The Legend of Zelda Wii- Story

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#1 yaljarani
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It needs to be more EPIC and larger in scope. Imagine a huge seige of hyrule, with link attacking deep into the lines of the enemy and discovering what he needs to defeat them through the classic dungeons. The dungeons are controlled by the bosses that you usually face and aren't just there for no reason.

An epic battle with tons of enemies, kinda like something of helms deep or minas tirith from lord fo the rings. It'd be awesome if in that battle you could actually use all of the items that you aquired in your quests. With huge beasts in the battle to accompany the troops of regular baddies. Zelda could be ensnared by evil and you could bring her back to the light, and back to goodness.

Ganandorf, or some new villian (maybe someone who's been in control of Ganandorf all along) could be at the helm of this invasion and Link could be put in a position where he would have to choose to save either Zelda or all of hyrule...now that's EPIC.

And a new coop mode...just kidding.

Your thoughts on what the next Legend of Zelda story should have...

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#3 LoG-Sacrament
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for the longest time, i havent been able to put my finger on that "nintendo charm", but ive finally figured it out. its the sheer simplicity. their stories are never anything very deep (rescue the princess, blah blah blah), but they always keep some sort of human aspect to them. whether its mario's general philanthropy or link's courage, nintendo's stories keep it simple: good vs. evil. if the next zelda game became just another LotR copy (as much as i do love LotR) with a vast story and nearly unending cast of characters, it just wouldnt be zelda.

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#4 yaljarani
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for the longest time, i havent been able to put my finger on that "nintendo charm", but ive finally figured it out. its the sheer simplicity. their stories are never anything very deep (rescue the princess, blah blah blah), but they always keep some sort of human aspect to them. whether its mario's general philanthropy or link's courage, nintendo's stories keep it simple: good vs. evil. if the next zelda game became just another LotR copy (as much as i do love LotR) with a vast story and nearly unending cast of characters, it just wouldnt be zelda.

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I can see where you're coming from. Don't add peanut butter and jelly to an already delicious slice of bread, but the bread only stays fresh for so long.

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You think the real villian is Ganondorf but he's being used by a greater power.
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#6 yaljarani
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Exactly^^^. The one person you've foughten for so long is a pawn to a greater power, that's why he never freaking dies.
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Imagine a huge seige of hyrule, with link attacking deep into the lines of the enemy and discovering what he needs to defeat them through the classic dungeons. The dungeons are controlled by the bosses that you usually face and aren't just there for no reason.

An epic battle with tons of enemies, kinda like something of helms deep or minas tirith from lord fo the rings. It'd be awesome if in that battle you could actually use all of the items that you aquired in your quests. With huge beasts in the battle to accompany the troops of regular baddies. yaljarani

I don't know. There was a war-like situation in TP with the Bulblins, but they ended up being in the game way too much and eventually just got boring.

Ganandorf, or some new villian (maybe someone who's been in control of Ganandorf all along) could be at the helm of this invasion and Link could be put in a position where he would have to choose to save either Zelda or all of hyrule...now that's EPIC.

yaljarani

Ganon is the King of Evil. Having some other random evil guy behind him would be silly.

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#8 spectravoid
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there should be a zelda where you actually control gannondorf

now that would be awesomeness

or ganondorf and link join together for a bit to overcome a greater evil

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#9 goblaa
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What makes nintendo games great is their simplicity and focus of gameplay over story. The last thing nintendo needs to be doing is going all metal gear solid on their games.

No, what zelda needs is better game play. Not some out-there story used as a gimmick to hide it's stale gameplay.

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#10 LoG-Sacrament
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[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]

for the longest time, i havent been able to put my finger on that "nintendo charm", but ive finally figured it out. its the sheer simplicity. their stories are never anything very deep (rescue the princess, blah blah blah), but they always keep some sort of human aspect to them. whether its mario's general philanthropy or link's courage, nintendo's stories keep it simple: good vs. evil. if the next zelda game became just another LotR copy (as much as i do love LotR) with a vast story and nearly unending cast of characters, it just wouldnt be zelda.

yaljarani

I can see where you're coming from. Don't add peanut butter and jelly to an already delicious slice of bread, but the bread only stays fresh for so long.

im not saying that it should be the same simple story presented well. im thinking a new simple story thats still presented well. and the presentation is truly key. metroid prime stories are very shallow, but not necessarily bad. they are presented in such a way (you discover it by scanning your environments as you explore) that they are very immersive.

its the same thing with zelda games. the situations that link gets in arent very complex (rescue the princess/sister/friend), but their simplicity only emphasizes the emotional impact that event and adds a certain element of mystique. link's silent heroism adds to the mystique.

for the sake of adding something to the thread besides just going after your ideas (no offense intended btw), ill throw something in. maybe make the next zelda game to have a darker theme like maybe a revenge story (very simple motive). the villain would kill somebody close to link at the beginning of the game, and link would set out to avenge them.

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#11 yaljarani
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These are some interesting ideas, I'm beginning to understand more and more the impact of the simplicity of the stories of Zelda. You are right in that it needs to focus on a theme while still delivering an emotional impact, rather than complex and branching storylines. I just want something more exciting, revenge would be nice, but how about something more original.

I want to be given something that I care deeply about and have it taken away, leaving that impact and allowing Link to venture off on his quests while maintaining the impact throughout the game, not at just one moment.

Overall, there needs to be something more at stake. Make me care more about Zelda, because after saving her for the sixth time or whatever, it feels stale. Get my drift?

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#12 LoG-Sacrament
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These are some interesting ideas, I'm beginning to understand more and more the impact of the simplicity of the stories of Zelda. You are right in that it needs to focus on a theme while still delivering an emotional impact, rather than complex and branching storylines. I just want something more exciting, revenge would be nice, but how about something more original.

I want to be given something that I care deeply about and have it taken away, leaving that impact and allowing Link to venture off on his quests while maintaining the impact throughout the game, not at just one moment.

Overall, there needs to be something more at stake. Make me care more about Zelda, because after saving her for the sixth time or whatever, it feels stale. Get my drift?

yaljarani

zelda: "link, im pregnant...and...and its yours!"

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[QUOTE="yaljarani"]

These are some interesting ideas, I'm beginning to understand more and more the impact of the simplicity of the stories of Zelda. You are right in that it needs to focus on a theme while still delivering an emotional impact, rather than complex and branching storylines. I just want something more exciting, revenge would be nice, but how about something more original.

I want to be given something that I care deeply about and have it taken away, leaving that impact and allowing Link to venture off on his quests while maintaining the impact throughout the game, not at just one moment.

Overall, there needs to be something more at stake. Make me care more about Zelda, because after saving her for the sixth time or whatever, it feels stale. Get my drift?

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zelda: "link, im pregnant...and...and its yours!"

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ROFL

The basic Nintendo formula rocks =P

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#14 yaljarani
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[QUOTE="yaljarani"]

These are some interesting ideas, I'm beginning to understand more and more the impact of the simplicity of the stories of Zelda. You are right in that it needs to focus on a theme while still delivering an emotional impact, rather than complex and branching storylines. I just want something more exciting, revenge would be nice, but how about something more original.

I want to be given something that I care deeply about and have it taken away, leaving that impact and allowing Link to venture off on his quests while maintaining the impact throughout the game, not at just one moment.

Overall, there needs to be something more at stake. Make me care more about Zelda, because after saving her for the sixth time or whatever, it feels stale. Get my drift?

LoG-Sacrament

zelda: "link, im pregnant...and...and its yours!"

:P

That's exactly what I was talking about...:P

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You think the real villian is Ganondorf but he's being used by a greater power.starmetroid
Wasn't he the puppet master in Twilight Princess with Zant.
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#16 yaljarani
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[QUOTE="starmetroid"]You think the real villian is Ganondorf but he's being used by a greater power.Sim_Gamer
Wasn't he the puppet master in Twilight Princess with Zant.

How many people knew that Ganandorf was behind Zant, I know I did. It would be hard to think of a greater evil than Ganandorf.

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These are all great ideas! While I think a darker story would be good, I highly doubt that Nintendo will do a revenge story. My main idea is this: Zelda needs a new villain. We have all fought ganondorf more times than we can count. I want to see them bring in a new villain, a villain that has not been shown properly in the console realm: Dark Link. Through Zant's magic, a darker version of Link is born. This Link is used to amass a new force of evil upon hyrule and it is nearly destroyed. The survivors of this attack have been enslaved, including Zelda. They are in several different dungeons throughout the land. Link must stop him at all costs by freeing the prisoners and amass a force large enough to take on the legion that has taken over Hyrule.

Well, there is the basic plot anyway. I know the whole dark/light personalities have been used before in other games, but it would make for an interesting difference for this franchise.

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#18 yaljarani
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These are all great ideas! While I think a darker story would be good, I highly doubt that Nintendo will do a revenge story. My main idea is this: Zelda needs a new villain. We have all fought ganondorf more times than we can count. I want to see them bring in a new villain, a villain that has not been shown properly in the console realm: Dark Link. Through Zant's magic, a darker version of Link is born. This Link is used to amass a new force of evil upon hyrule and it is nearly destroyed. The survivors of this attack have been enslaved, including Zelda. They are in several different dungeons throughout the land. Link must stop him at all costs by freeing the prisoners and amass a force large enough to take on the legion that has taken over Hyrule.

Well, there is the basic plot anyway. I know the whole dark/light personalities have been used before in other games, but it would make for an interesting difference for this franchise.

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Yeah, I'm glad you agree that the franchise story routes need to change. I doubt Nintendo would wanna take the franchise into something that's really dark, but a grander scale or a more meaningful plot would be awesome.

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i have always wanted the slightly darker themed zelda they obviously won't go M but the still have a lot of wiggle room in the T category, i think it should be a direct sequel to Twilight Princess, have llia killed and link sets out to avenge her, but in another twist i have long thought of, link is fighting the soldiers of hyrule, because the crown has been usurped from zelda by a general, and the master sword is still in ganondorf's chest from TP when link gets it back, (awesome boss fight) it is tainted by ganon's evil and fits into link's dark quest for revenge perfectly
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#20 yaljarani
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i have always wanted the slightly darker themed zelda they obviously won't go M but the still have a lot of wiggle room in the T category, i think it should be a direct sequel to Twilight Princess, have llia killed and link sets out to avenge her, but in another twist i have long thought of, link is fighting the soldiers of hyrule, because the crown has been usurped from zelda by a general, and the master sword is still in ganondorf's chest from TP when link gets it back, (awesome boss fight) it is tainted by ganon's evil and fits into link's dark quest for revenge perfectlyjomaster007

That might actually work...

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#21 yaljarani
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So anyone have any other ideas or opinions?
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what would be cool would you can play your song on your new instrument that lets you play as darrk link and you can spaz out as him(enhanced helm spinner or something)
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[QUOTE="yaljarani"]Imagine a huge seige of hyrule, with link attacking deep into the lines of the enemy and discovering what he needs to defeat them through the classic dungeons. The dungeons are controlled by the bosses that you usually face and aren't just there for no reason.

An epic battle with tons of enemies, kinda like something of helms deep or minas tirith from lord fo the rings. It'd be awesome if in that battle you could actually use all of the items that you aquired in your quests. With huge beasts in the battle to accompany the troops of regular baddies. Cherokee_Jack

I don't know. There was a war-like situation in TP with the Bulblins, but they ended up being in the game way too much and eventually just got boring.

r u kidding i loved the part when u got killl a whole bunch of guys at the same time, and i dont know if any of u remember but at one part in the game in a dungeon when u were going to the final door to the boss and about 20 guys ran at u at once, that was awesome
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It needs to be more EPIC and larger in scope. Imagine a huge seige of hyrule, with link attacking deep into the lines of the enemy and discovering what he needs to defeat them through the classic dungeons. The dungeons are controlled by the bosses that you usually face and aren't just there for no reason.

An epic battle with tons of enemies, kinda like something of helms deep or minas tirith from lord fo the rings. It'd be awesome if in that battle you could actually use all of the items that you aquired in your quests. With huge beasts in the battle to accompany the troops of regular baddies. Zelda could be ensnared by evil and you could bring her back to the light, and back to goodness.

Ganandorf, or some new villian (maybe someone who's been in control of Ganandorf all along) could be at the helm of this invasion and Link could be put in a position where he would have to choose to save either Zelda or all of hyrule...now that's EPIC.

And a new coop mode...just kidding.

Your thoughts on what the next Legend of Zelda story should have...

yaljarani
i think this is a great idea, id buy it for sure, i also liked the idea some people had where u played in the future but this is a way better idea
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I have ben thinking about that war thing for awhile.
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#26 freebie2k8
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I like that revenge story a lot. My main necessity for the next Zelda is higher difficulty, mostly. I would love to see Fierce Deity Link make a return, I barely got to use him and he'd be great.
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or make Dark Link the evil bad guy
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#28 yaljarani
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Glad a lot of you like the whole war idea, basically a larger scale. The revenge twist that someone added would be pretty awesome too. Keep posting and try to come up with some more ideas of your own that you think would make the story a little better.