So, no talk about the Zelda patent?

I may have missed something, since it's a few days old, but how come I do not find any topic about the patent (registered under the name of Miyamoto) that was made public the 8th?

This stuff right here.

You'll find reports all over the internet saying stuff like "ZOMG Nintendo going even more casual in the next Zelda, shame on them bubububuh" so if it's the first time you're hearing about this, let me prevent you from being infected by the "let's bash Nintendo and their approach" complex: it's about a hint system in which you can let the game play itself, being able to stop it at any point, if there is pre-programmed stuff for the part of the game you're stuck at. Like a built-in walkthrough.

Pretty ingenious, and I hope it was made so the next Zelda doesn't need to be dumbed down, since impatient and unexperienced Zelda gamers have this super duper hint system at hand.

I may have missed something, since it's a few days old, but how come I do not find any topic about the patent (registered under the name of Miyamoto) that was made public the 8th?

This stuff right here.

You'll find reports all over the internet saying stuff like "ZOMG Nintendo going even more casual in the next Zelda, shame on them bubububuh" so if it's the first time hearing about this, let me prevent you from being infected by the "let's bash Nintendo and their approach" complex: it's about a hint system in which you can let the game play itself, being able to stop it at any point, if there is pre-programmed stuff for the part of the game you're playing. Like a built-in walkthrough.

Pretty ingenious, and I hope it was made so the next Zelda doesn't need to be dumbed down, since impatient and unexperienced Zelda gamers have this super duper hint system at hand.

How do we know that this patent will be associated with the Legend of Zelda? Is it because of a figure of a character with a sword and a shield? In fact, no where in the patent language ever mentions the Legend of Zelda.

By the way, a surprise that Shigeru Miyamoto's name appears on the patent. This would make him an inventor, but since he is an employee, the patent would be owned by Nintendo.

How do we know that this patent will be associated with the Legend of Zelda? Is it because of a figure of a character with a sword and a shield?

malkiko

And because a screen featuring "The Legend of 00" was also there. And because Nintendo is worried about people who get frustrated playing harder games. And also because Miyamoto said Zelda needs "big, new ideas". And the fact it's taking so long for Zelda to be shown, too.

No need to be a nay sayer here. Zelda would only benefit from that, and Nintendo sure knows that.

It doesn't seem like a huge deal. It does save me a trip to GameFAQs when I'm stuck though.TAKE_IT_BACK

It is a huge deal, because casual gamers do not know about GameFAQs, and the only choice Nintendo had for them was dumbing their games down. People have been claiming a harder Zelda, and it seems Miyamoto and Zelda team (who incidentally affirmed not so long ago hardcore games will always be his specialty) give it a thought.

[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]It doesn't seem like a huge deal. It does save me a trip to GameFAQs when I'm stuck though.Wintry_Flutist

It is a huge deal, because casual gamers do not know about GameFAQs, and the only choice Nintendo had for them was dumbing their games down. People have been claiming a harder Zelda, and it seems Miyamoto and Zelda team (who incidentally affirmed not so long ago hardcore games will always be his specialty) give it a thought.

What I meant was that it isn't a big deal for me, because there are so many places I can go when I'm stuck. But I think its a great way to make Zelda more accessible and still appeal to the so-called "hardcore" audience. It seems Miyamoto found a way to please everyone.

What I meant was that it isn't a big deal for me, because there are so many places I can go when I'm stuck. But I think its a great way to make Zelda more accessible and still appeal to the so-called "hardcore" audience. It seems Miyamoto found a way to please everyone.

TAKE_IT_BACK

Well, that you don't care about it is the point of that system - it will allow the devs to add things you do care about.

It's come up before. For the record, there's no evidence that this will be an exclusively Zelda thing, or that we will even see it at all; those pictures are merely used to illustrate the concept.GabuEx

I remember that thread now, but I had no idea it was about the same patent, given the total mess this topic was. :P

Also, I'm aware it's just an illustration (and that there would be no point in using it only for Zelda, watch it become standard in adventure games). But the secrecy about the next Zelda and Nintendo's worries about casual gamers getting frustrated do make me feel like the next Zelda will feature it. It's just a win of a concept, helping the gamer while letting the game keep its flow.

As a side note, it reminds me of Prince of Persia and the "no dying" system. Devs are more and more willing to let the casuals taste the more hardcore games.

legend of OO? i think the digest system is close to the thing in ToS where you click on it and it tells you the story of what you've been doing, and where you should go. the synapse? i think thats itgarrett_duffman

As long as the Hint Button is Optional I am all right with it. TheColbert

I think that this is a great idea! I want the next zelda to challenge me.

I will never use the "hint" button. I would rather be stuck on a puzzle for 3 days then cheat

Yeah, as you said hopefully they will be able to make the game more challenging. Perhaps they could use this to make bosses easier as well, thier could be an easy and a more difficult way to kill a boss and the easy way would be described with the 'hint' function.

Hmmm, IF this is a hint system then Im guessing that the new Zelda will be VERY difficult.... Bravo Zelda team :D. Complex boss attack and damage patterns pl0x!-Oath

Oh god no the only hint system I want in my Zelda games is the Fairy or Imp nagging at me. And no I do not like my adventure games to play themselves. Keep Zelda the way it is. I would however like to see more Complax bosses though like they start understanding your attack patterns and counter iwth a new set of attacks and several different weak points that need to be shown by having the boss do something like falling off something or getting stunned or some whatever nonsense like that. Valorbrett

Oh god no the only hint system I want in my Zelda games is the Fairy or Imp nagging at me. And no I do not like my adventure games to play themselves. Keep Zelda the way it is. Valorbrett

I do not think there is a facepalm emoticon big enough for this post.

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]legend of OO? i think the digest system is close to the thing in ToS where you click on it and it tells you the story of what you've been doing, and where you should go. the synapse? i think thats itWintry_Flutist

As long as the Hint Button is Optional I am all right with it. TheColbert

I think it's a good idea. Like all have mentioned before, it's the best of both worlds.

It just makes me wonder of how it will applied to the game. The main story only? or will it be applied to it's entirety? (sidequests as an example), interesting indeed.

I'm still can't wait to see what this game will control like. Wii Sports Resort can't get here soon enough.

This system will just further integrate two aspects of gaming that have always went together, but never realized in the same product. The only difference between this and GameFAQs is that certain gamers have a stigma about using a computer while playing video games. Most of them cite the same fears of ruining their fun or feeling like they are blatantly cheating when getting help.

Because overall ignorance tells those gamers that a console is not a computer (it is), integrating the system will stave their fear and help usher in another innovation that can only be done on Wii, watching how other people beat something.

I just feel really really sorry at the hired hands Nintendo will have to use to filter out the content. I for one would rather just hire a professional actor than see this be user-created.

I simply shudder to think if Nintendo allows people to shoot themselves with a camera...I would never use the feature.

This system will just further integrate two aspects of gaming that have always went together, but never realized in the same product. The only difference between this and GameFAQs is that certain gamers have a stigma about using a computer while playing video games. Most of them cite the same fears of ruining their fun or feeling like they are blatantly cheating when getting help.

Because overall ignorance tells those gamers that a console is not a computer (it is), integrating the system will stave their fear and help usher in another innovation that can only be done on Wii, watching how other people beat something.

I just feel really really sorry at the hired hands Nintendo will have to use to filter out the content. I for one would rather just hire a professional actor than see this be user-created.

I simply shudder to think if Nintendo allows people to shoot themselves with a camera...I would never use the feature.

SirSpudly

Wasn't a hint system implemented into OoT? Why are people freaking out? It was also in Twilight princess (Midna)!! And Wind Waker (King of Red Lions)!! And Majora's Mask (Tael/Tatl..can't remember)snipe12388