So how powerful are the 3DS graphics?

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#1 Dusty8
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I have heard people say that it is as powerful as a 360 (I dont think it's that good) but if heard people say its almost as good as a PS2(I know it's better then that). So anyone here know how powerful the graphics are?

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#2 NaveedLife
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Bottom line is that they are better at some things than the Wii is, such as lighting and other effects, but the poly count is probably a bit lower. I mean you can judge it for yourself, as these are probably the best graphics the system has seen thus far, and it looks better than RE4.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY-TvUKeRMM

I was actually more impressed by this video than I expected to be.

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#3 Rocky32189
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It is slightly more powerful than the Wii.
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#4 Litchie
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I'd say they're a little worse than GC's graphics. From what I've seen. People said the GBA to have PS1 graphics. Not true. People said the DS to have N64 graphics. Not true either. People say 3DS to have GC/Wii graphics. That's the closest one so far..

The Mercenaries look really really good graphically, however. Haven't seen anything in that game that makes it look less than GC quality (from recorded vids), but I believe that game only containing fairly small maps might have something to do with that.

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#5 Nick3306
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Judging by the poly count it isnt even on par with the psp.
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#6 jkinthegame
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from all the reviews they are superior to any other handheld game. As far as being that same as the xbox 360 obviously that would be a stretch heres i review i found detailing it: http://www.jkosuggests.com/nintendo3ds
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#7 deactivated-5b2b34c3a42a1
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It is slightly more powerful than the Wii.Rocky32189

What are you talking about? Its more like half-way between N64 and GC.

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#8 Nubukon
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[QUOTE="Rocky32189"]It is slightly more powerful than the Wii.ColdP1zza

What are you talking about? Its more like half-way between N64 and GC.

I've heard, more than anything, that it has capabilities beyond the NGC, and it's about on par with the Wii.

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#9 Dusty8
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[QUOTE="Rocky32189"]It is slightly more powerful than the Wii.ColdP1zza

What are you talking about? Its more like half-way between N64 and GC.

I think that's where the DS is in my opinion.
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#10 ZIVX
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Here are some screenshots of games before launch

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#11 theuncharted34
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actual power wise? it's between the ps2 and gamecube.

but graphically, however, it's around xbox/wii quality. that's only because of the lower resolution screens.

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#12 Zanoh
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Actually it's on par if not a bit higher than the gamecube.

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#13 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="ColdP1zza"]

[QUOTE="Rocky32189"]It is slightly more powerful than the Wii.Dusty8

What are you talking about? Its more like half-way between N64 and GC.

I think that's where the DS is in my opinion.

no way man. the ds is a ways away from the n64's level of graphics.

the ds is around the ps1 level. it's pretty close in fact.

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#14 Devil-Itachi
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I wasn't aware that graphics could be powerful. The 3DS however is closes to the strength of the Xbox and Wii.
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#15 LoserMike
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It'll look around the same power as a Gamecube/Wii.

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#16 19061980
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I'd like to point out that there is a big difference in the console's "power" and the graphics it can produce. The 3DS has less "power" than the Wii but Resi: Revelations looks on par with the best that the Wii has produced in four years and the 3DS isn't even out yet.

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#17 LetsPlayer
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Gamecube (remember the Gamecube was the most powerful system when it was out... and look at brawl)
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#18 theuncharted34
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Gamecube (remember the Gamecube was the most powerful system when it was out... and look at brawl)LetsPlayer

the xbox was a bit more powerful. It was pretty close though.

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#19 Nick3306
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Without the 3d i would imagine it could have been much better but for now i would say a little below the gamecube level. It might be better than the gamecube in some areas and worse in others but overall i dont think it is quite there yet since reports say its not as powerful as the psp.
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#20 dzimm
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Does it really make sense to compare system "power" when we're talking about vastly different architectures?
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2 cores at 266mhz 64mbs ram and 133mhz gpu with 4 mbs ram . in some ways its better then gc but one holds 3ds back most is its awful oly count i think it can only do like 10 million . cube has 48 mbs ram and ` 448mhz cpu but its gpu can push more polys then 3ds can .

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#22 deactivated-5b2b34c3a42a1
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[QUOTE="ColdP1zza"]

[QUOTE="Rocky32189"]It is slightly more powerful than the Wii.Nubukon

What are you talking about? Its more like half-way between N64 and GC.

I've heard, more than anything, that it has capabilities beyond the NGC, and it's about on par with the Wii.

Maybe I made a bit of an understatement, its around the level of gamecube, but definately not even close to Wii. Screenshots exagerate, watch some gameplay videos.

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#23 Nubukon
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[QUOTE="Nubukon"]

[QUOTE="ColdP1zza"]

What are you talking about? Its more like half-way between N64 and GC.

ColdP1zza

I've heard, more than anything, that it has capabilities beyond the NGC, and it's about on par with the Wii.

Maybe I made a bit of an understatement, its around the level of gamecube, but definately not even close to Wii. Screenshots exagerate, watch some gameplay videos.

Eh, that's only what I've been told anyway. The only thing I know for certain is that it's a lot better than the DS.

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#24 Leaky_Taps_Man
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Here are some screenshots of games before launch

ZIVX

Which two games are these? They look purty.

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#25 dzimm
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2 cores at 266mhz 64mbs ram and 133mhz gpu with 4 mbs ram . in some ways its better then gc but one holds 3ds back most is its awful oly count i think it can only do like 10 million . cube has 48 mbs ram and ` 448mhz cpu but its gpu can push more polys then 3ds can .dontshackzmii

While polygon counts are good for bragging rights, they also have the least impact on visual fidelity. I think texturing and especially shaders are most important in that respect.

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#26 destroyerHHH
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[QUOTE="ZIVX"]

Here are some screenshots of games before launch

Leaky_Taps_Man

Which two games are these? They look purty.

Time Travelers by Jiro Ishii (of 428 fame) and Level 5 is the first screenshot The second is a port of a PS2 RPG by the name of Tales of the Abyss.

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#27 bobbetybob
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2 cores at 266mhz 64mbs ram and 133mhz gpu with 4 mbs ram . in some ways its better then gc but one holds 3ds back most is its awful oly count i think it can only do like 10 million . cube has 48 mbs ram and ` 448mhz cpu but its gpu can push more polys then 3ds can .

dontshackzmii
But can't the 3DS do normal maps, which would negate the lower poly counts.
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#29 magitekk
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3DS's graphics are a little worse than psp graphics. Which sucks considering that was sony's last gen handheld and this is nintendo's next gen one :(

specialzed

Well, nintendo's never really been too big on graphics anyway.

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#30 Crystal-Rush
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^^^ You two posters above me are seriously in denial. In what world is the PSP graphically better than the 3DS. Even after all the pictures on the first page, you still say such things. I dont think people like you will ever reason with the truth. Considering most of these games are 1st gen releases, 3DS games already look better than the entire game library of the PSP.

And here's RE:Revelations, all in game.

Next time do some research. You'd save yourself the embarrassment.

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#31 F0urTwenty
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It's insane how good MGS looks, better then the ps2 version and better then peacewalker for sure.. I would say these games look better then xbox games to be honest...haters gonna hate.
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#32 Nick3306
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lol@ comparing gameplay footage to screen shot we have been given. As for embarrassment, its kinda embarrassing that the ngp is reaching console levels and the 3ds barley passed the original psp.
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lol@ comparing gameplay footage to screen shot we have been given. As for embarrassment, its kinda embarrassing that the ngp is reaching console levels and the 3ds barley passed the original psp.Nick3306

Despite irrefutable proof to the contrary mere posts above, one universal rule has remained constant:

Haters Gonna Hate.

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lol@ comparing gameplay footage to screen shot we have been given. As for embarrassment, its kinda embarrassing that the ngp is reaching console levels and the 3ds barley passed the original psp.Nick3306
It's written all over the wall that no matter what "level" a Nintendo console is, will still out sell anything in the market. That's embarrassing, for it to be at a lower "level" and it too still dominate everything at a higher "level".

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#35 dzimm
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its kinda embarrassing that the ngp is reaching console levels and the 3ds barley passed the original psp.Nick3306

The big difference between Nintendo and Sony as console developers is that Nintendo's consoles are designed in large part by the people who are actually going to make games for it, which is why Nintendo's systems always have great games despite being "underpowered", because they are always built with the end goal in mind which is to make a game system. Sony, on the other hand, has a team of engineers put as much horsepower under the hood as they can manage and then hope that game designers will eventually be able to do something interesting with it, which if the PSP and PS3 are any indication never really happens.

That and the NGP is most likely going to retail in the $399 range, so those "console quality graphics in a handheld" won't be cheap, meaning slower adoption by consumers meaning less incentive for developers to release games for it. Then you consider the fact that Nintendo once again has the more interesting system (glasses-free 3D, StreetPass/SpotPass, motion sensors, dual screens, etc.) and I think we're looking at another round of history repeating itself.

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[QUOTE="Nick3306"]its kinda embarrassing that the ngp is reaching console levels and the 3ds barley passed the original psp.dzimm

The big difference between Nintendo and Sony as console developers is that Nintendo's consoles are designed in large part by the people who are actually going to make games for it, which is why Nintendo's systems always have great games despite being "underpowered", because they are always built with the end goal in mind which is to make a game system. Sony, on the other hand, has a team of engineers put as much horsepower under the hood as they can manage and then hope that game designers will eventually be able to do something interesting with it, which if the PSP and PS3 are any indication never really happens.

That and the NGP is most likely going to retail in the $399 range, so those "console quality graphics in a handheld" won't be cheap, meaning slower adoption by consumers meaning less incentive for developers to release games for it. Then you consider the fact that Nintendo once again has the more interesting system (glasses-free 3D, StreetPass/SpotPass, motion sensors, dual screens, etc.) and I think we're looking at another round of history repeating itself.

Exactly right my friend. Remember when the ds and psp first came out. People was saying psp has ps2 graphics while ds has n64 with a crappy touch screen. The psp will smash the ds because of higher quality games, graphics and so on. Well Nintendo proved everyone wrong by making high quality games for the ds with great touch screen features. while the psp struggled near enough all its lifespan. Untill the very end it seems a couple of decent titles was released for it from Sony. While the ds just went on and had so many great games we all still remember today. This is exactly the same in the 3ds and psp2's case. People now saying psp2 has ps3 graphics and 3ds has gc/wii graphics. Face it everyone the 3ds is going to win and even after seeing sonys psp2 in action. (videos). I have not changed my mind at all.

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lol@ comparing gameplay footage to screen shot we have been given. As for embarrassment, its kinda embarrassing that the ngp is reaching console levels and the 3ds barley passed the original psp.Nick3306
I just provided to you proof that a 1st gen 3DS game out does the best the PSP has to offer. I'm sorry that you hate Nintendo, but the proof is out there for anyone to see. There are game-play videos, Hands-on demo's, and tons of screenshots. Furthermore, It took like 5-6 years for the PSP the get visuals like peace walker and ghosts of sparta, and MGS on the 3DS outdoes both with a 1st gen release title...There is absolutely nothing you can say to validate your shallow and ignorant argument.

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Do not bring up System Wars arguments and comparisions on this forum.
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[QUOTE="Dusty8"][QUOTE="ColdP1zza"]

What are you talking about? Its more like half-way between N64 and GC.

theuncharted34

I think that's where the DS is in my opinion.

no way man. the ds is a ways away from the n64's level of graphics.

the ds is around the ps1 level. it's pretty close in fact.

Actually the DS has better graphics than the PS1. This come from someone that have played PS1 classics on the PS3 and i see the difference.
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#40 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="Dusty8"] I think that's where the DS is in my opinion.soulreaper-4

no way man. the ds is a ways away from the n64's level of graphics.

the ds is around the ps1 level. it's pretty close in fact.

Actually the DS has better graphics than the PS1. This come from someone that have played PS1 classics on the PS3 and i see the difference.

you're probably right. it's probably right in the middle of ps1 and n64 graphics.

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[QUOTE="Nick3306"]lol@ comparing gameplay footage to screen shot we have been given. As for embarrassment, its kinda embarrassing that the ngp is reaching console levels and the 3ds barley passed the original psp.Crystal-Rush

I just provided to you proof that a 1st gen 3DS game out does the best the PSP has to offer. I'm sorry that you hate Nintendo, but the proof is out there for anyone to see. There are game-play videos, Hands-on demo's, and tons of screenshots. Furthermore, It took like 5-6 years for the PSP the get visuals like peace walker and ghosts of sparta, and MGS on the 3DS outdoes both with a 1st gen release title...There is absolutely nothing you can say to validate your shallow and ignorant argument.

Man if i hate nintendo like you claim looks like i have to smash my ds, wii and the 20+ game i have for them..... Anyway the whole point is that the 3DS barley beats the psp which was released 6 years ago. Dont call my argument ignorant when i prove a great point.
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#42 F0urTwenty
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[QUOTE="Crystal-Rush"]

[QUOTE="Nick3306"]lol@ comparing gameplay footage to screen shot we have been given. As for embarrassment, its kinda embarrassing that the ngp is reaching console levels and the 3ds barley passed the original psp.Nick3306

I just provided to you proof that a 1st gen 3DS game out does the best the PSP has to offer. I'm sorry that you hate Nintendo, but the proof is out there for anyone to see. There are game-play videos, Hands-on demo's, and tons of screenshots. Furthermore, It took like 5-6 years for the PSP the get visuals like peace walker and ghosts of sparta, and MGS on the 3DS outdoes both with a 1st gen release title...There is absolutely nothing you can say to validate your shallow and ignorant argument.

Man if i hate nintendo like you claim looks like i have to smash my ds, wii and the 20+ game i have for them..... Anyway the whole point is that the 3DS barley beats the psp which was released 6 years ago. Dont call my argument ignorant when i prove a great point.

Okay? What did you prove, and where are your "great" pounts? I don't see them, do explain.
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#43 Nick3306
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my great point is that the 3DS barley beats the psp 6 years later.
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#44 theuncharted34
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my great point is that the 3DS barley beats the psp 6 years later.Nick3306

that's a terrible and inaccurate point sir.

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#45 Nick3306
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How is it inaccurate? So one guy says "here look the 3ds is a little better than the psp" and the next guy say "No thats an invalid point"
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#46 theuncharted34
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How is it inaccurate? So one guy says "here look the 3ds is a little better than the psp" and the next guy say "No thats an invalid point"Nick3306

I'm sure you've seen all the posts in this thread correct? It must be denial then.

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#47 Nick3306
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Wait im confused, that guy showed me SS of the 3ds being a little better than the psp to prove my orginal point wrong (he did a good job), im not sure what you are trying to get at here.
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#48 FPS1337
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I would say IMO it's around the Wii level and will have in it's mainstream lifetime have xbox 360 graphics.
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#49 BreakTheseLinks
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I've owned a PSP since launch and I can say that without a doubt the 3DS smashes it terms of graphics. I'd say the leap from PSP to 3DS is about the same as DreamCast to Xbox (and no, I'm not comparing the PSP to the DreamCast nor the 3DS to the Xbox, just to be clear)...which, if you aren't a fanboy, is a pretty big leap.
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#50 dzimm
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Wait im confused...Nick3306

Now that's something we can all agree with.