Rate My Legendary Pokemon (update)

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#1 sman3579
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Some of you may remember me making a topic like this, well I took the advice of some and worked on my Pokemon.

SOOOOOOOOO, I wanted to know if you can rate my Mewtwo, Lugia, Ho-oh, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina A, and Giratina O. I will list their moves, stats, and items.

The things in bold are themoves I changed. Stats may also be different, but they wont be in bold.

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MEWTWO

Moves: Flamethrower, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Shadow Ball (used to be psychic)

HP: 351, Att: 229, Def: 207, Sp A: 413, Sp D: 194, Spe: 329

Item: Choice Specs

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LUGIA

Moves: Roost (used to be Ice Beam) , Toxic (used to be psychic), Reflect, Light Screen

HP: 392, Att: 199, Def: 296, Sp A: 190, Sp D: 421, Spe: 247

Item: Light Clay

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HO-OH

Moves: Earthquake, Sacred Fire, Thunderbolt (used to be flamethrower), Fly

HP: 378, Att: 327, Def: 210, Sp A: 274, Sp D: 351, Spe: 175

Item: Life Orb

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KYOGRE

Moves: Water Spout, Thunder, Surf, Ice Beam

HP: 360, Att: 188, Def: 207, Sp A: 432, Sp D: 309, Spe: 243

Item: Choice Specs

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GROUDON

Moves: Earthquake, Stone Edge, Dragon Claw, Fire Punch

HP: 387, Att: 438, Def: 296, Sp A: 216, Sp D: 202, Spe: 180

Item: Choice Band

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RAYQUAZA

Moves: Outrage, Earthquake, Overheat (used to be Ice Beam), ExtremeSpeed (used to be Dragon Pulse)

HP: 346, Att: 411, Def: 171, Sp A: 355, Sp D: 203, Spe: 250

Item: Life Orb

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DIALGA

Moves: Roar of Time, Aura Sphere, Earth Power, Flash Cannon

HP: 360, Att: 220, Def: 279, Sp A: 378, Sp D: 244, Spe: 211

Item: Adamant Orb

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PALKIA

Moves: Spacial Rend, Surf, Aura Sphere, Earth Power

HP: 336, Att: 244, Def: 257, Sp A: 366, Sp D: 295, Spe: 230

Item: Lustrous Orb

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GIRATINA A

Moves: Protect (used to be Shadow Force), Thunder Wave (used to be Earthquake), Toxic (used to be Aura Sphere), Will O Wisp (used to be Dragon Claw)

HP: 446, Att: 245, Def: 300, Sp A: 245, Sp D: 282, Spe: 204

Item: Leftovers

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GIRATINA O

Moves: same as Giratina A old moves

HP: 478, Att: 369, Def: 235, Sp A: 275, Sp D: 218, Spe: 194

Item: Griseous Orb

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Well, what do you think?

My Lugia, Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza are the ones with different stats.

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#2 TehAwesomePwner
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Did you use AR or something?

I can't wait to get the event Arceus!

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#3 sman3579
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Did you use AR or something?

I can't wait to get the event Arceus!

TehAwesomePwner

I only used AR to get the Pokemon. I didnt action replay moves, stats, or anything else. I just used it so I could get them at the Museum, where you revive fossils.

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#4 skyeblue_orchid
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Are those your only legendaries? They are ok (I guess), but Giratina A would have been better off with it's old moves.
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#5 Colonnello
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Okay get rid of fly on ho-oh and replace it with substitute... then replace thunderbolt with roost... DEFINITELY replace roar of time with draco meteor on your dialga... Flash cannon should be replaced with brick break for coverage... running expert belt is better since u hit most things for super effective damage.... Other than that.... (please don't use Groudon and Kyogre and Rayquaza on one team... for OBVIOUS reasons....) Although your stats kinda suck... did u ev train them??? And 4 dragons on a team isn't a good idea... Oh and keep your Giratina A... it's goopd support... (I still think there's too many dragons.... )
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#6 xabu1
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first of all, stats are hard to understand, so it would be alot more helpful to put E.V. spreads and natures,

I wouldn't suggest flamethrower on mewtwo because kyogre is so common, also you have a kyogre,and that would make flamethrower weaker and I would suggest using thunder instead of thunderbolt for the same reason, and ice beam and shadow ball are good because of coverage in ubers

on lugia, roost is a good choice because lugia is a wall and no wall works without recovery. but even on walls, most carry at least one attack, so I would suggest getting rid of light screen and/or reflect for an attacking move and leftovers is a good choice on lugia because it is a wall and is supposed to take hits, leftovers helps with that

on ho-oh, ho-oh has great special wall stats so I would suggest roost, a STAB attack isn't so useful if you use a weather condition that weakens it, so I would say get rid of sacred fire and use roost instead for recovery on this wall, again, thunder over thunderbolt, but neither have much of a use, all that they cover in ubers is kyogre, and ho-oh wouldn't do much against kyogre anyways because the most comon set for kyogre (choice scarf IIRC) will outspeed this and crush it with water spout, leftovers is a better option because of ho-oh's wall stats, get rid of fly and use shadow ball, for better coverage and fly is a useless attack

reasonable moveset for kyogre, but choice scarf over shoice specs all the time on kogre, it already has enough special attack, what it lacks is speed. so don't use specs.

on rayquaza, i would sugegst using a setup move, like dragon dance or swords dance, if you will use dragon dance, get rid of extreemspeed, if you are using swords dance, get rid of overheat

on dialga, roar of time is useless, use dragon pulse or draco meteor instead, roar of time will give your opponent a free swap or a free turn to set up, and with those turns, they will crush you easily, anda STAB attack is not needed because steel is a terrible attacking type. you could try a choice scarf set of draco meteor, dragon pulse, thunder and fire blast.

on giratina A, you only need one type of status, past that, you are wasting moves, you need at least one attacking move and recovery if you are trying to stall, giratina's only recovery is rest, so I would suggest a resttalk set which would have will-o-wisp, rest,sleep talk and dragon pulse/dragon claw/outrage

on giratina - O don't use shadow force, they can swap in a wall likeskarmory who will be practically unaffected by shadow force and completely wall the set.I would suggest using a sub CM set, with substitute, calm mind, dragon pulse and shadow ball, those 2 attacks cover the most common types in ubers, psychic and dragon, and it just so happens that giratina is lucky enought to get STAB in both of those types.

and groudon's set is good

why are there 10 pokemon, I thought this was supposed to be a team, and there are groudona nd kyogre on the same team and no one else benifits from the weather conditions, I would suggest getting rid of groudon because there aren't as many pokemon that benifit fromsun in ubers and put in manaphy, a great partner for kyogre.

again, I can't completely analyze the team without EV spreads and natures, but, that is what I can say about movesets and items.

Okay get rid of fly on ho-oh and replace it with substitute... then replace thunderbolt with roost... DEFINITELY replace roar of time with draco meteor on your dialga... Flash cannon should be replaced with brick break for coverage... running expert belt is better since u hit most things for super effective damage.... Other than that.... (please don't use Groudon and Kyogre and Rayquaza on one team... for OBVIOUS reasons....) Although your stats kinda suck... did u ev train them??? And 4 dragons on a team isn't a good idea... Oh and keep your Giratina A... it's goopd support... (I still think there's too many dragons.... )Colonnello

it is fine to haverayquazaand kyogre/groudon on the same team because rayquaza doesn't get rid of the weather, it jsutremoves the effect while it isin battle, butdefinitelyget rid of one of kyogre/groudon and put more pokemon that benifit from your chosen weather condition, otherwise this isn't a team, this is just abunch of pokemon that don't even number the same as a team allows.

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#7 Cruse34
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They really need a sticky

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#8 Pugsley_91
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ehh pretty bad man i would just restart the game u ruined it
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#9 roosuu
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I could sweep most of these with my electivire. But i'll give you a 7/10.
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#10 gamedude234
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I will be honest your mewtwo sucks! give it: Aura sphere, pshycic, thunder, shadow ball.

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#11 gamedude234
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and also, do not give any pokemon draco meteor, it sucks because it weakens all of your moves(sp.)

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#12 Colonnello
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okay umm... gamedude234... Draco meteor is better than RoT because you don't need to waste the next turn (can't switch out...). It still soes more damage than RoT in 2 turns. Once you're done... SWITCH!!!! unfortuantely... none of your stats are up to scratch.... (ARe they EV trained???) The only thing I can think of that can help you overcome the bad stats are a pair of Choice specs for your Dialga.... For your Giratina A... Use the set xabu1 gave you but... I reccomend running Dragon CLaw over pulse.... (just a preference...) It has great synergy with Dialga. yeah... I agree with most of what xabu1 said.... I think getting rid of Groudon is better than Kyogre cause Rain is better than sun.... REally though... Your stats are unusually weak... BTW Roosu... Don't lie so blatantly... just don't...
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#13 sman3579
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[QUOTE="Colonnello"]okay umm... gamedude234... Draco meteor is better than RoT because you don't need to waste the next turn (can't switch out...). It still soes more damage than RoT in 2 turns. Once you're done... SWITCH!!!! unfortuantely... none of your stats are up to scratch.... (ARe they EV trained???) The only thing I can think of that can help you overcome the bad stats are a pair of Choice specs for your Dialga.... For your Giratina A... Use the set xabu1 gave you but... I reccomend running Dragon CLaw over pulse.... (just a preference...) It has great synergy with Dialga. yeah... I agree with most of what xabu1 said.... I think getting rid of Groudon is better than Kyogre cause Rain is better than sun.... REally though... Your stats are unusually weak... BTW Roosu... Don't lie so blatantly... just don't...

actually a lot of my pokemon are near max stat in 2 of their stats. dont believe me check bulbapedia
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#14 sman3579
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ehh pretty bad man i would just restart the game u ruined itPugsley_91
you are an idiot
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#15 sman3579
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thanks for the help. i have made some changes to my pokemons moves and items, like lugia, ho-oh, garitina a, and some others
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#17 dragonfly110
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for legendaries pretty average

basing it off of stats of all pokemon pretty good.

although im not gonna lie, using only my torterra, luxray and houndoom Id probably rip you apart :/

but I also spend a LOT of time on my team...

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#18 doobalol
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Ok, most of your pokemon have horrible movesets, and we cant exactly rate them without there evs ill fix em up anyway So lets start, First I suggest making mewtwos set Thunderbolt / Icebeam / shadowball / Aura sphere Lugia cant beat any steel types, change him to a Roost / Reflect / Whirlwind (you'll need it to stop him from being setup bait) / icebeam Change ho-oh to a choicebander with a moveset of Sacred fire / Earthquake / Punishment / Return Your kyogres fine Change groudon to a Earthquake / Fire punch / Dragon claw / Rock polish version after one rock polish he can easily sweep teams that arent prepared Your rayquazas fine Give dialga Dragonpulse / Draco meteor / Thunder / Aura sphere and give him a choice scarf he'll make a great revenge killer and since your worried about draco meteor and roar of time draco meteor always wins since it does more damage then a roar of time and your often going to switch out anyway. Give palkia a choice scarf and a moveset of Spacial rend /Thunder / Surf / Fire blast hes going to be a great revenge killer Make giratina a Rest / Sleeptalk / Toxic / roar or dragon pulse either way your going to be walled by steel types you need restalk since with spikes and stealthrock and toxic spikes hes going to die fast =P Make giratina-o a Substitute / Calmind / Dragon pulse / Thunder giratina-o cant really stall his counterpart giratinas much better at it
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#19 sman3579
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for legendaries pretty average

basing it off of stats of all pokemon pretty good.

although im not gonna lie, using only my torterra, luxray and houndoom Id probably rip you apart :/

but I also spend a LOT of time on my team...

dragonfly110
yeah, i dont really have the patients to come up with a good team. these are also the ones i spent the most time on so u can only imagen my other pokemon
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#20 roosuu
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I'm on the road to Viridian City! Let's go.
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#21 gamedude234
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for dialga:dragon pulse, flash canon, magnet rise, aura sphere.

for palkia: spacial rend, surf, dragon pulse, aura sphere

for lugia: psychic, reflect, toxic, roost

for kyogre: calm mind, surf, ice beam, hydro pump

for groudon: bulk up, fire punch, earthquake, rock slide/stone edge

for rayquaza: Outrage, fly, dragon claw, brick break/focus blast

for giratina o: dragon claw, shadow claw, iron head, ???

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#22 Colonnello
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Whatever you do... DONT LISTEN TO GAMESDUDE's DIALGA SET!!!!!!!! Hydropump is better than surf on kyogre due to drizzle... DONT USE FLY OR FOCUS BLAST ON RAYQUAZA!!!!! I don't know much about gira origin (it kinda fails....)
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#23 X-Remnant
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I hope your Lugia likes taunt.

Instead of listing their stats, you should list their IVs/EVs.

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#24 gamedude234
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to colonnello:? why? what is wrong with my dialga? focus blast to rayquaza destroys all weaknesses(exept dragon) fly: sorry about that, pretty stupid of me.
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#25 Colonnello
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@Gamesdude
Your Dialga set leaves something to be desired... Steel is a terrible attacking type. Anyway Fire blast takes care of steels or even brick break!! Magnet rise is useful but not so much when you've got so many flyings around... BTW his kyogre can take care of groudon :)


As for rayquaza, you're running a physical set and you're using a special move... just go with brick break... more accurate anyway...

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#26 gamedude234
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in what sense steel is a terrible attacking type? for Giratina o: aura sphere dragon claw, shadow claw, will-o-wisp.

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#27 sora3923
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mew and three legendary birds