ToS DotNW: Second plot? I wish. (1st chapter spoilers)

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#1 Xenexis
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Hey I am kind of annoyed because ToS2 has no extra plots. It gives you choices yet no mater what you chose the plot goes on like it would if you chose the other plot. Like when Richter is trying to kill Marta, you chose stop Richter or stop Marta. But if you chose to stop Marta then you end up saving her :o . or when you fight Lloyd if you beat him the cutscene still is you and Marta lying knocked out on the floor when he grabs lumen's core. If he loses he should run grab the core and jump on his Rheard and fly off. And I want to join the Vanguard. But no once again the plot is compleatly one way. No choices. Even though there are multiple parts of the story that say there is always another way. That was kind of hypocritical.:roll: Then when you chose swear or dont swear at Lloyd the great. You always end up showing your hatred to Lloyd infront of the bulleys. Plot should change. Even if it is only a little. There should be atleast two main plots. Join the Vanguard or help Marta. Your opinion any one?

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#2 lostpariah
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i played the 1st TOS but couldn't beat it. sad :(

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#3 Xenexis
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I bought the first one online but it is still coming. Hope its as good as the second or better... if posible. The second was realy fun! Emil was a great charictor. And so was marta.

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Yeah I agree there should've been more choices like that in the game, but some of that stuff does matter for whether you get the good ending or the bad ending. Alot of those choices like if you choose to swear allegience to Lloyd decide if you get the good ending or the bad ending. But yeah that would've been cool if you could join the vanguard. :O
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#5 death919
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I bought the first one online but it is still coming. Hope its as good as the second or better... if posible. The second was realy fun! Emil was a great charictor. And so was marta.

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I liked the first one better than the second but both were awesome, the only thing is that Emil and Marta aren't in the first one and Lloyd is the main character instead but it's really awesome.
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[QUOTE="death919"]Yeah I agree there should've been more choices like that in the game, but some of that stuff does matter for whether you get the good ending or the bad ending. Alot of those choices like if you choose to swear allegience to Lloyd decide if you get the good ending or the bad ending. But yeah that would've been cool if you could join the vanguard. :O

I dont think that matters. SPOILER [spoiler] You get the good ending if you lose and the bad ending if you win the final battle.... [/spoiler]
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#7 BrunoBRS
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just saying... try to avoid abbreviating the whole name of the game... avoids people entering the thread just to find out what the hell that stands for.
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It will be verry fun having Lloyd not cap level at 50. And I heard that one of the grade shop endings was keep map data. LOL Go fight the final boss with Just Lloyd at lv 1. That would be entertaning.

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#9 Xenexis
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just saying... try to avoid abbreviating the whole name of the game... avoids people entering the thread just to find out what the hell that stands for.BrunoBRS

Yes but the problem with that is Would you like a thread that is this long?

Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the new world second plot? I wish. (1st chapter spoiler)

I think that would be so long that they would not see the (1st chapter spoiler) part. And enter. Just a thought.

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[QUOTE="death919"]Yeah I agree there should've been more choices like that in the game, but some of that stuff does matter for whether you get the good ending or the bad ending. Alot of those choices like if you choose to swear allegience to Lloyd decide if you get the good ending or the bad ending. But yeah that would've been cool if you could join the vanguard. :Obionicle_lover
I dont think that matters. SPOILER [spoiler] You get the good ending if you lose and the bad ending if you win the final battle.... [/spoiler]

Oops I meantthings like swearing allegiance to the statue or not decide whether you get theGood ending or the Best ending, the best ending is[spoiler] where after the credits there's another cutscene and emil and marta get the Perfect Partner title [/spoiler] That's affected by choices through the game.

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#11 Xenexis
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How do you do the spoiler warning thing? is it (if this works then on the other side of the spoiler is not a spoiler) ***Spoiler*** then say what you want to say?

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]just saying... try to avoid abbreviating the whole name of the game... avoids people entering the thread just to find out what the hell that stands for.Xenexis

Yes but the problem with that is Would you like a thread that is this long?

Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the new world second plot? I wish. (1st chapter spoiler)

I think that would be so long that they would not see the (1st chapter spoiler) part. And enter. Just a thought.

abbreviate the "dawn of the new world", or even name it "tales of symphonia wii". it's not something you have to do, it just saves times of people who don't know what it means. it's not my case, BTW
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#13 Xenexis
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Well thanks Ill keep that in mind next thread I make.

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[QUOTE="bionicle_lover"][QUOTE="death919"]Yeah I agree there should've been more choices like that in the game, but some of that stuff does matter for whether you get the good ending or the bad ending. Alot of those choices like if you choose to swear allegience to Lloyd decide if you get the good ending or the bad ending. But yeah that would've been cool if you could join the vanguard. :Odeath919

I dont think that matters. SPOILER

Oops I meantthings like swearing allegiance to the statue or not decide whether you get theGood ending or the Best ending, the best ending is "cant quote spoiler" That's affected by choices through the game.

really? Now that just makes absolutely no sense XP i do think i got the title though i dont remember what i did. but that isnt exactly anything ground breaking? unless there's an extra cutscene. otherwise, its no good unless you want to start a new game, but i never really cared for titles and stuff... except that it actually changed costumes in the first game

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#15 Xenexis
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except that it actually changed costumes in the first game

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The first game is getting cooler and cooler the more you tell me about it. But the titles, I dont realy like some of them and some of them are just funny (like most of the ones that marta aquiers.) And the titles give you better level ups. Like the perfect title... Master of black and white (I think that is what it is called) It is awesome. If you keep titles from last game then you can get perfect lv ups on the third play through.

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Spoiler. This contains content that may ruin the game for you if you havent already seen this! Think before you copy paste this into the URL.

(The attatchment isnt working.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yej9xzUuqU8

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[QUOTE="death919"]Yeah I agree there should've been more choices like that in the game, but some of that stuff does matter for whether you get the good ending or the bad ending. Alot of those choices like if you choose to swear allegience to Lloyd decide if you get the good ending or the bad ending. But yeah that would've been cool if you could join the vanguard. :Obionicle_lover
I dont think that matters. SPOILER [spoiler] You get the good ending if you lose and the bad ending if you win the final battle.... [/spoiler]

Its not the final battle. Its just the battle against _________________________________________ then there is one more battle after that

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#18 bionicle_lover
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[QUOTE="bionicle_lover"]

except that it actually changed costumes in the first game

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The first game is getting cooler and cooler the more you tell me about it. But the titles, I dont realy like some of them and some of them are just funny (like most of the ones that marta aquiers.) And the titles give you better level ups. Like the perfect title... Master of black and white (I think that is what it is called) It is awesome. If you keep titles from last game then you can get perfect lv ups on the third play through.

this could be nostalgia talking but the first one blows the second one out of the water in almost ever aspect except for grinding, traveling (this is up to whether you like overworld maps, personally i dont cause i hate going somewhere then realizing they werent talking about that place and havign to go all the way back) and the subjective stuff like story. Otherwise, its got a really nice art style (personally i think the moves also look much deadlier and awesome in the first one, the DotNW moves looked weak to me but of course, could be bad memory), deeper character interaction, better voice acting (opinion), better production quality (not opinion) and MUCH more to do and customize. definitely pick it up if you can find it online somewhere. And, though this doesnt say much for the original game if you look at it objectively, but Tales of symphonia was the first and probably only jrpg (besides the dawn of the new world XP) that i have ever and will ever beat (unless valkyria chronicles starts to get more interersting)... i've played some other ones and they have all bored me half way through either by characters that annoyed the hell out of me, story that annoyed the hell out of me or long load times (tales of abyss had all three of these for me :P though i gotta say its battle system is probably the best out of the 4 tales games that i have played)
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Games out, it was alright, no fixing it now.

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#20 Xenexis
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[QUOTE="Xenexis"]

[QUOTE="bionicle_lover"]

except that it actually changed costumes in the first game

bionicle_lover

The first game is getting cooler and cooler the more you tell me about it. But the titles, I dont realy like some of them and some of them are just funny (like most of the ones that marta aquiers.) And the titles give you better level ups. Like the perfect title... Master of black and white (I think that is what it is called) It is awesome. If you keep titles from last game then you can get perfect lv ups on the third play through.

this could be nostalgia talking but the first one blows the second one out of the water in almost ever aspect except for grinding, traveling (this is up to whether you like overworld maps, personally i dont cause i hate going somewhere then realizing they werent talking about that place and havign to go all the way back) and the subjective stuff like story. Otherwise, its got a really nice art style (personally i think the moves also look much deadlier and awesome in the first one, the DotNW moves looked weak to me but of course, could be bad memory), deeper character interaction, better voice acting (opinion), better production quality (not opinion) and MUCH more to do and customize. definitely pick it up if you can find it online somewhere. And, though this doesnt say much for the original game if you look at it objectively, but Tales of symphonia was the first and probably only jrpg (besides the dawn of the new world XP) that i have ever and will ever beat (unless valkyria chronicles starts to get more interersting)... i've played some other ones and they have all bored me half way through either by characters that annoyed the hell out of me, story that annoyed the hell out of me or long load times (tales of abyss had all three of these for me :P though i gotta say its battle system is probably the best out of the 4 tales games that i have played)

Well remind me that the Symphonia sceries is better than the rest of the tales games every time I consider getting a PS2 or PS3

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#21 Xenexis
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Games out, it was alright, no fixing it now.

Shirokishi_

Well transformers and transformers2 both came out so that must mean no saying any thing bad about it. Riiiiiigggghhhhhtttttt?? Well The first one sucked and as far as I know so did the second. I dont want to find out.

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#22 Xenexis
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My favorite charictors were between Richter and tenebrae in the second one. Other then those two there was no one comparing to them.

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#23 Xenexis
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Hey any one got any thing to say?

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[QUOTE="bionicle_lover"][QUOTE="Xenexis"]

The first game is getting cooler and cooler the more you tell me about it. But the titles, I dont realy like some of them and some of them are just funny (like most of the ones that marta aquiers.) And the titles give you better level ups. Like the perfect title... Master of black and white (I think that is what it is called) It is awesome. If you keep titles from last game then you can get perfect lv ups on the third play through.

Xenexis

this could be nostalgia talking but the first one blows the second one out of the water in almost ever aspect except for grinding, traveling (this is up to whether you like overworld maps, personally i dont cause i hate going somewhere then realizing they werent talking about that place and havign to go all the way back) and the subjective stuff like story. Otherwise, its got a really nice art style (personally i think the moves also look much deadlier and awesome in the first one, the DotNW moves looked weak to me but of course, could be bad memory), deeper character interaction, better voice acting (opinion), better production quality (not opinion) and MUCH more to do and customize. definitely pick it up if you can find it online somewhere. And, though this doesnt say much for the original game if you look at it objectively, but Tales of symphonia was the first and probably only jrpg (besides the dawn of the new world XP) that i have ever and will ever beat (unless valkyria chronicles starts to get more interersting)... i've played some other ones and they have all bored me half way through either by characters that annoyed the hell out of me, story that annoyed the hell out of me or long load times (tales of abyss had all three of these for me :P though i gotta say its battle system is probably the best out of the 4 tales games that i have played)

Well remind me that the Symphonia sceries is better than the rest of the tales games every time I consider getting a PS2 or PS3

its not necessarily better than them... sometimes, it comes down to more than just one aspect of the game is what i meant :P.... and plus, no translated tales game on the ps3 anyway :D
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#25 Xenexis
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Well thanks for the heads up I guess.

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#26 Xenexis
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I have a question. When exactly does a thread turn hot? is it at 26 posts? 27? 28? 29? because none of those are realy round numbers and I remembered this is not a hot thread yet one at 29 is. Wierd.

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#27 Xenexis
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No body talking any more? Well I guess this thread is over. Again -.-