What does Nintendo need to do to get western dev support on the 3DS?

I think something along those lines is just about right. Also, more funding, funding, and funding. Do not just go for the next hype, but instead we need the good ideas to move forward. Tried and true game experiences we know will work.

nintendo 3ds is doing fine , has been since the price drop ,  and  the support will come look at ds 

Don't know, force them to make good games for it, they usually sell.

and maybe a redesign for dual analog are first steps.MicrosoftVP_Ted

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"]and maybe a redesign for dual analog are first steps.jedinat

I am. Call of Duty DS were some of the best action games the DS ever saw. And with a dual analog set up, open world 3PSs can finally hit the scene.El_Zo1212o

That would mean an entirely new iteration of the 3DS. I'm sure Nintendo won't have any problems there. That is, if they intend to treat it like the DS and have 4 different versions. And you say COD DS was a quality action game? What made it "one of the best?" It seems like it'd be more tedious to play an FPS on a handheld with one analog stick than a console. But then again I never tried it.

Prove to western third party developers that their key games can be successful on the 3DS (or any other Nintendo system).

As simple as that sounds on paper, it's the exact opposite of that in practice, since Nintendo has NO control over how those games would actually sell. As we stand now, the average Nintendo consumer just has no interest in western third parties almost exclusively offer as gaming experiences. Nintendo can TRY to change that, such as making their consoles more appealing in design to those familar with other systems, but as we've seen in the past and are seeing right now with the Wii U, it's just likely to do more harm than good.

I think a question that is equally, if not more important to ask is what can western developers do to make their titles more appealing to Nintendo's fanbase, since that is probably the best way they will ever make a mark on ANY of Nintendo's systems. Of course, I don't see that happening either, since most western developers are much too comfortable developing games that are catered to specific tastes and expectations.

So in short, nothing. :P

[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"]I am. Call of Duty DS were some of the best action games the DS ever saw. And with a dual analog set up, open world 3PSs can finally hit the scene.Lucky_Krystal

That would mean an entirely new iteration of the 3DS. I'm sure Nintendo won't have any problems there. That is, if they intend to treat it like the DS and have 4 different versions. And you say COD DS was a quality action game? What made it "one of the best?" It seems like it'd be more tedious to play an FPS on a handheld with one analog stick than a console. But then again I never tried it.

Using the touchscreen as a substitue for an analog stick works way better than you'd think. It almost feels like using a mouse on a PC to me. I actually like it better than two analogs.

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[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"]I am. Call of Duty DS were some of the best action games the DS ever saw. And with a dual analog set up, open world 3PSs can finally hit the scene.logicalfrank

That would mean an entirely new iteration of the 3DS. I'm sure Nintendo won't have any problems there. That is, if they intend to treat it like the DS and have 4 different versions. And you say COD DS was a quality action game? What made it "one of the best?" It seems like it'd be more tedious to play an FPS on a handheld with one analog stick than a console. But then again I never tried it.

Using the touchscreen as a substitue for an analog stick works way better than you'd think. It almost feels like using a mouse on a PC to me. I actually like it better than two analogs.

Not a damn thing because it doesn't NEED western support. The DS didn't have any western games that weren't shovelware or movie tie -in games and it still ended up having a killer library.Shinobishyguy

Agreed. I'd even say the 3DS is doing fine now too, though not quite to the level of the original DS. Western Devs can stick to console games, most aren't creative enough to make a good game on a handheld anyways... just look at the whole Assassin's Creed handheld series.

Selling more hardware would sure get more devs on board.

Western Developed Handheld games usually are along the lines of iPod games.

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[QUOTE="Lucky_Krystal"]

That would mean an entirely new iteration of the 3DS. I'm sure Nintendo won't have any problems there. That is, if they intend to treat it like the DS and have 4 different versions. And you say COD DS was a quality action game? What made it "one of the best?" It seems like it'd be more tedious to play an FPS on a handheld with one analog stick than a console. But then again I never tried it.

Apocalypse324

Using the touchscreen as a substitue for an analog stick works way better than you'd think. It almost feels like using a mouse on a PC to me. I actually like it better than two analogs.

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I I picked up a 3DS this week and a PSP last year because of the Japanese support, mostly JRPG's. I could care less about Western dev support on portables. I get my fix of Western games from PC/360/PS3.

That's the million dollar question. It seems western developers are only interested in Home consoles.

I would rather have 5 quality Japanese games than 20 crappy shareware western developed games for my 3DS. Unless they put their A game effort into portable game development, then the western developers should not even bother trying at all.

[QUOTE="logicalfrank"]Using the touchscreen as a substitue for an analog stick works way better than you'd think. It almost feels like using a mouse on a PC to me. I actually like it better than two analogs.Apocalypse324

Send hired goons to steal pets and rough up relitives. 

1. Make the 3DS development software free to download by anyone in both the eShop and on PC

2. Charge $99 a year like Apple/Google/MS (XNA) to publish and use this software

3. Have the iOS/Android gaming bubble burst, which it looks like it will in the next few years anyway

if they work close to nintendo, and nintendo isn't too strict on what they can and can't do, then they could make some pretty good games. look at the devs who making luigi's masion 2(they from british columbia btw). People seem to be loving what they seen and they made only shovelware before. though I guess we  really don't know if will be really good game till it comes out.