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#1 motorstormhater
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i just hired this game for the weekend and normally i don't really care about the content of the game e.g GTA 4 or other games of that type. But this game is just ridiculous as your main task is to deal and buy drugs, im not even a parent (im 16) and i was pissed off that content like this is allowed in avideo-game. I know that most crime games are not completely innocent of bad content but even GTA4 does not glorify drug dealing the way that china town wars does. i mean it has you actively making decisions on how to profit from buying and selling drugs, in my opinion that is just taking gameinteractivitytoo far and giving video game haters perfectly reasonable excuses to say thatvideo-gamesare evil and cause people to act criminally. Not only this but how on earth can the Australian classification board ban a game like Fallout 3 for its use of morphine and then allow a game that actually lets you make money by dealing drugs!

In my opinion GTA china town wars is extremelyinappropriate and should not have been allowed to hit markets in any country. Its incredible gameplay is ruined because of is explicit drug content. What are your thoughts on this game and if anyone knows what is the Australian board of classifications excuse for not banning this game?

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#2 R4gn4r0k
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So killing people in a video game is okay for you, but dealing drugs isn't ?

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#3 djrobst
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gta has always had drug references. one of the vice city games you sold drugs out of a ice cream van. all gta games are inappropiate. theres always something you can take offence against. in most countries being 16 isnt even old enough to play. so u play is inappropiate to be honest. its a game meant for people who are 18 really
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#4 motorstormhater
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well i see what you mean but when you kill someone in the game it dosent really reward as much as this game does for dealing drugs. plus there is a massive difference between killing someone in a videogame and dealing drugs, as you probably know there are always gonna be those parents that dont give a turd about the games their kids play and if they learn that dealing drugs is a good way to make money they might take that up. But if they see someone getting killed in a videogame most people know that killing is absolutely unacceptable in real life

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#5 gamemorg
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I agree.

But as a review on Gamespot states:

You can play outa majority of the game by being in the trade a minimal ammount. For those that are offended, it is a relief.

Or somthing along those lines xD

Though it is pretty bad, just not THAT bad imo

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#6 motorstormhater
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gta has always had drug references. one of the vice city games you sold drugs out of a ice cream van. all gta games are inappropiate. theres always something you can take offence against. in most countries being 16 isnt even old enough to play. so u play is inappropiate to be honest. its a game meant for people who are 18 really djrobst
i know that other GTA games have drug references but they dont have you actively making decisions about how you deal those drugs. and do you really need to play a game about dealing drugs? whycouldn'tthey have just sticked to the old money system (mission payment)? and do you really believe that only people over 18 play this game? i play cod against 12 year olds and that is the same rating as CTW

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#7 motorstormhater
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I agree.

But as a review on Gamespot states:

You can play outa majority of the game by being in the trade a minimal ammount. For those that are offended, it is a relief.

Or somthing along those lines xD

Though it is pretty bad, just not THAT bad imo

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well as i only rented the game i wont be playing it again. Dont really like top down games anyway

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#8 R4gn4r0k
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well i see what you mean but when you kill someone in the game it dosent really reward as much as this game does for dealing drugs. plus there is a massive difference between killing someone in a videogame and dealing drugs, as you probably know there are always gonna be those parents that dont give a turd about the games their kids play and if they learn that dealing drugs is a good way to make money they might take that up. But if they see someone getting killed in a videogame most people know that killing is absolutely unacceptable in real life

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I understand but in the GTA series you play as a ganster so most of the stuff you do in those games (stealing cars, killing people, dealing drugs, etc.) would be wrong in real life, no ?

There is also the fact that if you deal drugs in the game the police comes after you so maybe kids remember that dealing drugs makes lots of money but can get you into jail.

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#9 Rekunta
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As someone who is an older gamer, I'm glad for this inclusion. Given the nature of GTA, what did you expect? Killing people is much worse. Having sex withand then stabbing a prostitute to death (and then taking her money, hence a reward) make the drug dealing mini-game pale in comparison.

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[QUOTE="djrobst"]gta has always had drug references. one of the vice city games you sold drugs out of a ice cream van. all gta games are inappropiate. theres always something you can take offence against. in most countries being 16 isnt even old enough to play. so u play is inappropiate to be honest. its a game meant for people who are 18 really

This guy basically covers everything. The game is meant for 18+, and not any one younger. You shouldn't be playing in the first place. Also all GTA games are loaded with crime-related and inappropriate material.
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#11 -Corruption-
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it should have been banned...

i havent played it, but it sounds like they went too far.

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#12 SpinoRaptor24
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Drug dealing inappropriate in a GTA game? Geez dude...That's why it has a mature rating.

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#13 motorstormhater
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[QUOTE="djrobst"]gta has always had drug references. one of the vice city games you sold drugs out of a ice cream van. all gta games are inappropiate. theres always something you can take offence against. in most countries being 16 isnt even old enough to play. so u play is inappropiate to be honest. its a game meant for people who are 18 really Hegna1
This guy basically covers everything. The game is meant for 18+, and not any one younger. You shouldn't be playing in the first place. Also all GTA games are loaded with crime-related and inappropriate material.

becuase of Australias stupid classification rules anything that deserves an R 18 gets MA 15 because they ont want and r rating

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#14 mr-krinkles
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Dude just chill out and smoke a J or something.

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#15 ace-of-spades93
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thats why its an 18

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The rating is M, 17+, you shouldn't even be playing it.
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at the end of the day, it is just a game, AND that is why games have ratings. Games and reality are different things and I really dislike when people try and put blame on the game rather than the person. If a person after playing GTA now decides to attempt drug dealing then I think the person has issues and not the game
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#18 Dgalmun
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Dude it's just a freaking game you're not going to get arrested from playing that game just because you kill people and deal drugs. GTA has always have violence and drugs, live with it.

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#19 PSPplayer988
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Yes the game is meant for those 17 (in the US) and older but wat he is saying is right that much drug dealing in a game is no good. The good thing is those that hate GTA:CTW you most likely wont see a sequal to the game because it tanked in sles because of it M rating. DS is a kids system even tho i have one and im 18. I didnt think this game looked to great anyway

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#20 feryl06
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I think you're being a bit hypocritical---do you enjoy other games where you kill and get points/money for it?

i just hired this game for the weekend and normally i don't really care about the content of the game e.g GTA 4 or other games of that type. But this game is just ridiculous as your main task is to deal and buy drugs, im not even a parent (im 16) and i was pissed off that content like this is allowed in avideo-game. I know that most crime games are not completely innocent of bad content but even GTA4 does not glorify drug dealing the way that china town wars does. i mean it has you actively making decisions on how to profit from buying and selling drugs, in my opinion that is just taking gameinteractivitytoo far and giving video game haters perfectly reasonable excuses to say thatvideo-gamesare evil and cause people to act criminally. Not only this but how on earth can the Australian classification board ban a game like Fallout 3 for its use of morphine and then allow a game that actually lets you make money by dealing drugs!

In my opinion GTA china town wars is extremelyinappropriate and should not have been allowed to hit markets in any country. Its incredible gameplay is ruined because of is explicit drug content. What are your thoughts on this game and if anyone knows what is the Australian board of classifications excuse for not banning this game?

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But I fail to see how drug dealing is worse than assassination> I mean we have a game like madworld and such where the whole purpose of it is to kill, and then we have GTA DS where drug dealing is only a side mission at most.
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i just hired this game for the weekend and normally i don't really care about the content of the game e.g GTA 4 or other games of that type. But this game is just ridiculous as your main task is to deal and buy drugs, im not even a parent (im 16) and i was pissed off that content like this is allowed in avideo-game. I know that most crime games are not completely innocent of bad content but even GTA4 does not glorify drug dealing the way that china town wars does. i mean it has you actively making decisions on how to profit from buying and selling drugs, in my opinion that is just taking gameinteractivitytoo far and giving video game haters perfectly reasonable excuses to say thatvideo-gamesare evil and cause people to act criminally. Not only this but how on earth can the Australian classification board ban a game like Fallout 3 for its use of morphine and then allow a game that actually lets you make money by dealing drugs!

In my opinion GTA china town wars is extremelyinappropriate and should not have been allowed to hit markets in any country. Its incredible gameplay is ruined because of is explicit drug content. What are your thoughts on this game and if anyone knows what is the Australian board of classifications excuse for not banning this game?

motorstormhater

1. Get over it.

2. You're not supposed to be playing this game anyway. Here, play Bolt instead.

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#23 BigBen11111
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Video games is really a form of drug, it's addictive to most.

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#24 atlanta_guy
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So killing people in a video game is okay for you, but dealing drugs isn't ?

R4gn4r0k

GREAT POINT. It is a game. A video game. It is not real. IT'S A VIDEO GAME AND IT'S NOT REAL. uh HELLO?

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#25 shyshyshy
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The game was totally upfront about their genre. They weren't hiding the mere fact that the game is intended for mature gamers only. If you've read promotional ads for this particular game, even reviews , you'll find the very nature of this particular GTA game. The ratings are basically there for a reason. You can't get more specific than that. You cannot blame devs for making this game or even publishers for putting up with this one. They have made all the necessary procedures to make sure people will not be taken aback once they play this game. The fact that you've picked up this game and I'm guessing you've done so because of the hype is poignantly apt that devs were not at fault here. The bottom line is: don't play it if you don't want to--or in this case, if you are not legal enough to do so.

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#26 ganga_
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well i see what you mean but when you kill someone in the game it dosent really reward as much as this game does for dealing drugs. plus there is a massive difference between killing someone in a videogame and dealing drugs, as you probably know there are always gonna be those parents that dont give a turd about the games their kids play and if they learn that dealing drugs is a good way to make money they might take that up. But if they see someone getting killed in a videogame most people know that killing is absolutely unacceptable in real life

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as some other people already stated, i dont see a "massive difference between killing someone in a videogame and dealing drugs". u say the drug dealing gets more rewarded, really? u are right u get some rewards for finding more then 40 drug dealers or earning an amount of money, but u dont have to do that. on the other hand u HAVE TO kill people, otherwise u cant play through the whole game. somehow u also assume that kids learn that dealing is a good way to make money, but u dont assume that they learn that killing people or stealing cars is a good way of living. its a mature game so i dont see a problem. furthermore i dont share ur personal morality that drugs are totally bad, but killing people is totally fine.
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#27 dr_doongy
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it's just a game. what bothered me about the drug dealing more than anything else was that it was the only significant way to make any money, and dealing drugs took too much time walking/driving to different locations lol. i'm lazy like that.

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#28 paulovesatan
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wow.... a 16-year-old pushing for censorship and torching of the 1st ammendment. what the hell is world coming to????

...come to think of it, i don't think they have a first ammendment in Australia

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Unless you are a newbie to video-gaming and didnt know this, it is WELL known that the GTA series is all about gang related violence and crime as you play the role of a gangster or at least one that wants to be. All the other GTA games have you stealing cars, mugging random people, beating them with bats/clubs, gunning them down, driving over them, shooting at cops, ramming other cars, cops and so forth. The list goes on and on. Did you expect the DS version of a GTA game to have flowers and Kirby type giddy-feeling goodness?! And not to mention, if you actually had bothered to look on the box: you will see that its even rated for players OLDER then you currently are! So... instead of griping about game related content that you should not even be playing, better go back to barney and the sandbox games! (insert sarcasm here, you know what i mean...)
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wow.... a 16-year-old pushing for censorship and torching of the 1st ammendment. what the hell is world coming to????

paulovesatan

I dont believe he is 16 or she whatever but srsly if it makes you so angry dont play the game.

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#31 meiaman
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at the end of the day, it is just a game, AND that is why games have ratings. Games and reality are different things and I really dislike when people try and put blame on the game rather than the person. If a person after playing GTA now decides to attempt drug dealing then I think the person has issues and not the gamedonaldo1989
So the basic idea is, blame the person, not the weapon, am i right? XD
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Unless you are a newbie to video-gaming and didnt know this, it is WELL known that the GTA series is all about gang related violence and crime as you play the role of a gangster or at least one that wants to be. All the other GTA games have you stealing cars, mugging random people, beating them with bats/clubs, gunning them down, driving over them, shooting at cops, ramming other cars, cops and so forth. The list goes on and on. Did you expect the DS version of a GTA game to have flowers and Kirby type giddy-feeling goodness?! And not to mention, if you actually had bothered to look on the box: you will see that its even rated for players OLDER then you currently are! So... instead of griping about game related content that you should not even be playing, better go back to barney and the sandbox games! (insert sarcasm here, you know what i mean...)Tyson8earzz
you made me laugh there man but everything you said explains it all.

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#33 Troqe
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I just bought a DS and GTA:CTW and haven't got to the bit where you sell drugs but that sounds like nothing. They don't force you to do it so get over it, just because you won't see Mario dealing with drugs in the average DS game, though those mushrooms are suspicous.

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#34 motorstormhater
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[QUOTE="paulovesatan"]

wow.... a 16-year-old pushing for censorship and torching of the 1st ammendment. what the hell is world coming to????

Mage_7

I dont believe he is 16 or she whatever but srsly if it makes you so angry dont play the game.

well thats your opinion. I swear on my own grave that i am 16. And what the hell is the first ammendment

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[QUOTE="Tyson8earzz"]Unless you are a newbie to video-gaming and didnt know this, it is WELL known that the GTA series is all about gang related violence and crime as you play the role of a gangster or at least one that wants to be. All the other GTA games have you stealing cars, mugging random people, beating them with bats/clubs, gunning them down, driving over them, shooting at cops, ramming other cars, cops and so forth. The list goes on and on. Did you expect the DS version of a GTA game to have flowers and Kirby type giddy-feeling goodness?! And not to mention, if you actually had bothered to look on the box: you will see that its even rated for players OLDER then you currently are! So... instead of griping about game related content that you should not even be playing, better go back to barney and the sandbox games! (insert sarcasm here, you know what i mean...)TriniPlayer

you made me laugh there man but everything you said explains it all.

and if you had bothered to read some of the posts at the start of the topic you would have learned that in australia this game is rated MA **15**+ not 18 (like it should be)

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I agree, you should be able to kill all you want, but dealing drugs to make money is teh bad! ... oh wait.
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#37 xraystar
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why are you complaining? you're not even old enough to be touching that game. besides, you can get through the majority of that game without even dealing drugs. remember - its only a game!
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#39 KurodaMurasaki
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why are you complaining? you're not even old enough to be touching that game. besides, you can get through the majority of that game without even dealing drugs. remember - its only a game!xraystar

Cerally.

Drug dealing is a mini-game you can choose to participate in, it's not the main objective of the game.

I'm sure people were even more pissed when the first video-game killed innocent people. I believe drug-dealing is slightly less offensive than massacre.

I guess people are just used to it now. Go figure.

How about you go check out RapeLay.

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i just hired this game for the weekend and normally i don't really care about the content of the game e.g GTA 4 or other games of that type. But this game is just ridiculous as your main task is to deal and buy drugs, im not even a parent (im 16) and i was pissed off that content like this is allowed in avideo-game. I know that most crime games are not completely innocent of bad content but even GTA4 does not glorify drug dealing the way that china town wars does. i mean it has you actively making decisions on how to profit from buying and selling drugs, in my opinion that is just taking gameinteractivitytoo far and giving video game haters perfectly reasonable excuses to say thatvideo-gamesare evil and cause people to act criminally. Not only this but how on earth can the Australian classification board ban a game like Fallout 3 for its use of morphine and then allow a game that actually lets you make money by dealing drugs!

In my opinion GTA china town wars is extremelyinappropriate and should not have been allowed to hit markets in any country. Its incredible gameplay is ruined because of is explicit drug content. What are your thoughts on this game and if anyone knows what is the Australian board of classifications excuse for not banning this game?

motorstormhater

I hear ya. Personally, I love the game, but you're right. This sort of stuff is totally innapropriate and shouldn't be allowed in videogames.

But I never felt like the game was glorifyingdrug use. All the drug users are total losers who have no lives, and usually have embarrasing speech impediments. And the main character of the game makes fun of them, and doesn't personally use drugs. I've got no argument for the dealing aspect, though. It's pretty much just not okay :P

I think that since it's a cartoony videogame it's really not that big of a deal. I mean, I'm personally VERY anti-drug, and a silly game like this isn't going to change that. But to be fair, the game is rated M for a reason.

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#41 Morl2009
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I have never found drug use to be a major problem in the Grand Theft Auto series, and neither do most people. The controversies I hear about the most are about violence and sex. In Vice City, in order to unlock the Cherry Popper Ice Cream Factory asset, you had to make a certain number of drug deals in a row within a time limit. This part of this game never offended people. It was the indiscriminate killing that did. I've never done drugs and I hate them. This is not real though. You're not 'actually' dealing drugs when you play these games. If you are afraid that by playing a game with drugs in it, a person will consequently think they are cool and use them in real life, then the same could be said for the violence. It 's a game about thugs. The drug side quests in Grand Theft Auto are not hurting anyone, and if they offend you, don't play the games anymore.