

Therefore:

if this pattern were to continue, the Wii U successor would have 32gb RAM, and by then that probably won't seem like much. If they launch early it might be 16gb.

If they decide to stick with how they've been doing things, that's what we should expect. If they decide they want to lose their 'underpowered' reputation, they might try for something more ambitious.

It's not that I don't give a shit about power consumption, but if low power consumption comes at the cost of everything else, the priorities are clearly messed up.

Nintendo doesn't have to make a 150 watt monster like the Ps4 is (Ps3 was 200 watts!), but 18 watts with Wii and 30-ish with Wii U is a little ridiculous. I think 70-90 watts would be a great target for starters, then they could do die shrinks further down the line (something i'm not sure Nintendo has ever done, which may be another factor to why they're so focused on keeping power down from the start). I think it's because Japan (according to Nintendo anyway) care a lot about size and power consumption, so they're not even considering the West when they make these decisions I don't think.