What city folk could have been
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I don't know what I would add. I don't pretend to be a genius when it comes to game ideas. But I do know that I wouldn't have made it the exact same game and then try to resell it to everyone. But then again, doesn't EA do that every year with their football games?
If it aint broken. Dont fix it.alexh_99So do you propose that every game should just be rereleased every time a new platform comes out and not changed a bit? City Folk was hardly a sequel, IMO it was almost pure remake.
[QUOTE="alexh_99"]If it aint broken. Dont fix it.Head_of_gamesSo do you propose that every game should just be rereleased every time a new platform comes out and not changed a bit? City Folk was hardly a sequel, IMO it was almost pure remake. im not talking about the exact same game. Im talking about the formula for the game. Im not saying that if they kept releasing the same zelda over and over again that it would be fine. Im saying that since the Zelda formula works then why change it. Same goes with animal crossing. The formula works so there is no need to change it. Now city folk didnt change the formula but it did change the game. Added Wi-Fi, city, wii speak etc.
[QUOTE="dtno132"]Maybe more things to do in town, and more places to go to (zoo, amusment park, etc)Andrnlol at zoo. Oh, the irony. Keeping the game the same isn't a bad thing.In fact, it's not really a good thing either. It's...the same. lol I think I made the dumbest reply ever XD I'll delete that.
If it aint broken. Dont fix it.alexh_99What if parts of it are broken but the thing can still function without those parts? :P That's how I see City Folk.
[QUOTE="Head_of_games"][QUOTE="alexh_99"]If it aint broken. Dont fix it.alexh_99So do you propose that every game should just be rereleased every time a new platform comes out and not changed a bit? City Folk was hardly a sequel, IMO it was almost pure remake. im not talking about the exact same game. Im talking about the formula for the game. Im not saying that if they kept releasing the same zelda over and over again that it would be fine. Im saying that since the Zelda formula works then why change it. Same goes with animal crossing. The formula works so there is no need to change it. Now city folk didnt change the formula but it did change the game. Added Wi-Fi, city, wii speak etc. Well said.
[QUOTE="Head_of_games"][QUOTE="alexh_99"]If it aint broken. Dont fix it.alexh_99So do you propose that every game should just be rereleased every time a new platform comes out and not changed a bit? City Folk was hardly a sequel, IMO it was almost pure remake. im not talking about the exact same game. Im talking about the formula for the game. Im not saying that if they kept releasing the same zelda over and over again that it would be fine. Im saying that since the Zelda formula works then why change it. Same goes with animal crossing. The formula works so there is no need to change it. Now city folk didnt change the formula but it did change the game. Added Wi-Fi, city, wii speak etc. Wasn't Wi-Fi in the DS version? And you can pretty much do everything in the past games that you can do in the city, just not at all times. So thats not new content, just old content made more available. As for Wii Speak, I admit that it's nice to have and it is new. But besides the voice chat, the only new things where items! If find that to be an extreme lack in innovation and undeserving of the title "Sequel".
[QUOTE="alexh_99"][QUOTE="Head_of_games"] So do you propose that every game should just be rereleased every time a new platform comes out and not changed a bit? City Folk was hardly a sequel, IMO it was almost pure remake.Head_of_gamesim not talking about the exact same game. Im talking about the formula for the game. Im not saying that if they kept releasing the same zelda over and over again that it would be fine. Im saying that since the Zelda formula works then why change it. Same goes with animal crossing. The formula works so there is no need to change it. Now city folk didnt change the formula but it did change the game. Added Wi-Fi, city, wii speak etc. Wasn't Wi-Fi in the DS version? And you can pretty much do everything in the past games that you can do in the city, just not at all times. So thats not new content, just old content made more available. As for Wii Speak, I admit that it's nice to have and it is new. But besides the voice chat, the only new things where items! If find that to be an extreme lack in innovation and undeserving of the title "Sequel". Your right the DS version did have Wi-Fi. But city folk still has some other new things. like i have said before wii speak. Other differences are: Events, there are new events that werent in wild world. Neighbors, you have completely different neighbors that act differently, say different things, give you different things. Fish Bugs Fossils Clothes accessories furniture. Yes you can classify most of the later under "Items", but those "items" are what makes animal crossing exciting to play. So changing up the items is changing up a huge portion of the game.
[QUOTE="Head_of_games"][QUOTE="alexh_99"] im not talking about the exact same game. Im talking about the formula for the game. Im not saying that if they kept releasing the same zelda over and over again that it would be fine. Im saying that since the Zelda formula works then why change it. Same goes with animal crossing. The formula works so there is no need to change it. Now city folk didnt change the formula but it did change the game. Added Wi-Fi, city, wii speak etc.alexh_99Wasn't Wi-Fi in the DS version? And you can pretty much do everything in the past games that you can do in the city, just not at all times. So thats not new content, just old content made more available. As for Wii Speak, I admit that it's nice to have and it is new. But besides the voice chat, the only new things where items! If find that to be an extreme lack in innovation and undeserving of the title "Sequel". Your right the DS version did have Wi-Fi. But city folk still has some other new things. like i have said before wii speak. Other differences are: Events, there are new events that werent in wild world. Neighbors, you have completely different neighbors that act differently, say different things, give you different things. Fish Bugs Fossils Clothes accessories furniture. Yes you can classify most of the later under "Items", but those "items" are what makes animal crossing exciting to play. So changing up the items is changing up a huge portion of the game. Still, would it really have killed them to have added in some new features? Fishing could have been much funner if they made it more like that of TP, the city could have at least SOME new content instead of all recycled things, etc. They did add a few things, but nothing major enough to be classified as a sequel IMO. I mean, what if every Zelda released had the same story, temples, etc and the only new things where enemies and inconsequental items. No improved gameplay, no new modes, basicly just an expansion pack. Yes, I think that's the right word for City Folk, an expansion. Nothing more. Don't get me wrong, I never played much of the first games so it's a blast for me, but I imagine that for many AC veterns it must be rather dull.
[QUOTE="Head_of_games"][QUOTE="alexh_99"]If it aint broken. Dont fix it.alexh_99So do you propose that every game should just be rereleased every time a new platform comes out and not changed a bit? City Folk was hardly a sequel, IMO it was almost pure remake. im not talking about the exact same game. Im talking about the formula for the game. Im not saying that if they kept releasing the same zelda over and over again that it would be fine. Im saying that since the Zelda formula works then why change it. Same goes with animal crossing. The formula works so there is no need to change it. Now city folk didnt change the formula but it did change the game. Added Wi-Fi, city, wii speak etc. Better graphics, new characters and more features wouldn't hurt its formula.
[QUOTE="Head_of_games"][QUOTE="alexh_99"]If it aint broken. Dont fix it.alexh_99So do you propose that every game should just be rereleased every time a new platform comes out and not changed a bit? City Folk was hardly a sequel, IMO it was almost pure remake. im not talking about the exact same game. Im talking about the formula for the game. Im not saying that if they kept releasing the same zelda over and over again that it would be fine. Im saying that since the Zelda formula works then why change it. Same goes with animal crossing. The formula works so there is no need to change it. Now city folk didnt change the formula but it did change the game. Added Wi-Fi, city, wii speak etc. The formula is the same, but the game has a lot of new features, its just not a game for everyone and besides the graphics are also improved, I have all the 3 versions and if you compare the wii to gc one, the wii looks a lot better. I tottally agree with alexh_99.
you know what city folk could of been..
it could of been a great game that had absolutely nothing to do with animal crossing but instead they decided to make a increadbly boring waste of time animal crossing
just small things, mostly.
i wish it was possible for two people to play at the same time on the same console. it's funny that i can have up to 3 guests in town with me, but with two of us sharing the same town, we have to take turns. Not a big deal, but missed potential.
when people visit, i wish there was more to do. like mini-games or something.
and the option of complete control over the creation of your character. the options are fairly limited, while other games, such as We Ski, have a lot of variety in character creation.
I still like the game, but I hope they do more with the next one. (I'm still hopeful that DLC will have some unique surprises.)
This game is the same as the last ones. The characters, graphics, music, items, are almost all the same. This game shouldn't cost a penny over $30. I mean, seriously, no work was put into it.santiagochileagain i say. the formula is the same as the previous animal crossings. Thats what makes it Animal crossing. The game is different.
[QUOTE="Head_of_games"][QUOTE="alexh_99"]If it aint broken. Dont fix it.alexh_99So do you propose that every game should just be rereleased every time a new platform comes out and not changed a bit? City Folk was hardly a sequel, IMO it was almost pure remake. im not talking about the exact same game. Im talking about the formula for the game. Im not saying that if they kept releasing the same zelda over and over again that it would be fine. Im saying that since the Zelda formula works then why change it. Same goes with animal crossing. The formula works so there is no need to change it. Now city folk didnt change the formula but it did change the game. Added Wi-Fi, city, wii speak etc.
Wi-Fi was already in Wild World.
im not talking about the exact same game. Im talking about the formula for the game. Im not saying that if they kept releasing the same zelda over and over again that it would be fine. Im saying that since the Zelda formula works then why change it. Same goes with animal crossing. The formula works so there is no need to change it. Now city folk didnt change the formula but it did change the game. Added Wi-Fi, city, wii speak etc.[QUOTE="alexh_99"][QUOTE="Head_of_games"] So do you propose that every game should just be rereleased every time a new platform comes out and not changed a bit? City Folk was hardly a sequel, IMO it was almost pure remake.ZookGuy
Wi-Fi was already in Wild World.
i know. I said that i made that mistake earlierwhat parts do you see broken?alexh_991. Keyboard texting without a USB keyboard is insanely painful and slow. 2. No skin color option - we have the Mii's, I know, but we can't wear all the cool accessories while the Mii mask is on 3. Deleting multiple already read mail at the same time. I still wonder why the hell they took it OUT from the first version. I guess they thought that part of it was broken. :P 4. Ordering from the catalog one item at a time. 5. The city - the subtitle of the game - has nothing to do in it. 6. Already donated items should be highlighted or darkened like other non donating items. 7. Nookingtons closes way to early. There's more, but I cannot think of all of them right now. :D
[QUOTE="alexh_99"]what parts do you see broken?ZumaJones071. Keyboard texting without a USB keyboard is insanely painful and slow. 2. No skin color option - we have the Mii's, I know, but we can't wear all the cool accessories while the Mii mask is on 3. Deleting multiple already read mail at the same time. I still wonder why the hell they took it OUT from the first version. I guess they thought that part of it was broken. :P 4. Ordering from the catalog one item at a time. 5. The city - the subtitle of the game - has nothing to do in it. 6. Already donated items should be highlighted or darkened like other non donating items. 7. Nookingtons closes way to early. There's more, but I cannot think of all of them right now. :D Those aren't that big of issues. But i can see how some of them get annoying. I also think we should be able to wear hats and other accessories while we have our mii mask on
[QUOTE="santiagochile"]This game is the same as the last ones. The characters, graphics, music, items, are almost all the same. This game shouldn't cost a penny over $30. I mean, seriously, no work was put into it.alexh_99again i say. the formula is the same as the previous animal crossings. Thats what makes it Animal crossing. The game is different.
No, its not. Its the same thing we got before. I am glad I am only renting it. This game is so outdated: friend codes, choosing things one at a time, not being able to play at night because the store is closed, etc.. I don't know why they would charge more than $30. We've seen this before, now let's move on.
[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"][QUOTE="alexh_99"]what parts do you see broken?alexh_991. Keyboard texting without a USB keyboard is insanely painful and slow. 2. No skin color option - we have the Mii's, I know, but we can't wear all the cool accessories while the Mii mask is on 3. Deleting multiple already read mail at the same time. I still wonder why the hell they took it OUT from the first version. I guess they thought that part of it was broken. :P 4. Ordering from the catalog one item at a time. 5. The city - the subtitle of the game - has nothing to do in it. 6. Already donated items should be highlighted or darkened like other non donating items. 7. Nookingtons closes way to early. There's more, but I cannot think of all of them right now. :D Those aren't that big of issues. But i can see how some of them get annoying. I also think we should be able to wear hats and other accessories while we have our mii mask on Then why weren't they fixed?? This game is simply a way to make Nintendo a lot of money with almost NO effort put into it. I think they were very generous with a 7.5.
Those aren't that big of issues. But i can see how some of them get annoying. I also think we should be able to wear hats and other accessories while we have our mii mask onalexh_99They aren't that big of an issue which is why the game still works. However, everyday I play the game I find something new to complain about and I realize how many times I've complained before. All the small things just add up and deduct enjoyability for me I guess. I feel like they didn't even play test the game correctly. Give the game to some play testers for like a week and some of the annoyances I said would be relayed back to the development team within the first four days I bet i.e. deleting mail one letter at a time. The only reason I play is because I found my wireless keyboard from awhile ago. :P
again i say. the formula is the same as the previous animal crossings. Thats what makes it Animal crossing. The game is different.[QUOTE="alexh_99"][QUOTE="santiagochile"]This game is the same as the last ones. The characters, graphics, music, items, are almost all the same. This game shouldn't cost a penny over $30. I mean, seriously, no work was put into it.santiagochile
No, its not. Its the same thing we got before. I am glad I am only renting it. This game is so outdated: friend codes, choosing things one at a time, not being able to play at night because the store is closed, etc.. I don't know why they would charge more than $30. We've seen this before, now let's move on.
Can you tell me what the "formula" for animal crossing is.
[QUOTE="santiagochile"]
[QUOTE="alexh_99"] again i say. the formula is the same as the previous animal crossings. Thats what makes it Animal crossing. The game is different.alexh_99
No, its not. Its the same thing we got before. I am glad I am only renting it. This game is so outdated: friend codes, choosing things one at a time, not being able to play at night because the store is closed, etc.. I don't know why they would charge more than $30. We've seen this before, now let's move on.
Can you tell me what the "formula" for animal crossing is.
Try playing it once, and you'll see. Every game is the same, pay the house, work for Tom nook, fish, collect bugs, and fruit. It's not terribly deep.[QUOTE="alexh_99"][QUOTE="santiagochile"]
No, its not. Its the same thing we got before. I am glad I am only renting it. This game is so outdated: friend codes, choosing things one at a time, not being able to play at night because the store is closed, etc.. I don't know why they would charge more than $30. We've seen this before, now let's move on.
santiagochile
Can you tell me what the "formula" for animal crossing is.
Try playing it once, and you'll see. Every game is the same, pay the house, work for Tom nook, fish, collect bugs, and fruit. It's not terribly deep. Exactly. Thats the formula. Changing that would mean it isnt animal crossing.So without changing the formula (keeping it animal crossing) how would you change the game? Nintendo already did some things. New events, Wii speak, city, new fish, bugs, furniture, items. etc. There isn't really much you can change about animal crossing without making it an entirely new/different game
[QUOTE="santiagochile"][QUOTE="alexh_99"]Try playing it once, and you'll see. Every game is the same, pay the house, work for Tom nook, fish, collect bugs, and fruit. It's not terribly deep. Exactly. Thats the formula. Changing that would mean it isnt animal crossing.Can you tell me what the "formula" for animal crossing is.
alexh_99
So without changing the formula (keeping it animal crossing) how would you change the game? Nintendo already did some things. New events, Wii speak, city, new fish, bugs, furniture, items. etc. There isn't really much you can change about animal crossing without making it an entirely new/different game
That's it? Come on, you can do better, and so can Nintendo. How about getting rid of friend codes, how about having the store open all night, how about better graphics, and some new music? How about more activities? I could go on and on. The game is just a cheap cash in, a lazy port.. If they aren't going to change it, they shouldn't be charing $50. This plays like a gamecube game, with a pointer. This is the "revolution" Nintendo promised?More online capabilities. You know some stuff you can do without FCs.
Sorta like random matchmaking in the city. You know so you can find
some stuff in auction house or see the most popular clothing designs
and stuff like that. Make it more online friendly.
[QUOTE="alexh_99"][QUOTE="santiagochile"] Try playing it once, and you'll see. Every game is the same, pay the house, work for Tom nook, fish, collect bugs, and fruit. It's not terribly deep.santiagochileExactly. Thats the formula. Changing that would mean it isnt animal crossing.
So without changing the formula (keeping it animal crossing) how would you change the game? Nintendo already did some things. New events, Wii speak, city, new fish, bugs, furniture, items. etc. There isn't really much you can change about animal crossing without making it an entirely new/different game
That's it? Come on, you can do better, and so can Nintendo. How about getting rid of friend codes, how about having the store open all night, how about better graphics, and some new music? How about more activities? I could go on and on. The game is just a cheap cash in, a lazy port.. If they aren't going to change it, they shouldn't be charing $50. This plays like a gamecube game, with a pointer. This is the "revolution" Nintendo promised?You know friend codes were going to be in so there is no complaining.
Animal crossing is suppose to be about virtual life. So the store has to close at sometime. and one version of the store is open to 1 AM. If your playing past 1 Am, then i suggest you go to bed.
IMO the graphics have improve quite a bit.
I am not sure about new music. i havent unlocked all of the songs yet, but there are the main theme songs that obviously are going to be used again. Just like mario and Zelda still have some of the same music in each game, but no on is complaining about that.
and activities, like going to the city, new events, new chores that your neighbors make you do.
I agree a little that they could have added a bit more into the game, but saying that it is the exact same game is absurd, because it is an "animal crossing" game after all.
[QUOTE="santiagochile"][QUOTE="alexh_99"] Exactly. Thats the formula. Changing that would mean it isnt animal crossing.That's it? Come on, you can do better, and so can Nintendo. How about getting rid of friend codes, how about having the store open all night, how about better graphics, and some new music? How about more activities? I could go on and on. The game is just a cheap cash in, a lazy port.. If they aren't going to change it, they shouldn't be charing $50. This plays like a gamecube game, with a pointer. This is the "revolution" Nintendo promised? You know friend codes were going to be in so there is no complaining. Animal crossing is suppose to be about virtual life. So the store has to close at sometime. and one version of the store is open to 1 AM. If your playing past 1 Am, then i suggest you go to bed. IMO the graphics have improve quite a bit. I am not sure about new music. i havent unlocked all of the songs yet, but there are the main theme songs that obviously are going to be used again. Just like mario and Zelda still have some of the same music in each game, but no on is complaining about that. and activities, like going to the city, new events, new chores that your neighbors make you do. I agree a little that they could have added a bit more into the game, but saying that it is the exact same game is absurd, because it is an "animal crossing" game after all. Why are you defending such a poor effort on Nintendo's part? The FCs are horrible, and ruin the online for me. Im not going to go beg online for friend codes, so I can't play online. Basically, this is the gamecube game with minor additions. Hardly worth $50. They should have made this a Gamecube remake and sold it for $30. The city is a joke, and is only a minor addition. The graphics are pretty much the same, and the theme could easily be changed. I give Nintendo a 0 for effort. It's just a lazy game, plain and simple.So without changing the formula (keeping it animal crossing) how would you change the game? Nintendo already did some things. New events, Wii speak, city, new fish, bugs, furniture, items. etc. There isn't really much you can change about animal crossing without making it an entirely new/different game
alexh_99
[QUOTE="alexh_99"][QUOTE="santiagochile"] That's it? Come on, you can do better, and so can Nintendo. How about getting rid of friend codes, how about having the store open all night, how about better graphics, and some new music? How about more activities? I could go on and on. The game is just a cheap cash in, a lazy port.. If they aren't going to change it, they shouldn't be charing $50. This plays like a gamecube game, with a pointer. This is the "revolution" Nintendo promised? santiagochileYou know friend codes were going to be in so there is no complaining. Animal crossing is suppose to be about virtual life. So the store has to close at sometime. and one version of the store is open to 1 AM. If your playing past 1 Am, then i suggest you go to bed. IMO the graphics have improve quite a bit. I am not sure about new music. i havent unlocked all of the songs yet, but there are the main theme songs that obviously are going to be used again. Just like mario and Zelda still have some of the same music in each game, but no on is complaining about that. and activities, like going to the city, new events, new chores that your neighbors make you do. I agree a little that they could have added a bit more into the game, but saying that it is the exact same game is absurd, because it is an "animal crossing" game after all. Why are you defending such a poor effort on Nintendo's part? The FCs are horrible, and ruin the online for me. Im not going to go beg online for friend codes, so I can't play online. Basically, this is the gamecube game with minor additions. Hardly worth $50. They should have made this a Gamecube remake and sold it for $30. The city is a joke, and is only a minor addition. The graphics are pretty much the same, and the theme could easily be changed. I give Nintendo a 0 for effort. It's just a lazy game, plain and simple. your complaining about FC's when you obviously knew that they were going to be used in this game. Every other nintendo game has FC's you just got to get used to the. Again i say "this is the gamecube formula (not gamecube game) with changed up game play." I agree the city could be improved, but hey beggars can't be choosers. and you have no clue how hard nintendo worked on this game. no one does. Until you do know you can't give them anything for effort.
[QUOTE="santiagochile"][QUOTE="alexh_99"] You know friend codes were going to be in so there is no complaining. Animal crossing is suppose to be about virtual life. So the store has to close at sometime. and one version of the store is open to 1 AM. If your playing past 1 Am, then i suggest you go to bed. IMO the graphics have improve quite a bit. I am not sure about new music. i havent unlocked all of the songs yet, but there are the main theme songs that obviously are going to be used again. Just like mario and Zelda still have some of the same music in each game, but no on is complaining about that. and activities, like going to the city, new events, new chores that your neighbors make you do. I agree a little that they could have added a bit more into the game, but saying that it is the exact same game is absurd, because it is an "animal crossing" game after all.alexh_99Why are you defending such a poor effort on Nintendo's part? The FCs are horrible, and ruin the online for me. Im not going to go beg online for friend codes, so I can't play online. Basically, this is the gamecube game with minor additions. Hardly worth $50. They should have made this a Gamecube remake and sold it for $30. The city is a joke, and is only a minor addition. The graphics are pretty much the same, and the theme could easily be changed. I give Nintendo a 0 for effort. It's just a lazy game, plain and simple. your complaining about FC's when you obviously knew that they were going to be used in this game. Every other nintendo game has FC's you just got to get used to the. Again i say "this is the gamecube formula (not gamecube game) with changed up game play." I agree the city could be improved, but hey beggars can't be choosers. and you have no clue how hard nintendo worked on this game. no one does. Until you do know you can't give them anything for effort. No, the gameplay is practically the same as the Gamecube and DS games. EVERY REVIEW I've read has said the same! Only YOU don't get it. As for FCs, they need to go, and Nintendo should take a hint. As for the effot, its obvious by playing the game that this was a cheap, lazy cash in designed to make a lot of money with minimal effort. The proof is in the pudding. Play the game and you will see, it feels just like the Gamecube game. This should have been MUCH, MUCH better. And you must be the only beggar, because no one else in this thread was begging for a cheap, lazy port of a Gamecube game.
[QUOTE="alexh_99"][QUOTE="santiagochile"] Why are you defending such a poor effort on Nintendo's part? The FCs are horrible, and ruin the online for me. Im not going to go beg online for friend codes, so I can't play online. Basically, this is the gamecube game with minor additions. Hardly worth $50. They should have made this a Gamecube remake and sold it for $30. The city is a joke, and is only a minor addition. The graphics are pretty much the same, and the theme could easily be changed. I give Nintendo a 0 for effort. It's just a lazy game, plain and simple. santiagochileyour complaining about FC's when you obviously knew that they were going to be used in this game. Every other nintendo game has FC's you just got to get used to the. Again i say "this is the gamecube formula (not gamecube game) with changed up game play." I agree the city could be improved, but hey beggars can't be choosers. and you have no clue how hard nintendo worked on this game. no one does. Until you do know you can't give them anything for effort. No, the gameplay is practically the same as the Gamecube and DS games. EVERY REVIEW I've read has said the same! Only YOU don't get it. As for FCs, they need to go, and Nintendo should take a hint. As for the effot, its obvious by playing the game that this was a cheap, lazy cash in designed to make a lot of money with minimal effort. The proof is in the pudding. Play the game and you will see, it feels just like the Gamecube game. This should have been MUCH, MUCH better. And you must be the only beggar, because no one else in this thread was begging for a cheap, lazy port of a Gamecube game.
Let me sum up this argument with a couple words: Nuh-uh. Yeah-huh.
You disagree, we get it.
Yes the game feels like the GameCube game. I loved the GC game. I wish they would have done more with the new one. But I still enjoy what they put together. It's like if they did a graphical overhaul of Mario 3. Sure I know it inside and out... but I would still play it and enjoy it.
Also, perhaps he's defending the title because you're attacking it so aggressively?
No, the gameplay is practically the same as the Gamecube and DS games. EVERY REVIEW I've read has said the same! Only YOU don't get it. As for FCs, they need to go, and Nintendo should take a hint. As for the effot, its obvious by playing the game that this was a cheap, lazy cash in designed to make a lot of money with minimal effort. The proof is in the pudding. Play the game and you will see, it feels just like the Gamecube game. This should have been MUCH, MUCH better. And you must be the only beggar, because no one else in this thread was begging for a cheap, lazy port of a Gamecube game.[QUOTE="santiagochile"][QUOTE="alexh_99"] your complaining about FC's when you obviously knew that they were going to be used in this game. Every other nintendo game has FC's you just got to get used to the. Again i say "this is the gamecube formula (not gamecube game) with changed up game play." I agree the city could be improved, but hey beggars can't be choosers. and you have no clue how hard nintendo worked on this game. no one does. Until you do know you can't give them anything for effort. -starman-
Let me sum up this argument with a couple words: Nuh-uh. Yeah-huh.
You disagree, we get it.
Yes the game feels like the GameCube game. I loved the GC game. I wish they would have done more with the new one. But I still enjoy what they put together. It's like if they did a graphical overhaul of Mario 3. Sure I know it inside and out... but I would still play it and enjoy it.
Also, perhaps he's defending the title because you're attacking it so aggressively?
Read the thread, he's been trolling from the second it appeared. I mean he's been on here whining all day. The game is just a cheap rehash made to make more money for Nintendo stockholders. Just like Wii play and Wii Music, its not advancing anything and really isn't taking advantage of the Wii.No improved gameplay, no new modes, basicly just an expansion pack. Yes, I think that's the right word for City Folk, an expansion. Nothing more. Don't get me wrong, I never played much of the first games so it's a blast for me, but I imagine that for many AC veterns it must be rather dull.Head_of_games
You're correct. When all that's being added are new items, it's called (or should have been) an expansion pack. No-one's asking for a change of formula so to argue against changing the formula is pointless. The people who find the sequel insubstantial do not have an issue with the formula; they just have an issue with the staleness of the gameplay.
Anyway, here are some of my ideas:
• more involvement in fishing: for example, let us buy different lures that work with different kinds of fish (i.e. bottom-dwellers vs. surface fish) and give us the ability to wiggle our line to attract fish, like in Twilight Princess. Also, let us buy or hire different kinds of boats to go further out into the ocean and catch different kinds of fish. The area that you fish in with your boat will determine which kinds of fish you catch (for example, if you fish in a cave, you'll find different kinds of fish than in open water. Different kinds of boats can go further out and therefore reach different locations with new kinds of fish.
• you could even go treasure hunting with your boat in the ocean, similar to how it is in Phantom Hourglass.
• natural disasters: okay, not really, but different kinds of weather, like blizzards, thunderstorms, floods, lightning... different kinds of bugs and fish can surface during or after these events.
• landscaping affects weather: if you cut down all your trees, the climate will become like a desert, and desert plants will grow and desert bugs and animal neighbours will come. If you plant lots of trees and flowers, it will become like a rainforest with those respective bugs and animals. Etc.
• ability to buy a vacation house on an island... and also buy your own froufrou store where you can put things up for auction online.
• Online auctions: even Neopets has an auction system that strangers can participate in and they had it running years ago. We should be able to view people's online auctions, either by searching for the item or by looking at a specific person's froufrou store (just like ebay). It can be set up as a bidding competition, a trade, or a firm price.
• More things to do past 10PM. And dear god, I need someone to sell my fish to. Do I really have to empty my house of furniture in order to store my fish until the next morning? Sometimes I can't get on until after Nook's is closed. Also, the ability to give fish and bugs to friends.
• Wii FC only. No separate AC FC.
• expandable pocket size.
• better ability to plan out where your plants are going to go and more sophisticated landscaping tools (i.e. ability to raise and lower terrain, make flower beds of different sizes, have flowers grow in different ways so they don't look clone-stamped, ability to move hybrids, skin the terrain with different texture patterns)
• less childish aesthetic: I've been trying to convince some friends to buy AC, but when they look at AC, they get turned off by the very young aesthetic. One even looked at me oddly and asked me if I really meant to buy it because it looked to her like a game for six year olds. It would help if the characters didn't look like toddlers and their moms didn't send them letters.
• Ability to form special relationships with neighbours: I like The Sims' system of interaction and friendship. You should be able to become enemies, friends, and best friends with characters, and have different interaction options available to you with different animations.
• the ability to play more games with neighbours, depending on your relationship level with them. For example, those who have been really good friends for a while can play trading spaces and decorate each other's houses.
• Greater level of interactivity: many of the objects you get have very limited interactivity. For example, there is a slide furniture item, but you can't climb up the steps and slide down it. There's a TV with a VCR, but you can't put videos in it. All these items should have special animations that allow players to use them, even place them outside if appropriate, and even have group interactions. Wouldn't it be cool to build a playground in your town and then see your neighbours go to it and play on it? Set up benches around the fountains and watch new travelers come sit in front of your fountain? If you build, say, a carnival, new NPCs will come to visit. Etc.
• Different activities, like kite-flying and making snow angels, and the ability to buy and eat snacks like ice cream and elephant ears in the summer or hot choco in the winter.
• the ability to buy and play VC (and GBA games), sorta like how it was in the original Animal Crossing, but here, you can play your VC and GBA games in a PIP window while you're waiting for things or during travel times (like in No More Heroes.)
• more variety of challenges. Right now, all we have are basically fetch/deliver quests. You could take on odd jobs to earn bells, and the better/faster you do the jobs, the more bells you get.
•better character customisation. Facial features (nose, eyes, mouth, etc), skin colour, makeup, jewelry...
• more variety of songs playing. It gets rather annoying hearing the same one.
Those are just some ideas.
• Wii FC only. No separate AC FC. clicketyclick
This is the only one I have a problem with.
The only "Wii friends" I like to keep are family and close friends. So I wouldn't feel comfortable adding random people to my Wii roster where as with individual games it isn't a problem. Likely because I think of handing out my Wii FC as giving out my phone number, as in I'm allowing someone to contact me whenever they choose. And some people I've played online with, I wouldn't want to give that option.
[QUOTE="clicketyclick"] • Wii FC only. No separate AC FC. AlexSays
This is the only one I have a problem with.
The only "Wii friends" I like to keep are family and close friends. So I wouldn't feel comfortable adding random people to my Wii roster where as with individual games it isn't a problem. Likely because I think of handing out my Wii FC as giving out my phone number, as in I'm allowing someone to contact me whenever they choose. And some people I've played online with, I wouldn't want to give that option.
What does one do with wii codes besides send messages and pics? Because my fam and close friends find it easier to text me on my phone, which is what I'll give out to fam and close friends.What does one do with wii codes besides send messages and pics?clicketyclickSome people are fun with to play online but not fun to talk to on a regular basis. I've met people online, added them to my Wii roster, and had them send me messages about every little thing. Know those commemorative photos you get in Mario Kart? At one point in time I had five of those on my message board in one day. With a limited Wii roster consisting of mostly family, it's nice seeing some of those pictures. But I wouldn't want a roster full of people sending me pictures of fish they caught in Animal Crossing.
Because my fam and close friends find it easier to text me on my phone, which is what I'll give out to fam and close friends.clicketyclickWell the Wii isn't exactly the main mode of communication between me and family members. However, it's nice to see a message every now and then. Like today my brother sent me a picture of him and a lobster he caught in Animal Crossing. I don't expect him to call me and tell me that, because it's not worth the minutes. But it makes a cute message on the Wii. Oh and I actually just got texting the other day since it was the first time I purchased a new phone or upgraded my plan in FOUR years. So that's just NOW an option for me too! 8)
[QUOTE="Head_of_games"][QUOTE="alexh_99"]If it aint broken. Dont fix it.alexh_99So do you propose that every game should just be rereleased every time a new platform comes out and not changed a bit? City Folk was hardly a sequel, IMO it was almost pure remake. im not talking about the exact same game. Im talking about the formula for the game. Im not saying that if they kept releasing the same zelda over and over again that it would be fine. Im saying that since the Zelda formula works then why change it. Same goes with animal crossing. The formula works so there is no need to change it. Now city folk didnt change the formula but it did change the game. Added Wi-Fi, city, wii speak etc. The point is, is that it hardly changed the game. city, worthless to visit more than once a week for a few minutes, wii speak.. a situational bonus for some people. and thats about all. there is ALOT of room to develop on the current AC formula, CF was really a pure rerelease letdown.
I've met people online, added them to my Wii roster, and had them send me messages about every little thing. Know those commemorative photos you get in Mario Kart? At one point in time I had five of those on my message board in one day.With a limited Wii roster consisting of mostly family, it's nice seeing some of those pictures. But I wouldn't want a roster full of people sending me pictures of fish they caught in Animal Crossing.
Well the Wii isn't exactly the main mode of communication between me and family members. However, it's nice to see a message every now and then.
Like today my brother sent me a picture of him and a lobster he caught in Animal Crossing. I don't expect him to call me and tell me that, because it's not worth the minutes. But it makes a cute message on the Wii.AlexSays
Well we're not really into sending people pictures of scores and fish. I mean, the former is boastful, and for the latter, you can just open you're gates and they can pop over to your town and you can pull it out and show it off while the other person uses the clapping emoticon.
Phone-texting or emailing is just so much more immediate and easier, even when you're just talking about wii stuff, especially since you can't access messages while playing games. I keep my computer and phone on while playing (which you probably know since I answered three phone calls while we were playing... sorry...) so they can easily text me to open their gate or that they just got a high score or what do you do after this part in a game... all while playing.
Oh and I actually just got texting the other day since it was the first time I purchased a new phone or upgraded my plan in FOUR years. So that's just NOW an option for me too! 8)AlexSays
It's sooooo useful. Especially since friends are in classes and so you can't always talk to them (and you don't want their phone to go off in class) but you can leave them a message. And also to just say things that aren't worth a phone call. Did you get a phone that has a keyboard?
Did you get a phone that has a keyboard?
clicketyclick
No, the phones with keyboards were a little more expensive than the one I picked out, and I figured I don't text enough to really need a keyboard.
Of course that could always change, which is why I'm glad I have 30 days to decide whether or not I'm happy with the phone.
It is nice though when you just have something short to say, and there's no need for a phone call.
And there's no problem with you answering your phone while playing online. I'm assuming most of your phone calls are a little more important than shootin' the breeze about fish and fruits. :P
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