The New Caslevania Looks Like Garbage

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#1 Zeppy007
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No Im not talking about the one on the Ds that one looks kick-ass Im talking about the one for the wii its a fricken fighter WTF Ehy did they do this does anyone have awnsers?

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#2 The_Pig_Hostage
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Eh, it may turn out alright. According to IGN's new hands-on preview, it plays a lot like Power Stone, which I always enjoyed back in the day. And besides, it's not like traditional Castlevania games on the consoles have been all that great lately anyway (Curse of Darkness, I'm looking at you), so why not take a chance?
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#3 JAB991
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It doesn't sound like the game will be bad, it just sounds like you're disappointed it's not a traditional Castlevania RPG. Don't get upset yet, TC, the game might be good. It's too early too call.
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#4 arp224
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The thing is, when there were rumors of a wii castlevania, many (including myself) were expecting a 2d/2.5d game, after that interview with Iga at Ign. But we get a fighter instead. I'm not saying the game is gonna be bad, it will probably be great (we're talking about konami here), but i seriously doubt it will be as good as any SOTN-style game.
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Eh, it may turn out alright. According to IGN's new hands-on preview, it plays a lot like Power Stone, which I always enjoyed back in the day. And besides, it's not like traditional Castlevania games on the consoles have been all that great lately anyway (Curse of Darkness, I'm looking at you), so why not take a chance? The_Pig_Hostage

hell yeah! man those games were fun

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#6 m_machine024
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I read the IGN preview and the interview... and I'm even less interested.
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#7 komdosina
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DS connectivity, Power Stone gameplay and online play, I'm actually more interested now then before the IGN preview and interview. I'm still cautiously optimistic because its still in pre-alpha, but I'm interested in how this ends when its done. While some may disagree on the art direction, I hope they don't mean that the graphics technically look like garbage because they look pretty good to me. It looks better then most Wii games and like I said its pre-alpha and its not finished.
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I read the IGN preview and the interview... and I'm even less interested.m_machine024

That's actually the opposite for me. Anyway, we will have more info in couple of days

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#9 musicman748
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Whatever. Im not really a huge fan of castlevania.
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#10 nini200
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Here's an email I recieved about this game:

(I'm not revealing who sent it so don't ask)

Re: Castlevania Judgement aye heres some of the screens. can't remember where i saw the others.

http://www.jeux-france.com/element7236_images.html (Zelda'ed for your easy clicking access)

it doesn't seem very great.. looks kinda like the opposite transition of soulcalibur legends (BAD Game). the wii isn't gonna belt out very good graphics. and if your a fan of some of the previous castlevania games the characters look a little...different. Powerstone was great because of the gameplay 4 ppl tons of items interactive objects levels power ups. This gameplay doesn't look very spectacular and from what i hear it isn't.

Me personally, I'd have to disagree with this person on the Castlevania part but apparently it's already out in Japan, meaning it's past the alpha development phase. I'll have to try this game out before I can down it because it doesn't sound like this guy has ever played it and he's just going off someone elses opinion.

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#11 Jaysonguy
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Why is Mario in an RPG?

Why is Mario driving a Go Kart?

Why is Mario in a fighter?????

Because we know how much they sucked, right?

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#12 chris3116
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I asked this before when did Konami make a fighting game before this? I have a feeling it will be a flop.
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#14 Jaysonguy
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I asked this before when did Konami make a fighting game before this? I have a feeling it will be a flop. chris3116

Is the 2D fighter all that hard to make these days?

I would think any major studio would be able to pull it off.

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I asked this before when did Konami make a fighting game before this? I have a feeling it will be a flop. chris3116

Are you honestly asking this? Wow. Well, since you must know, Konami made TMNT: Tournament FIGHTERS for the SNES and Genesis. They were 2 different games completely. The Genesis one was not all that great but the SNES version rivaled that of Street Fighter and KOF. The SNES version was simply awesome. They had specials, Max Guages for S Desperation Moves and Everything a great fighter has. Another fighter/adventure game they've made was TMNT: Turtles in Time (That game speaks for itself and just oozes -no pun intended- awesomeness, and YES, it DID have a VERSUS mode on it). For that matter, Konami made the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube versions of 3D Cell Shaded TMNT 1, 2 & 3. 1 and 2 were great but 3 Allowed for the gameplay that the new Castlevania is supposed to have. Full 3d movement with weapons and power-ups, oh, and it's 4players too if you must know. Konami has much experience with this type of gameplay and can and has pulled it off successfully.

Here's a link to it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON9NWHThHLM&feature=related

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Why is Mario in an RPG?

Why is Mario driving a Go Kart?

Why is Mario in a fighter?????

Because we know how much they sucked, right?

Jaysonguy

Your analogy = epic phail

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#17 JAB991
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Why is Mario in an RPG?

Why is Mario driving a Go Kart?

Why is Mario in a fighter?????

Because we know how much they sucked, right?

nomadph

Your analogy = epic phail

It actually makes complete sense. You take a beloved platforming franchise and expand it to other genres succesfully, why can't an RPG franchise be expanded to a fighting game? There's no reason to assume it'll suck just because it's something you didn't expect.

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#18 The_Pig_Hostage
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[QUOTE="nomadph"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Why is Mario in an RPG?

Why is Mario driving a Go Kart?

Why is Mario in a fighter?????

Because we know how much they sucked, right?

JAB991

Your analogy = epic phail

It actually makes complete sense. You take a beloved platforming franchise and expand it to other genres succesfully, why can't an RPG franchise be expanded to a fighting game? There's no reason to assume it'll suck just because it's something you didn't expect.

Castlevania is not an RPG franchise...

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#19 nini200
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[QUOTE="nomadph"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Why is Mario in an RPG?

Why is Mario driving a Go Kart?

Why is Mario in a fighter?????

Because we know how much they sucked, right?

JAB991

Your analogy = epic phail

It actually makes complete sense. You take a beloved platforming franchise and expand it to other genres succesfully, why can't an RPG franchise be expanded to a fighting game? There's no reason to assume it'll suck just because it's something you didn't expect.

You are sooo Correct on this. Most RPG's would make for Awesome Fighters. I mean who wouldn't want a Xenogears Fighting Game or a Chrono Trigger Fighting game? Those would be awesome if done correctly. Take the Final Fantasy franchise for example, Square created Ehrgeiz, I personally think that game was an awesome free fighter that allowed for hours of gameplay on end. Yet Square also made Tobal No. 1 which kinda flopped so it just depends on if the company fully works on it to get it as perfect as they possibly can.

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#20 Dark_Knight6
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[QUOTE="nomadph"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Why is Mario in an RPG?

Why is Mario driving a Go Kart?

Why is Mario in a fighter?????

Because we know how much they sucked, right?

JAB991

Your analogy = epic phail

It actually makes complete sense. You take a beloved platforming franchise and expand it to other genres succesfully, why can't an RPG franchise be expanded to a fighting game? There's no reason to assume it'll suck just because it's something you didn't expect.

Difference being, Mario games are able to succeed and evolve in their original genre before branching into others. Castlevania is a different story. While the 2D games are great, all of the 3D games have been less than stellar.

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#21 D7ok
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Any links to a video or anything?
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[QUOTE="JAB991"][QUOTE="nomadph"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Why is Mario in an RPG?

Why is Mario driving a Go Kart?

Why is Mario in a fighter?????

Because we know how much they sucked, right?

Dark_Knight6

Your analogy = epic phail

It actually makes complete sense. You take a beloved platforming franchise and expand it to other genres succesfully, why can't an RPG franchise be expanded to a fighting game? There's no reason to assume it'll suck just because it's something you didn't expect.

Difference being, Mario games are able to succeed and evolve in their original genre before branching into others. Castlevania is a different story. While the 2D games are great, all of the 3D games have been less than stellar.

There's no difference.

Mario was nothing but a fantastic 2D game and only a fantastic 2D game when they decided to make him drive go karts and star in an RPG.

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#23 Dymond7
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3D Castlevania RPGs have always failed, so its worth a try, and besides, lots of great series (Mario, Final Fantasy) have spin-offs, The mario spin offs are good and I don't know about Final Fantasy, but we can hope for the best :)

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I'm not happy about it either. I'm just going to have to pass on it. I wish developers would give us real games, not spinoffs that no one asked for
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#25 PhazonBlazer
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why does Mario party get a new one very year, because people like to milk franchises
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#26 nini200
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Any links to a video or anything?D7ok

I posted a link to screenshots on page 1.

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#27 Zeppy007
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Why is Mario in an RPG?

Why is Mario driving a Go Kart?

Why is Mario in a fighter?????

Because we know how much they sucked, right?

Jaysonguy

At the time Mario RPG introduced alot of new RPG like time attacked sequnces

Mario Kart Was new because it was like no other racing game at the time

Super Smash Brothers was Good Because it Threw Chacters From ALL Nintendo Francises in there and it was simple to play.

But The Mario sucked at baseball,soccer,Education,The Hotel Buseiness,Partying,basketball,and dancing.

But Castlevania has no buiseness in the fighter genre

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#28 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Why is Mario in an RPG?

Why is Mario driving a Go Kart?

Why is Mario in a fighter?????

Because we know how much they sucked, right?

Zeppy007

At the time Mario RPG introduced alot of new RPG like time attacked sequnces

Mario Kart Was new because it was like no other racing game at the time

Super Smash Brothers was Good Because it Threw Chacters From ALL Nintendo Francises in there and it was simple to play.

But The Mario sucked at baseball,soccer,Education,The Hotel Buseiness,Partying,basketball,and dancing.

But Castlevania has no buiseness in the fighter genre

OK, so Mario racing is awesome, Mario RPG'ng is awesome and you say that Smash has everyone in the game. Well ummmm, how many of those characters were from fighting games?

None?

OK!

Mario's had tons of spinoffs where all of them are solid games and most are great if not better.

But no, you say that Castlevania will be awful because it's not a genre the series normally is, because you really do have a lot to back that up.

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#29 Zeppy007
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[QUOTE="Zeppy007"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Why is Mario in an RPG?

Why is Mario driving a Go Kart?

Why is Mario in a fighter?????

Because we know how much they sucked, right?

Jaysonguy

At the time Mario RPG introduced alot of new RPG like time attacked sequnces

Mario Kart Was new because it was like no other racing game at the time

Super Smash Brothers was Good Because it Threw Chacters From ALL Nintendo Francises in there and it was simple to play.

But The Mario sucked at baseball,soccer,Education,The Hotel Buseiness,Partying,basketball,and dancing.

But Castlevania has no buiseness in the fighter genre

OK, so Mario racing is awesome, Mario RPG'ng is awesome and you say that Smash has everyone in the game. Well ummmm, how many of those characters were from fighting games?

None?

OK!

Mario's had tons of spinoffs where all of them are solid games and most are great if not better.

But no, you say that Castlevania will be awful because it's not a genre the series normally is, because you really do have a lot to back that up.

Yup

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#30 Zeppy007
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[QUOTE="Zeppy007"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Why is Mario in an RPG?

Why is Mario driving a Go Kart?

Why is Mario in a fighter?????

Because we know how much they sucked, right?

Jaysonguy

At the time Mario RPG introduced alot of new RPG like time attacked sequnces

Mario Kart Was new because it was like no other racing game at the time

Super Smash Brothers was Good Because it Threw Chacters From ALL Nintendo Francises in there and it was simple to play.

But The Mario sucked at baseball,soccer,Education,The Hotel Buseiness,Partying,basketball,and dancing.

But Castlevania has no buiseness in the fighter genre

OK, so Mario racing is awesome, Mario RPG'ng is awesome and you say that Smash has everyone in the game. Well ummmm, how many of those characters were from fighting games?

None?

OK!

Mario's had tons of spinoffs where all of them are solid games and most are great if not better.

But no, you say that Castlevania will be awful because it's not a genre the series normally is, because you really do have a lot to back that up.

Yup

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#31 Dark_Knight6
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="JAB991"][QUOTE="nomadph"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Why is Mario in an RPG?

Why is Mario driving a Go Kart?

Why is Mario in a fighter?????

Because we know how much they sucked, right?

Jaysonguy

Your analogy = epic phail

It actually makes complete sense. You take a beloved platforming franchise and expand it to other genres succesfully, why can't an RPG franchise be expanded to a fighting game? There's no reason to assume it'll suck just because it's something you didn't expect.

Difference being, Mario games are able to succeed and evolve in their original genre before branching into others. Castlevania is a different story. While the 2D games are great, all of the 3D games have been less than stellar.

There's no difference.

Mario was nothing but a fantastic 2D game and only a fantastic 2D game when they decided to make him drive go karts and star in an RPG.

Except Mario was able to transition into 3D without having to be in a completely different genre to be successfull.

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#32 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="JAB991"][QUOTE="nomadph"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Why is Mario in an RPG?

Why is Mario driving a Go Kart?

Why is Mario in a fighter?????

Because we know how much they sucked, right?

Dark_Knight6

Your analogy = epic phail

It actually makes complete sense. You take a beloved platforming franchise and expand it to other genres succesfully, why can't an RPG franchise be expanded to a fighting game? There's no reason to assume it'll suck just because it's something you didn't expect.

Difference being, Mario games are able to succeed and evolve in their original genre before branching into others. Castlevania is a different story. While the 2D games are great, all of the 3D games have been less than stellar.

There's no difference.

Mario was nothing but a fantastic 2D game and only a fantastic 2D game when they decided to make him drive go karts and star in an RPG.

Except Mario was able to transition into 3D without having to be in a completely different genre to be successfull.

That has nothing to do with the topic though?

This whole discussion is built on this game being bad because it's not the same genre. I've given numerous examples on how classic characters with new genres have worked while the thread creator has ummm, passed on the opportunity.

2D to 3D is still platforming. If the new Castlevania was a 3D action adventure game the thread creator wouldn't be complaining, it's the genre change he's complaining about.

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#33 GamerJM
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Fighting genre>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>action genre