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#1 carter15kd5
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what do you guys look for in wii shooters as in what is important for you other the controls

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#2 fluffy_kins
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um.... the only shooter I have is metroid prime..... I guess RE4/UC kinda counts too? Idk. But I look for a somewhat interesting plot. Other than that, it's all about the controls

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#3 intro94
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graphics wont be as great as PC games but i personally have standarts for them to look updated and visually gratifying, and then, everything than a normal shooter gamer wants, story, replayability etc. And of course the controls!.
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#4 carter15kd5
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i hate to say it but the wii isnt for fps games moh was just bad online and offline the models look so bad upper body doesnt move and the legs look like the exorcist cod5 online although better lacks the people online as in 4v4 isnt enough to b fun

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#5 craigalan23
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Class-based multiplayer is what i want. Otherwise i will not buy a FPS on the Wii.

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#6 carter15kd5
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fps games in general dont interest me on the wii i rather play them on the pc im more interested in the other genre's

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#7 umcommon
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The total package. Controls, graphics, multiplayer....etc.
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Multiplayer.
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#9 DS_Lightning21
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Right now, it's all about perfecting the Wii controls because the point-and-shoot controls are far more natural than dual-analog or keyboard-and-mouse controls. Developers can worry about online multiplayer and graphics later.

Hopefully The Conduit is a true step in the right direction of where shooters need to go. And then with WiiMotionPlus, there are more possibilities. Let's just hope Red Steel 2 learns from it's mistakes and at least give us one-to-one sword fighting. And then we can finally get our dream Star Wars Lightsaber game and other first-person non-shooter games.

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#10 umcommon
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Developers can worry about online multiplayer and graphics later. DS_Lightning21
Ahhhh no they should hire talent because online isn't that big of an obstacle, PS2 and Xbox had good online so can Wii
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Right now, it's all about perfecting the Wii controls because the point-and-shoot controls are far more natural than dual-analog or keyboard-and-mouse controls. Developers can worry about online multiplayer and graphics later.

Hopefully The Conduit is a true step in the right direction of where shooters need to go. And then with WiiMotionPlus, there are more possibilities. Let's just hope Red Steel 2 learns from it's mistakes and at least give us one-to-one sword fighting. And then we can finally get our dream Star Wars Lightsaber game and other first-person non-shooter games.

DS_Lightning21

^^^ This... If we get someone to put a DEDICATED effort on giving us a great Star Wars Experience (I'm talking KoToR dedication, not Clone Wars: Lightsaber duels dedication) with WiiM+ for lightsaber combat... I will die happy.

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#12 snover2009
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i hate to say it but the wii isnt for fps games

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You will change this statement after you play the Conduit.

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conduit looks like a 1999 half life mod online doesnt stand out to well only 12 people gun shots sound weird and character models seem blocky again i didnt say anything about gameplay because i haven played it yet but as stated above the game doesnt look like its turning out to well

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conduit looks like a 1999 half life mod online doesnt stand out to well only 12 people gun shots sound weird and character models seem blocky again i didnt say anything about gameplay because i haven played it yet but as stated above the game doesnt look like its turning out to well

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Gross exaggeration, don't make someone bust out side by side screenshots to make you look silly.

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#15 carter15kd5
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see there your screen shot of both conduit and natural selection a half life mod

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Oh great, as expected this has led to be another discussion of The Conduit. Please stop before this gets locked.
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#17 carter15kd5
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why is it that all the online games on the wii look so dated

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#18 TaMuK711
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lmao, that screen is from what, their alpha phase of development? Go look at some new screenshots.

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Also I agree, this needs to not be about The Conduit, move along:P To help facilitate this, I will include that I believe good shooters should at least make a decent effort at providing a quality multiplayer experience (local and/or online)

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#19 carter15kd5
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graphic as i prooved are a problem wit fps on the wii gameplay may be good and the online in general isnt powerful enough on the wii for hit regs and less lag

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those screen shots have no ai in them and im just stating why is it we are able to compare a game from 1999 the n64 days from a current gen system games

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lmao, that screen is from what, their alpha phase of development? Go look at some new screenshots.

Image 13

Image 16

Also I agree, this needs to not be about The Conduit, move along:P To help facilitate this, I will include that I believe good shooters should at least make a decent effort at providing a quality multiplayer experience (local and/or online)

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although the hands and the seeing eye thing in the first screen shot look good and the eyes in the second pic the rest of the texture look dated

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#22 intro94
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see there your screen shot of both conduit and natural selection a half life mod

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please man, get real i also played natural selection and you know models look worse than its possible to imagine in a N64 game, and your screenshot proves it.Why you didnt dare include the character models of NS in the screenshot?Bring it!

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those screen shots have no ai in them and im just stating why is it we are able to compare a game from 1999 the n64 days from a current gen system games

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AI says HAI2U... looks like they HV is handling themselves just fine, in motion speaks volumes over screenshots.

Look at the size of the Wii physically compared to the other consoles. Look at what the other consoles put out graphically and look at what HV is doing with The Conduit. The fact that they are fitting quality in a TINY package is great..

And just to make this on topic, Wii shooters should also focus on reading hits to certain parts of the body. It feels much better to aim at something, shoot it in the neck, and it respond accordingly.. adds a huge layer of immersion to the experience.

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#24 carter15kd5
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if u open up the ps3 and 360 their size is mostly to increase cooling

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#25 carter15kd5
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[QUOTE="carter15kd5"]

see there your screen shot of both conduit and natural selection a half life mod

intro94

please man, get real i also played natural selection and you know models look worse than its possible to imagine in a N64 game, and your screenshot proves it.Why you didnt dare include the character models of NS in the screenshot?Bring it!

dont understand do u think ns is on the n64? but here a screen shot of the models remember models from a 1999 half life mod

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boom

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boom

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see?nice shadows and textures..wait no textures, they are just painted(oh and no shadows either).Oh and nice lighting effects...Can you see any?this looked really fine in 99 tho.But to compare it even to the conduit is ridiculous.Conduit is no gow but this is no conduit.

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#29 carter15kd5
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[QUOTE="carter15kd5"]

boom

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see?nice shadows and textures..wait no textures, they are just painted(oh and no shadows either).Oh and nice lighting effects...Can you see any?this looked really fine in 99 tho.But to compare it even to the conduit is ridiculous.Conduit is no gow but this is no conduit.

again unfair to compare this to the single player screens so heres a online screen

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#30 intro94
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no i said NS looked like a n64 game if you read the first post properly not even like a gamecube game. If you are unable the diference between this or Conduit then you cant see any diference in graphical updates, so you could be fine playing anything really.
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#32 TaMuK711
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Video comparisons definitly favor The Conduit over Heroes 2... I play games in motion, not screenshots.

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#33 carter15kd5
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perfect dark 64 (n64 game) 007 nightfire (gamecube) you b the judge

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#34 carter15kd5
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again this isnt only about the condduit this is about wii fps in general sucking

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#35 intro94
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Video comparisons definitly favor The Conduit over Heroes 2... I play games in motion, not screenshots.

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MOH sadly is the worst looking shooter on wii, it does actually looks like Half life 1(i rented MOH 2), even World at war knocks it out of the water like a nuclear bomb.MOH looks really really really bad in motion(which sadly is 100% of the time in all games).
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#36 psychobrew
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conduit looks like a 1999 half life mod online doesnt stand out to well only 12 people gun shots sound weird and character models seem blocky again i didnt say anything about gameplay because i haven played it yet but as stated above the game doesnt look like its turning out to well

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A 1999 half life mod is still better than any console shooter.
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#37 carter15kd5
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[QUOTE="TaMuK711"]

Video comparisons definitly favor The Conduit over Heroes 2... I play games in motion, not screenshots.

intro94

MOH sadly is the worst looking shooter on wii, it does actually looks like Half life 1(i rented MOH 2), even World at war knocks it out of the water like a nuclear bomb.MOH looks really really really bad in motion(which sadly is 100% of the time in all games).

agree the top of the models dont move and the legs of the models r like the exorcist spining around

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#38 thetravman
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MOH online was awesome. The controls hooked me into the genre again (I never liked FPS since Goldeneye). Sad thing is that Wii lacks shooters while the other consoles have too many. The thing to make a successful shooter for Wii is its controls, preferably customizable. I can see bad controls using motion sensing being a disaster. I pray Conduit can nail it.

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#39 GabuEx
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Locked because this thread is inevitably going towards a discussion about the Conduit.