UGH!! Stupid cheaters in MKWii!!!

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#1 TwilightSoilder
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So, I've been playing MKWii online for a while now and I've found some hackers that really Pi$$ me off!!! For instantance, there was this guy how was in 1st place and got nailed by a blue shell and one second later he teleports somewhere else and then he teleports like 10 feet ahead of where he orignally was and ended up winning thwe race!!! :evil: I've had this happen to me many time and it annoys the heck out of me!!! How about you guys? Did this ever happen to you?
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#2 WiiMan21
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I've seen something similar to that, I saw a guy that whenever he falls off the edge he Magically teleports into first, so whenever he was last you would see him disappear and then see him in first place.
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#3 znator
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ya their are a few cheaters out there, Nintendo is dealing with them, slowly.
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#5 comstrikeiscool
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Are you all new to online gaming? It's not a hack....it's called lag.
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#6 air_wolf_cubed
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Are you all new to online gaming? It's not a hack....it called lag.comstrikeiscool
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#8 thebisonx
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That must be lag.
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#9 haziqonfire
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Its lag. Not cheating.
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#11 ahahaG
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i doubt it's cheating or he's honestly doing it. however this is odd if it is lag, because i never have seen anyone or myself lag
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#12 monty_4256
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that would be a lucky lagger you just described

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#13 TwilightSoilder
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i doubt it's cheating or he's honestly doing it. however this is odd if it is lag, because i never have seen anyone or myself lagahahaG
That's why I question the whole "It's the lag" idea. I've never had lag ONCE when I played MKWii online.
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#14 k_smoove
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I've seen something similar to that, I saw a guy that whenever he falls off the edge he Magically teleports into first, so whenever he was last you would see him disappear and then see him in first place.WiiMan21

That happened to me. A guy in last kept going over the edge, and then he magically appeared above me at the end and stole my victory. I actually saw him dropped right in front of me.

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[QUOTE="ahahaG"]i doubt it's cheating or he's honestly doing it. however this is odd if it is lag, because i never have seen anyone or myself lagTwilightSoilder
That's why I question the whole "It's the lag" idea. I've never had lag ONCE when I played MKWii online.

lag in this game isnt a slideshow like brawl is. its players skipping around the track
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#16 znator
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Are you all new to online gaming? It's not a hack....it's called lag.comstrikeiscool
well I haven't experienced this kind of Lag yet, so its new to me/
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#17 WiiMan21
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I know what lag is, and what I experience online that day was not lag.
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#18 Niff_T
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Great, soon people will figure out how to snake too!!!

*end sarcasm*

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#19 bobbetybob
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I know what lag is, and what I experience online that day was not lag.WiiMan21

Because Nintendo has an online system for dealing with lag, if someone has lag then the game will predict what they are doing until the lag stops, that's why you'll see someone flies off the track and then they are somewhere else, the computer was predicting it for a few seconds, and then they picked the connection back up and they are in a different place.

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#20 WiiMan21
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Maybe, Its just that I play a lot of online games and I've seen lag on Wii games, I saw that day did not look like lag.
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#21 bob_newman
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I've seen some weird things happen that lag can't explain.

For instance, yesterday (You can ask JordanElek because he was there too) I was playing Coin Runners on battle mode, and my girlfriend was losing coins even though nobody was around her and she didn't get hit by anything. Also, people would drive right through walls (though that one is probably lag), and a number of times I've hit a guy, my character does his little celebration as if he got a point, but I would get no points for hitting the guy.

I'm sure lag explains it all somehow, but I've done a lot of online gaming in my time, and I have to say that if this is lag, this is the weirdest lag that I've ever seen.

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#22 Timmy_Gwar
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[QUOTE="WiiMan21"]I know what lag is, and what I experience online that day was not lag.bobbetybob

Because Nintendo has an online system for dealing with lag, if someone has lag then the game will predict what they are doing until the lag stops, that's why you'll see someone flies off the track and then they are somewhere else, the computer was predicting it for a few seconds, and then they picked the connection back up and they are in a different place.

Think about lag in WoW, when your buddy starts lagging out on his screen all goes as normal aside from chat, but on your screen he/she keeps walking forward (sometimes off edges) and then get teleported back once the lag stops. Only this time he/she comes back in a different position because on thier screen they only moved ten feet left normally. If that helps...

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[QUOTE="TwilightSoilder"][QUOTE="ahahaG"]i doubt it's cheating or he's honestly doing it. however this is odd if it is lag, because i never have seen anyone or myself lagair_wolf_cubed
That's why I question the whole "It's the lag" idea. I've never had lag ONCE when I played MKWii online.

lag in this game isnt a slideshow like brawl is. its players skipping around the track

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#24 JordanElek
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The reason none of us have experience lag (at least how we might traditionally think of it) is because that's not how Mario Kart handles connection hiccups. Your own racer is never affected on your own screen. It doesn't play everything in exactly real-time, so weird stuff will seem to happen to someone on your screen, while on that person's screen, nothing strange is going on.

From what I can tell, if another player has a connection hiccup, his racer just dies on everyone else's screen. He'll just keep going straight, usually into a wall (or through a wall) or right off the edge. Once that hiccup is over, we'll see the racer where he is on his screen. So it looks like he's teleporting, but he's not.

This also affects the end of the race occasionally. Have you ever been in third place when you cross the finish line, only to end up getting fourth or fifth place in the rankings? Or have you ever shot a green shell at someone, and it goes right through him, only to have him fly up in the air a second later and the shell disappears? That's all due to lag. Everything ends up how it's supposed to, usually, but what we see on our screens can be a bit weird.

Needless to say, this is an infinitely better way to handle lag than in something like Brawl, where everybody slows down to make up for the hiccups. But for Brawl, that's actually better, I think. It would suck if everyone just hopped and skipped around and you didn't really know where they are at any given time. For Mario Kart, that isn't so pertinent.

Now the coin thing that bob mentioned, I can't explain. I lost maybe three coins in total due to a random -1 thing, even though no one was around me. Unless there's some item that I don't know about, this is either a glitch or a hack. I'm guessing a glitch.

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#25 comstrikeiscool
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Let me make something clear. Hacking on a console is extremely, extremely, extremely rare. I will not go into specifics (wouldn't want to get banned, :) ) The whole point is, its not worth a coders time to create a cheat for a console. They are primarily for pc games and I'll leave it at that.
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#26 Swixer-Swaxer
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So, I've been playing MKWii online for a while now and I've found some hackers that really Pi$$ me off!!! For instantance, there was this guy how was in 1st place and got nailed by a blue shell and one second later he teleports somewhere else and then he teleports like 10 feet ahead of where he orignally was and ended up winning thwe race!!! :evil: I've had this happen to me many time and it annoys the heck out of me!!! How about you guys? Did this ever happen to you?TwilightSoilder

unfourtunatly there will always be cheaters. Sad, acne ridden, 40 year old losers living in their mothers basements and living off Cheetoes and Coca Cola and we just have to let nintendo deal with it.

BTW there were no cheaters till USA got MK

BTW there was no lag till USA got MK

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#27 fmobliv06
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there's no lag in MKWii in my experience, and that would be some monsterous lag if it was enough for him to suddenly be in 1st place. i haven't had any experiences like that, and i hope i never do; i love MKWii's online play.
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#28 theweakbear
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It was probably lag. I know you say that you've never lagged, but I'm almost certain you have. Although the game may not have slowed down at all, the other players do. Its not like smash bros. where instead of teleporting, you have game freezes. The game runs at 100% all the time but when someones connection goes for a second they could look like they are falling off the edge or freezing but to them everything was going fine, so when the connection updates it shows them "teleporting" to where they are.
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#29 comstrikeiscool
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[QUOTE="TwilightSoilder"]So, I've been playing MKWii online for a while now and I've found some hackers that really Pi$$ me off!!! For instantance, there was this guy how was in 1st place and got nailed by a blue shell and one second later he teleports somewhere else and then he teleports like 10 feet ahead of where he orignally was and ended up winning thwe race!!! :evil: I've had this happen to me many time and it annoys the heck out of me!!! How about you guys? Did this ever happen to you?Swixer-Swaxer

unfourtunatly there will always be cheaters. Sad, acne ridden, 40 year old losers living in their mothers basements and living off Cheetoes and Coca Cola and we just have to let nintendo deal with it.

BTW there were no cheaters till USA got MK

BTW there was no lag till USA got MK

You must have not have read my post...

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#31 DopeyDavoid
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lag lag lag lag.

i swear there is ALWAYS someone on the nintendo forums that calls "hacks".

Jordan Elek explains the "hacks" perfectly.

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#32 tgh93_29
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Are you all new to online gaming? It's not a hack....it's called lag.comstrikeiscool
i was about to say it but then i decided to keep reading....
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[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]Are you all new to online gaming? It's not a hack....it called lag.air_wolf_cubed
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dido...

and it happened to me. But is OK.. as long as I can play, I just image that the only different would have beng taht I would have see the racer passing.. :P

I love this game... thus I had to stop playing bc I disconneting :(

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#34 ForsakenWicked
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I doubt that is lag
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#35 frozenthino
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I doubt that is lagForsakenWicked
read jordanelek 's post you'll understand
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#36 01_5k001
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Are you all new to online gaming? It's not a hack....it's called lag.comstrikeiscool

I agree that is what you call a lag.

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#37 WolfWatch
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I saw Jordan lag (or possibly me lag) because I saw him ram into a wall, get stuck, and then all of the sudden his is way way far away from me. Although he could be a haxor :P
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#38 JordanElek
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I saw Jordan lag (or possibly me lag) because I saw him ram into a wall, get stuck, and then all of the sudden his is way way far away from me. Although he could be a haxor :PWolfWatch

That's Dr.Haxor to you, buddy.

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#39 KungfuKitten
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Seems they implemented some ways to show another person racing on while it's lagging, so You don't notice the lag, unless it's real bad.