Super Smash Bros 64 vs Melee vs Brawl

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#1 Brawl578
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64 vs Melee vs Brawl

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#2 Shinobishyguy
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Melee > brawl > 64

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#3 blankshore
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This is pretty pointless. They all have the same gameplay, but Brawl has more characters, stages, everything. I don't really think its a fair contest.

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#4 ZumaJones07
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It's almost like time stood still here. :lol:
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#5 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Melee. There's no contest.
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#6 Pikminmaniac
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I picked Brawl, but I love all the games. the original layed down the basic concept of the game. Melee added a bunch more mechanics such as air dodging and spot dodging, but had many glitches. Brawl basically solidified that gameplay for a much more polished experience.

Oh yeah, Brawl has Olimar so no contest LOL

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#7 TheColbert
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I think Brawl is the best followed my Melee and 64. If SSB64 ever comes to the VC I will get it though. I remember it had some fun stages to play on.
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#8 jmangafan
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Going to tip the hand to Brawl here, it plays more solidly, has more characters, create a stage, the best single player of the 3, its just all around the better game.

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#9 Jerell_rast
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Brawl basically solidified that gameplay for a much more polished experience.

Oh yeah, Brawl has Olimar so no contest LOL

Pikminmaniac
This pretty much nailed it. I've been playing Melee since day one but never touched it again after brawl came out.
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#10 thetravman
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Huh? Brawl of course since it's the latest installment. More characters, collectables, levels, more of everything. Gameplay is pretty much the same as Melee but with no mechanic glitches (nothing find yet anyway).

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#11 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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Melee > brawl > 64

Shinobishyguy

Well,this thread ended quickly.Melee definitely takes the cake for me.

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#12 NeutralDamage
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From competitive point of view, I find Melee waaaaay better than Brawl. Melee has combos, no Metaknight, no tripping and better physics engine. In Brawl, you almost always have to play defensively to win = long and boring matches. Plus in Brawl there is really no way to kill you under 100% because of ridiculous DI and so small hitstun.
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#13 craigalan23
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I have enjoyed all of the games but i liked Melee a little more than Brawl. I played it a lot more than Brawl also maybe i just played melee too much? I am unsure all i know is that i got bored of Brawl quickly as i played Melee for over a year without even slightly getting bored.

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#14 Head_of_games
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Melee = better for competitive players that care a ton about winning, and often go on final destination with no items and only the best characters. Brawl = better for the average gamer who just wants to have a ton of chaotic fun.
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#15 awssk8er716
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I never really liked the series...

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#16 garrett_duffman
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Melee > brawl > 64

Shinobishyguy
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#17 Boomarley
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I felt Melee was a bigger leap for the series overall, which made Brawl's lack of innovation tint my view of it a bit. I was also not happy with how they gimped the single-player mode by removing the special bonuses.

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#18 stike22
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Melee seriously it was the best one, the first one was great in its time but when I think to Melee and how long people played that for it was just the best one, Brawl was good but as many people have said there were problems with it.
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#19 Shinobishyguy
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melee's got the gameplay

Brawl's got the content and characters.

64 is skimpy on both fronts.

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#20 Serraph105
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This is pretty pointless. They all have the same gameplay, but Brawl has more characters, stages, everything. I don't really think its a fair contest.

blankshore
actually the first one is missing things like shield and dodge and several other things. So Melees faster paced action versus the many new editions of Brawl. I'm going with Brawl due to everything they have added in plus its a much more balanced game.
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#21 Serraph105
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I felt Melee was a bigger leap for the series overall, which made Brawl's lack of innovation tint my view of it a bit. I was also not happy with how they gimped the single-player mode by removing the special bonuses.

Boomarley
in my mind the level creator and story mode make up for the special bonuses. I do miss them however.
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#22 FFCYAN
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This is pretty pointless. They all have the same gameplay, but Brawl has more characters, stages, everything. I don't really think its a fair contest.

blankshore

I think you can look at it as to how much you enjoyed playing each game rather than what is the best in technical terms. So.....

SSB>SSBM>SSBB

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#23 deactivated-5e90a3763ea91
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I feel that 64 had the best 'balance' in gameplay and wasn't oversaturated, so therefore I still think it is the best Smash Bros. game. In second place is Melee, which is arguably the mpst fun SB game, and has a good variety of gameplay modes and new features, even if it feels somewhat unbalanced and oversaturated at times. Brawl is kinda messy, unorganized and has poor online, and the character roster could have been better, and things still seem somewhat unbalanced/could be better, but the graphics are the tops.

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#24 Mike885
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Obviously Brawl, Melee, and then 64. Brawl is an improvement from melee in everyway including taking out those stupid glitches from melee the nerds cried about. Melee also was a great improvement from 64 for improving upon what 64 had.

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#25 deactivated-5e90a3763ea91
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="Boomarley"]

I felt Melee was a bigger leap for the series overall, which made Brawl's lack of innovation tint my view of it a bit. I was also not happy with how they gimped the single-player mode by removing the special bonuses.

in my mind the level creator and story mode make up for the special bonuses. I do miss them however.

special bonuses were the bread and butter of arcade mode. Why they left that part out is beyond me.
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#26 deactivated-5e90a3763ea91
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Obviously Brawl, Melee, and then 64. Brawl is an improvement from melee in everyway including taking out those stupid glitches from melee the nerds cried about. Melee also was a great improvement from 64 for improving upon what 64 had.

Mike885
what glitches?
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#27 hackeylax76
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obviously brawl is the best, but i picked 64 because it's the one i had the most fun with. Also, it had some of the best stages in the series in my opinion.

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#28 Head_of_games
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[QUOTE="Mike885"]

Obviously Brawl, Melee, and then 64. Brawl is an improvement from melee in everyway including taking out those stupid glitches from melee the nerds cried about. Melee also was a great improvement from 64 for improving upon what 64 had.

Ovirew
what glitches?

Exploits, glitches, whatever. You know what He's talking about: Wavedashing and all that.
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#29 huntervaneg
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Melee. There's no contest.siLVURcross

Yup, I agree with u man... Those who played Melee seriously -using all the glitches such as wavedash- should know this truth. No offense to Brawl lovers, but Melee glitches gave deepness tot his jewel.

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#30 jirca87
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SSB64 > Melee > Brawl.

SSB was simple enough and concentrated enough that back when I lived in dorms friends could pick it up after several years of notplaying it and still be good after just a couple of rounds. It also had the best levels in my opinion and the best balance in characters.

Melee, while fun, had some very cheap aspects to it. It's nerfing of original characters and introduction of essentially cloned characters for the sole purpose of increasing the character count hurt it.

Brawl had a good single player and the most characters. Other than that, it pales in comparison to both SSB and Melee in every way in my opinion.

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brawl! never play other smash bros game

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#32 sam_nintendo
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For a few months I have been playing between 1 and 3 hours of Smash 5 days a week, with several other players playing the same amount. In that time we started with 64 moved to melee then brawl then back to melee. After this I will side with Brawl, the controls are much smoother and the games seem to move faster. People complain about poor balance, but I have noticed that among equally skilled players there is no character that gives a distinct advantage, nor is there any item that guarantees a win.

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#33 Hun_ger
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I love Melee, when it came out I played it the whole time of the gamecube lifespan But when I played Brawl it dissapointed me but eh it grew on me so I will say Brawl is better.
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#34 Darkmagcite
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They're all similar. Brawl has the most depth and the online play, while not the greatest, helps, but Melee was a huge leap for the series it seemed and I do miss Adventure Mode. Subspace is nice, but it doesn't have the same "pick up and play" adventurous element that Adventure Mode had in Melee.
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#35 chargingcable
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il i liked melee it just seemed to never get old.

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#36 ozzsoad
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Brawl by far. Anytime I'm in the mood to play Smash Bros. I always go for that one and not the other two. It improved on Melee in every way in my opinion. Better adventure mode, fun new characters, custom stages, more collectibles...never had many problems with online, but I've always said this kind of game is much better with friends in the same room. Brawl all around is superior to the previous games, and I've been playing since the original first released.
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#37 nintendo_geek64
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Melee is probley the funniest brawl gets boring fast.
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#38 nolan-
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I can see people choosing Melee over Brawl. If nothing else but the fact that Melee was a huge leap for the series, whereas Brawl is basically Melee on steroids (which I couldn't be happier with, because I don't think the formula needed any sweeping changes). But in my opinion, Brawl took everything great about Melee and made it that much better. So undoubtedly Brawl is my favourite. The next SSB game is going to have to do something significantly different in order to advance the series, because I think Brawl is as close as they can get right now to perfection. I don't think many people will be voting for the original. Even if you do have fond memories of it or something, it's hard to argue that Melee is so much better in every conceivable way.
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#39 nintendo_geek64
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[QUOTE="nolan-"]The next SSB game is going to have to do something significantly different in order to advance the series, because I think Brawl is as close as they can get right now to perfection.QUOTE] I thought that brawl was the last game in the Smash Bros. even the commercial said the brawl to end them all.
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#40 Hungry_Jello
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If were talking competitive gameplay than melee but everything else brawl does 10x better than melee or 64. Brawl has an actual story ( a crappy one but still at least there is a plot), more stages, waay better soundtrack, more characters, and online. Melee can't top this.

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#41 intro94
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well both melee and brawl had tournaments where the players limited themselves to few (6-7)characters, which is sad in a fighting game(compared to SF4-KOF where champions use bottom tiers regularly),but while the bottom tiers of melee never stood a chance in high end tourneys, in Brawl they can still pull out surprises.Of course, glitchy mechanics where less present in Brawl, and it did not make melee more competitive, as some characters lacked pretty much wavedash(like Bowser in melee-that mechanic was useless for him,making it yet another disadvatage).So since few characters could benefit from the glitches that were not intended, the game disbalanced even more.The faster pacing tho made Melee a tad more agressive,and combolike.But combos yet again were deal breakers, as some professional players could start a combo at very low percentages and pretty much kill a target from the start asuming the first hit landed.Cancels were just partially retired, but the auto cancels were introduced. And unlike melee, launching power is important, making it balanced in that sense.Before it didnt really matter ,since ganondorf(slow character) had pretty much the same launching power than the nimble Fox(making him slower for no reason).While in Brawl slower characters do have a much stronger launching power under 100%,balancing it somewhat.It was a step in the right direction nonetheless,and the improved visuals and characters added to the mixture into an overall more complete game.Personally im retired from the tournament circuits(hence you dont see me here talking much about brawl topics),but i managed some good positions with a duper low tier.Im just playing for fun tho.
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#42 snow-cones
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I enjoy the characters on Brawl, seriously, Solid Snake on that game is just pure awesome. Melee is actually my least favorite. I would play Brawl before Melee and the N64 one, and Melee before the N64 one, but Melee wasn't as good to me as the N64 one was when it was released.
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#43 ParkCarsHere
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People will probably remember SSB 64 as their favorite because of all the fun we had with friends playing together. However, I think in terms of quality, SSBB >> Melee >> SSB64. I think this is kind of an unfair comparison, however, because the gameplay is SO similar between the games that it is hard to find any real discernible differences between them, aside from character and map changes.