Problem with Widscreen with the Wii...

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#1 sonic_rusher
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Ok I have the component cables with a 50 inch LCD 1080p. When I plug them in and start the Wii up I have the setting for widescreen and 480p.

My problem is even with widscreen set it still has the big black bars. There is three setting to adjust the aspect ratio: standard, stretched, and zoomed. On standard is where the black bars are, on zoomed it fills the whole screen but I think its hurting the quality of the picture and not giving me the widescreen advantage of more to see on the screen, and zoomed pulls it out even more horizontally(i think).

The reason why i think its not taking advantage of the widescreen on stretch is that when I boot up my 360 it automatically goes to widescreen on standard, if I set it to stretch it pulls the picture beyond what the tv can show.

I know this is complicated but has anyone gotten their Wii to run in a real widescreen and not just stretching out what I believe is only 4:3 on my Wii. Thanks its just been bugging me that I have this great tv and i paid for the component cables and they are not doing what they are supposed to.

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Wii doesnt have true widescreen. All it does is just squeezes more picture into a 4:3 screen, so that it will appear correct when you stretch it. So you need to set it to stretched mode.
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Wii doesnt have true widescreen. All it does is just squeezes more picture into a 4:3 screen, so that it will appear correct when you stretch it. So you need to set it to stretched mode.hazbazz

Yeah, a Strech or Full mode.
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[QUOTE="hazbazz"]Wii doesnt have true widescreen. All it does is just squeezes more picture into a 4:3 screen, so that it will appear correct when you stretch it. So you need to set it to stretched mode.EmilioDigsIt

Yeah, a Strech or Full mode.

Are you serious? Then why do they even have a widscreen setting? When you set the widscreen setting what does it do? Does it look nicer when you stretch it out in widescreen setting then if you stretched it out in 4:3?

This is really lame if true.

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[QUOTE="EmilioDigsIt"][QUOTE="hazbazz"]Wii doesnt have true widescreen. All it does is just squeezes more picture into a 4:3 screen, so that it will appear correct when you stretch it. So you need to set it to stretched mode.sonic_rusher


Yeah, a Strech or Full mode.

Are you serious? Then why do they even have a widscreen setting? When you set the widscreen setting what does it do? Does it look nicer when you stretch it out in widescreen setting then if you stretched it out in 4:3?

This is really lame if true.


The Widescreen setting is for... drum roll please..... Widescreen TVs!
Anyways, some games give off a larger field of view in WS like Metroid Prime 3 or Galaxy. The bad part about using the Stretch or Full is that it makes the picture a tiny bit blurry. You can test this yourself by switching from a Full Screen Side Bar option to a Widescreen Stretch option.
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[QUOTE="EmilioDigsIt"][QUOTE="hazbazz"]Wii doesnt have true widescreen. All it does is just squeezes more picture into a 4:3 screen, so that it will appear correct when you stretch it. So you need to set it to stretched mode.sonic_rusher


Yeah, a Strech or Full mode.

Are you serious? Then why do they even have a widscreen setting? When you set the widscreen setting what does it do? Does it look nicer when you stretch it out in widescreen setting then if you stretched it out in 4:3?

This is really lame if true.

When you set it to widescreen mode, more picture is squeezed into the 4:3 image, so when you stretch it out, you have the full picture.

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#7 sonic_rusher
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[QUOTE="sonic_rusher"]

[QUOTE="EmilioDigsIt"][QUOTE="hazbazz"]Wii doesnt have true widescreen. All it does is just squeezes more picture into a 4:3 screen, so that it will appear correct when you stretch it. So you need to set it to stretched mode.EmilioDigsIt


Yeah, a Strech or Full mode.

Are you serious? Then why do they even have a widscreen setting? When you set the widscreen setting what does it do? Does it look nicer when you stretch it out in widescreen setting then if you stretched it out in 4:3?

This is really lame if true.


The Widescreen setting is for... drum roll please..... Widescreen TVs!
Anyways, some games give off a larger field of view in WS like Metroid Prime 3 or Galaxy. The bad part about using the Stretch or Full is that it makes the picture a tiny bit blurry. You can test this yourself by switching from a Full Screen Side Bar option to a Widescreen Stretch option.

I know what widescreen is but how is the Wii using it if its still has the huge black bars on each side. Stretching what you see doesnt let you see more. I could just as easily stretch the 4:3 image. sorry Im not good with HDTVs.

Im guessing that when you set it to widescreen you see more eventhough there are black bars? Am I right? And stretching the image doesnt really do anything but fill your TV up.

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I'm not 100% following you beacuse its early in the morning and I'm an idiot like that, but I think I know what you're talking about. Certain games will have a tiny bit of Sidebars ( better known as Pillarboxing ). Its mostly due to the original game not being fully WS compatible. Something like Okami, Brawl, and Galaxy, and Prime 3 should 100% fit the whole screen, while Virtual Console games and stuff like Umbrella Chronicles or old PS2/Arcade ports will have Pillarboxing.

Now, on huge black bars... I'm not sure. They should not be REAL huge, but like an inch or so. Is your TV 16:9 or 16:10?

Also, if you mean huge black bars on both the top and bottom, that's called Letterboxing. Basically this is done to keep the original size of a film, for example, and fit it on a 4:3 screen. Your games should not be in letterbox, unless the game going for a cinematic look.
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There is MORE image fit into a 4:3 frame when the Wii is set to widescreen. Set the Wii to 4:3 then stretch it. Compare that to when you have it set on widescreen and stretch it. The images will be completely different. The 'widescreen' image will have a wider field of view compared to the 4:3. If you stretch out the regular 4:3 image all you are going to do is distort everything in the frame. Also, if you use compnent cables the blur from stretching is not noticeable in-game.
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You have to force your tv into widescreen setting too.
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#11 sonic_rusher
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I'm not 100% following you beacuse its early in the morning and I'm an idiot like that, but I think I know what you're talking about. Certain games will have a tiny bit of Sidebars ( better known as Pillarboxing ). Its mostly due to the original game not being fully WS compatible. Something like Okami, Brawl, and Galaxy, and Prime 3 should 100% fit the whole screen, while Virtual Console games and stuff like Umbrella Chronicles or old PS2/Arcade ports will have Pillarboxing.

Now, on huge black bars... I'm not sure. They should not be REAL huge, but like an inch or so. Is your TV 16:9 or 16:10?

Also, if you mean huge black bars on both the top and bottom, that's called Letterboxing. Basically this is done to keep the original size of a film, for example, and fit it on a 4:3 screen. Your games should not be in letterbox, unless the game going for a cinematic look.
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My tv is 16:9, the huge black bars are on the left and right side of the picture. If the best setting I can get is setting the Wii to widescreen then stretching it out then I guess its okay. I just thought I was not using my investment. Someone PM me and said to ry out Mario Party 8. It has fake widscreen mode in that it fills the extra room with green side panels. He said if I can see those green panels when I have the TV set to standard and then set to stretched then I am using widscreen. But I think I can see a difference in quality anyway.

Thanks everyone for the help, I know its kinda been confusing. If you have any other info please tell me.