Should Wii U get an Ambassador's Program?

The situation with the Wii U is more or less like the situation with the Nintendo 3DS during it's launch. The amount of games for the system was not the greatest, Nintendo solved this issue with the Ambassador's Program, which provided Nintendo 3DS owners with exclusive content. This not only increased sales but it gave 3DS owners content that to this day regular 3DS owners still do not have.

I think that Nintendo should announce a similar incentive with the Wii U, while the fluctuation of games is starting to kick in, there's still not really a killer app for the system and not enough interest in the system itself. An Ambassador's Program would increase interest and increase the incentive to buy the console and it would make current Wii U owners feel, well, special.

Do you guys think that an Ambassador's Program would help the Wii U?

If they did it for the 3DS, I have no idea how they couldn't do it for the Wii U given the abysmal timeframe since launch.TxTech1923

I said this exact things months ago

Yes it should, Nintendo has failed it's early adopters, they've apologized many times but there's nothing happening.

I said this exact things months ago

Yes it should, Nintendo has failed it's early adopters, they've apologized many times but there's nothing happening.

Jaysonguy

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I said this exact things months ago

Yes it should, Nintendo has failed it's early adopters, they've apologized many times but there's nothing happening.

AlwaysParagon

The problem is that everything Nintendo is talking about is down the road and people are excited.

Now, it needs games now.

What's the point? The ambassador was a big apology because the 3DS launched with no games for half a year, barebone features, way overpriced, and no eshop. I'll admit I regretted being an early adopter until the ambassador program. What is Nintendo sorry for this time around that is worthy of the same program? A couple months with no games? At this point, no, it doesn't need a program. It'll be fine once bigger games reach the system.

I'd be really happy if it did.

honestly ambassador games was a joke to me...never used any of them..

i dont care if nintendo gives me anything...

besides.. the price drop will just be 50USD i think.

the only reason 3ds got an ambassador program was because of the early price drop , there for you should not expect one for wiiu and if there was it wouldnt benefit me i already own everything on the eshop that is currently available! 

honestly ambassador games was a joke to me...never used any of them..

i dont care if nintendo gives me anything...

besides.. the price drop will just be 50USD i think.

KBFloYd

The 3DS operated in a vacuum that the Wii U does not. 

Nintendo have lost much of their caasual market due to the explosion of smart phone games and the current set of more ethusiastic games in situ, already own a current gen machine.

Nintendo's big hope, and it could work out spectacularly if they play it right, is to slash the price of the Wii U coming up to the holidays (when they should actually see some decent games coming out). They need to undercut the next gen PS4 and 720, that'll be their big and only hope.

If we see a price drop at E3 I think we will see Nintendo throw WiiU owners a bone. Whether that come in the form of a bunch of VC games or a credit on the eShop. It is hard to say, but I would be happy with either, not that I'm an unhappy WiiU owner. Monster Hunter, NSMBu and ZombiU have kept me happy.

For me, no.  I do not feel Nintendo owes anyone any free games.

Each and every one of us who bought the Wii U made the decision to pay the asking price to own the system.  We did that armed with the knowledge of the launch games and the release schedule for the upcoming months.  Granted, not all games on the schedule released, but that happens to everyone, not just Nintendo.

Look I'm not exactly thrilled with how Nintendo has supported the Wii U since its launch.  There's been a shocking neglect of games, the Wii U is in need of patching for documented freezing issues, thrid parties are jumping off the Nintnedo bandwagon at an alarming rate, and the release schedule still looks pretty damn bare in my eyes.  I feel Nintendo is archaic in its thinking; frankly, I think Nintendo needs a shakeup at HQ.

All that being said, I decided to buy this thing, and I did so knowing the next half year had litte on the schedule that I wanted, LEGO City Undercover being the only game (I don't care about Pikmin, Rayman is a $20/$30 game for me) that I knew for sure I wanted.  I bought it because of the GamePad (which I love) and the fact that I knew, eventually, Nintendo would put out quality software (Zelda, Metroid, Mario, etc.) that I would want, but that it would be a large gap in time until that software released.

So, again, no. I do not believe Nintendo owes anyone free games.  All they owe any of us is a commitment to put out games, something they have not done for the Wii U as of yet.  That does bother me, of course, but if I had that big of a problem with it I have the option of selling it and moving on, something I'm not going to do because, again, the games I want are coming.  At a snail's pace, yes, but they'll come.

I do hope Nintendo wakes up and realizes its mistakes and corrects them.  Sadly, I'm not sure with the current leadership that it will do so before all third parties, as well as  many gamers, abandon ship.

No. Be an adult and understand that being an early adopter has its risks. The Cube/Xbox/N64 all got $100 price cuts by their first E3 only 7 months after launch. Deal with it.

Don't act entitled to something. You knew the risk going in. Those launch games were still going to be there in 2013/2014/2015.

Nintendo hasn't failed any of its early adopters because they make products that consumers choose to buy, so in the end it is no one but the consumer's fault at all. If you're upset about game's getting delayed then you shouldn't have bought hardware for games that never had firm release dates and were just 'launch window'.

The 3DS price drop set an ugly precedent where people expect something out of Nintendo if the console doesn't light the sales charts on fire right away. Hopefully people will give up on this once their next-gen handheld comes out in 2015/2016/2017

No. Be an adult and understand that being an early adopter has its risks. The Cube/Xbox/N64 all got $100 price cuts by their first E3 only 7 months after launch. Deal with it.

Don't act entitled to something. You knew the risk going in. Those launch games were still going to be there in 2013/2014/2015.

Nintendo hasn't failed any of its early adopters because they make products that consumers choose to buy, so in the end it is no one but the consumer's fault at all. If you're upset about game's getting delayed then you shouldn't have bought hardware for games that never had firm release dates and were just 'launch window'.

The 3DS price drop set an ugly precedent where people expect something out of Nintendo if the console doesn't light the sales charts on fire right away. Hopefully people will give up on this once their next-gen handheld comes out in 2015/2016/2017

bonesawisready5

So then you agree that a comapny is perfectly justified not to release any sortware after launch?

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No. Be an adult and understand that being an early adopter has its risks. The Cube/Xbox/N64 all got $100 price cuts by their first E3 only 7 months after launch. Deal with it.

Don't act entitled to something. You knew the risk going in. Those launch games were still going to be there in 2013/2014/2015.

Nintendo hasn't failed any of its early adopters because they make products that consumers choose to buy, so in the end it is no one but the consumer's fault at all. If you're upset about game's getting delayed then you shouldn't have bought hardware for games that never had firm release dates and were just 'launch window'.

The 3DS price drop set an ugly precedent where people expect something out of Nintendo if the console doesn't light the sales charts on fire right away. Hopefully people will give up on this once their next-gen handheld comes out in 2015/2016/2017

Jaysonguy

So then you agree that a comapny is perfectly justified not to release any sortware after launch?

If they felt it was appropiate to maintain the quality of those delayed games, from a first party perspective, yes. Nintendo can't control what third parties do. They had no idea Ubisoft would delay Rayman. You can't blame them. What else should they do, rush Wonderful 101, Pikmin, WiiFit,etc? You're condoning rushing them.

Plus you're ignoring some eShop games in that time frame too. You're an adult, you know that consoles usually have dry spells after launch. While having no software after launch isn't ideal and isn't a great thing to have happened it is entirely justifiable if it ensures the success and improved quality of the games that were delayed that made them not release anything during that time frame.

and there'll be even less 3rd party titles after this holiday. spike6958

don't worry...3rd parties will not ditch the 360 and ps3 once the 720/ps4 come out...wiiU will continue to get 3rd party support.

Saw this thread but never replied. After downloading my 30 cent Kirby game it just dawned on me that maybe this is an ambassador program already set in place for early adopters of the Wii U. The extra points for downloads only lasts until 2014 if I remember correctly.

Saw this thread but never replied. After downloading my 30 cent Kirby game it just dawned on me that maybe this is an ambassador program already set in place for early adopters of the Wii U. The extra points for downloads only lasts until 2014 if I remember correctly.

calway55

They could easily just double or triple the points early adopters get from digital downloads as an apology if anything when the price drop happens. With the NPD data for March showing a decline in Wii U sales even with Lego/MonHun and being 5 weeks instead of 4 weeks makes me think we could get a price drop at the investors briefing this coming Wednesday. At E3 at the latest IMO

I don't think the ambassador's program had anything to do with the increased sales. New games+price drop did that. meetroid8

The ambassador program was only to make early adopters feel less screwed over for paying way more than everyone who waited a couple months. It worked for me.

I don't feel screwed over with the WiiU... yet. The delayed games would bother me if I had actually bought the console for them, but I didn't, so I don't care. If Nintendo significantly drops the price soon, though, I'll expect something to keep me happy about it. And they should do that for the fall. But at that point, I wouldn't expect an ambassador program because it will have been a full year.

And I've been actively telling people to NOT buy the WiiU yet, so I'm not a very good ambassador.

As a launch owner, I'd be happy if they did an ambassador's program but I don't think that Nintendo have to. I have been disappointed with Wii U. I was really looking forward to Rayman Legends, Pikmin 3 and The Wonderful 101. Two of those games have been delayed and the other doesn't have a concrete release date.

Still, I've been enjoying buying classic games for 30p as part of the Famicom's 30th anniversary so it's not all bad. I don't feel entitled to free games. I'm just hoping Nintendo reveal loads of games at E3 and knock it out of the park. They kinda have to.

Would they give us 10 N64 games? 

If so, they should be:

The ambassador program was only to make early adopters feel less screwed over for paying way more than everyone who waited a couple months. It worked for me.

JordanElek

It was more than that. It caused a spike in sales for Nintendo that they could show third party devs and say "Look! Someone wants it!"

If Nintendo offered a program like that you'd see a ton of people jump on board for the games and then Nintendo could go to third party devs and say "Look! Someone wants it!"

It was more than that. It caused a spike in sales for Nintendo that they could show third party devs and say "Look! Someone wants it!"

If Nintendo offered a program like that you'd see a ton of people jump on board for the games and then Nintendo could go to third party devs and say "Look! Someone wants it!"

 

Jaysonguy

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It was more than that. It caused a spike in sales for Nintendo that they could show third party devs and say "Look! Someone wants it!"

If Nintendo offered a program like that you'd see a ton of people jump on board for the games and then Nintendo could go to third party devs and say "Look! Someone wants it!"

 

JustPlainLucas

I don't think they will.

I mean come on, Nintnedo knows they screwed everyone who bought a Wii U. They've had no games for the console for months, they've delayed games, and they've been unwilling to work with devs to keep them on board until this "hey who wants a dev kit?" promotion.

I doubt Nintedno would screw up this hard again.

Would they give us 10 N64 games? 

If so, they should be:

Samus3D

It happened with the 3DS, so it COULD happen with the Wii U, though I'm not expecting it. It would be nice, but Nintendo isn't obligated to do such a thing and I don't feel that I'm entitled to such benefits when I took a risk buying the console at launch. I'm still enjoying my Wii U and I don't regret my purchase, despite the game drought.

As much as the idea of an Ambassador's Program is appealing. Nintendo does not have to offer one. The worldwide poor economy hasn't helped. The sytem needs a price cut. Which would be best for Nintendo if it happened during the time that Playstation 4 and Xbox 720 launches. November 2013?

But Nintendo should get to creating games. The Ambassador program hurt Nintendo in the way that because of a slow launch. people expect a price cut and free games.

No Nintendo should not do this.

I don't think Nintendo has to do any ambassodor programs.  Its not like many other systems haven't had software droughts after launch and the 3DS library was way worse than the Wii U at this point.  However it probably would help to do something to garner interest and boost sales at this point.  Nintendo really needs to make people interested in the system (and for some people let them know it exists).  I actually really like my Wii U and am happy I got one but Nintendo could do something to hold us over until games start coming out.  We don't really know how bad the PS4/new Xbox will hurt the Wii U until the prices are revealed but Nintendo does need to do whatever it can to take advantage of the last few months of it being the only next-gen system. 

Its not like many other systems haven't had software droughts after launch

AlmightyDerek

You know Nintendo holds the record for the longest time between retail releases right?

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Its not like many other systems haven't had software droughts after launch

Jaysonguy

You know Nintendo holds the record for the longest time between retail releases right?

You know that digital games came out in that time period? You know that you take out one or two retail releases for other systems in their first few months after launch (most of those releases unremarkable and forgettable) and the Wii U may not hold it? You know Ubisoft delayed Rayman Legends at the last minute, just as Nintendo was deciding to start producing discs for Lego City/Monster Hunter?

You know that a delayed game is (Hopefully) eventually good? Would you like Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Wii Fit U to be rushed? Yes, Nintendo shouldn't have let this happen but things went unexpectedly. You can't put all of the blame on them. They probably thought publishing Lego City/Monster Hunter in mid-March would give Rayman time to breath between releases. Things happen.

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[QUOTE="AlmightyDerek"]

Its not like many other systems haven't had software droughts after launch

bonesawisready5

You know Nintendo holds the record for the longest time between retail releases right?

You know that digital games came out in that time period? You know that you take out one or two retail releases for other systems in their first few months after launch (most of those releases unremarkable and forgettable) and the Wii U may not hold it? You know Ubisoft delayed Rayman Legends at the last minute, just as Nintendo was deciding to start producing discs for Lego City/Monster Hunter?

You know that a delayed game is (Hopefully) eventually good? Would you like Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Wii Fit U to be rushed? Yes, Nintendo shouldn't have let this happen but things went unexpectedly. You can't put all of the blame on them. They probably thought publishing Lego City/Monster Hunter in mid-March would give Rayman time to breath between releases. Things happen.

Everyting you said is false, especially this part

"You know that a delayed game is (Hopefully) eventually good?"

Duke Nukem says hello.

"You know that a delayed game is (Hopefully) eventually good?"

Duke Nukem says hello.

Jaysonguy

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"You know that a delayed game is (Hopefully) eventually good?"

Duke Nukem says hello.

JustPlainLucas

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

"You know that a delayed game is (Hopefully) eventually good?"

Duke Nukem says hello.

JustPlainLucas

Delayed games usually end up worse and in most cases feel dated to what else is out there.

I mean the guy who's doing Smash Bros doesn't work that often because he has Carpal Tunnel and Nintendo allows him not to do anything about it.

id love some free s***, but ya act like like nintendo is the only company that screwed the first people to buy their product. the truth is you bought their product, and now your lower on their list. they want new people to buy their consoles more than they want to please the people that have em (at least until sales pick up).

you didnt have to buy it, i didnt have to buy it, but we did. dont expect a pat on the head.

i liked the 3ds's ambassadors program, but it wasnt better than the almost 100$ i coulda saved. in reality, its more of in insult, but i could of waited, and i do enjoy some of the games.

also, with the 3ds they screwed us out of 70 bucks or so. so compensation is more understandable. as of now, the wii u just has few games, and giving away games does sound nice til you realize it has none.

they havent screwed us with the wii u... yet. so dont expect cookies just yet.

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"You know that a delayed game is (Hopefully) eventually good?"

Duke Nukem says hello.

Jaysonguy

Delayed games usually end up worse and in most cases feel dated to what else is out there.

I mean the guy who's doing Smash Bros doesn't work that often because he has Carpal Tunnel and Nintendo allows him not to do anything about it.

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

You know Nintendo holds the record for the longest time between retail releases right?

Jaysonguy

You know that digital games came out in that time period? You know that you take out one or two retail releases for other systems in their first few months after launch (most of those releases unremarkable and forgettable) and the Wii U may not hold it? You know Ubisoft delayed Rayman Legends at the last minute, just as Nintendo was deciding to start producing discs for Lego City/Monster Hunter?

You know that a delayed game is (Hopefully) eventually good? Would you like Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Wii Fit U to be rushed? Yes, Nintendo shouldn't have let this happen but things went unexpectedly. You can't put all of the blame on them. They probably thought publishing Lego City/Monster Hunter in mid-March would give Rayman time to breath between releases. Things happen.

Everyting you said is false, especially this part

"You know that a delayed game is (Hopefully) eventually good?"

Duke Nukem says hello.

Everything I said has some truth to it. (except the parts with my opinions)

For example, Ken's Rage came out on the eShop in late Jan/early Feb. The Cave hit the eShop in Jan.

For example, many consoles in the past have had difficult months after launch with only a handful of retail releases, most not even worth remembering. What if  SSX Blur and WarioWare: Smooth Moves, Sonic & Secret Rings had been delayed from January 2007 to March-April on Wii after it launched? The Wii U holding the record for biggest drought between retail releases is bad, but not as bad as you make it sound. Many consoles would be near its level in the past if you simply delayed two or three games an extra month.

For example, Ubisoft decides when and how to release Rayman. So Nintendo had no say in that and had every intention of it being their first retail game in TWO months in late February. Nintendo can't control that now can they?

Another truth, is that Nintendo thinking Rayman would still arrive in February probably thought that publishing Lego/MonHun in late March was a good idea so they went forward with that. By the time Rayman got delayed there was little they could do to rush the process. Had they known Rayman wouldn't make it til September back in November than I bet Lego/MonHun or something would've come out at least one month sooner.

So will you admit you'd rather have a rushed game instead of a delayed one? Even if it worsens the quality? Look,  I understand you're just pushing people's buttons coz you get kicks out of it but I'm curious to see how you could defend releasing a rushed, non-finished game like Pikmin, Wario, etc?