Subspace Emissary: yes or no?

If you're a Smash Bros player, you know that Brawl had a pretty epic adventure mode in comparison to Melee. I personally loved it; what I didn't like though was how once you beat the adventure mode, you had nearly the whole character roster unlocked. This may not be an issue (and perhaps preferrable) for most of you, but one thing I loved about Melee was the challenge of unlocking all the secret characters. Am I the only one with this opinion?

I loved the epic adventure mode in Brawl, but it wouldn't have been possible with only default fighters. For the next Smash, do you think it would be strange to play as characters in adventure mode that you would not yet have access to in VS mode? Because I honestly think that is how I would like the next game to be.

Thoughts?

It wasn't perfect, but I found Brawl's adventure mode to be worthwhile. It was a respectable attempt to make the SSB world a beat-em-up as a single player experience. And unlike you, I found the ability to unlock the hidden characters a welcome attraction. I like unlocking stuff, but I'd much rather have all of the characters come to in one single-player adventure than have to grind out matches/hours to get a certain character (Mewtwo in Melee). That's not challenging so much as it is time-consuming.

That said, I'm not sure if a Subspace Emissary-like mode should happen again with the next SSB. I think the development should be able to find a balance between Melee and Brawl's adventure modes and offer something that solo players can enjoy, regardless of how much time he/she is willing to invest into it. In other words, nothing too long or is required to replay for every character, but something that's still replayable and doesn't require the time for a full-playthrough. Maybe I'm asking for too much, though...

And unlike you, I found the ability to unlock the hidden characters a welcome attraction.

Madmangamer364

but one thing I loved about Melee was the challenge of unlocking all the secret characters.

conkertheking1

I didn't even like the SSE all that much. It was just an okay action game at best... What did it in for me was the fact that you had to trudge through the massive level at the end which was just rehashing all the other levels. Just wasn't that much fun to me.

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And unlike you, I found the ability to unlock the hidden characters a welcome attraction.

conkertheking1

but one thing I loved about Melee was the challenge of unlocking all the secret characters.

conkertheking1

I was referring by playing through Subspace Emissary and unlocking the characters, as opposed to just how you unlocked them in Melee. Sorry if that didn't make much sense.

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but one thing I loved about Melee was the challenge of unlocking all the secret characters.

Madmangamer364

I was referring by playing through Subspace Emissary and unlocking the characters, as opposed to just how you unlocked them in Melee. Sorry if that didn't make much sense.

what I didn't like though was how once you beat the adventure mode, you had nearly the whole character roster unlocked. This may not be an issue (and perhaps preferrable) for most of you, but one thing I loved about Melee was the challenge of unlocking all the secret characters. Am I the only one with this opinion?

conkertheking1

I agree. However, unlocking Mewtwo and Game & Watch in Melee was overkill.

I really only found SSE fun while in Co-op with a higher difficulty. The mode lacked soul. Melee's adventure mode was short, but sweet. But it lost its novelty after a couple of playthroughs trying to unlock the characters.

I finished SSE, but I got no enjoyment out of it. Create interesting level designs for an adventure mode, balance the characters, fix the online mode or scrap them altogether.

It was fun but ultimately a waste of time, the next Smash can do without it. I played it once and never went back to it but everything else in the game was great.

a solid SSBB player like me deserves what the featurette offers,finish the game to unlock nearly all the essentials(I know most of you don't want that "last person to join") took me 2 months because I need stickers to make things easierSmashbrossive50

How are you a solid SSBB player if you needed stickers to make it easier? Just lower the difficulty a bit.

[QUOTE="Smashbrossive50"]a solid SSBB player like me deserves what the featurette offers,finish the game to unlock nearly all the essentials(I know most of you don't want that "last person to join") took me 2 months because I need stickers to make things easierturtlethetaffer

How are you a solid SSBB player if you needed stickers to make it easier? Just lower the difficulty a bit.

when it comes for difficulty,always start with easy,I beat it with less fuss. I don't like Mario being the whole hero of the adventure(in my gameplay experience,he doesn't use stickers at all,and I used him as a human shield instead)

easy to intense...they have their payouts...I like it easy to hard(only few stages I can go with hard)

I think I liked the story behind it more than the gameplay, actually.

I would say it is a good option to provide some entertaining single-player gameplay in a game that is not at all focused on it. It just needs a few tweaks.

Complete garbage

This is what happened

You have a roster of characters with all different strengths and weakness, Mario is a jumper, Sonic is fast, Yoshi....does whatever a useless dog does.

The levels had to be built for everyone and that means they were all pure rubbish, unimaginative wastes of time that serves no purpose at all.

The problem is that you can't switch it up and make levels that play into character's strengths because who wants to play that? 

"Hey it's awesome to go really fast though here, let me choose Mario so I can slog through this level" No, you just play as Sonic.

"This level has plenty of things to cut down with a sword, let's choose Kirby!" You pick Link or Captain Fire Emblem.

The story itself wasn't bad but everything else to do with it made Smash Bros worse.

I liked the story, I loved the boss battles, and I REALLY enjoyed the cutscenes (The Great Invasion was so epic). The gameplay was meh and I hope they improve it in the next Smash Bros Single Player Mode.

I would also like less filler. The Subspace Emissary could have ended when they found Tabuu. The final 30-40% of it felt redundant.

I liked the story, I loved the boss battles, and I REALLY enjoyed the cutscenes (The Great Invasion was so epic). The gameplay was meh and I hope they improve it in the next Smash Bros Single Player Mode.

I would also like less filler. The Subspace Emissary could have ended when they found Tabuu. The final 30-40% of it felt redundant.

ANIMEguy10034

Complete garbage

This is what happened

You have a roster of characters with all different strengths and weakness, Mario is a jumper, Sonic is fast, Yoshi....does whatever a useless dog does.

The levels had to be built for everyone and that means they were all pure rubbish, unimaginative wastes of time that serves no purpose at all.

The problem is that you can't switch it up and make levels that play into character's strengths because who wants to play that? 

"Hey it's awesome to go really fast though here, let me choose Mario so I can slog through this level" No, you just play as Sonic.

"This level has plenty of things to cut down with a sword, let's choose Kirby!" You pick Link or Captain Fire Emblem.

The story itself wasn't bad but everything else to do with it made Smash Bros worse.

Jaysonguy

Don't bother. Make a short adventure mode like from Melee and be done with it. Its a fighter, they should spend more time focusing on and balancing the fighting mechanics and making the best fighting game they can

It was okay. Wasted potential that could have been a lot more though. Most levels were boring and uninspiring. Enemies felt generic and bland. The story felt like a terrible fan fiction. And to me, the lack of voice acting (For characters that can actually talk) during cut scenes was definitely annoying (Should have been more interaction between characters instead of handshakes and gestures..). The only thing that was entertaining about Subspace Emissary was the boss battles....tocool340

[QUOTE="tocool340"]It was okay. Wasted potential that could have been a lot more though. Most levels were boring and uninspiring. Enemies felt generic and bland. The story felt like a terrible fan fiction. And to me, the lack of voice acting (For characters that can actually talk) during cut scenes was definitely annoying (Should have been more interaction between characters instead of handshakes and gestures..). The only thing that was entertaining about Subspace Emissary was the boss battles....nini200

Don't bother. Make a short adventure mode like from Melee and be done with it. Its a fighter, they should spend more time focusing on and balancing the fighting mechanics and making the best fighting game they can

VendettaRed07

It was a decent addition. It could definitely use some refinement though.

[QUOTE="nini200"][QUOTE="tocool340"]It was okay. Wasted potential that could have been a lot more though. Most levels were boring and uninspiring. Enemies felt generic and bland. The story felt like a terrible fan fiction. And to me, the lack of voice acting (For characters that can actually talk) during cut scenes was definitely annoying (Should have been more interaction between characters instead of handshakes and gestures..). The only thing that was entertaining about Subspace Emissary was the boss battles....tocool340

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[QUOTE="nini200"] Off Topic, would you happen to be a Gungrave man as well?nini200

maybe but replace the stickers whit a RPG stats system.