update: My mistake, US included. 3DS Presser

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#1 darth-pyschosis
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No link but its in the live blog on GoNintendo, Game Boy and GBA games confirmed for VC service on 3DS

Tag Mode happens at all times, Mii Editor confirmed on 3DS, you can take picture of your face and have it turned into a Mii, 3DS will come bundled with a 2GB SD card.

Augmented Reality games will also come with the 3DS software, if in sleep mode the WiFi in the 3DS will download all free applications, updates, ghost data, leaderboards, etc without you having to do a thing.

I'll keep updating as it goes

A Japanese company will provide WiFi support to 3DS systems in Japan starting in 2011, which that statement implies a 2010 Japan release

Uh-Oh Feb. 26 2011 Release for 25,000 Yen in Japan

US and Europe in March 2011, so literally a matter of weeks in between international launches. What a disapointment

Nintendo's stocks are literally (they have to be) shooting straight down at that announcement

25,000 Yen price translates to $298 USD, but that is a straight conversion and it will not (not looking forward to all the confused posters) be $300 in USA in March, but i think we're looking at $249.99 confirmed 3DS. Oh God. Suddenly Nintendo is looking really silly to me for this decision. Non-Holiday release and a high price? Ugh. Their stock is about to suffer tremendously.

Aqua Blue and Cosmo Black are colors at Japan launch. Really Febuary? Nintendo? In Japan?

VC games shown, Link's Awakening DX and Super Mario Land, in 3D presumably.

Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D also confirmed, it is a separate game from Resident Evil Revelations

And that's it folks.

Thoughts?

I for one, am solidly disapointed.

Too high of a price confirmed. Sure, the VC is a nice surprise and a second new RE is cool, but $298 in Yen to USD conversion confirms a $250 price or more. That is insane.

Based on the leaked specs, if true, I highly doubt this thing will cost more than $150 to produce a single unit.

Unless Nintendo puts 16GBs to 32GBs storage into this instead of a pathetic 1.5GBs-2GBs like rumored, that is a very overpriced concept to me.

And to all the people who said Japan would get it before North America, it does, but by a matter of weeks, so that really meant nothing in the end.

Missing the holidays is a huge mistake to me, Nintendo admits they have no way to advertise the 3D during the conference, yet they don't detail any plans to have demo kiosks in stores anytime soon.

Also, GDC in March 2011 is possibly going to have the PSP2 announced, and that could easily steal the 3DS's thunder, and it could release 4-6 months after the 3DS's March release, so they won't have much of a headstart if that happens. I really think Nintendo is dropping the ball on the 3DS

I really think the 3DS will have trouble selling well at a $249 price point beyond the initial buyers.

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and dont forget it said 3D!
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This summarizes my feelings on the presser

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lol the march release date made me very very depressed
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lol the march release date made me very very depressedxfactor19990

I get it if it has to miss the holidays in some territories, but even Japan misses the holidays?

This is a major mistake by Nintendo. Watch DS sales take a hit in October, January.

Announcing a release date this far away is surely a mistake. They should've just stayed silent.

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[QUOTE="xfactor19990"]lol the march release date made me very very depresseddarth-pyschosis

I get it if it has to miss the holidays in some territories, but even Japan misses the holidays?

This is a major mistake by Nintendo. Watch DS sales take a hit in October, January.

Announcing a release date this far away is surely a mistake. They should've just stayed silent.

i agree, i wish it was November launch in America, lol no one cares about Europe, right>????? Just kidding but still sad indeed
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The only thing shooting down because that release date is your dreams Darth lol. You were so dead set on that holiday release, even though everyone told you it wasn't going to happen. It should come as a surprise to no one. And Nintendo doesn't do direct price conversions, but it does point to a price point over 200 which I didn't expect. Sepewrath
ya if the specs are legit, 200+ is quite the piggy bank of profit for Nintendo!
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Actually talk by analysts before the event said Nintendo's stock was going to go down if the release wasn't overseas in 2010. It likely will

So the DS is essentially dead on the market for the next few months? Mistake.

Sure it will sell well, but why, if your console is lagging in sales already and is down from previous years, you announce something better will be out and give it a date 6 months in advance?

Terrible move by Nintendo

And Sepe how many times do I have to tell you, I don't care when it comes out. They can delay it until Fall 2012 for all I care, so long as it comes out and is a great product eventually I'm happy, i've always thought the most likely scenario would to not miss Black Friday and the US holidays, it made sense to me, and it was entertaining to debate it, but personally I don't care when it comes out.

The price however, with that hardware? Ugh. Like I said, $250-$300 potentially with 1.5GBs of storage? Really?

with a $249 price potentially in North America, I don't think its going to sell very well outside of its launch window. I mean, geez. The 3D is already a risk and Nintendo literally has no way to market the 3D without hands on time with the device, so I really thought a lower price would be in order.

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[QUOTE="Sepewrath"]The only thing shooting down because that release date is your dreams Darth lol. You were so dead set on that holiday release, even though everyone told you it wasn't going to happen. It should come as a surprise to no one. And Nintendo doesn't do direct price conversions, but it does point to a price point over 200 which I didn't expect. xfactor19990
ya if the specs are legit, 200+ is quite the piggy bank of profit for Nintendo!

Yea those specs don't scream cutting edge to me. This better get 16GBs of storage or at least 8GBs.

I'm honestly shocked its going to go over $200.

I'm no expert but we aren't getting multi-touch, we're getting one 3D screen, and a pathetic amount of storage? Ugh

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#12 xfactor19990
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ya not to start a flame war but look at the new iPods they pack a 1Ghz processor and nice GPU, and 8+GB of memory+retina display, for what 200 something? That means technically this is quite a cheap machine to make........and if it costs $250-300 Nintendo is literally making a killing!
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Wow... $250+... doesn't seem worth it to me.

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Wow... $250+... doesn't seem worth it to me.

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Yea. I'm feeling this. I dunno about it now

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#15 xfactor19990
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But then again someone did point out conversions are not accurate
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I don't think you understand the market.

If they were to release the system this holiday season, they have to compete with Kinect and Move. There will be a lot of advertising and hype behind them (well at least Kinect), and it will make the 3DS less noticeable in the market.

Also, people will pay crazy amounts of money for the next cool gadget. Look at the iPhone (or the iPad) as an example: It's overpriced and thespecs are outdated, but it has enormous hype behind it because it's the trendy thing to have.

That's all Nintendo really needs for the 3DS to succeed. They need hype, and Q1/Q2 is the best time to do it because there's literally nothing else going on at that time. That's what Apple did;all 4 versions of the iPhone (as well as the iPad) released after the holiday.

I think they're going to do just fine.

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But then again someone did point out conversions are not accurate xfactor19990

Um, yea that was me and everyone else.

Thats why I'm saying its going to be $250, since the DS Lite was $200 in JP but came out as $130 here

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[QUOTE="xfactor19990"]But then again someone did point out conversions are not accurate darth-pyschosis

Um, yea that was me and everyone else.

Thats why I'm saying its going to be $250, since the DS Lite was $200 in JP but came out as $130 here

Eh whatever lol on cell trying to keep up
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some more 3DS stuff:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2010/3ds/index.html

click on the white box(es) under the 3ds logo to take a glimpse at the new OS and maybe the packed in cradle.

and it also shows some features such as multitasking(view web browser while playing) and Tag Mode, and what seems like a game that can be accessed by taking a picture of a nintendo picture.. ugh thing.

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lol the march release date made me very very depressedxfactor19990

I basically saw that coming all along, but everyone else was dead-set on it secretly being released here in November with little advance notice. If Nintendo really had that in mind I'm sure they would have said the 3DS would be released by the end of the year, not given the timeline of the end of Quarter 1 in 2011 like they did. Like everyone else, I'd obviously like it to come out sooner, but I can wait, there's plenty of good games coming out this holiday season to keep me (and every other gamer, for that matter) occupied. I've heard several people say that this will somehow be horrible for Nintendo to not release the 3DS during the holiday-shopping season, but I don't really agree with that either, the hype behind this console is insane, I'm sure they could release it any day of the year and do just fine, sales-wise. Likewise, does anyone remember when the Nintendo Wii was initially released? The demand for it was so high that they couldn't make them fast enough, the consoles were literally flying off store shelves for a good year-plus after the Wii's release date. So given the Wii's incredible success both during the holiday-shopping season and the rest of the year, why should it matter when the 3DS even comes out? I'm sure the demand will far exceed the number of available units for at least a year after its release, which means it should still be red-hot heading into the 2011 holiday-shopping season, helping Nintendo rake in the cash. Plus casual gamers, whom are likely the largest demographic Nintendo will get behind the 3DS, are notoriously slow to pick up next-generation gaming consoles, so I'm sure they'll keep the sales of the 3DS strong for years to come. As a side note, though, I personally am disappointed the 3DS price is set so high (at least according to the converted-currency price, I'm sure it will be lower in reality), nearly $300 seems like an awful lot for a handheld of any sort, especially when Nintendo has built a reputation of making their consoles relatively affordable in the past. I can still rationalize my purchase of a 3DS, since most iPod Touch models cost more than that and are capable of far less, gaming wise, but here's hoping it will cost under $250 in the U.S. when the actual pricing is announced.

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I don't think you understand the market.

If they were to release the system this holiday season, they have to compete with Kinect and Move. There will be a lot of advertising and hype behind them (well at least Kinect), and it will make the 3DS less noticeable in the market.

Also, people will pay crazy amounts of money for the next cool gadget. Look at the iPhone (or the iPad) as an example: It's overpriced and thespecs are outdated, but it has enormous hype behind it because it's the trendy thing to have.

That's all Nintendo really needs for the 3DS to succeed. They need hype, and Q1/Q2 is the best time to do it because there's literally nothing else going on at that time. That's what Apple did;all 4 versions of the iPhone (as well as the iPad) released after the holiday.

I think they're going to do just fine.

bob_newman

Agreed, I'm glad someone else seems to understand the power of hype Nintendo has going for it with the 3DS. While a holiday-season release would have been convenient and ideal for most of us gamers, the reality is that Nintendo doesn't need to release the 3DS then for it to be successful.

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Called it pretty well, but I was a bit thrown off by the February release date in Japan. Thought it would be around December, but I guess it just wasn't ready yet.

Re; price, it had to be. Nintendo is making a huge profit off of each DS sold and wants to retain those large profit margins for each 3DS unit sold. This is what happens when the competition fails to provide an adequate alternative. Nintendo has no incentive to lower prices, and they'll keep the DSi on the market post-release to cover the lower price points ($129-$169). Until the PSP2 shows up, it's the right thing to do no matter how much it slows down 3DS adoption.

Admittedly it's funny though that it'll almost certainly be more expensive than the iPod Touch (which starts at $229).

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Called it pretty well, but I was a bit thrown off by the February release date in Japan. Thought it would be around December, but I guess it just wasn't ready yet.

Re; price, it had to be. Nintendo is making a huge profit off of each DS sold and wants to retain those large profit margins for each 3DS unit sold. This is what happens when the competition fails to provide an adequate alternative. Nintendo has no incentive to lower prices, and they'll keep the DSi on the market post-release to cover the lower price points ($129-$169). Until the PSP2 shows up, it's the right thing to do no matter how much it slows down 3DS adoption.

Admittedly it's funny though that it'll almost certainly be more expensive than the iPod Touch (which starts at $229).

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well the Ipod Touch is mainly an Mp3/Mp4 device, sure it has games but that isnt its main selling point.
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[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

Called it pretty well, but I was a bit thrown off by the February release date in Japan. Thought it would be around December, but I guess it just wasn't ready yet.

Re; price, it had to be. Nintendo is making a huge profit off of each DS sold and wants to retain those large profit margins for each 3DS unit sold. This is what happens when the competition fails to provide an adequate alternative. Nintendo has no incentive to lower prices, and they'll keep the DSi on the market post-release to cover the lower price points ($129-$169). Until the PSP2 shows up, it's the right thing to do no matter how much it slows down 3DS adoption.

Admittedly it's funny though that it'll almost certainly be more expensive than the iPod Touch (which starts at $229).

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well the Ipod Touch is mainly an Mp3/Mp4 device, sure it has games but that isnt its main selling point.

Of course, that is a good point. What I'm wondering though, is, the DS was such a popular device for "casual" gamers. I think that's really what helped propel it to its large install base and sales. Obviously the DS has an amazing list of incredible hardcore games, but in many ways it succeeded at reaching the Wii casual crowd too.

Now the 3DS has a ton of features that are really exciting for the hardcore crowd. But by pricing the 3DS above the iPod Touch, isn't Nintendo sort-of... relinquishing the casual audience over to Apple? Because a Touch offers casuals a lot of flexibility for non-gaming activities, while also giving them some silly games to play in the downtime. Of course those games aren't near the quality that the 3DS will offer, but it's the type of stuff casuals would be into.

It will be fascinating to compare the DS-3DS sales. There's a ton of hype surrounding the 3DS, but it's really a gamer's machine. Casuals may be lost here unless the 3D effect really grabs them in. And of course it's a bit on the expensive to give to kids. It's almost as if Nintendo has been influenced by the PSP for some reason.

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[QUOTE="Arclight_Blue"][QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

Called it pretty well, but I was a bit thrown off by the February release date in Japan. Thought it would be around December, but I guess it just wasn't ready yet.

Re; price, it had to be. Nintendo is making a huge profit off of each DS sold and wants to retain those large profit margins for each 3DS unit sold. This is what happens when the competition fails to provide an adequate alternative. Nintendo has no incentive to lower prices, and they'll keep the DSi on the market post-release to cover the lower price points ($129-$169). Until the PSP2 shows up, it's the right thing to do no matter how much it slows down 3DS adoption.

Admittedly it's funny though that it'll almost certainly be more expensive than the iPod Touch (which starts at $229).

SakusEnvoy

well the Ipod Touch is mainly an Mp3/Mp4 device, sure it has games but that isnt its main selling point.

Of course, that is a good point. What I'm wondering though, is, the DS was such a popular device for "casual" gamers. I think that's really what helped propel it to its large install base and sales. Obviously the DS has an amazing list of incredible hardcore games, but in many ways it succeeded at reaching the Wii casual crowd too.

Now the 3DS has a ton of features that are really exciting for the hardcore crowd. But by pricing the 3DS above the iPod Touch, isn't Nintendo sort-of... relinquishing the casual audience over to Apple? Because a Touch offers casuals a lot of flexibility for non-gaming activities, while also giving them some silly games to play in the downtime. Of course those games aren't near the quality that the 3DS will offer, but it's the type of stuff casuals would be into.

It will be fascinating to compare the DS-3DS sales. There's a ton of hype surrounding the 3DS, but it's really a gamer's machine. Casuals may be lost here unless the 3D effect really grabs them in. And of course it's a bit on the expensive to give to kids. It's almost as if Nintendo has been influenced by the PSP for some reason.

Well the 3DS comes with a 2GB SD card and a charging cradle, perhaps having a plane old charging cable and no SD card in the package could knock down the price a little bit?

I don't see why Nintendo would bother to include a friggin' 2GB SD card, they are putting that in the package, and yet they give it 1.5GBs of internal memory instead of opting to forget the 2GB SD card and put 4GBs of internal memory inside

I'm thinking $200 is still possible, however not likely. $229 is what i'd like to see

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for those who know, what is the price of Wii(currently) in Japan? is it the same as the US/EU? the difference between the Wii-3DS price could be a good basis for the final price of this sexy but pricy thing.

edit: they had a price cut as well, looks like this one is in the 230-250 bracket (I hope)

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I just don't get it

They increase the cost of the unit by including a separate 2GB SD card, opting to not increase cost of the unit by shipping it with 2GBs more of internal memory?

I mean, 1.5GBs? (not confirmed, but probable)

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I would pay up to 250 pounds for this. After what i'v seen the price means nothing.

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for those who know, what is the price of Wii(currently) in Japan? is it the same as the US/EU? the difference between the Wii-3DS price could be a good basis for the final price of this sexy but pricy thing.

edit: they had a price cut as well, looks like this one is in the 230-250 bracket (I hope)

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I'm not sure about the Wii, but the DSi XL was 20,000 yen at debut which is roughly ~$240 today. Then they dropped it to 18,000 (~$216). In America the XL debuted at $190 and dropped just recently to $170, so the price drops and pricing are pretty consistent although the cut arrived much later over here. Nintendo might have hesistated a bit due to the yen's strength and weak dollar. Roughly $50 less in America in either case...

So the 7,000 yen increase from the XL's price, which amounts to about ~$84, should put the 3DS squarely at $250 if recent and previous pricing decisions are an indication.

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[QUOTE="Arclight_Blue"]

for those who know, what is the price of Wii(currently) in Japan? is it the same as the US/EU? the difference between the Wii-3DS price could be a good basis for the final price of this sexy but pricy thing.

edit: they had a price cut as well, looks like this one is in the 230-250 bracket (I hope)

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I'm not sure about the Wii, but the DSi XL was 20,000 yen at debut which is roughly ~$240 today. Then they dropped it to 18,000 (~$216). In America the XL debuted at $190 and dropped just recently to $170, so the price drops and pricing are pretty consistent although the cut arrived much later over here. Nintendo might have hesistated a bit due to the yen's strength and weak dollar. Roughly $50 less in America in either case...

So the 7,000 yen increase from the XL's price, which amounts to about ~$84, should put the 3DS squarely at $250 if recent and previous pricing decisions are an indication.

I say take out the backlit buttons, take out the 2GB SD card packaged in, and forget the charging cradle and lets knock whatever we can off that price

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#32 bob_newman
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I just don't get it

They increase the cost of the unit by including a separate 2GB SD card, opting to not increase cost of the unit by shipping it with 2GBs more of internal memory?

I mean, 1.5GBs? (not confirmed, but probable)

darth-pyschosis
Stop basing this on what it "should" be worth. Most people don't care, Nintendo doesn't care, and it'll still sell like crazy because it will be the "cool" gadget to own next year. I mean if you can't afford it then wait until you can. This is just how the market works and your complaints won't change that.
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Here's a second thought on the price that also came to my mind. Looking at the impressive software lineup [link], I couldn't help but think some of these games look better than what we get on the Wii. Is there a chance the 3DS could become Nintendo's lead system for software development from now on? Up until now, the handheld version of Mario, Zelda, etc. games seemed secondary in scope and quality to a Twilight Princess or Galaxy. They were fun games, but they were not at the level of the GC/Wii versions.

But with the handheld's power, 3D capability, and the fact that Nintendo really wants to sell these to bring up sliding profits, perhaps the 3DS will become Nintendo's main system for both home and handheld-type games.

It'd also explain the Wii's thin-looking 2011 lineup. If you think about the 3DS as being more than just a DS successor, but also a portable home console, the $250 Wii-like price really makes a lot of sense.

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nice, i'll finally be able to properly play link's awakening, which i loved (even though i could never, like i said, properly play it... or own it)
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Good, they better put Minish cap on the VC service. :x I miss that game... Hey can it still play music??? :?
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[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

[QUOTE="Arclight_Blue"]

for those who know, what is the price of Wii(currently) in Japan? is it the same as the US/EU? the difference between the Wii-3DS price could be a good basis for the final price of this sexy but pricy thing.

edit: they had a price cut as well, looks like this one is in the 230-250 bracket (I hope)

darth-pyschosis

I'm not sure about the Wii, but the DSi XL was 20,000 yen at debut which is roughly ~$240 today. Then they dropped it to 18,000 (~$216). In America the XL debuted at $190 and dropped just recently to $170, so the price drops and pricing are pretty consistent although the cut arrived much later over here. Nintendo might have hesistated a bit due to the yen's strength and weak dollar. Roughly $50 less in America in either case...

So the 7,000 yen increase from the XL's price, which amounts to about ~$84, should put the 3DS squarely at $250 if recent and previous pricing decisions are an indication.

I say take out the backlit buttons, take out the 2GB SD card packaged in, and forget the charging cradle and lets knock whatever we can off that price

and reduce the price in... 5 yen. yeah, that's going to revolutionize the world. "wanna charge your videogame? then BUY THE CHARGER SEPARATELY". will work wonders.
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#37 Cruse34
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@darth :D

Anyway I'm not surprised by the date or price. But the games that are coming make the 3DS worth $250 or whatever it costs in NA. the only thing that disappoints me are no launch games announced

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I think you were expecting a little too much, Darth. You got your hopes up and were let down and now you're bitter. I'm fine with the launch date and the price given all the pack-ins you get.

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Awesome, this will probably be what i'll used the most on the 3DS, I want Link's Awakening, Oracle of Ages/Seasons, and Minish Cap, oh and hopefully the first two Golden Sun games will be added too.
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I think you were expecting a little too much, Darth. You got your hopes up and were let down and now you're bitter. I'm fine with the launch date and the price given all the pack-ins you get.

BreakTheseLinks

I don't care when it comes out, it will be the same awesomeness whenever it releases, so I'm not bitter, I just thought it would be better to release it during a busier shopping time.

And Japan gets it a mere 1-2 weeks before USA and Europe? Why? None of this makes sense to me, even Japan is getting it late. Japan basically gets it the same month as North America, which i predicted and anyone could have predicted, coz it makes sense (Japan gets it like 3 days before March)

The price however, i'm hoping it comes down closer to $200 for Nintendo's sake

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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

I just don't get it

They increase the cost of the unit by including a separate 2GB SD card, opting to not increase cost of the unit by shipping it with 2GBs more of internal memory?

I mean, 1.5GBs? (not confirmed, but probable)

bob_newman

Stop basing this on what it "should" be worth. Most people don't care, Nintendo doesn't care, and it'll still sell like crazy because it will be the "cool" gadget to own next year. I mean if you can't afford it then wait until you can. This is just how the market works and your complaints won't change that.

With all the Android Tablets,BlackBerry PlayBook, Windows Phone 7 with full Xbox Live Integration, new iPads surely to ship around the 3DS's release in March or April, a PSP2 next year potentially, as well as the fact that the iPhone 5G will be release 3 months after the 3DS, the 3DS will be the "Cool" gadget for a very short time.

There is something to be said about the iPad selling 3 million units in a matter of months, and the iPhone's selling 8 million units in each quarter. Despite what people may say this generation is going to be more complex and difficult for nintendo, and not because of video game companies. I think the casual gamer is going to be most effected this gen for Nintendo, and its not that Nintendo has to worry about people paying for gaming from these other devices but that they can only spend $250+ on so many devices in a year.

If the 3DS has 1.5GBs of storage, and if we can't run software off the SD card (this isn't confirmed) then we're screwed. We'll be cleaning out the fridge for another 5 years. The cap on WiiWare is about 40MB now with 512MB storage, its likely we'd get at least a bit over 100MB limit if the 3DS is too handicapped by its internal storage

Then again, if the 3DS can run software off the SD card then we're good.

Additionally, I doubt we'll get to install 3DS games onto the unit like previously rumored.

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And so their stock is taking a hit now

http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=137648

Most people thought it would release in the holidays for at least one territory. The price seems to be worrying people as well.

I bet this is why Nintendo announced so many other things, like 3DS Virtual Console, to try to help pad against the inevitable lost money from investor backlash due to the late release.

I think everyone is baffled Japan only gets it 1-2 weeks before every other region but in 2011, not 2010.

This is some way to end a fiscal year. I wonder if they think Wii Remote Plus is suppose to help with this?

Of course it will go up in March when the unit releases. All in all not much for Nintendo to be concerned about.

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I'm extremely pumped for it, but the most I'll pay is £200 with a game thrown in. Originallly I planned on getting 3 launch games with it, but thats not an option anymore.

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I've had time to think about this now.

Overall I'm really excited for the 3Ds. The software and feature all seem really exciting. I'm a bit sad that I'll have to wait for March for it, and I agree with Darth that Nintendo probably made a mistake announcing it so soon killing DS sales in the meantime.

As for the price, to be honest I'm not THAT concerned, a higher launch price just means I'll buy less launch games at launch. We don't have prices confirmed for outside of Japan and it is useless to speculate based on the Japanese price as it is likely the other regions will get a very different package at launch. Don't forget the Wii in Japan didn't come with Wii Sports for example! I recon if it is close to $300 outside of Japan it will be with a pack in game as well as the AR stuff Japan are getting. I've said it before, but I am sure this is going to come bundled with Pilot Wings.

The VC sounds great, very excited for that. The updates and tag mode stuff are cool too. Mii's rock - happy with that. I'd like to see some cross-platform stuff between Wii and the 3DS as icing on the cake.

Still definately a day 1 purchase for me, with the number of games I buy with it depending on the price and how deep my pockets are at the time.

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I've had time to think about this now.

Overall I'm really excited for the 3Ds. The software and feature all seem really exciting. I'm a bit sad that I'll have to wait for March for it, and I agree with Darth that Nintendo probably made a mistake announcing it so soon killing DS sales in the meantime.

As for the price, to be honest I'm not THAT concerned, a higher launch price just means I'll buy less launch games at launch. We don't have prices confirmed for outside of Japan and it is useless to speculate based on the Japanese price as it is likely the other regions will get a very different package at launch. Don't forget the Wii in Japan didn't come with Wii Sports for example! I recon if it is close to $300 outside of Japan it will be with a pack in game as well as the AR stuff Japan are getting. I've said it before, but I am sure this is going to come bundled with Pilot Wings.

The VC sounds great, very excited for that. The updates and tag mode stuff are cool too. Mii's rock - happy with that. I'd like to see some cross-platform stuff between Wii and the 3DS as icing on the cake.

Still definately a day 1 purchase for me, with the number of games I buy with it depending on the price and how deep my pockets are at the time.

misiufraggle

Now that I think of it, reports said March for Europe and NA, but I don't believe Nintendo actually stated that at the event, I think the press is assuming since Nintendo is estimating 3-4 million 3DS units sold before March 31st.

So to be fair, it could still come out in Late January in EU or NA or in early, mid, late Feb too.

I also wish and hope PilotWings would be a pack in instead of AR games.

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No link but its in the live blog on GoNintendo, Game Boy and GBA games confirmed for VC service on 3DS

Tag Mode happens at all times, Mii Editor confirmed on 3DS, you can take picture of your face and have it turned into a Mii, 3DS will come bundled with a 2GB SD card.

Augmented Reality games will also come with the 3DS software, if in sleep mode the WiFi in the 3DS will download all free applications, updates, ghost data, leaderboards, etc without you having to do a thing.

I'll keep updating as it goes

A Japanese company will provide WiFi support to 3DS systems in Japan starting in 2011, which that statement implies a 2010 Japan release

Uh-Oh Feb. 26 2011 Release for 25,000 Yen in Japan

US and Europe in March 2011, so literally a matter of weeks in between international launches. What a disapointment

Nintendo's stocks are literally (they have to be) shooting straight down at that announcement

25,000 Yen price translates to $298 USD, but that is a straight conversion and it will not (not looking forward to all the confused posters) be $300 in USA in March, but i think we're looking at $249.99 confirmed 3DS. Oh God. Suddenly Nintendo is looking really silly to me for this decision. Non-Holiday release and a high price? Ugh. Their stock is about to suffer tremendously.

Aqua Blue and Cosmo Black are colors at Japan launch. Really Febuary? Nintendo? In Japan?

VC games shown, Link's Awakening DX and Super Mario Land, in 3D presumably.

Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D also confirmed, it is a separate game from Resident Evil Revelations

And that's it folks.

Thoughts?

I for one, am solidly disapointed.

you are solidly disappointed but yet a ps3 cost 300 in the us and requires a specail tv for its 3d functuions to work and the psp go cost the same as did wii on day one , so how can you possibly be disappointed \and w vc added- omg i just cant believe people like you exist in this world , heck im happy its only 249,99 , -300 , cause you know how much a ps3 costed me -300 , i have 0 problems paying any were from 100-300 , , but ive paid 600 for a ps3 , day one , so ya , , wont do that ever again trust me on that one , i wonder how much psp 2 will be hahhaah knowing sony -----wait judging by psp gos price -350 /500 and bam

Too high of a price confirmed. Sure, the VC is a nice surprise and a second new RE is cool, but $298 in Yen to USD conversion confirms a $250 price or more. That is insane.

Based on the leaked specs, if true, I highly doubt this thing will cost more than $150 to produce a single unit.

Unless Nintendo puts 16GBs to 32GBs storage into this instead of a pathetic 1.5GBs-2GBs like rumored, that is a very overpriced concept to me.

And to all the people who said Japan would get it before North America, it does, but by a matter of weeks, so that really meant nothing in the end.

Missing the holidays is a huge mistake to me, Nintendo admits they have no way to advertise the 3D during the conference, yet they don't detail any plans to have demo kiosks in stores anytime soon.

Also, GDC in March 2011 is possibly going to have the PSP2 announced, and that could easily steal the 3DS's thunder, and it could release 4-6 months after the 3DS's March release, so they won't have much of a headstart if that happens. I really think Nintendo is dropping the ball on the 3DS

I really think the 3DS will have trouble selling well at a $249 price point beyond the initial buyers.

darth-pyschosis

\wii had no problems selling 80 million at 249,99 for what 3 -4 years

and psp launched march 2005 few months after ds did it hurt nintendo then

no

so i dont think psp2 will be a problem you also got to remember

nintendo is the cheapest at all times

-so if sony released a psp 2 , you can expect it to be 100 more then 3ds in usa

and if they did release psp 2 hmm will we have to deal with digital downloads or flemsy umds again , , um um um

no thanks i dont like digital downloads unless its classic games

and i do not appreciate the fact that umds tend to crack break and bend within ten minutes

so with that said

,, , there more

\the battery life of 3ds i s confirmed to be in line with dsi on highest setting

the battery life of a psp is already considerablly low , with the stock battery in bed-using a psp 1000 in a 3000 i discovered it lasts as long as the original ds that said

the psp 2 battery will most likely be the same way-suppose sony upgrades graphics they better!

and if they dont

guess what

nintendo wins by default

again theres the thing

-backwards capability , choice , , guranteed 3rd party support , ,

those things will play a good role in helping nintendo

cause lets face it , ds is killing sony already

-sony couldnt sell a psp at 249.99 but i bet nintendo could sell 3ds at wiis price!

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awesome and not awesome i want the 3DS but its gonna be expensive im gonna have to save up....

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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

No link but its in the live blog on GoNintendo, Game Boy and GBA games confirmed for VC service on 3DS

Tag Mode happens at all times, Mii Editor confirmed on 3DS, you can take picture of your face and have it turned into a Mii, 3DS will come bundled with a 2GB SD card.

Augmented Reality games will also come with the 3DS software, if in sleep mode the WiFi in the 3DS will download all free applications, updates, ghost data, leaderboards, etc without you having to do a thing.

I'll keep updating as it goes

A Japanese company will provide WiFi support to 3DS systems in Japan starting in 2011, which that statement implies a 2010 Japan release

Uh-Oh Feb. 26 2011 Release for 25,000 Yen in Japan

US and Europe in March 2011, so literally a matter of weeks in between international launches. What a disapointment

Nintendo's stocks are literally (they have to be) shooting straight down at that announcement

25,000 Yen price translates to $298 USD, but that is a straight conversion and it will not (not looking forward to all the confused posters) be $300 in USA in March, but i think we're looking at $249.99 confirmed 3DS. Oh God. Suddenly Nintendo is looking really silly to me for this decision. Non-Holiday release and a high price? Ugh. Their stock is about to suffer tremendously.

Aqua Blue and Cosmo Black are colors at Japan launch. Really Febuary? Nintendo? In Japan?

VC games shown, Link's Awakening DX and Super Mario Land, in 3D presumably.

Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D also confirmed, it is a separate game from Resident Evil Revelations

And that's it folks.

Thoughts?

I for one, am solidly disapointed.

you are solidly disappointed but yet a ps3 cost 300 in the us and requires a specail tv for its 3d functuions to work and the psp go cost the same as did wii on day one , so how can you possibly be disappointed \and w vc added- omg i just cant believe people like you exist in this world , heck im happy its only 249,99 , -300 , cause you know how much a ps3 costed me -300 , i have 0 problems paying any were from 100-300 , , but ive paid 600 for a ps3 , day one , so ya , , wont do that ever again trust me on that one , i wonder how much psp 2 will be hahhaah knowing sony -----wait judging by psp gos price -350 /500 and bam

Too high of a price confirmed. Sure, the VC is a nice surprise and a second new RE is cool, but $298 in Yen to USD conversion confirms a $250 price or more. That is insane.

Based on the leaked specs, if true, I highly doubt this thing will cost more than $150 to produce a single unit.

Unless Nintendo puts 16GBs to 32GBs storage into this instead of a pathetic 1.5GBs-2GBs like rumored, that is a very overpriced concept to me.

And to all the people who said Japan would get it before North America, it does, but by a matter of weeks, so that really meant nothing in the end.

Missing the holidays is a huge mistake to me, Nintendo admits they have no way to advertise the 3D during the conference, yet they don't detail any plans to have demo kiosks in stores anytime soon.

Also, GDC in March 2011 is possibly going to have the PSP2 announced, and that could easily steal the 3DS's thunder, and it could release 4-6 months after the 3DS's March release, so they won't have much of a headstart if that happens. I really think Nintendo is dropping the ball on the 3DS

I really think the 3DS will have trouble selling well at a $249 price point beyond the initial buyers.

mariokart64fan

\wii had no problems selling 80 million at 249,99 for what 3 -4 years

and psp launched march 2005 few months after ds did it hurt nintendo then

no

so i dont think psp2 will be a problem you also got to remember

nintendo is the cheapest at all times

-so if sony released a psp 2 , you can expect it to be 100 more then 3ds in usa

and if they did release psp 2 hmm will we have to deal with digital downloads or flemsy umds again , , um um um

no thanks i dont like digital downloads unless its classic games

and i do not appreciate the fact that umds tend to crack break and bend within ten minutes

so with that said

,, , there more

\the battery life of 3ds i s confirmed to be in line with dsi on highest setting

the battery life of a psp is already considerablly low , with the stock battery in bed-using a psp 1000 in a 3000 i discovered it lasts as long as the original ds that said

the psp 2 battery will most likely be the same way-suppose sony upgrades graphics they better!

and if they dont

guess what

nintendo wins by default

again theres the thing

-backwards capability , choice , , guranteed 3rd party support , ,

those things will play a good role in helping nintendo

cause lets face it , ds is killing sony already

-sony couldnt sell a psp at 249.99 but i bet nintendo could sell 3ds at wiis price!

Umm, that is a very unorganized post but let me make this clear

The 3DS has won nothing yet

Nintendo has shown its cards, its time for their competitors to make their decisions now, just because all these things you said happened once doesn't mean they will happen again.

And to be honest yes the PSP releasing so soon after the DS did hurt it, they were virtually neck and neck until the DS Lite came out, then, well as they say, the rest is history