Should nintendo make a system with just a regular controller no gimmicks or props ?

i definately think they should continue to try new things with controllers. the traditional controller is a limited dinosaur thats ill suited to the games being made today. i dont mean to bring in a non nitnendo product but bare with me: i was using the steam controller to play dawn of war 2 recently and you know what...very playable and enjoyable. after some practice i didnt think the controller was getting in the way. thats a controller playing a RTS game....well. try that with a traditional controller...its just going to be a lesson in pain and misery. the steam controller is full of what many would consider to be gimmicks.

but they need to have the games to back it up. thats why it went so badly wrong for the wiiu in the end. they had a very well implemented dual screen setup for the living room.....and they had nothing to back it up. why does it exist?

there is no point in throwing in a feature in the controller just because.

No, I already have a PC, I don't need another.

Yes.

Nintendo sometimes pulls it off with the gimmicks. I really liked the DS for example. The extra screen/ touch screen was huge. And now touch screens are common place. You can thank Nintendo for that.

As for the 3DS. . Yeah that was a backfire, I never truly believed 3D viewing was important to gaming. But Nintendo apparently did, and they payed for it. I don't know a single person who plays a game all the way through with 3D on.

And then the consoles Wii and WiiU.

For the most part I don't have a problem with the Wii, it was clever. If just overly responsive. And the WiiU. . Well. . The less I write about that the better. The games I liked. Just not the device, in any way.

Completely agree

Innovation for the sake of innovation is a losing wager, and it's one Nintendo seems intent on pursuing. If their games dictate it, I've no trouble. If their games are dictated to by it, then it's a major problem. Nintendo's got it backwards. They need to reevaluate their priorities.

What games on the Wii U were genuinely enhanced with the addition of the game pad? Nintendo came up with such an asinine gimmick and, afaic, not much excelled with its implementation. Besides Zombie U I'm having a hard time remembering anything I've played that utilized the GP in a needed fashion.

These gimmicks are not making the software better.

No one is arguing that the WiiU, as hardware, did anything to better games.

If anything it made many games more limited and unplayable. Not to mention the WiiU itself took forever to load anything.

With that stated, if the "gimmick" wasn't a random thought like the WiiU. And makes the games Nintendo is working on better? I'm up for it.

They've done it with the DS and Wii.

1000 times YES! (if only because they will never release their games on PC).

agreed

Three consoles in a row (maybe 4 if you count the DS) had a gimmick that did nothing to make game play better. How long is Nintendo going to keep implementing gimmicks for no other purpose than being different?

Yes please! Not many people were a fan of the Wii U tablet controller and not many games utilized it well anyway. The Wii had too many waggle games that mostly hindered gameplay rather than make it better. I'm so glad the Switch looks like it won't have any gimmick garbage.

Nintendo Should get with the times. Make a console with comparable tech to PlayStation and Xbox brands. But Nintendo should wait until Xbox 4 and PlayStation 5 are announced and then Nintendo should make a traditional console with regular controllers. The Nintendo Switch Pro controller is the first sign of Nintendo finally realizing that people want a good traditional controller. As much as the Switch pro controller is like an Xbox one or Xbox 360 controller in terms of layout.

But for now Nintendo is content with experimenting with their consoles. Currently with the Nintendo Switch and the Joy Con controllers. The Nintendo Switch is "kind of" a reverse Wii U. This time the tablet controller is an actual tablet with processing power. Nividia Shield level of processor in the Switch Tablet. Nintendo Switch is Nintendo once again being late to the rise of tablet gaming. The Wii U tried a tablet shaped controller with a main console dock that had the power of and Xbox 360/PlayStation 3. The Switch is a tablet with the processing power of the Nividia Shield Which is somewhat more powerful than Xbox 360/PlayStation 3. But no to the level of PlayStation 4/Xbox One.

With Xbox one Scorpio and PlayStation 4 Pro coming out. The Nintendo Switch could once again be in the same position as the Wii U. No 3rd party Support due to underpowered hardware. The Wii U started out with the promise of third party support. Which quickly died out. The Nintendo Switch is also promising strong third party support but how long will that last?

So the Switch is a reverse Wii U The home console dock has no CPU. Where last time the tablet part had no CPU in the Wii U. Now the Switch is The tablet has the processing power and the dock has no CPU. This time the gimmick is the detachable Joy-con controllers. Nintendo has united their Home and handheld First, second and third party development studies in the hope of ending game droughts. Time between game releases on Wii U was very long. While games on Xbox and PlayStation keep on coming at a steady pace.

So for now the Nintendo Switch is another experiment Switching the processing power from the part that connects to the Television to the Tablet part of the console. Nintendo will not make a traditional home console until they learn that their experiments are not the best way to go. But for now the Nintendo Switch could be the videogame machine that returns Nintendo to greatness of the 1983-1996 run of NES/Original Gameboy and Super Nintendo. The Nintendo Switch seems great on paper. But will it meet the same fate as Wii U.

Nintendo Switch is the "Could have been" Wii U reversed. But will third parties Support it?

agreed

They should keep making consoles with gimmicks, or go third party. We don't need four major platforms that all do the same thing.

thats because they try to hide the fact that their games dont change or evolve over time- all they do is try to change the way you play the same game, over and over again.

Mario now with motion controls! Donkey Kong now on a dualscreen device! Kirby now on a tablet controller! Zelda in 3D on a small ass screen!

Same games, just new gimmicky ways to play them.

Well said.

well the whole point of a console is to make good video games -__- who ever got more consistent video games should be first place

@iandizion713: A PC doesn't have Nintendo games.

I think a few did it well. ZombiU, Mario Chase, and Mario Maker come to mind. I still haven't played fatal frame but I think it might do the trick too.

What I like about the Switch is that it gives you that option. Buy the Pro controller, keep the Switch plugged in to the TV and there you have it...

... a normal game system.

They should have called it the Nintendo Metamorph or just Nintendo Morph. A missed opportunity I suppose because this is the transformer of game systems.

@iandizion713: Your pc is Nintendo?

Ok...

Bayonetta 2 looks cool on pc.....

@elitistkiller: My PC is powerful and expensive. I dont want two expensive devices. I need my PC for work though.

Definitely. Nintendo is constantly making new little gimmicks, but they don't really benefit to game play. Like the switch removable controllers are pretty sweet, but they don't really affect your game play experience. They should focus their skills more towards designing better games; the recent ones (especially Mario) seem like they were thrown together very quickly, and didn't take all that much effort (still had some creative ideas though). It looks like breath of the wild might change my opinion on that however.

u nailed it man !

I think they should stay with a gimmick controller, atleast its making gaming different. If you want a non-gimmick controller then get another system (Sony or Xbox).

@glitch-: Amen, well said. I love that theyre different. They also make amazing devices with super low power consumption.

Behave yourself.

If it wasn't for Nintendo gimmicks we would still be playing games on joysticks.

I can admire Nintendo's ideal to upend the game to an extent (though I think their hardware approach is largely dictated by corporate meekness, i.e.-afraid of competing), and there are examples of Nintendo’s hardware that’ve benefited their software. Pikmin 3 and Metroid Prime are two that I can easily acknowledge were great, and I’ll grant Splatoon among others. But from a cost vs. benefit perspective, the trade-off in what Nintendo’s gimmicks afford to their games when they work simply is not worth the risk it presents to them when they don’t. The functionality that we get is mostly superficial at best, yet the consequences to the games when things go awry can end up being disastrous (Starfox) or seriously impede the fun (Skyward Sword, DKR, Other M). I’d much sooner play all of Nintendo’s software without risk to their quality due to faulty implementation of their hardware peculiarities than have five games that grant me the most shallow of novelties and conveniences yet relegate one or two franchises I once enjoyed frustrating in the meantime.

Nintendo's hardware innovations are just not worth it.….and until Nintendo can guarantee me they can integrate them competently into their software as a collective, I’ll forever favor traditional means of playing them. To further this, Nintendo has little to no third party support (this remains to be seen with Switch, it’s promised but I’m extremely skeptical), so any screw-up from their hardware incorporation really hurts their library. Nintendo’s proven themselves incapable of not allowing their philosophy and execution of their hardware choices to diminish what they simply cannot afford to harm: their games. That is evidence enough that until they can, they shouldn't, as they don’t have all that many IPs to experiment with to unknown result.

I love that Nintendo sets itself apart from the wannabe PCs. While some gimmicks are annoying (like motion controller), I see a lot of potential in the Switchs switchable controllers.