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They don't want to kill the franchise
See that's the kooky thing about companies when it comes to their biggest franchise, they don't want to destroy it
Pokemon moves handhelds and is the strongest title over there.
With the DSi only keeping the DS from death when they unveil the DS 2 they'll have a Pokemon right there waiting for it. It will be the ONLY place you can get it.
If you want offshots that's where the console comes in with Pokemon. You get the console versions to fill in the missing pieces of the games.
They don't want to kill the franchise
See that's the kooky thing about companies when it comes to their biggest franchise, they don't want to destroy it
Pokemon moves handhelds and is the strongest title over there.
With the DSi only keeping the DS from death when they unveil the DS 2 they'll have a Pokemon right there waiting for it. It will be the ONLY place you can get it.
If you want offshots that's where the console comes in with Pokemon. You get the console versions to fill in the missing pieces of the games.
Jaysonguy
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]They don't want to kill the franchise
See that's the kooky thing about companies when it comes to their biggest franchise, they don't want to destroy it
Pokemon moves handhelds and is the strongest title over there.
With the DSi only keeping the DS from death when they unveil the DS 2 they'll have a Pokemon right there waiting for it. It will be the ONLY place you can get it.
If you want offshots that's where the console comes in with Pokemon. You get the console versions to fill in the missing pieces of the games.
JLF1
Pokemon was absolutely not created for the MMO ****/p>
Pokemon was created for the sole intent of one player's journey through the country seeing what Pokemon they could find
As a child the creator spent his time looking for various animals of every species (although a large chunk were insects) and seeing just how many he could find, he then made a game that shared that same method.
The only time interaction goes on is in the trade rooms where users can "show off" their collections and trade specimens
There is one underlying element in all of the Pokemon games and that's going on a journey, learning about yourself, and making the right choices along the way.
Making a MMO destroys all of that
pokemon mmo... i still dont think it will work besides, it is NOT like MHfunsohng
HAHA! look everyone Pokemon is over now, all the pokemon have been shown and well the only thing left to do is make a 3D one or an MMO...we all know it would sell mils...it would have been better if they did it before WoW...honestly Pokemon is about the only thing that could have stopped WoW...but to late now. Anyway they can't do anything else except, a console game or a MMO so it had got to happen eventually...I don't know how they are gonna do the pokemon battles though...it would have to be like pokemon stadium...which really isn't that great for battles...honestly they could do it but well it would lag horrifically with all the pokemon battles there would be...so it really isn't easy but they could still do it...not on Wii though, need a stronger console for it and they already have a pokemon for Wii.stike22
Wrong in about every possible way
Pokemon is over because we've seen them all?
Are you kidding
Pokemon is that world's animals. So far there have been just about 500 species found
Want to take a guess and how many animal species there are on Earth? I'll pick the lowest number on record, 3
Million
There are somewhere between 3 and 30 million distinct species of animal on Earth.
Is a Pokemon console game going to show up?
Of course not. If that were true they would have released one on the Gamecube when it was doing so poorly
Ha, the Wii being able to handle an MMO? Are you kidding? The ps3/360 can barely do that let alone the Wii. And Back in the times of GBC I don't even think there were more than like 2 or 3 mmo's. Nobody wanted an MMO of anything until the last 3 years or so, now they've suddenly gotten huge.
And there already is a pokemon MMO, unofficial of course called Pokemon: Den of Ages. Although it would be pretty fun, it would get stale very very quick. And here are some good reasons I can come up with
1) Pokemon would not make a good MMO due to its gameplay.
Pokemon always has been a turnbased game, and have you ever seen any turn based MMOs? I doubt it and there's a good reason why. Having Isolated battles kind of ruins the MMO feel and anyways, why not just have a pokemon battle lobby, it would work the same.
2) The ponit of Pokemon has always been to win all the gym battles and beat the elite four.
Gym battles are a 1 on 1 thing and making gym battles like raids in WoW, it wouldn't be pokemon anymore. That's just not how it works.
3) Pokemon itself is more of an independant affair.
If there was a pokemon MMO, you would just be playing alone but with other people walking around. Battles are not done as a group, and multiple people cannot catch the same pokemon so you'd be playing alone but there would just be people walking around you.
Pokemon was absolutely not created for the MMO ****/p>
Pokemon was created for the sole intent of one player's journey through the country seeing what Pokemon they could find
As a child the creator spent his time looking for various animals of every species (although a large chunk were insects) and seeing just how many he could find, he then made a game that shared that same method.
The only time interaction goes on is in the trade rooms where users can "show off" their collections and trade specimens
There is one underlying element in all of the Pokemon games and that's going on a journey, learning about yourself, and making the right choices along the way.
Making a MMO destroys all of that
Jaysonguy
Well obviously the formula would have to be altered in many ways, but it would still be pokemon at it's core. I remember there was a great thread about this back at the Nintendo Nsider forums. Some guy had a genius idea about a new continent being discovered and all the trainers setting out to settle it. The thread was so awesome I can't even begin to describe the idea, but suffice to say that it got hundred upon hundreds of replies and everyone loved it.Ha, the Wii being able to handle an MMO? Are you kidding? The ps3/360 can barely do that let alone the Wii. And Back in the times of GBC I don't even think there were more than like 2 or 3 mmo's. Nobody wanted an MMO of anything until the last 3 years or so, now they've suddenly gotten huge.
And there already is a pokemon MMO, unofficial of course called Pokemon: Den of Ages. Although it would be pretty fun, it would get stale very very quick. And here are some good reasons I can come up with
1) Pokemon would not make a good MMO due to its gameplay.
Pokemon always has been a turnbased game, and have you ever seen any turn based MMOs? I doubt it and there's a good reason why. Having Isolated battles kind of ruins the MMO feel and anyways, why not just have a pokemon battle lobby, it would work the same.
2) The ponit of Pokemon has always been to win all the gym battles and beat the elite four.
Gym battles are a 1 on 1 thing and making gym battles like raids in WoW, it wouldn't be pokemon anymore. That's just not how it works.
3) Pokemon itself is more of an independant affair.
If there was a pokemon MMO, you would just be playing alone but with other people walking around. Battles are not done as a group, and multiple people cannot catch the same pokemon so you'd be playing alone but there would just be people walking around you.
ColdP1zza
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]Pokemon was absolutely not created for the MMO ****/p>
Pokemon was created for the sole intent of one player's journey through the country seeing what Pokemon they could find
As a child the creator spent his time looking for various animals of every species (although a large chunk were insects) and seeing just how many he could find, he then made a game that shared that same method.
The only time interaction goes on is in the trade rooms where users can "show off" their collections and trade specimens
There is one underlying element in all of the Pokemon games and that's going on a journey, learning about yourself, and making the right choices along the way.
Making a MMO destroys all of that
JLF1
Then you're not talking Pokemon
I mean why fit something that is not at all like you're saying into a different mold?
Why not start a new franchise?
First of all Pokemon and animals on earth have very little relation except looks. Second pokemon will never be able to go to million pokemon that would be stupid and few people would bother with it. third they cannot keep going on with these versions...its seriously dead now...pokemon Red, Blue, Gold, Silver...and the rest of them...whats next? black and white...Pokemon is dying, its not like Mario it can't keep going forever. Fourth they have done everything the only options left are 3D Adventure or MMO...only options left. Fifth pokemon isn't making half as much as it used to.stike22
Your'e an idiot, Pokemon Diamond/Pearl is the best selling game on DS.
[QUOTE="stike22"] third they cannot keep going on with these versions...its seriously dead now...pokemon Red, Blue, Gold, Silver...and the rest of them...whats next? black and white...Pokemon is dying, its not like Mario it can't keep going forever. Head_of_gamesPokemon is far, very far, from death. There will always be a new set of kids who will love it for years while those of us who have been fans since the start will have become bored with it long, long, long ago. Is it selling like it used to? NO. so its dead...or dying would be more correct...of course kids will always love it...but just because a series is still going doesn't mean its not dead...just that kids still take interest in it and its slowly dying...series can't go on forever...well Mario can but Mario and Pokemon are completely different. Pokemon as a game needs something new or it will die and only kids will get it...MMO or 3D adventure.
First of all Pokemon and animals on earth have very little relation except looks. Second pokemon will never be able to go to million pokemon that would be stupid and few people would bother with it. third they cannot keep going on with these versions...its seriously dead now...pokemon Red, Blue, Gold, Silver...and the rest of them...whats next? black and white...Pokemon is dying, its not like Mario it can't keep going forever. Fourth they have done everything the only options left are 3D Adventure or MMO...only options left. Fifth pokemon isn't making half as much as it used to.stike22
1. Please tell me you're kidding
2. I'm glad that you think the jump is from 500 to one million. The other funny thing is that people said the series could never go larger then 150
3. They think up new titles, they're titles. For some reason you think making a title is difficult. I also hate to break it to you but Pokemon destroys Mario by far. Nintendo gets more sales and more money from Pokemon then it does from Mario.
4. They haven't do everything
5. Pokemon is making more then it ever has. There's a reason why it's Nintendo's number one franchise
Ruby and Sapphire on the GBA over 5 years = 15.4 million
Diamond and Pearl in just under 2 years = 16.67 million
Pokemon Diamond and Pearl also outsold Ruby and Sapphire the first week by half a million per region
I love how people say Pokemon is dead and other things against it. It's stronger then it's ever been and makes more money for Nintendo then any other franchise
[QUOTE="stike22"]First of all Pokemon and animals on earth have very little relation except looks. Second pokemon will never be able to go to million pokemon that would be stupid and few people would bother with it. third they cannot keep going on with these versions...its seriously dead now...pokemon Red, Blue, Gold, Silver...and the rest of them...whats next? black and white...Pokemon is dying, its not like Mario it can't keep going forever. Fourth they have done everything the only options left are 3D Adventure or MMO...only options left. Fifth pokemon isn't making half as much as it used to.ColdP1zza
Your'e an idiot, Pokemon Diamond/Pearl is the best selling game on DS.
Yeh on DS!...as I said series eventually die of they keep doing the same thing...we all have to grow up sometime. Don't be such fanboys I am not saying Pokemon is crap I am saying its boring doing the same thing again and again...it will die if it carries on...IT NEEDS SOMETHING NEW! ask yourselves is pokemon selling better now or before? yeh we all know it was doing much better before.Then you're not talking Pokemon
I mean why fit something that is not at all like you're saying into a different mold?
Why not start a new franchise?
Jaysonguy
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]Then you're not talking Pokemon
I mean why fit something that is not at all like you're saying into a different mold?
Why not start a new franchise?
JLF1
The stadium games not so much, they're "expansions" of the regular game on the handheld
A place to hone your team and pick up a few exclusive trinkets while you're at it
You have a better argument with the Dungeon series but that's a game of literal self discovery that you figure out yourself.
Same goes for ranger
The entire franchise (no matter the iteration) is built on playing it solo
You all seem quite stubborn that Pokemon is still the best thing in the world so I won't bother arguing anymorestike22
That's because you keep on saying it's doing poorly for some reason and I have to correct you each time and explain that the franchise is stronger now then it ever was.
[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]Then you're not talking Pokemon
I mean why fit something that is not at all like you're saying into a different mold?
Why not start a new franchise?
Jaysonguy
The stadium games not so much, they're "expansions" of the regular game on the handheld
A place to hone your team and pick up a few exclusive trinkets while you're at it
You have a better argument with the Dungeon series but that's a game of literal self discovery that you figure out yourself.
Same goes for ranger
The entire franchise (no matter the iteration) is built on playing it solo
[QUOTE="stike22"]You all seem quite stubborn that Pokemon is still the best thing in the world so I won't bother arguing anymoreJaysonguy
That's because you keep on saying it's doing poorly for some reason and I have to correct you each time and explain that the franchise is stronger now then it ever was.
Again can't be bothered to argue but well, first of all I didn't say Pokemon is crap I said its dying doing the same thing and eventually things that do the same thing over and over die unless they do something new...Pokemon is way overdue for something new...the franchise Pokemon was much stronger before when the cartoon, the movies, the cards, the games and everything else was still a fad...only kids do half that stuff anymore...its not as great as it was, that doesn't mean it isn't successful but it isn't no way near as good as it was. Honestly the question is what is Pokemon gonna do continue as it is and slowly die? or actually come up with something original and continue its success? it only has one choice...I personally don't care for MMO but it really is the only option left, they have to do it eventually.[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="stike22"]You all seem quite stubborn that Pokemon is still the best thing in the world so I won't bother arguing anymorestike22
That's because you keep on saying it's doing poorly for some reason and I have to correct you each time and explain that the franchise is stronger now then it ever was.
Again can't be bothered to argue but well, first of all I didn't say Pokemon is crap I said its dying doing the same thing and eventually things that do the same thing over and over die unless they do something new...Pokemon is way overdue for something new...the franchise Pokemon was much stronger before when the cartoon, the movies, the cards, the games and everything else was still a fad...only kids do half that stuff anymore...its not as great as it was, that doesn't mean it isn't successful but it isn't no way near as good as it was. Honestly the question is what is Pokemon gonna do continue as it is and slowly die? or actually come up with something original and continue its success? it only has one choice...I personally don't care for MMO but it really is the only option left, they have to do it eventually.I'm glad you feel that way, that's your opinion and it's as different as each snowflake is different then each other. It makes you a very special person.
That being said your opinions are not facts and therefore are incorrect when talking about the viability of the franchise
Pokemon Diamond and Pearl are selling million more then any other Pokemon title in history so far and Platinum looks to sell even better.
That's not counting the movies that pull in huge ratings on TV and sell well in the stores, the TV show that still pulls in great numbers, and the card game that STILL goes strong a decade after it caught fire.
That means Pokemon is in more people's homes then ever before and people want even more of Pokemon on the way.
What you're saying is wrong. I'm glad that you're done with the series but the number that are not are bigger then ever before
Jason, what about a game like Pokemon Battle Revolution, but on a grander scale? Like, a game where you bring your Pokemon that you've collected (from the handheld titles) to an open world (like Pokemon Ranch but not crappy), and you meet other players there (playing online) and challenge them into battle?
Isn't that kind of what the series is all about, except that you play computer players by yourself? Why not bring it to an online world? You could battle people, but you could also meet people and hang out and play poke-pool on a poke-table in a pub.
As far as I'm concerned, the series is already set up for something like that, they just need to do it.
Jason, what about a game like Pokemon Battle Revolution, but on a grander scale? Like, a game where you bring your Pokemon that you've collected (from the handheld titles) to an open world (like Pokemon Ranch but not crappy), and you meet other players there (playing online) and challenge them into battle?
Isn't that kind of what the series is all about, except that you play computer players by yourself? Why not bring it to an online world? You could battle people, but you could also meet people and hang out and play poke-pool on a poke-table in a pub.
As far as I'm concerned, the series is already set up for something like that, they just need to do it.
bob_newman
They have something like that in Platinum
READ HERE
I have no problem fleshing out the Pokemon centers because that's where the real mingling goes on, it's what it weas designed for.
[QUOTE="bob_newman"]Jason, what about a game like Pokemon Battle Revolution, but on a grander scale? Like, a game where you bring your Pokemon that you've collected (from the handheld titles) to an open world (like Pokemon Ranch but not crappy), and you meet other players there (playing online) and challenge them into battle?
Isn't that kind of what the series is all about, except that you play computer players by yourself? Why not bring it to an online world? You could battle people, but you could also meet people and hang out and play poke-pool on a poke-table in a pub.
As far as I'm concerned, the series is already set up for something like that, they just need to do it.
Jaysonguy
They have something like that in Platinum
READ HERE
I have no problem fleshing out the Pokemon centers because that's where the real mingling goes on, it's what it weas designed for.
Ok, see, this is what I mean. Only, why can't it be on a console? You'd still have to buy the game on the handheld to play it and collect the pokemon, but why not have an add-on (or expansion, if you will) for consoles as well? I think it would be great. I would actually consider buying a Pokemon game if they had something elaborate like that. And it's basically an MMO, only it's more of a concept like Sony's "Home", where you can hang out, play some little games like bowling, pool, etc. (of course, you'll use pokeballs instead of bowling/pool balls), and battle in tournaments and stuff. I think it would work, but at the same time it would keep the main series off of the consoles like you want.They don't want to kill the franchise
See that's the kooky thing about companies when it comes to their biggest franchise, they don't want to destroy it
Pokemon moves handhelds and is the strongest title over there.
With the DSi only keeping the DS from death when they unveil the DS 2 they'll have a Pokemon right there waiting for it. It will be the ONLY place you can get it.
If you want offshots that's where the console comes in with Pokemon. You get the console versions to fill in the missing pieces of the games.
Jaysonguy
what do you mean "keeping the ds from death" how is the ds close to death its sold far more than psp or any other handheld and its a success and your acting like the DSi is going to save the ds... from what? the DS has had its life and it was a huge hit
[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]Indeed, the franchise is a perfect fit for an MMO. It would breath new life into pokemon and be a system seller. I'm sick off horrid console pokemon games, let there be Pokemon MMORPG!!!DJ2Cool
this guy knows what he's talking about 8)
If you want to diminish someone's importance, put DJ in front of their name: "DJ Abraham Lincoln."[QUOTE="Head_of_games"][QUOTE="stike22"] third they cannot keep going on with these versions...its seriously dead now...pokemon Red, Blue, Gold, Silver...and the rest of them...whats next? black and white...Pokemon is dying, its not like Mario it can't keep going forever. stike22Pokemon is far, very far, from death. There will always be a new set of kids who will love it for years while those of us who have been fans since the start will have become bored with it long, long, long ago. Is it selling like it used to? NO. so its dead...or dying would be more correct...of course kids will always love it...but just because a series is still going doesn't mean its not dead...just that kids still take interest in it and its slowly dying...series can't go on forever...well Mario can but Mario and Pokemon are completely different. Pokemon as a game needs something new or it will die and only kids will get it...MMO or 3D adventure.
It isn't dying its only improving and I don't need a reinventing, I'm happy with the small tweaks and features they keep adding. And just because you got old and moved on doesn't mean the kids younger than you didnt't. Its still a fad to them.
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