The one thing 3DS must do to succeed.

Nintendo must convince the world that the 3DS is a must have and the only way I can think of how they could do this is to have an amazing camera / online experience.

1. The 3DS will ship and put in the hands for the first time ever, a 3D camera and a 3D screen.
2. If this camera is good enough to replace a typical 4-5 megapixel camera and or if it has the ability to capture VIDEO at HD minimum 720p then they have got something everyone would want.
3. Imagine capturing 3D photos and 3D video. CAN YOU IMAGINE? but so what if you can only view it on your own 3DS. They MUST have a online upload and viewing community. eg photo.nintendo.com/user/mrmushroomer or video.nintendo.com/user/mrmushroomer etc.. Another option is to incorporate Facebook uploads of the 3d video or photos.
4. From there, people can view it online in 2D or through their opera browser in 3D on their 3DS screen. Another outlet could be using 3D glasses with 3D HDTV.
5. If i could view other peoples 3D images and video, and show others how cool it looks, then the 3DS craze WOULD spread like wild fire .. justlike the wii did. But, if they do not include this sort of option, then ppl wont care too much about a gameing only 3d system. most people i know get sick from 3d movement anyways.

Anyone else believe I am onto something?

for me all it needs is better online functionality.Even the original ds had a mic built in from the start but how come there was only a handful of games got voice chat?

It worries me that nintendo has said nothing about it.

for me all it needs is better online functionality.Even the original ds had a mic built in from the start but how come there was only a handful of games got voice chat?

It worries me that nintendo has said nothing about it.

Ghost120x

I don't care about its 3D camera or photographing.

I want just those games to come out so i can play them

* Resident Evil revelation and min-mercenaries

* Metal Gear Solid 3D

* Kingdom Hearts 3D

Nintendo must convince the world that the 3DS is a must have and the only way I can think of how they could do this is to have an amazing camera / online experience.

1. The 3DS will ship and put in the hands for the first time ever, a 3D camera and a 3D screen.
2. If this camera is good enough to replace a typical 4-5 megapixel camera and or if it has the ability to capture VIDEO at HD minimum 720p then they have got something everyone would want.
3. Imagine capturing 3D photos and 3D video. CAN YOU IMAGINE? but so what if you can only view it on your own 3DS. They MUST have a online upload and viewing community. eg photo.nintendo.com/user/mrmushroomer or video.nintendo.com/user/mrmushroomer etc.. Another option is to incorporate Facebook uploads of the 3d video or photos.
4. From there, people can view it online in 2D or through their opera browser in 3D on their 3DS screen. Another outlet could be using 3D glasses with 3D HDTV.
5. If i could view other peoples 3D images and video, and show others how cool it looks, then the 3DS craze WOULD spread like wild fire .. justlike the wii did. But, if they do not include this sort of option, then ppl wont care too much about a gameing only 3d system. most people i know get sick from 3d movement anyways.

Anyone else believe I am onto something?

mushroomer

I don't care about its 3D camera or photographing.

I want just those games to come out so i can play them

* Resident Evil revelation and min-mercenaries

* Metal Gear Solid 3D

* Kingdom Hearts 3D

Jack_240

This.

As long as the games are good and the price isn't prohibitively high, the 3DS will succeed

more then just games. which is sad in a way

I still think Pokemon should have been a 3DS game and launched with it. That would push so much systems.OreoMilkshake

it will sell regardless of any thing you say dont happen , ,

cause itll be the new handheld , it will be the only new handheld for the time being and why would people stick to psp or ds after this launches, i dont know , it doesnt seam logical since 3ds plays ds games , and has a vc to boot , so ya

Nintendo must convince the world that the 3DS is a must have and the only way I can think of how they could do this is to have an amazing camera / online experience.

1. The 3DS will ship and put in the hands for the first time ever, a 3D camera and a 3D screen.
2. If this camera is good enough to replace a typical 4-5 megapixel camera and or if it has the ability to capture VIDEO at HD minimum 720p then they have got something everyone would want.
3. Imagine capturing 3D photos and 3D video. CAN YOU IMAGINE? but so what if you can only view it on your own 3DS. They MUST have a online upload and viewing community. eg photo.nintendo.com/user/mrmushroomer or video.nintendo.com/user/mrmushroomer etc.. Another option is to incorporate Facebook uploads of the 3d video or photos.
4. From there, people can view it online in 2D or through their opera browser in 3D on their 3DS screen. Another outlet could be using 3D glasses with 3D HDTV.
5. If i could view other peoples 3D images and video, and show others how cool it looks, then the 3DS craze WOULD spread like wild fire .. justlike the wii did. But, if they do not include this sort of option, then ppl wont care too much about a gameing only 3d system. most people i know get sick from 3d movement anyways.

Anyone else believe I am onto something?

There's is no such thing as a much have, except food, shelter, and clothes.

I also would never buy the 3DS for a camera... the quality is low and worthless. It is fun to play around with but that is all. THe games is what makes the system useful or not. A system, no matter how fancy or great, sucks with bad games. Virtualboy was fancy, but it failed. Doesn't meant i don't own it :D (garage sale)

Well the camera's are confirmed to be dirt cheap VGA cameras, so that one is out the window

I think what they need to do to have it succeed is have an affordable price and killer software, but also appeal to the "jack of all trades" mobile crowd to a extent

I mean, I don't think people are going to be pushing over themselves to get one for $250 if PilotWings, two N64 remakes, and Icarus are the marquee titles for the first 6 months (paper mario too) but I suppose thats what Nintendogs is for, but it will be intersting to see how consumers react to Nintendogs, Brain Age this generation because for all we know they may stop buying it like they did before

I think it will be successful, but its going to be a rough road

There's is no such thing as a much have, except food, shelter, and clothes.

I also would never buy the 3DS for a camera... the quality is low and worthless. It is fun to play around with but that is all. THe games is what makes the system useful or not. A system, no matter how fancy or great, sucks with bad games. Virtualboy was fancy, but it failed. Doesn't meant i don't own it :D (garage sale)

Meh, I don't think your points are super important to be honest. It's all about the games for me.F0urTwenty

I still think Pokemon should have been a 3DS game and launched with it. That would push so much systems.OreoMilkshake

Definitely. I guess they think it will be successful anyway and they want to make B and W for the DS so that stays successful...who knows.

For me I am buying it for the games, not the 3D. I might end up loving the 3D, but what I love more is the "joystick", graphics, screensize, games, and hopefully better online.

Nothing... The 3DS doesn't have to do anything to be a success other than the fact Nintendo made it. Look at the track record. How fast did the GBA SP, the DS Lite, and the DSi XL all sell out when first launched in the first month? The fact that none of these systems introduced any new features, just hardware redesigns and updates like better batteries and brighter screens, yet they sold like hot cakes is because Nintendo is the portable gaming guru. Back when they launched Gameboy and Sega had the Game Gear, Nintendo won. Nintendo won even though the Game Gear had better technology in it, like a back lit screen in color. It came as a shock to some that the GB with only its only black and white no back lit screen would win. Even when the PSP came out people thought it would destroy the DS, yet it was the opposite, the PSP only sold well for a short while and in the long haul the DS is king. The same will happen here, The 3DS will come out, sell like hot cakes and be sold out for a few weeks. Then a couple of months later the new PSP "Phone like" device will come out and out sell the 3DS for a month or 2, but in the end the 3DS will sell more units in the end, thus proving that Nintendo is the King of Gaming on The Go and has been since 1989 when they first launched the Gameboy with Tetris. Glory to the King of Mobile Gaming. Long Live Nintendo.

Nothing... The 3DS doesn't have to do anything to be a success other than the fact Nintendo made it. Look at the track record. How fast did the GBA SP, the DS Lite, and the DSi XL all sell out when first launched in the first month? The fact that none of these systems introduced any new features, just hardware redesigns and updates like better batteries and brighter screens, yet they sold like hot cakes is because Nintendo is the portable gaming guru. Back when they launched Gameboy and Sega had the Game Gear, Nintendo won. Nintendo won even though the Game Gear had better technology in it, like a back lit screen in color. It came as a shock to some that the GB with only its only black and white no back lit screen would win. Even when the PSP came out people thought it would destroy the DS, yet it was the opposite, the PSP only sold well for a short while and in the long haul the DS is king. The same will happen here, The 3DS will come out, sell like hot cakes and be sold out for a few weeks. Then a couple of months later the new PSP "Phone like" device will come out and out sell the 3DS for a month or 2, but in the end the 3DS will sell more units in the end, thus proving that Nintendo is the King of Gaming on The Go and has been since 1989 when they first launched the Gameboy with Tetris. Glory to the King of Mobile Gaming. Long Live Nintendo.

JunoWalker

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic.

The 3DS has to convince consumers to buy it, nothing is guaranteed.

Afterall, this may be the first time the Nintendo handheld is the most expensivehandheld (that i know of)

it would be nice to have video out, to play it on an LCD. You want to know what will determine a system's success? Answer: GAMES Remember the Sega Genesis? Tons of games by Sega, and 3rd party support was not that bad. Flash forward to Saturn. Dev support was not very high, and the PlayStation 1 hit Sega hard. Finally, Dreamcast had a total lack of EA support, plus piracy did the system in. Bad marketing is often cited as a 3rd reason. Aside from SEGA, I can say that NeoGeo was another super expensive console that barely held on. Oh do any of you remember the 3DO? And Turbo Graphx 16? And Atari Jaguar? All those systems had only a few developers (3DO actually had EA. Anyone remember Trip Hawkins?) & fizzled out after not too long. If you have dev support, and or very deep 1st party (which SEGA could do, as well as Nintendo) then you can win. A lack of games, as well as games that are just junk, well you're asking for trouble. My two cents.jma1024x

The only way that the 3DS will not be a success (in some way, shape, or form) would be if it didn't have any strong titles/dev support coming to it. Which as we all know from E3 and the new that has been trickling down since Nintendo is having no problems in that department. Not only will they naturally have their own stellar 1st party titles but for the first time in long while they are getting very strong 3rd party backing from some pretty big heavy-hitters in the dev/publishing world. Just as long as the price is not too ridiculous, it will do fine. The whole 3D camera thing is just a small bonus, but it really it's gonna mean that much to the mostly gamer consumers that will no doubt buy it.

[QUOTE="jma1024x"]it would be nice to have video out, to play it on an LCD. You want to know what will determine a system's success? Answer: GAMES Remember the Sega Genesis? Tons of games by Sega, and 3rd party support was not that bad. Flash forward to Saturn. Dev support was not very high, and the PlayStation 1 hit Sega hard. Finally, Dreamcast had a total lack of EA support, plus piracy did the system in. Bad marketing is often cited as a 3rd reason. Aside from SEGA, I can say that NeoGeo was another super expensive console that barely held on. Oh do any of you remember the 3DO? And Turbo Graphx 16? And Atari Jaguar? All those systems had only a few developers (3DO actually had EA. Anyone remember Trip Hawkins?) & fizzled out after not too long. If you have dev support, and or very deep 1st party (which SEGA could do, as well as Nintendo) then you can win. A lack of games, as well as games that are just junk, well you're asking for trouble. My two cents.PumpkinBoogie

The only way that the 3DS will not be a success (in some way, shape, or form) would be if it didn't have any strong titles/dev support coming to it. Which as we all know from E3 and the new that has been trickling down since Nintendo is having no problems in that department. Not only will they naturally have their own stellar 1st party titles but for the first time in long while they are getting very strong 3rd party backing from some pretty big heavy-hitters in the dev/publishing world. Just as long as the price is not too ridiculous, it will do fine. The whole 3D camera thing is just a small bonus, but it really it's gonna mean that much to the mostly gamer consumers that will no doubt buy it.

There are plenty of scenarios where the 3DS could fail.

Its going to be $250. It would be a very smart move for their competitors to launch with good dev support at a lower price, infact i'd bet that is going to happen.

When hasn't the handheld brand got good third party support? You say its the first time in a long time, but both the GBA and DS got better 3rd party support than the Cube and Wii.

And we have no idea how these announced titles will fare. We already kinda know Mercs 3D is a port of RE4 +RE5 content, with no story, so it kinda smells like a flop. I'm just saying just because someone announces something for a platform doesn't mean its going to be good

Like Kingdom Hearts 3D, what kind of game is it going to be? Remember when SQ Enix announced a Dragon Quest for Wii in 2006? Yea, ended up being a poor sword fighting game essentially. And where is Dragon Quest 10 on Wii? So i'd take all this "pledged" support with a grain of salt because it means nothing until we have a finished product.

Everyone keeps appointing the 3DS crowned king of a battle that hasn't even begun, and that isn't nearly the truth. It could, and I'm going to buy it day one, but nothing is guaranteed.

I suppose it depends on how we define "win". If it means outselling Sony's next dedicated gaming system, that in and of itself would be an accomplishment and I think most of us expect the 3DS will be capable of doing that. I don't think the 3D camera will have any effect on whether or not that happens, it's just a neat feature of the system.

This next generation it will be very difficult to isolate winners from losers. Over the next 6 years, the whole portable gaming market may end up being dominated by smartphones and tablets. No one wants to think of this or accept its possibility, and I know gamers will be quick to point out all the aspects of smartphones they don't like (contract fees, battery life, controls). But if we compare the state of mobile gaming 4 years ago to what's being released today, there's been a rapid growth in the quality, competitiveness and technical capability of mobile games.

In Q2 of 2008, smartphone penetration was at 10% of the US market. Next year it will pass 50%. The people owning these devices may not have bought these systems for the purpose of playing games, but the functionality exists within each system.

Handhelds and handheld games are predominantly a Japanese export. We in the West may ravenously purchase DSs, but we're not really responsible for much DS/PSP software development. As of March 2010, smartphones made up less than 10% of the overall mobile market in Japan... but where will smartphones be in 6 years there, especially if the PSP Phone takes off?

Too many questions. For now, I'm content to say the 3DS is a very intriguing piece of hardware that looks set to deliver a great gaming experience and bring 3D to the masses. But the 3DS may succeed in terms of "perceived game quality" but still end up losing the software revenue battle to other portables.

I suppose it depends on how we define "win". If it means outselling Sony's next dedicated gaming system, that in and of itself would be an accomplishment and I think most of us expect the 3DS will be capable of doing that. I don't think the 3D camera will have any effect on whether or not that happens, it's just a neat feature of the system.

This next generation it will be very difficult to isolate winners from losers. Over the next 6 years, the whole portable gaming market may end up being dominated by smartphones and tablets. No one wants to think of this or accept its possibility, and I know gamers will be quick to point out all the aspects of smartphones they don't like (contract fees, battery life, controls). But if we compare the state of mobile gaming 4 years ago to what's being released today, there's been a rapid growth in the quality, competitiveness and technical capability of mobile games.

In Q2 of 2008, smartphone penetration was at 10% of the US market. Next year it will pass 50%. The people owning these devices may not have bought these systems for the purpose of playing games, but the functionality exists within each system.

Handhelds and handheld games are predominantly a Japanese export. We in the West may ravenously purchase DSs, but we're not really responsible for much DS/PSP software development. As of March 2010, smartphones made up less than 10% of the overall mobile market in Japan... but where will smartphones be in 6 years there, especially if the PSP Phone takes off?

Too many questions. For now, I'm content to say the 3DS is a very intriguing piece of hardware that looks set to deliver a great gaming experience and bring 3D to the masses. But the 3DS may succeed in terms of "perceived game quality" but still end up losing the software revenue battle to other portables.

SakusEnvoy

100% True. Good to see someone with some clear vision amid all the "3DS domination CONFIRMZED" posts on various web sites.

Its going to be much more complicated and not as black and white as most think.