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#1 1gecko
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These pokemon are all EV trained and are level 100 Breloom Adamant -Spore -Seed Bomb -Focus Punch -Substitute Flygon Jolly -Dragon Claw -Earthquake-Screech Cacturne Adamant -Seed Bomb -Sucker Punch -Counter Tyranitar Jolly -Crunch -Earthquake -Dragon Dance -Taunt Lucario Jolly -Close Combat -Shadow Claw -Rock Slide -Swords Dance Scizor Impish -Iron Head -Baton Pass -Agility -Roost Thats it
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#2 1gecko
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made a mistake my flygon has substitute too
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#3 Hegna1
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EV spread and IVs please and your cacturne's missing an attack (only has 3).

Just saying "EV trained" doesn't work since they have many different options for EV spreads.

Also too many physical sweepers in general, your whole team gets walled by skarmory and forretress. I don't see anything (other than taunt on T-Tar) that can stop them from setting up at all and getting you crushed. They just need to K.O. T-tar and Skarm or Forre can beat your whole team basically.

Also use the Pokemon boards or Pokemon unions next time.

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#4 1gecko
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what poke do you think i should replace and with what poke
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#5 1gecko
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oh and my cacturne also has swords dance
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#6 shamwowsavedme
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i agree with hegna, ur team revolves around types that can almostall get whooped by ice types...

4/10

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#7 pspfords
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6.5/10

your team is WAAYYYY to vulnerable to ice and fire attacks.

EVs wouldn't really make a difference in that.

take out either cacturne, or breloom. maybe both.

if you're not really following the bans and whatnot, add another powerhouse (tyranitar is your only one). garchomp salamence metagross and dragonite are good ideas. the problem that still lies is the vulnerability to ice attacks. to fix that, you can either teach most of them earthquake/stone edge, or remove scizor for a fire type.

for a fire type: charizard, magmortar, and arcanine are good candidates.

so in the end:

keep: tyranitar, lucario, flygon

remove: breloom, cacturne, scizor

add: magmortar, salamence, metagross

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#8 shamwowsavedme
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My team is pretty flippen swt!!!!!!

Infernape(100)-Close Combat, Flamethrower, Blast Burn, Rock Climb

Espeon(100)-Pyschic,Psybeam,Zen Headbutt, Shadow Ball

Glaceon(90)-Ice Beam, Avalanche, Blizzard, Strength

Blastoise(100)-Waterfall, Surf, Aqua Tail, Hydro Cannon

Aerodactyl(84)-Fly, Iron Head, Rock Slide, Giga Impact

Hitmontop(81)-Triple Kick, Close Combat, Rock Smash, Brick Break

Scale of 1-10. RATE ME!!!!!!!!!!

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#9 Hegna1
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Too many STAB moves for each of them, Espeon can't use physical attacks. EVER. Fly, once again is junk. Giga Impact and Blast Burn are just as bad for the same reason. Glaceon can't use physical attacks that well either. I don't give number ratings, just advice.

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#10 shamwowsavedme
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[QUOTE="Hegna1"]

Too many STAB moves for each of them, Espeon can't use physical attacks. EVER. Fly, once again is junk. Giga Impact and Blast Burn are just as bad for the same reason. Glaceon can't use physical attacks that well either. I don't give number ratings, just advice.

zen headbutt is a physical atk
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#11 Hegna1
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I meant you shouldn't use physical attacks. As in Espeon can't use physical attacks well. Putting a physical attack on espeon is suicide. Bad wording, but you get the idea now I take it.
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#12 Burning-Sludge
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My team is pretty flippen swt!!!!!!

Infernape(100)-Close Combat, Flamethrower, Blast Burn, Rock Climb

Espeon(100)-Pyschic,Psybeam,Zen Headbutt, Shadow Ball

Glaceon(90)-Ice Beam, Avalanche, Blizzard, Strength

Blastoise(100)-Waterfall, Surf, Aqua Tail, Hydro Cannon

Aerodactyl(84)-Fly, Iron Head, Rock Slide, Giga Impact

Hitmontop(81)-Triple Kick, Close Combat, Rock Smash, Brick Break

Scale of 1-10. RATE ME!!!!!!!!!!

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more status and less stab or Wobbuffet and Bronzong and any other tank is going to get you.

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#14 shamwowsavedme
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actualy my infrenape has flawless attack and could probably kill a bronzong using Blast Burn which since it is a fire move will get 75 point boost because of infernapes fire type, also the move will be super effective, in turn dealing out damage of about 220...

Espeon also has Flawless attack and by using shadow ball able to knock out a wobbofut in 2 hits or less

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#15 Hegna1
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actualy my infrenape has flawless attack and could probably kill a bronzong using Blast Burn which since it is a fire move will get 75 point boost because of infernapes fire type, also the move will be super effective, in turn dealing out damage of about 220...

Espeon also has Flawless attack and by using shadow ball able to knock out a wobbofut in 2 hits or less

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1st scenario : bronzong has heatproof, and proceeds to set-up since you gave it a free turn. Or it has levitate, gets K.O.ed, and their next pokemon gets a free turn. 2nd scenario: Wob uses Mirror Coat since Espeon can't use physical attacks well, Espeon faints, and Wob still has 3/4 HP thanks to its amazing HP and defenses. That's also assuming you can get the right pokemon in for those pokemon, which you can't for wob since shadow tag prevents you from switching your counter in. Also flawless attack won't help with blast burn or shadow ball.
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#16 shamwowsavedme
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[QUOTE="Hegna1"][QUOTE="shamwowsavedme"]

actualy my infrenape has flawless attack and could probably kill a bronzong using Blast Burn which since it is a fire move will get 75 point boost because of infernapes fire type, also the move will be super effective, in turn dealing out damage of about 220...

Espeon also has Flawless attack and by using shadow ball able to knock out a wobbofut in 2 hits or less

1st scenario : bronzong has heatproof, and proceeds to set-up since you gave it a free turn. Or it has levitate, gets K.O.ed, and their next pokemon gets a free turn. 2nd scenario: Wob uses Mirror Coat since Espeon can't use physical attacks well, Espeon faints, and Wob still has 3/4 HP thanks to its amazing HP and defenses. That's also assuming you can get the right pokemon in for those pokemon, which you can't for wob since shadow tag prevents you from switching your counter in. Also flawless attack won't help with blast burn or shadow ball.

Heatproof divides the fire attacks power by 2. Blast Burn=150+stab=225/2=112.5. However since the attack is super effective, it is doubled 225... My Espeon has great speed, special atk, hp, and atk. shadow ball has a chance at taking out wobbofut in two moves or less...dnt believ me, i will battle you
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#17 Burning-Sludge
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My team is pretty flippen swt!!!!!!

Infernape(100)-Close Combat, Flamethrower, Blast Burn, Rock Climb

Espeon(100)-Pyschic,Psybeam,Zen Headbutt, Shadow Ball

Glaceon(90)-Ice Beam, Avalanche, Blizzard, Strength

Blastoise(100)-Waterfall, Surf, Aqua Tail, Hydro Cannon

Aerodactyl(84)-Fly, Iron Head, Rock Slide, Giga Impact

Hitmontop(81)-Triple Kick, Close Combat, Rock Smash, Brick Break

Scale of 1-10. RATE ME!!!!!!!!!!

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How are you going to stop a Gengar? One could sweep your whole team due to how fast it is and how high it's special attack is. The only thing elce they would need is something to absorb Aerodactyl's attacks if gengar doesn't kill it when it comes in. Anyways your team has poor type coverage due to all of the overuse of stab moves, 3/10.

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#18 shamwowsavedme
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espeon has high atk in both categories and shadow ball is a super effective move against gengar...

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#19 Burning-Sludge
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espeon has high atk in both categories and shadow ball is a super effective move against gengar...

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First of all Espeon should be using Psychic agenst Gengar because it's guaranteed to do more damage because of stab, higher base power, and gengar is poison typed which is weak psychic typed attacks. Second of all Gengar and Espeon are the same speed, It would either be a toss up of who attacks who first or a fast Gengar is going to sweep it away sence you trained Espeon in attack. But they could swich to any dark type pokemon or Blissey and absorb the attack and try to damage the Infernape when it comes in and go back to Gengar when the predictable fighting type move is used.

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#20 Hegna1
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[QUOTE="shamwowsavedme"][QUOTE="Hegna1"][QUOTE="shamwowsavedme"]

actualy my infrenape has flawless attack and could probably kill a bronzong using Blast Burn which since it is a fire move will get 75 point boost because of infernapes fire type, also the move will be super effective, in turn dealing out damage of about 220...

Espeon also has Flawless attack and by using shadow ball able to knock out a wobbofut in 2 hits or less

1st scenario : bronzong has heatproof, and proceeds to set-up since you gave it a free turn. Or it has levitate, gets K.O.ed, and their next pokemon gets a free turn. 2nd scenario: Wob uses Mirror Coat since Espeon can't use physical attacks well, Espeon faints, and Wob still has 3/4 HP thanks to its amazing HP and defenses. That's also assuming you can get the right pokemon in for those pokemon, which you can't for wob since shadow tag prevents you from switching your counter in. Also flawless attack won't help with blast burn or shadow ball.

Heatproof divides the fire attacks power by 2. Blast Burn=150+stab=225/2=112.5. However since the attack is super effective, it is doubled 225... My Espeon has great speed, special atk, hp, and atk. shadow ball has a chance at taking out wobbofut in two moves or less...dnt believ me, i will battle you

You're forgetting Bronzong's rediculous Sp attack and HP, Blast Burn's not going to K.O. a full HP (or one that has taken SR damage)Bronzong with heatproof. Next, there's no way you can take a good wob out in 1 hit with espeon. It's literally impossible without a critical hit. The only pokemon that have no trouble with Wob are dark types using special attacks and ghost types using physical attacks. Your espeon is neither. Finally Espeon's base HP and Attack are 65 with caps of 334 and 251 respectively. That's not reasonable, and if you put full EVs in those two stats your SP. A and SPE would be around 296 and 256 (assuming max IVs), neither of which is that great. Anything less than 300 is an attack that will glance off a good wall, and probably won't K.O most sweepers. If you dumped EVs in speed and special attack, with a nature to boost special attack your HP and Attack would be around 271 and 166, which in no way is reasonable, so you can't consider that good. I'll prove it to you if you really want.
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#21 shamwowsavedme
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[QUOTE="shamwowsavedme"][QUOTE="Hegna1"] 1st scenario : bronzong has heatproof, and proceeds to set-up since you gave it a free turn. Or it has levitate, gets K.O.ed, and their next pokemon gets a free turn. 2nd scenario: Wob uses Mirror Coat since Espeon can't use physical attacks well, Espeon faints, and Wob still has 3/4 HP thanks to its amazing HP and defenses. That's also assuming you can get the right pokemon in for those pokemon, which you can't for wob since shadow tag prevents you from switching your counter in. Also flawless attack won't help with blast burn or shadow ball. Hegna1
Heatproof divides the fire attacks power by 2. Blast Burn=150+stab=225/2=112.5. However since the attack is super effective, it is doubled 225... My Espeon has great speed, special atk, hp, and atk. shadow ball has a chance at taking out wobbofut in two moves or less...dnt believ me, i will battle you

You're forgetting Bronzong's rediculous Sp attack and HP, Blast Burn's not going to K.O. a full HP (or one that has taken SR damage)Bronzong with heatproof. Next, there's no way you can take a good wob out in 1 hit with espeon. It's literally impossible without a critical hit. The only pokemon that have no trouble with Wob are dark types using special attacks and ghost types using physical attacks. Your espeon is neither. Finally Espeon's base HP and Attack are 65 with caps of 334 and 251 respectively. That's not reasonable, and if you put full EVs in those two stats your SP. A and SPE would be around 296 and 256 (assuming max IVs), neither of which is that great. Anything less than 300 is an attack that will glance off a good wall, and probably won't K.O most sweepers. If you dumped EVs in speed and special attack, with a nature to boost special attack your HP and Attack would be around 271 and 166, which in no way is reasonable, so you can't consider that good. I'll prove it to you if you really want.

BRING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PS:I finally got a chikorita so i dnt need urs...
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#22 the_wet_mop
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My team is pretty flippen swt!!!!!!

Infernape(100)-Close Combat, Flamethrower, Blast Burn, Rock Climb

Espeon(100)-Pyschic,Psybeam,Zen Headbutt, Shadow Ball

Glaceon(90)-Ice Beam, Avalanche, Blizzard, Strength

Blastoise(100)-Waterfall, Surf, Aqua Tail, Hydro Cannon

Aerodactyl(84)-Fly, Iron Head, Rock Slide, Giga Impact

Hitmontop(81)-Triple Kick, Close Combat, Rock Smash, Brick Break

Scale of 1-10. RATE ME!!!!!!!!!!

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like hegna, i wont give you a number score. i'll just throw in a little advice to get you going. TOO MANY OF THE SAME TYPE MOVES. what happens if i use something against blastiose that resists water? or something against hitmontop that resists fighting? same thing for glaceon and espeon. you will never catch anyone off-guard with a super effective hit, and, for the most part. will always be hitting for "not very effective" as its easy to predict what type move you'll use when you only have 1 type to choose from.

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#23 shamwowsavedme
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If i send out blastoise...and then u send out venusaur and kill my blastoise i could beat u by sending out infernape you send out pychic tytpe to face infernape i send out espeon and use shadow ball(ghost move)you send out dark type to face espeon i send out hitmontop to face dark, you send out flying to face hitmontop i send out aerodactyl and use rock slide you send out electric type then i use giga impact do to my aerodactyl's speed i can get a hit on you.. the powerful move does a reasonable amount of damage. thenim forced to send out glaceon. then there are no type advantages. but its pssible that my spd could get you with an ice beam and possibly freezing u allowing me at least two blizzards, biut if you dnt freeze who knows wat the outcome could be...i dnt no...all i kno is that i hav an advantage over jst about evry type but electric and water

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#24 Hegna1
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Which means anyone who uses electric and water could hit you pretty hard. I'll use a team where 4 of the pokemon are flying type against that team there, and I doubt it will be that bad for me.
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Use Pokemon board for pokemon discussion :)