Too Much Negativity

Personally I'm getting sick of going on the Wii Board and seeing nothing but fanboys relentlessly bashing games without cause and just plain being negative for the sake of being negative.

The Conduit seems to be getting the most bashing and honestly I can't understand why; it includes nearly everything someone looks for in a good multiplayer online FPS game. People say The Conduit lacks originality but really, how many of the FPS games on 360 or PS3 are really ground breaking? Plus The Conduit includes many gameplay functions only possible with the Wii remote as well as unique weapons that take advantage of the Wii remote.

Madden 2010 seems to be getting smashed based soley on it's art style. Grand Slam Tennis has the exact same art style and everyone is saying they like the clean bright look it has... double standard for Madden maybe? Why not look at the possitives; the graphics look clean and polished, the animations are fluid, and the gameplay looks like fun. If I'm going to complain about anything regarding this game it would be EA's complete lack of effort with the online thus far. The Wii can't produce photo realism like the 360 or PS3 so EA is just doing the best they can to make Madden look pretty in it's own way on Wii. Also people seem to be forgetting that Madden 07 was heavily praised for having incredible controls, if anything those controls and gameplay have gotten better with more logical button mapping and "call your shots".

Some other games that receive relentless bashing include Zelda Twilight Princess and Super Smash Bros Brawl which are among the best games Wii and Nintendo for that matter have to offer. I'm not saying people shouldn't express their opinion but it's just plain stupid to relentlessly bash.

Because this game is worse than your average shooter. Its that simple. If you cant handle other peoples opinions stop going to gamespot.

Because this game is worse than your average shooter. Its that simple. If you cant handle other peoples opinions stop going to gamespot.

Hungry_Jello

[QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]

Because this game is worse than your average shooter. Its that simple. If you cant handle other peoples opinions stop going to gamespot.

SiK99

There's something called "Reviews".

[QUOTE="SiK99"][QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]

Because this game is worse than your average shooter. Its that simple. If you cant handle other peoples opinions stop going to gamespot.

awssk8er716

There's something called "Reviews".

[QUOTE="SiK99"][QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"] How do you know its worse without playing it? Its release date is two months away. awssk8er716

There's something called "Reviews".

Personally I'm getting sick of going on the Wii Board and seeing nothing but fanboys relentlessly bashing games without cause and just plain being negative for the sake of being negative.

The Conduit seems to be getting the most bashing and honestly I can't understand why; it includes nearly everything someone looks for in a good multiplayer online FPS game. People say The Conduit lacks originality but really, how many of the FPS games on 360 or PS3 are really ground breaking? Plus The Conduit includes many gameplay functions only possible with the Wii remote as well as unique weapons that take advantage of the Wii remote.

Madden 2010 seems to be getting smashed based soley on it's art style. Grand Slam Tennis has the exact same art style and everyone is saying they like the clean bright look it has... double standard for Madden maybe? Why not look at the possitives; the graphics look clean and polished, the animations are fluid, and the gameplay looks like fun. If I'm going to complain about anything regarding this game it would be EA's complete lack of effort with the online thus far. The Wii can't produce photo realism like the 360 or PS3 so EA is just doing the best they can to make Madden look pretty in it's own way on Wii. Also people seem to be forgetting that Madden 07 was heavily praised for having incredible controls, if anything those controls and gameplay have gotten better with more logical button mapping and "call your shots".

Some other games that receive relentless bashing include Zelda Twilight Princess and Super Smash Bros Brawl which are among the best games Wii and Nintendo for that matter have to offer. I'm not saying people shouldn't express their opinion but it's just plain stupid to relentlessly bash.

umcommon

don't waste your time man.

this forum is filled with people that remind me of the "witch hunters" from back in the old days. People like yourself, and me....are the witches in their eyes.

We were burnt alive, and that's all that will happen here. Flame, after flame.

Don't waste your time voicing your opinion, it does no good. Trust me

conduit isnt going to be good my reason are

1) only 12 players online

2) single player seems uninteresting

3) wii speak only able to talk to people in a certain radius kill team work

4)graphic and textures look bad

5) sounds gun fire sounds weird

again this may be the best fps for the wii but i still think it going to suck i feel bad for the people that only own a wii and want a fps

conduit isnt going to be good my reason are

1) only 12 players online

2) single player seems uninteresting

3) wii speak only able to talk to people in a certain radius kill team work

4)graphic and textures look bad

5) sounds gun fire sounds weird

again this may be the best fps for the wii but i still think it going to suck i feel bad for the people that only own a wii and want a fps

carter15kd5

This thread does very little to remedy any of that negativity. Infact this in inviting even more criticism.

[QUOTE="SiK99"][QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]

Because this game is worse than your average shooter. Its that simple. If you cant handle other peoples opinions stop going to gamespot.

awssk8er716

There's something called "Reviews".

This thread does very little to remedy any of that negativity. Infact this in inviting even more criticism.

_BlueDuck_

that's exactly what i was thinking, and we have at least a couple of these now

And yeh to be honest it will mostly be gamers who only have the Wii who will buy Conduit. stike22

really? I have a gaming PC and a 360 and I'm anxious to get my hands on The Conduit. :| It looks like an incredible FPS title for the Wii and I find it no more generic then HL2, Halo, Killzone and the Call of Duty games. TBH the game looks really impressive when you actually see it running and the story goes much deeper then most would even think. I think many will be pleasantly surprised with this one. :)

[QUOTE="stike22"]And yeh to be honest it will mostly be gamers who only have the Wii who will buy Conduit. Nedemis

really? I have a gaming PC and a 360 and I'm anxious to get my hands on The Conduit. :| It looks like an incredible FPS title for the Wii and I find it no more generic then HL2, Halo, Killzone and the Call of Duty games. TBH the game looks really impressive when you actually see it running and the story goes much deeper then most would even think. I think many will be pleasantly surprised with this one. :)

As I said MOSTLY...I don't think many people who have Crysis on PC and Killzone 2 on PS3 and Gears + Halo on X360 would be interested in this title, I own or have played all those games as well and yeh I will play Conduit but seriously...if people had the choice Crysis or Conduit what game do you think MOST people would pick? and even if they do play it will they like itafter playing Crysis or Halo? I very much doubt it, but whatever I'll judge it when it comes hope its as good as you want it to be mate.

players who own next gen consoles but are deprived of motion controls for FPS games(which allow even generic shooters to be a lot more enjoyable) should be attracted as well.Im a case.intro94

conduit isnt going to be good my reason are The Conduit is going to be a good game

1) only 12 players online 12 is enough, any more than that then it gets to caotic

2) single player seems uninteresting Impossible to determine without playing

3) wii speak only able to talk to people in a certain radius kill team work There is no radius limit, it is the closest 6 people

4)graphic and textures look bad This game looks as good as Galaxy if not better

5) sounds gun fire sounds weird No comment

again this may be the best fps for the wii but i still think it going to suck i feel bad for the people that only own a wii and want a fps

carter15kd5

[QUOTE="carter15kd5"]

conduit isnt going to be good my reason are

1) only 12 players online

2) single player seems uninteresting

3) wii speak only able to talk to people in a certain radius kill team work

4)graphic and textures look bad

5) sounds gun fire sounds weird

again this may be the best fps for the wii but i still think it going to suck i feel bad for the people that only own a wii and want a fps

Sepewrath

Well thank GOD this thread will change that.AlexSays

Lol, I'm not being funny but nothing is gonna change until the game comes out and people see for themselves and even when they do you can be sure that there will probably still be a bunch of complainers.

Opinions differ based on experiences theres nothing anyone can do to change that, so if people are gonna be negative well not much you can do to stop them and one thread most certainly won't change that, the only thing that can is the game itself and that still ain't out yet...so we all have another 2months...no wait 1month nowof people bashing and defending Conduit...enjoy.

Concerning negativity towards The Conduit.... I can't help but think of the hype leading up to Brawl and the disappointment that followed. That's an amazing, high-quality game, yet there was still a fairly large group of people who felt that it didn't meet expectations.

It's good to have a check against that kind of hype. Brawl didn't really have many nay-sayers, at least among Nintendo fans, so the hype went mostly unchecked. For The Conduit, we can just ignore the ones who are being unreasonable and take heed to those who point things out that we might've overlooked or not noticed because of excitement.

About Madden.... The art style comes off as uncreative to me, and if they wanted to go a different visual route for the Wii, they could've done a much better job. But as far as the overall game goes, we don't know enough to make sweeping judgments. What are the new gameplay elements? How's the online this year? Have they improved motion controls? All of these issues are more important than a lack-luster look in a football game.

[QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]

Because this game is worse than your average shooter. Its that simple. If you cant handle other peoples opinions stop going to gamespot.

SiK99

i agree man, just hope for better games in the future XDDD I hope there are more nintendo 1st party releases :P

[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

[QUOTE="SiK99"]

There's something called "Reviews".

SiK99

From some peoples views those games do have problems, they may not be out but people can see things they don't like from trailers such as graphs or phyics. That doesn't mean they won't be good games but its something they don't like about the game which they have noticed, sometimes you can tell a game is gonna be crap merely by looking at it, especially if you have been playing games for ages. stike22

I hate it when Haziq and some others say this sentence. Mostly Haziq.................. People who buy the Wii aren't setting their standards low or know they are about to run into these limitations. They think the hardware will at least be able to tango with the other systems. This scenario applies to a lot of casuals.

I hate it when Haziq and some others say this sentence. Mostly Haziq.................. People who buy the Wii aren't setting their standards low or know they are about to run into these limitations. They think the hardware will at least be able to tango with the other systems. This scenario applies to a lot of casuals.Hungry_Jello

Edit: I'm talking in terms of graphics, not game quality, just so you know. People who bought the Wii near launch expecting a library of typical games didn't really have any obvious way to know that the Wii wouldn't have as much to offer there as might've been expected. But newer Wii owners should generally know what types of games to expect, though we don't really know what the future might hold.

hate it when Haziq and some others say this sentence. Mostly Haziq.................. People who buy the Wii aren't setting their standards low or know they are about to run into these limitations. They think the hardware will at least be able to tango with the other systems. This scenario applies to a lot of casuals.

Hungry_Jello

Its not about setting low standards -In fact, I'd say I actually expect a higher standard from developers, being challenged by having this new machine that does not rely on power to make impressive titles.

People on this forum know how powerful it is compared to the other consoles - and as such - should have the common knowledge to know games that require more power will not translate well over to the Wii.

I mean it's not rocket science to anyone who browses this forum to know that with the Wii, the hardware is limited when compared to the others - but as I said before, its not about low standards.

[QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]I hate it when Haziq and some others say this sentence. Mostly Haziq.................. People who buy the Wii aren't setting their standards low or know they are about to run into these limitations. They think the hardware will at least be able to tango with the other systems. This scenario applies to a lot of casuals.JordanElek

Edit: I'm talking in terms of graphics, not game quality, just so you know. People who bought the Wii near launch expecting a library of typical games didn't really have any obvious way to know that the Wii wouldn't have as much to offer there as might've been expected. But newer Wii owners should generally know what types of games to expect, though we don't really know what the future might hold.

[QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"] hate it when Haziq and some others say this sentence. Mostly Haziq.................. People who buy the Wii aren't setting their standards low or know they are about to run into these limitations. They think the hardware will at least be able to tango with the other systems. This scenario applies to a lot of casuals.

Haziqonfire

Its not about setting low standards -In fact, I'd say I actually expect a higher standard from developers, being challenged by having this new machine that does not rely on power to make impressive titles.

People on this forum know how powerful it is compared to the other consoles - and as such - should have the common knowledge to know games that require more power will not translate well over to the Wii.

I mean it's not rocket science to anyone who browses this forum to know that with the Wii, the hardware is limited when compared to the others - but as I said before, its not about low standards.

Yeah I know. I was talking about not just GS. The world. Anyways were getting off topic from the subject at hand. :P

[QUOTE="JordanElek"]

[QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]I hate it when Haziq and some others say this sentence. Mostly Haziq.................. People who buy the Wii aren't setting their standards low or know they are about to run into these limitations. They think the hardware will at least be able to tango with the other systems. This scenario applies to a lot of casuals.Pyro767

Edit: I'm talking in terms of graphics, not game quality, just so you know. People who bought the Wii near launch expecting a library of typical games didn't really have any obvious way to know that the Wii wouldn't have as much to offer there as might've been expected. But newer Wii owners should generally know what types of games to expect, though we don't really know what the future might hold.

The Wii is in really good shape. Regardless of how much negativity it gets, there's enough of us that appreciate what Nintendo provides for us in the gaming industry. There's no denying that the Wii is making such a huge positive impact in the gaming industry that it definitely deserves to be remembered as one of the best video game consoles of all time.

To be honest it is partly Nintendo's fault it all depends on what fans we are talking about, there are plenty of fans out there that researched the Wii and knew about it ages before it came out and there were games promised for it that never happened. Some of these fans have played their fav titles on Wii for instance Zelda and felt let down and disappointed by how easy it was compared to previous Zelda titles, some fans are sick of the amount of shovelware on Wii compared to decent quality games that get released...seriously there are plenty of fans all with different reasons for not liking the console or the library of gamesand part of it is Nintendo's fault.

To be honest it is partly Nintendo's fault it all depends on what fans we are talking about, there are plenty of fans out there that researched the Wii and knew about it ages before it came out and there were games promised for it that never happened. Some of these fans have played their fav titles on Wii for instance Zelda and felt let down and disappointed by how easy it was compared to previous Zelda titles, some fans are sick of the amount of shovelware on Wii compared to decent quality games that get released...seriously there are plenty of fans all with different reasons for not liking the console and part of it is Nintendo's fault.stike22

[QUOTE="stike22"]To be honest it is partly Nintendo's fault it all depends on what fans we are talking about, there are plenty of fans out there that researched the Wii and knew about it ages before it came out and there were games promised for it that never happened. Some of these fans have played their fav titles on Wii for instance Zelda and felt let down and disappointed by how easy it was compared to previous Zelda titles, some fans are sick of the amount of shovelware on Wii compared to decent quality games that get released...seriously there are plenty of fans all with different reasons for not liking the console and part of it is Nintendo's fault.Pyro767

Yep World of Goo was brilliant, and I don't know about strangle third party devs...throw them of the highest building I can find prehaps but strangling them maybe just too kind Lol. What really does it for me is how fast they make this crap and ship it worldwide...it just amazes me at how fast they can mass produce and transport that **** to my country like I want it or something. Lol.stike22

I think the negativity you're seeing has a lot to do with the direction Nintendo is going. Trying to cater to everyone instead of 'gamers'. And mostly the people on these forums are gamers, therefore it makes sense why you read about people complaining about Wii. That being said as a sci-fi fan, I do think the Conduit looks really cool. Other than that I honestly don't respect Nintendo as a company because it doesn't listen to its audience.

[QUOTE="stike22"]Yep World of Goo was brilliant, and I don't know about strangle third party devs...throw them of the highest building I can find prehaps but strangling them maybe just too kind Lol. What really does it for me is how fast they make this crap and ship it worldwide...it just amazes me at how fast they can mass produce and transport that **** to my country like I want it or something. Lol.Pyro767

I have a question though.
The people that don't like The Conduit(one of them is me).We constantly get the whole 'have you played it?'
Well,my question is..How many people here that actually like The Conduit have played..Just checking.