Wait, why didn't nintendo release SMG2 in the holiday season?

It just doesn't make sense to me. Mario games already sell like crazy, especially during the holidays, and with reviews like these, SMG2 would've done tremendously well in the holiday seasons. It just doesn't make sense. However there was one reason that came to my mind about why nintendo would didn't make SMG2 their holiday title. So far it seems that Zelda is going to be the holiday title, does that mean nintendo is more confident in Zelda than they are in SMG2. If so Nintendo must have some big expectations from the next Zelda game. But this is just wild speculation.

It's because Wii Party will be the stronger title

It's because Wii Party will be the stronger title

Jaysonguy

I don't think Nintendo is going to be so confident in that game.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

It's because Wii Party will be the stronger title

G-dorf11

I don't think Nintendo is going to be so confident in that game.

No, they weren't confident in Mario Party because Mario can't moves games like he did for them in previous generations

The Wii branded titles are gold on the Wii, even the title that Nintendo said they weren't happy with sold 2.8 million. The Wii titles sell even when they mess them up.

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

It's because Wii Party will be the stronger title

Jaysonguy

I don't think Nintendo is going to be so confident in that game.

No, they weren't confident in Mario Party because Mario can't moves games like he did for them in previous generations

The Wii branded titles are gold on the Wii, even the title that Nintendo said they weren't happy with sold 2.8 million. The Wii titles sell even when they mess them up.

Well it is true that Wii branded games sell very well, most of them are often bundled with some sort of accessory. The wii branded games that are not bundled with an accessory don't do as well. Wii music for example couldn't even match the sales of wii fit, wii sports resort and wii play. Basically I think casual gamers like the idea that a game is bundled with an accessory.

Because they have Metroid Other M later this year, They also have Xenoblade and Last Story. They also might have Legend of Zelda (Working Title) for the end of the year.

Partially because of what Jason said, Wii Party is gonna be the christmas present of 2010, Mario sells whenever

Because that's when Zelda and Wii Relax will come out.

I think it's partly because Mario will always sell and they needed it out of the way for Zelda, but mainly I think it is Nintendo experimenting with releasing a traditonal AAAE in this release window. It's becoming pretty popular now and Nintendo will want a piece of those NPD numbers (even though they get them anyway lol).

To make room for the other princess.

First off, it's not like the Wii couldn't use a game like SMG2 at this very moment, since it's not exactly flooded with a ton of huge games at this period. The last thing Nintendo needs to see with the Wii is the first half of last year repeat itself, and along with the new bundles and black Wii, SMG2 is bound to be the game that will allow the system to keep some buzz for the next few months.

As far as the holiday goes, you have to suspect that if Zelda and Wii Party come out doing the last quarter of the year, that will be plenty to drive the Wii during that time. Even if that's not the case, we don't know what other key titles Nintendo might have in store for the rest of the year and when they'll come out. I think once E3 is said and done, we'll have an idea where Nintendo is going, but for the time being, let's just appreciate the fact that we DIDN'T have to wait at least 5 more months for Galaxy 2!

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

It's because Wii Party will be the stronger title

I don't think Nintendo is going to be so confident in that game.

No, they weren't confident in Mario Party because Mario can't moves games like he did for them in previous generations

The Wii branded titles are gold on the Wii, even the title that Nintendo said they weren't happy with sold 2.8 million. The Wii titles sell even when they mess them up.

Because other than Monter Hunter Tri there's been nothing decent released for the Wii recently? There will be other good games released in the fall, no reason not to throw us a bone now.DJ_Lae

hopefully it's because of Zeldafunsohng

[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Because other than Monter Hunter Tri there's been nothing decent released for the Wii recently? There will be other good games released in the fall, no reason not to throw us a bone now.soulreaper-4

Sure, there have been games like MH3, TvC, and Red Steel 2 that have recently been released on the Wii, but none of those games are at the level of driving the system's sales. Those games are having tough enough of a time keeping themselves relevant among pre-existing Wii owners, to be frank. Without Galaxy 2, we're looking at a situation where the only thing that would even make people look at the Wii is the Wii itself, much like how it was last year. That's still enough to keep things going, but a legit must-have game definitely helps the cause, and the Wii will have that game VERY soon.

The Wii still has plenty of life left within it, and there isn't much evidence out there to suggest that Nintendo's ready to move forward or in a different direction. Sales are still strong, quality titles are still in development, and there's still plenty of potential left within the system and its tools. As long as Nintendo itself is pushing the system, there's not much more it needs to keep going, and I don't think Nintendo will move on until it can't get much more out of it. If Galaxy 2's any indication, the Big N might just be getting warmed up! :P

Why would you care? Don't think about this a game as a business-man, but as a... you know, a gamer. Would it be better if it got delayed like Other M? Would you be more pleased if could play this game starting December?

[QUOTE="funsohng"]hopefully it's because of Zeldasoulreaper-4

[QUOTE="soulreaper-4"][QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Because other than Monter Hunter Tri there's been nothing decent released for the Wii recently? There will be other good games released in the fall, no reason not to throw us a bone now.Madmangamer364

Sure, there have been games like MH3, TvC, and Red Steel 2 that have recently been released on the Wii, but none of those games are at the level of driving the system's sales. Those games are having tough enough of a time keeping themselves relevant among pre-existing Wii owners, to be frank. Without Galaxy 2, we're looking at a situation where the only thing that would even make people look at the Wii is the Wii itself, much like how it was last year. That's still enough to keep things going, but a legit must-have game definitely helps the cause, and the Wii will have that game VERY soon.

The Wii still has plenty of life left within it, and there isn't much evidence out there to suggest that Nintendo's ready to move forward or in a different direction. Sales are still strong, quality titles are still in development, and there's still plenty of potential left within the system and its tools. As long as Nintendo itself is pushing the system, there's not much more it needs to keep going, and I don't think Nintendo will move on until it can't get much more out of it. If Galaxy 2's any indication, the Big N might just be getting warmed up! :P

I really don't trust Nintendo as before and i really don't believe the Wii will last a lot more time like 2 years. I don't want to cause a flame war and i am not a troll but the truth is the truth the competition have way better games than the non Nintendo tittles available for Wii, they have more powerful consoles wtih way better graphics capabilities and HD compatabilities plus way better online and after sony realises their Wii Remote copy they will have a way superior Wii with more variety.

I bought my Wii on lunch but the truth is i had to buy a PS3 because the only games that interest me for the Wii are the ones made from Nintendo. If i were with the Wii only i will be missing a lot of awsome games like, uncharted 2, Metal Gear Solid 2, Super Street Fighter IV, Resident Evil 5, Marvel vs Capcom 3, Soul Calibur IV and much more. This is only a small example of why i hope the Wii succesor will be on par with the competition.soulreaper-4

It's not a matter of trust, but a matter of examing the situation at hand logically. Nintendo was able to sustain BOTH the N64 and GameCube for five years, and those two systems were in a far worse position in terms of market positioning, support, and future outlook than the Wii is now. What sense would it make for Nintendo to ax the Wii at this point? If the Wii was struggling to sale, I could see the reasoning behind your point, but Nintendo's having trouble keeping supplies in stock for people to buy these days, not having trouble actually selling console units on shelves. Factor in the continued success of the system, items like MotionPlus and the Vitality Sensor still fresh or yet to be properly introduced from a software side of things respectively, and the software side of things finally starting to gain a sense of variety, and everything suggests that the Wii will be around for 2 years, if not longer!

I respect your opinions and all, but none of that's really relevant to the point of the Wii being able to sustain itself. It's still selling systems at a faster rate than anything else on the market not named the DS, and it still has potential to be more than what it is. That in itself is enough to keep it going. The 'advantages' the HD systems have had to this point haven't done anything to steal the Wii's thunder, and it's way to early to say what their motion-controlled add-ons will be able to impact, especially without Nintendo's games. The Wii has been successful only because it's the Wii, and as of now, ONLY the Wii is the Wii (I hope that makes sense).

It might have something to do with the usual summer drought.

But then again, a lot of high profile games have recently come out, so I really don't know.

1 word..Zelda

Because of Zelda, and more time to play during summer :p (for me anyway)

Why would you care? Don't think about this a game as a business-man, but as a... you know, a gamer. Would it be better if it got delayed like Other M? Would you be more pleased if could play this game starting December?

Axelander999

I'm very happy that we're getting SMG2 right now and very happy as a gamer. I'm just very curious about Nintendo's business strategies for this year, it has been very different.

I'll be buying Wii party no matter how **** it seems simply because I want another mario party like game :@, I however doubt it will do well enough to gurantee its own release slot, look at Wii Music..... I do however think Zelda will Launch and be nintendo's big Q4 game. On a side note SMG2 couldn't have come earlier the last decent Wii game was NSMB Wii and that was 7 months ago.

I'll be buying Wii party no matter how **** it seems simply because I want another mario party like game :@, I however doubt it will do well enough to gurantee its own release slot, look at Wii Music..... I do however think Zelda will Launch and be nintendo's big Q4 game. On a side note SMG2 couldn't have come earlier the last decent Wii game was NSMB Wii and that was 7 months ago.

dazzzilla

You my friend, have missed many great games.

[QUOTE="soulreaper-4"]I really don't trust Nintendo as before and i really don't believe the Wii will last a lot more time like 2 years. I don't want to cause a flame war and i am not a troll but the truth is the truth the competition have way better games than the non Nintendo tittles available for Wii, they have more powerful consoles wtih way better graphics capabilities and HD compatabilities plus way better online and after sony realises their Wii Remote copy they will have a way superior Wii with more variety.

I bought my Wii on lunch but the truth is i had to buy a PS3 because the only games that interest me for the Wii are the ones made from Nintendo. If i were with the Wii only i will be missing a lot of awsome games like, uncharted 2, Metal Gear Solid 2, Super Street Fighter IV, Resident Evil 5, Marvel vs Capcom 3, Soul Calibur IV and much more. This is only a small example of why i hope the Wii succesor will be on par with the competition.

It's not a matter of trust, but a matter of examing the situation at hand logically. Nintendo was able to sustain BOTH the N64 and GameCube for five years, and those two systems were in a far worse position in terms of market positioning, support, and future outlook than the Wii is now. What sense would it make for Nintendo to ax the Wii at this point? If the Wii was struggling to sale, I could see the reasoning behind your point, but Nintendo's having trouble keeping supplies in stock for people to buy these days, not having trouble actually selling console units on shelves. Factor in the continued success of the system, items like MotionPlus and the Vitality Sensor still fresh or yet to be properly introduced from a software side of things respectively, and the software side of things finally starting to gain a sense of variety, and everything suggests that the Wii will be around for 2 years, if not longer!

I respect your opinions and all, but none of that's really relevant to the point of the Wii being able to sustain itself. It's still selling systems at a faster rate than anything else on the market not named the DS, and it still has potential to be more than what it is. That in itself is enough to keep it going. The 'advantages' the HD systems have had to this point haven't done anything to steal the Wii's thunder, and it's way to early to say what their motion-controlled add-ons will be able to impact, especially without Nintendo's games. The Wii has been successful only because it's the Wii, and as of now, ONLY the Wii is the Wii (I hope that makes sense).

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]Wii Party man. Wii Party. It's gonna be greater in sales than Mario galaxy 2. Even Zelda Wii isn't going to top Wii Party in sales. Nintendo will put its expected bigger title, Wii Party, during the holidays.umcommon

Nintendo also came out and said "we're sorry for Wii Music" effectively killing the majority of it's sales

If the PR department at Nintendo kept their mouths shut Wii Music would have been another seller to go over 5, instead just as the title was picking up stream they came out and told everyone not to buy it.

Nintendo killed it though because they knew that anything with "Wii" in the title would sell like crazy and you don't want to screw with that number of users

[QUOTE="umcommon"][QUOTE="wiifan001"]Wii Party man. Wii Party. It's gonna be greater in sales than Mario galaxy 2. Even Zelda Wii isn't going to top Wii Party in sales. Nintendo will put its expected bigger title, Wii Party, during the holidays.Jaysonguy

Nintendo also came out and said "we're sorry for Wii Music" effectively killing the majority of it's sales

If the PR department at Nintendo kept their mouths shut Wii Music would have been another seller to go over 5, instead just as the title was picking up stream they came out and told everyone not to buy it.

Nintendo killed it though because they knew that anything with "Wii" in the title would sell like crazy and you don't want to screw with that number of users

[QUOTE="umcommon"][QUOTE="wiifan001"]Wii Party man. Wii Party. It's gonna be greater in sales than Mario galaxy 2. Even Zelda Wii isn't going to top Wii Party in sales. Nintendo will put its expected bigger title, Wii Party, during the holidays.Jaysonguy

Nintendo also came out and said "we're sorry for Wii Music" effectively killing the majority of it's sales

If the PR department at Nintendo kept their mouths shut Wii Music would have been another seller to go over 5, instead just as the title was picking up stream they came out and told everyone not to buy it.

Nintendo killed it though because they knew that anything with "Wii" in the title would sell like crazy and you don't want to screw with that number of users

Actually Nintendo isn't having trouble maintaining supplys of the Wii, that happened long ago. After the ariival of the next Zelda i am preatty sure the Wii will be replace by a successor just like when Majoras Mask arrived for the N64. Motion Plus real capabilities will be show in the upcoming Zelda just like what happened with Majoras Mask. This is what i think, i am no Nintendo Representative to know for sure.soulreaper-4

On the contrary, that thing I said about Wii supplies is still very accurate now. It's something that analysts, stores chains, and even Nintendo itself have addressed very recently.

Comparing Zelda Wii to Majora's Mask isn't exactly the same thing, but for what it's worth, Majora's Mask wasn't the N64's last big game and came a whole year before the GameCube was released. The gap between the upcoming Zelda game will be just as long, if not longer, so rest assured that Zelda won't be the Wii's swan song. It just wouldn't make sense for Nintendo to stop at Zelda Wii as far as using MotionPlus goes, and that still doesn't explain the Vitality Sensor's purpose and who knows what else the Wii might have in store. The system has been too successful for it to be cut off instantaneously by Nintendo and move on, especially when it's still not being challenged at this point by anything.

I'm no Nintendo rep either, but something tells me that the Wii will still be around for a good while. At the very least, until it's at a point where Nintendo's struggling to find significance for it.

[QUOTE="dazzzilla"]

I'll be buying Wii party no matter how **** it seems simply because I want another mario party like game :@, I however doubt it will do well enough to gurantee its own release slot, look at Wii Music..... I do however think Zelda will Launch and be nintendo's big Q4 game. On a side note SMG2 couldn't have come earlier the last decent Wii game was NSMB Wii and that was 7 months ago.

G-dorf11

You my friend, have missed many great games.

No not really, I dont remember any great games that I've missed. I do own a PS3 which is where I play most 3rd party tittles.

Remember Metroid Other M's Delay?

Metroid was Delayed for August, almost September. I think that and possibly Zelda and most likely Wii Party are Nintendo's Holiday Line up.

This is the year of Nintendo. They can release it anytime because they have numerous games this year that will put the Wii back as the number 1 console. Like Metroid: Other M (June 27th), SMG 2(Out Now), Zelda (Late this year), Pokemon Heartgold/Soulsilver(Out Now) (I know DS games and there out already but still) Pokemon Black and White (Also for the DS but will be the 5th Generation pokemon games and be out late this year) Nintendo cant have all these games come out during the holidays how would they make money the rest of the year???? These are there big games so why not space them out during the year so by the time your done 1 of them the next one will be out just in time for you to play? Sounds like a smart business move to me plus Nintendo is a nice company they care about the fans and want to get their games out at earliest convinence as soon as they are settled with the game and think it is as good as it will get it will be released they wont make us wait.

I'm skeptical of any theory that says a company can make more money by not selling their product. If the game's ready in May, why wait until November to sell it?

I'm skeptical of any theory that says a company can make more money by not selling their product. If the game's ready in May, why wait until November to sell it?

aransom

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

It's because Wii Party will be the stronger title

Jaysonguy

I don't think Nintendo is going to be so confident in that game.

No, they weren't confident in Mario Party because Mario can't moves games like he did for them in previous generations

The Wii branded titles are gold on the Wii, even the title that Nintendo said they weren't happy with sold 2.8 million. The Wii titles sell even when they mess them up.

Wow dude, you just don't give up. Do you still think Nintendo's next-gen console will be announced this year and released the next?