The Wii has more power than you think

People have been underestimating the Wii's hardware limitations, especially fanboys and developers. But after reading this article and watching this video, it certainly proved them wrong.

Article : http://revoeyes.blogspot.com/2007/07/wii-has-more-power-than-you-think.html

Video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8gfDWI42p0&feature=channel_page

PS. It will be much more preferrable if you watch the video first THEN read the article.

People have been underestimating the Wii's hardware limitations, especially fanboys and developers. But after reading this article and watching this video, it certainly proved them wrong.

Article : http://revoeyes.blogspot.com/2007/07/wii-has-more-power-than-you-think.html

Video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8gfDWI42p0&feature=channel_page

PS. It will be much more preferrable if you watch the video first THEN read the article.

Very interesting. The only thing I am shaky on is when it actually says the wii is somewhat close to the 360. I believe that the wii is more powerful than it gets credit for, but not enough to really get close to a 360. It can look really good with the correct implementation of art style but not on pure horse power. Oh and why bring up the early screens of Red steel? it does not matter, at all, what early screens of a game looks like when the game comes out.

P.S. Although it is a good read and ok video, this will not change haters' minds. Nothing does.

Very interesting. The only thing I am shaky on is when it actually says the wii is somewhat close to the 360. I believe that the wii is more powerful than it gets credit for, but not enough to really get close to a 360. It can look really good with the correct implementation of art style but not on pure horse power. Oh and why bring up the early screens of Red steel? it does not matter, at all, what early screens of a game looks like when the game comes out.

P.S. Although it is a good read and ok video, this will not change haters' minds. Nothing does.

ekalbtwin

People have been underestimating the Wii's hardware limitations, especially fanboys and developers. But after reading this article and watching this video, it certainly proved them wrong.

Article : http://revoeyes.blogspot.com/2007/07/wii-has-more-power-than-you-think.html

Video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8gfDWI42p0&feature=channel_page

PS. It will be much more preferrable if you watch the video first THEN read the article.

Very interesting. The only thing I am shaky on is when it actually says the wii is somewhat close to the 360. I believe that the wii is more powerful than it gets credit for, but not enough to really get close to a 360. It can look really good with the correct implementation of art style but not on pure horse power. Oh and why bring up the early screens of Red steel? it does not matter, at all, what early screens of a game looks like when the game comes out.

P.S. Although it is a good read and ok video, this will not change haters' minds. Nothing does.

The Wii is always going the be the weakest link in the console chain this gen

That's not necessarily a bad thing, it just means that Wii games have to pick a different direction then the others take

I have to believe we would see a game that compares to 360 by now , and since we really haven't, i think its just a fanatasy.

We have the developers of The Conduit passionatey wanting to push the Wii to its limits, so I think the system kind of peaks there. IMO.

I have to believe we would see a game that compares to 360 by now , and since we really haven't, i think its just a fanatasy.

We have the developers of The Conduit passionatey wanting to push the Wii to its limits, so I think the system kind of peaks there. IMO.

flazzle

1. It'll never be close to the "other" ones

2. No it hasn't reached it's limit. The Conduit wont have split screen because the Wii can't handle it. In a few years they'll be able to program with less stress on the hardware and offer something like that.

No console has ever peaked ever lol

The new consoles come out before that happens

[QUOTE="flazzle"]

I have to believe we would see a game that compares to 360 by now , and since we really haven't, i think its just a fanatasy.

We have the developers of The Conduit passionatey wanting to push the Wii to its limits, so I think the system kind of peaks there. IMO.

Jaysonguy

1. It'll never be close to the "other" ones

2. No it hasn't reached it's limit. The Conduit wont have split screen because the Wii can't handle it. In a few years they'll be able to program with less stress on the hardware and offer something like that.

No console has ever peaked ever lol

The new consoles come out before that happens

the reason systems never peak is because there are always better ways to program the game to make it less stressful for the system. if i coded tetris bad enough, i could make it max out the ps3 hardware.(obviously this would be harder than coding the game the right way)

does the conduit look good? yes. can they make it better? yes, when they have worked with the system long enough to know how it works. local multiplayer is possible but not with the amount of time that they have. as they said themselves, maybe in the sequal.

this is also the reason why first party games always seem to be better. nintendo just really knows what there doing.(code-wise at least)

I have to believe we would see a game that compares to 360 by now , and since we really haven't, i think its just a fanatasy.

We have the developers of The Conduit passionatey wanting to push the Wii to its limits, so I think the system kind of peaks there. IMO.

1. It'll never be close to the "other" ones

2. No it hasn't reached it's limit. The Conduit wont have split screen because the Wii can't handle it. In a few years they'll be able to program with less stress on the hardware and offer something like that.

No console has ever peaked ever lol

The new consoles come out before that happens

Great link. A lot of us know this, but many fail to believe it due to the lackluster games on the Wii.sonic_spark

The Wii is always going the be the weakest link in the console chain this gen

That's not necessarily a bad thing, it just means that Wii games have to pick a different direction then the others take

Jaysonguy

You know, guys, I could use all of your help in the System Wars forum......I've been receiving lots of hilariously ridiculous comments.Pices

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The Wii is always going the be the weakest link in the console chain this gen

That's not necessarily a bad thing, it just means that Wii games have to pick a different direction then the others take

nelfer320

You know, guys, I could use all of your help in the System Wars forum......I've been receiving lots of hilariously ridiculous comments.Pices

Why would I NOT post it there? Geez, its like I entered into some sacred shrine.....

Why would I NOT post it there? Geez, its like I entered into some secret shrine.....Pices

For the same reason I don't wear banana flavored underwear and sleep in the monkey hut in my local zoo

While I agree that Wii isn't being used to its full potential by the majority of third parties I think the guy who made that video is over-estimating its abilities. He completely disregards the 360/PS3's strengths of having multiple cores etc. There are simply some things they can do that Wii can't. Yes, Wii can do shaders using the TEV unit, but it can't do it without taking a substantial hit on performance. On top of that, developers have to create the shaders from scratch so its kind of understandable why most people aren't using it. Also, Wii can't really do any kind of anti-aliasing from what I've seen.
So uhh yeah. In conclusion - good video but a bit too biased to be taken seriously.manicfoot

If you have a Youtube account, then discuss it with him. He knows a lot about the PS3 and 360 since that he owns all 3 consoles.

[QUOTE="Pices"]Why would I NOT post it there? Geez, its like I entered into some secret shrine.....Jaysonguy

For the same reason I don't wear banana flavored underwear and sleep in the monkey hut in my local zoo

I have to believe we would see a game that compares to 360 by now , and since we really haven't, i think its just a fanatasy.

We have the developers of The Conduit passionatey wanting to push the Wii to its limits, so I think the system kind of peaks there. IMO.

1. It'll never be close to the "other" ones

2. No it hasn't reached it's limit. The Conduit wont have split screen because the Wii can't handle it. In a few years they'll be able to program with less stress on the hardware and offer something like that.

No console has ever peaked ever lol

The new consoles come out before that happens

People have been underestimating the Wii's hardware limitations, especially fanboys and developers. But after reading this article and watching this video, it certainly proved them wrong.

Article : http://revoeyes.blogspot.com/2007/07/wii-has-more-power-than-you-think.html

Video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8gfDWI42p0&feature=channel_page

PS. It will be much more preferrable if you watch the video first THEN read the article.

Pices

Sure, the Wii is more powerful than the original Xbox, but the original Xbox has better looking games (I'm not talking about aethetics). We can talk about the Wii's potential all we want, but that doesn't magically make the games more beautiful.

But what do I care, I think Wind Waker looks better than anything I've sene this generation.

EDIT:

One more thing. I've often read comments that say that the Wii can't handle splitscreen multiplayer very well. Why not? N64 had splitscreen multiplayer in many games. This is a serious question and I'd appreciate a serious answer.

[QUOTE="Pices"]Why would I NOT post it there? Geez, its like I entered into some secret shrine.....Jaysonguy

For the same reason I don't wear banana flavored underwear and sleep in the monkey hut in my local zoo

People have been underestimating the Wii's hardware limitations, especially fanboys and developers. But after reading this article and watching this video, it certainly proved them wrong.

Article : http://revoeyes.blogspot.com/2007/07/wii-has-more-power-than-you-think.html

Video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8gfDWI42p0&feature=channel_page

PS. It will be much more preferrable if you watch the video first THEN read the article.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Pices"]Why would I NOT post it there? Geez, its like I entered into some secret shrine.....longhorn7

For the same reason I don't wear banana flavored underwear and sleep in the monkey hut in my local zoo

That would be it

You know, guys, I could use all of your help in the System Wars forum......I've been receiving lots of hilariously ridiculous comments.Pices

That's because you also post hilariously ridiculous comments. I've seen your posts Pices. Sometimes you have a point but other times you defend the Wii over the most foolish times.

[QUOTE="Pices"]

People have been underestimating the Wii's hardware limitations, especially fanboys and developers. But after reading this article and watching this video, it certainly proved them wrong.

Article : http://revoeyes.blogspot.com/2007/07/wii-has-more-power-than-you-think.html

Video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8gfDWI42p0&feature=channel_page

PS. It will be much more preferrable if you watch the video first THEN read the article.

KingBowser91

Sure, the Wii is more powerful than the original Xbox, but the original Xbox has better looking games (I'm not talking about aethetics). We can talk about the Wii's potential all we want, but that doesn't magically make the games more beautiful.

But what do I care, I think Wind Waker looks better than anything I've sene this generation.

EDIT:

One more thing. I've often read comments that say that the Wii can't handle splitscreen multiplayer very well. Why not? N64 had splitscreen multiplayer in many games. This is a serious question and I'd appreciate a serious answer.

OniStrat

You, my good sir, have asked a question I was about to ask, myself. I don't see how graphical limitations could prevent splitscreen from the Wii, especially when it has been done in games such as Mario Kart Wii. Plus, I believe Red Steel also did that, and it is a shooter. Not a very good shooter, but it still managed to do it.

As for staying on-topic. I'm sure the Wii is probably more powerful than it is given credit for as Nintendo hasn't actually released any official specs. Sure, it isn't hiding some supercomputer inside of it, but I'm sure that developers who use the hardware right will be surprised what they could actually do with it.

Instead, it gets plenty of games which could be compared to a PSP game (Even if they are addictively-fun).

Potential and words mean nothing alone; so far,very few developers outside of Nintendo have tapped into the potential,which is when it counts.VGobbsesser

GFT

It dosen't matter how powerful a system is if the games almost never tap into that power!

It is a hardware limitation when developers have to use a non-standard methods, which require more time, to implement "next-gen" graphics. One of the goals, when developing a new console, should be to make it as easy as possible to develop games on it. The 360 has this in spades. The PS3 has started moving in this direction, though I do believe there are still some issues. And, Nintendo choose to not make strides in this direction with the Wii. Maybe it's because it made it easy to ensure backwards compatibility for all GC games. Maybe it allowed Nintendo to get a jump on development by developing on suped up GCs. It really doesn't matter, because it makes beautifully rendered games more difficult to develop on the Wii. It really has nothing to do with developers being lazy or cheap. It's like the difference between making something with Legos and then being thrown a blocks of wood and being told that if you cut the wood into the right shapes it would work just as well as Legos.Skie7

I get what you're saying, but I don't think that was Nintendo's intention at all. When I look at it, I think Nintendo realized how familiar developers were with making games for the consoles of last gen and thought that making a system that was similar in structure would make it easier for developers to produce quality titles out of the gate. And when you consider that the Wii had a new control interface to work with, you probably don't want a lot of developers trying to figure out how to make use of a new system's hardware while also trying to come up with a control scheme. From what I hear, the Wii is very similar to the GameCube in the way that games can be made for it, and the GCN was considered to be the easiest system to make games for last gen. Also, I don't think the general complaint with the Wii is trying to impliment "next-gen" graphics as much as it is to make games that don't look like PS2 games, as developers clearly have much more to work with than that. To use your analogy, it feels like developers are trying to cut wood when they actually have some Legos to work with and are doing a very bad job with the cutting. :P