or has nintendo simply forgotten about it?
IIRC, only AC and the conduit use it. but they came out a good while ago
are they just waiting for 2010 to unleash it's full potential :D?
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nintendo did way too many (IMO, useless-) peripherals. I have the same felling as you about the balance board, wheel, zapper, and maybe even the M+. and now theyre even releasing this vitality sensor thing which looks like it wont be worth the $$jwhitmore12I didn't even know about the vitality sensor it looks completely useless. As for Wii Speak not many games Wii actually use it much.
nintendo did way too many (IMO, useless-) peripherals. I have the same felling as you about the balance board, wheel, zapper, and maybe even the M+. and now theyre even releasing this vitality sensor thing which looks like it wont be worth the $$jwhitmore12M+ just came out and its already been used in a number of games and will be used in more come next year. The Wheel is a little plastic shell that you didn't pay for and that you can use on any racing game you want, its the same with the zapper, you can use it for rail shooters and its a piece of plastic that doesn't actually do anything. I would hardly count either of those as peripherals. A bunch of games use the balance board so that is not even worth bringing up. Wii Speak well its not like Nintendo has had 15 online games come out since the launch of Wii Speak, I don't think they have had any as a matter of fact. If 3rd party games use it, thats up to them. But Nintendo is using it for thier next online title Endless Ocean and Capcom is last I heard using it for Tri. To be honest I don't know why people feel the need to buy all this stuff, the only thing I own that didn't come with the console are my games. The only peripheral I will buy is M+ because it actually does something game related and the classic controller for TvC and VC games.
and like someone else said above, the wii might be cheaper but these peripherals add up. a complete controller - wii remote, nunchuk, and motionplus - will set you back more than 90 dollars.kyle2k5No it won't. The combo will set you back $55.
[QUOTE="kyle2k5"]and like someone else said above, the wii might be cheaper but these peripherals add up. a complete controller - wii remote, nunchuk, and motionplus - will set you back more than 90 dollars.psychobrewNo it won't. The combo will set you back $55. wal-mart sells the black wii remote with M+ for 49.96 and the nunchuk for 19.96... lets round that to 50 and 20 and you've got 70 bucks there. A normal wii remote + nunchuk combo alone is 60 plus WM+ is an additional 25 bucks... so 85. even USED the wii remote and nunchuk combo is 48 dollars... then add the 25 for motion plus is STILL 73 bucks... maybe you're thinking of just the wii remote and M+ combo that has been going on sale with the black wii remote.
[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="kyle2k5"]and like someone else said above, the wii might be cheaper but these peripherals add up. a complete controller - wii remote, nunchuk, and motionplus - will set you back more than 90 dollars.garrett_duffmanNo it won't. The combo will set you back $55. wal-mart sells the black wii remote with M+ for 49.96 and the nunchuk for 19.96... lets round that to 50 and 20 and you've got 70 bucks there. A normal wii remote + nunchuk combo alone is 60 plus WM+ is an additional 25 bucks... so 85. even USED the wii remote and nunchuk combo is 48 dollars... then add the 25 for motion plus is STILL 73 bucks... maybe you're thinking of just the wii remote and M+ combo that has been going on sale with the black wii remote. Micro Center (a computer store with 22 locations in America) sells refurbished Wii Remotes for 20 dollars and refurbished Nunchucks for 10 dollars. The MotionPlus is 20 dollars.
[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="kyle2k5"]and like someone else said above, the wii might be cheaper but these peripherals add up. a complete controller - wii remote, nunchuk, and motionplus - will set you back more than 90 dollars.garrett_duffmanNo it won't. The combo will set you back $55. wal-mart sells the black wii remote with M+ for 49.96 and the nunchuk for 19.96... lets round that to 50 and 20 and you've got 70 bucks there. A normal wii remote + nunchuk combo alone is 60 plus WM+ is an additional 25 bucks... so 85. even USED the wii remote and nunchuk combo is 48 dollars... then add the 25 for motion plus is STILL 73 bucks... maybe you're thinking of just the wii remote and M+ combo that has been going on sale with the black wii remote.
You can get Wii Motion Plus for $10 with a game you're going to buy anyway (if you're not planning on buying a game you need Motion Plus for, you wouldn't need buyingit would be pointless). You can find a Wii Remote for $40 at Amazon.com and a Nunchuck there sells for $13 right now. So the entire combo can be had for $63, and I'm sure you could do better if you shopped around.
[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="psychobrew"] No it won't. The combo will set you back $55.savebatterywal-mart sells the black wii remote with M+ for 49.96 and the nunchuk for 19.96... lets round that to 50 and 20 and you've got 70 bucks there. A normal wii remote + nunchuk combo alone is 60 plus WM+ is an additional 25 bucks... so 85. even USED the wii remote and nunchuk combo is 48 dollars... then add the 25 for motion plus is STILL 73 bucks... maybe you're thinking of just the wii remote and M+ combo that has been going on sale with the black wii remote. Micro Center (a computer store with 22 locations in America) sells refurbished Wii Remotes for 20 dollars and refurbished Nunchucks for 10 dollars. The MotionPlus is 20 dollars. Wow. The entire combo can be had for $40. BTW, Gamespot is the only place that seels the stand alone Wii Motion Plus for $25. Most places sell it stand alone for $20 or less.
What Nintendo SHOULD do is enable the use of BlueTooth Ear pieces. The Wii does have Blutooth.
and my Wii Speak got chewed up. (I'm sad)
Nintendo is all about fleecing people for peripherals and other unutilized/useless crap.
Siting a small handful of games that are compatible is a joke. The whole idea of Wii Speak is something that should have been part of the console at launch, and used/usable with every game that is playable on-line.
My wife's sister just got Wii Sports Resort and everyone (everyone being her parents who bought it for her) was excited to play together/against each other...but were quickly disappointed when they discovered that they needed to buy multiple Wii Motion Plus attachments just to do that.
For Wii Motion Plus Nintendo could have upgraded the sensor bar itself somehow (yes they could have, to say they can't is ignorant).
All these minor "upgrades" at such a ridiculously high price is a joke. Wii Speak is paying for something that is already equiped in the console. What do you think Blue Tooth is?
For Wii Motion Plus Nintendo could have upgraded the sensor bar itself somehow (yes they could have, to say they can't is ignorant).
All these minor "upgrades" at such a ridiculously high price is a joke. Wii Speak is paying for something that is already equiped in the console. What do you think Blue Tooth is?
lol ok so how do they do that? Also bluetooth means sending data via radio waves, I don't even know what that last statement is suppose to mean. Even if you just mean it could use some kind of headset instead of Wii Speak, well unless you live somewhere where bluetooth devices grow on tree's, you still have to buy them.For Wii Motion Plus Nintendo could have upgraded the sensor bar itself somehow (yes they could have, to say they can't is ignorant).
chefstubbies
The sensor bar has nothing to do with motion controls. It's for IR pointing only. The motion sensors are inside the Wii remot itself. Wii Motion Plus just adds more motion sensors to the controller. If they added the motions sensors to the sensor bar, the sensors wouldn't be able to detect your motion.
[QUOTE="chefstubbies"]
For Wii Motion Plus Nintendo could have upgraded the sensor bar itself somehow (yes they could have, to say they can't is ignorant).
goblaa
No it is. The sensor bar is just two light bulbs.
I honestly thought your sig was part of your reply to the quote. M+ hasn't been utilized enough, but take a look at games like Tiger Woods. It enhances that game by over 9000. The M+ makes the game completely better in every way possible.Ya know, Nintendo has been depending on other companies to incorporate it into their games. But none have other than a few. I have already sent many angry emails to infinity ward, treyarch, and activision about not having it in Modern warfare.nintenjoe3How is Modern Warfare going to make use of it?
[QUOTE="chefstubbies"]lol ok so how do they do that? Also bluetooth means sending data via radio waves, I don't even know what that last statement is suppose to mean. Even if you just mean it could use some kind of headset instead of Wii Speak, well unless you live somewhere where bluetooth devices grow on tree's, you still have to buy them.For Wii Motion Plus Nintendo could have upgraded the sensor bar itself somehow (yes they could have, to say they can't is ignorant).
All these minor "upgrades" at such a ridiculously high price is a joke. Wii Speak is paying for something that is already equiped in the console. What do you think Blue Tooth is?
Sepewrath
Wow (lol)...how can I explain this so you can understand what I am getting at?
First, the Wii uses Bluetooth technology in its connectivity and since Bluetooth is commonly used to conect things like a cel phone and a hands free device...the Wii is already capable of connecting things like the console itself and a hands free device. :o
Second, (aside from your hilarious tree growing comment) why would anyone buy a Bluetooth device for a console that already is Bluetooth equiped?:?
Lastly, mabye I should have been clearer in that Wii speak is nothing more than a speaker instead of a headset, and as far as I am concerned they are virtually the same thing and since they are the same the Wii should come packaged with it free of charge like other un-named consoles instead of gouging it's costumers.
[QUOTE="chefstubbies"]
For Wii Motion Plus Nintendo could have upgraded the sensor bar itself somehow (yes they could have, to say they can't is ignorant).
psychobrew
The sensor bar has nothing to do with motion controls. It's for IR pointing only. The motion sensors are inside the Wii remot itself. Wii Motion Plus just adds more motion sensors to the controller. If they added the motions sensors to the sensor bar, the sensors wouldn't be able to detect your motion.
Obviously the sensor bar currently is for IR pointing only. I am well aware of that.:roll:
However as it states clearly in my post, Nintendo could have "upgraded" the sensor bar "somehow". Nintendo has been working on it (Wii) for years, but you expect me to believe that the sensor bar is as cutting edge as their technology is and ever will be? Give me a break.
The amount of people defending the blatant nickel and diming Nintendo does with their peripherals is shocking, but Nintendo loves it because that's what lines their pockets.
[QUOTE="psychobrew"]
[QUOTE="chefstubbies"]
For Wii Motion Plus Nintendo could have upgraded the sensor bar itself somehow (yes they could have, to say they can't is ignorant).
The sensor bar has nothing to do with motion controls. It's for IR pointing only. The motion sensors are inside the Wii remot itself. Wii Motion Plus just adds more motion sensors to the controller. If they added the motions sensors to the sensor bar, the sensors wouldn't be able to detect your motion.
Obviously the sensor bar currently is for IR pointing only. I am well aware of that.:roll:
However as it states clearly in my post, Nintendo could have "upgraded" the sensor bar "somehow". Nintendo has been working on it (Wii) for years, but you expect me to believe that the sensor bar is as cutting edge as their technology is and ever will be? Give me a break.
The amount of people defending the blatant nickel and diming Nintendo does with their peripherals is shocking, but Nintendo loves it because that's what lines their pockets.
So tell me exactly how you suppose they do that. Sure, they could scrap their current technology and do something like Natal (which, by the way, Nintendo said they rejected), but then we're talking about a sensor bar that's going to cost much, much more than a couple of Wii Motion Plus add ons and the Wii's hardware probably wouldn't be powerful enough to support something like natal anyway.[QUOTE="chefstubbies"][QUOTE="psychobrew"]
The sensor bar has nothing to do with motion controls. It's for IR pointing only. The motion sensors are inside the Wii remot itself. Wii Motion Plus just adds more motion sensors to the controller. If they added the motions sensors to the sensor bar, the sensors wouldn't be able to detect your motion.
psychobrew
Obviously the sensor bar currently is for IR pointing only. I am well aware of that.:roll:
However as it states clearly in my post, Nintendo could have "upgraded" the sensor bar "somehow". Nintendo has been working on it (Wii) for years, but you expect me to believe that the sensor bar is as cutting edge as their technology is and ever will be? Give me a break.
The amount of people defending the blatant nickel and diming Nintendo does with their peripherals is shocking, but Nintendo loves it because that's what lines their pockets.
So tell me exactly how you suppose they do that. Sure, they could scrap their current technology and do something like Natal (which, by the way, Nintendo said they rejected), but then we're talking about a sensor bar that's going to cost much, much more than a couple of Wii Motion Plus add ons and the Wii's hardware probably wouldn't be powerful enough to support something like natal anyway.This isn't System Wars, please don't begin comparing specified consoles.
Anyhow...why would an upgrade mean scrapping their current technology? But if they did something like that for whatever reason, you would be right, it would cost more than a couple of remote add-ons.
But isn't that kind of the point? What all these minor add-ons remind me of is what Nintendo has done with the DS. First the DS, then the DS lite, now the DSi...and what's around the corner?...the DSi large(or whatever it's name is.)
Again, people that defend that conduct are exactly what lines Nintendo's pockets.
[QUOTE="psychobrew"]
[QUOTE="chefstubbies"]
For Wii Motion Plus Nintendo could have upgraded the sensor bar itself somehow (yes they could have, to say they can't is ignorant).
chefstubbies
The sensor bar has nothing to do with motion controls. It's for IR pointing only. The motion sensors are inside the Wii remot itself. Wii Motion Plus just adds more motion sensors to the controller. If they added the motions sensors to the sensor bar, the sensors wouldn't be able to detect your motion.
Obviously the sensor bar currently is for IR pointing only. I am well aware of that.:roll:
However as it states clearly in my post, Nintendo could have "upgraded" the sensor bar "somehow". Nintendo has been working on it (Wii) for years, but you expect me to believe that the sensor bar is as cutting edge as their technology is and ever will be? Give me a break.
The amount of people defending the blatant nickel and diming Nintendo does with their peripherals is shocking, but Nintendo loves it because that's what lines their pockets.
But the thing is, it pointer is one of the parts of the wiimote that's already woking fine. Tilt and point work great on the wii, it's directional movement that doesn't. And that's exactly what the WM+ helps with.
[QUOTE="chefstubbies"]
[QUOTE="psychobrew"]
The sensor bar has nothing to do with motion controls. It's for IR pointing only. The motion sensors are inside the Wii remot itself. Wii Motion Plus just adds more motion sensors to the controller. If they added the motions sensors to the sensor bar, the sensors wouldn't be able to detect your motion.
goblaa
Obviously the sensor bar currently is for IR pointing only. I am well aware of that.:roll:
However as it states clearly in my post, Nintendo could have "upgraded" the sensor bar "somehow". Nintendo has been working on it (Wii) for years, but you expect me to believe that the sensor bar is as cutting edge as their technology is and ever will be? Give me a break.
The amount of people defending the blatant nickel and diming Nintendo does with their peripherals is shocking, but Nintendo loves it because that's what lines their pockets.
But the thing is, it pointer is one of the parts of the wiimote that's already woking fine. Tilt and point work great on the wii, it's directional movement that doesn't. And that's exactly what the WM+ helps with.
Good point. I just feel that motion plus makes the Wii remote do what it should have at launch.
Natal is very related to the technology your looking for and is relavent to this conversation. You said they should have put the motion technology in the sensor bar. I'm asking you how do you suppose they'd do that without scrapping the current motions controls which the entire system was built around, and was even nice enough to give you an example. I never said one technology was better or anything really system wars worthy.
Anyhow...why would an upgrade mean scrapping their current technology? But if they did something like that for whatever reason, you would be right, it would cost more than a couple of remote add-ons.chefstubbies
The technology was built around motion sensors inside the remotes. If you wanted something built in to the sensor bar, it would require a completely new system with completely different technology. Obviously, the current tech can be upgraded because it already has been upgraded with motion plus, butif you want a different kind of upgrade so each remote doesn't need the add-on, then the current system would have to be scrapped because it wasn't designed for any other method of motion control.
But isn't that kind of the point? What all these minor add-ons remind me of is what Nintendo has done with the DS. First the DS, then the DS lite, now the DSi...and what's around the corner?...the DSi large(or whatever it's name is.)chefstubbies
Sure, there's a bunch of add-ons that you can buy, but that's your choice. If you don't think the accessories are worth the money, you don't need to buy them. Personally, I think some of them add a new dimension to console gaming that can't be found on any other system. Having said that, i don't buy every accessory and when I do, I usually look for it on sale somewhere.
Again, people that defend that conduct are exactly what lines Nintendo's pockets.
chefstubbies
I don't think Nintendo is out to get me and I'm sorry that offends you. They are a business, and with any business, their goal is to make money. If they don't make money, they won't be a business for long. I have no doubt that Nintendo wants to line their pockets (as they should want to), but I also have no doubt that they want their customers to enjoy their products.
wal-mart sells the black wii remote with M+ for 49.96 and the nunchuk for 19.96... lets round that to 50 and 20 and you've got 70 bucks there. A normal wii remote + nunchuk combo alone is 60 plus WM+ is an additional 25 bucks... so 85. even USED the wii remote and nunchuk combo is 48 dollars... then add the 25 for motion plus is STILL 73 bucks... maybe you're thinking of just the wii remote and M+ combo that has been going on sale with the black wii remote.[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="psychobrew"] No it won't. The combo will set you back $55.psychobrew
You can get Wii Motion Plus for $10 with a game you're going to buy anyway (if you're not planning on buying a game you need Motion Plus for, you wouldn't need buyingit would be pointless). You can find a Wii Remote for $40 at Amazon.com and a Nunchuck there sells for $13 right now. So the entire combo can be had for $63, and I'm sure you could do better if you shopped around.
aah of course... because buying a game for 60 dollars with M+ works that way...Natal is very related to the technology your looking for and is relavent to this conversation. You said they should have put the motion technology in the sensor bar. I'm asking you how do you suppose they'd do that without scrapping the current motions controls which the entire system was built around, and was even nice enough to give you an example. I never said one technology was better or anything really system wars worthy.
[QUOTE="chefstubbies"]
The technology was built around motion sensors inside the remotes. If you wanted something built in to the sensor bar, it would require a completely new system with completely different technology. Obviously, the current tech can be upgraded because it already has been upgraded with motion plus, butif you want a different kind of upgrade so each remote doesn't need the add-on, then the current system would have to be scrapped because it wasn't designed for any other method of motion control.
[QUOTE="chefstubbies"]
But isn't that kind of the point? What all these minor add-ons remind me of is what Nintendo has done with the DS. First the DS, then the DS lite, now the DSi...and what's around the corner?...the DSi large(or whatever it's name is.)psychobrew
Sure, there's a bunch of add-ons that you can buy, but that's your choice. If you don't think the accessories are worth the money, you don't need to buy them. Personally, I think some of them add a new dimension to console gaming that can't be found on any other system. Having said that, i don't buy every accessory and when I do, I usually look for it on sale somewhere.
Again, people that defend that conduct are exactly what lines Nintendo's pockets.
chefstubbies
I don't think Nintendo is out to get me and I'm sorry that offends you. They are a business, and with any business, their goal is to make money. If they don't make money, they won't be a business for long. I have no doubt that Nintendo wants to line their pockets (as they should want to), but I also have no doubt that they want their customers to enjoy their products.
You seem intent on discussing the XBOX 360's Project Natal for whatever reason. I could care less about Natal. (any discussion on one board discussing another console does in fact belong in system wars according to when I was modded for this very reason)
I don't apreciate having bought 2 remotes @$29.99 each and 2 nanchuks @$24.99...and if that weren't enough, now I need to buy 2 Motion Plus @$24.99. I'm aware that the fanboy mindset is to blindly give whatever cash Nintendo demands, but I find it frustrating and unrealistic. It wouldn't surprise me if within 2 years Nintendo releases Wii Motion Plus 2.
Anyway, you clearly have a more advanced grasp of the internal technology that the Wii isn't capable of, so I'm not going to argue something I apparently know very little about.
Out of curiosity though, why do you feel it offends me that you don't think Nintendo is out to get you? Actually, why would Nintendo be out to get anybody for that matter?
But back to the topic about Wii Speak:
Yeah...another periferal.
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