What if ESRB ban No More Hereos

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#1 necorium
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I had a terrifying thought this morning on the way to work. What if the ESRB ban the PAL version of No More Heroes. I'm really excited about the game but its meant to be very violent so i'm worried. I keep seeing news stories on how the Wii motion controls are so harmful because they can stimulate actual violent acts. Which is pure bull in my opinion.

What this is coming down to is a violation on my right to freedom of choice. As an adult i should choose which games i can play, not some stuff board who probably only play solitaire..

If the ESRB ban this game i will hunt each one of them down and murder them in a torturous way. Not because video games have made me violent but rather because the ESRB don't know anything about what they are doing and are censoring my favourite games. (its a joke but i hope you see my point).. Its not games that cause people to do terrible things, its terrible people. This whole censorship and banning thing makes we sick? I thought be lived in a democracy where we can choose what we want to consume.

I had so much more to say but i'm getting angry now so i will leave it.

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I had a terrifying thought this morning on the way to work. What if the ESRB ban the PAL version of No More Heroes. I'm really excited about the game but its meant to be very violent so i'm worried. I keep seeing news stories on how the Wii motion controls are so harmful because they can stimulate actual violent acts. Which is pure bull in my opinion.

What this is coming down to is a violation on my right to freedom of choice. As an adult i should choose which games i can play, not some stuff board who probably only play solitaire..

If the ESRB ban this game i will hunt each one of them down and murder them in a torturous way. Not because video games have made me violent but rather because the ESRB don't know anything about what they are doing and are censoring my favourite games. (its a joke but i hope you see my point).. Its not games that cause people to do terrible things, its terrible people. This whole censorship and banning thing makes we sick? I thought be lived in a democracy where we can choose what we want to consume.

I had so much more to say but i'm getting angry now so i will leave it.

necorium

The same thing happened with "video nasties" in the eighties. Once the tabloid press get their hands on something like this they don't let it go. There is no proven link between playing video games and violent behaviour. There is a RATINGS system to advise parents that the game is unsuitable for their children. If parents are too stupid to buy these games for their kids as responsible adults then I feel sorry for society. I am an adult, I have a right to choose what movies I watch or games I play. I do not buy adult games for kids. Very simple. I have heard many stories of people working in video game stores telling parents there is extreme violence in game X and it has an M for mature or over 18 rating. Parents think games are for kids, its only a game! Well, what if a kid says, "I really want that hardcore porno movie for Christmas!" "But, but, my friend has it!" It's a double standard. People have to realise that games are an independent medium, and art in there own right. Our hobby and we as gamers need to be treated with more respect than that which we currently receive from censorship watchdogs and the media.

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#3 Wintry_Flutist
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We would already know if ESRB had a problem with this game.
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#4 ciaran22
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We would already know if ESRB had a problem with this game.Wintry_Flutist

True. I wasn't so much ranting about the possibility of No More Heroes being banned but more on the image of the gaming industry as a whole.

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#5 princesszelda
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Why would they even think about banning this game?

You shouldn't haver to worry though because if there was a problem with this game the ESRB would have let us know a while ago.

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#6 necorium
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Well the ESRB are already in censor the Wii mode.. And as each day passes i see more and more ESRB stories which basically screw the gamers in the end. ESRB are not going to like the whole hitman and killing people with swords when you are doing it with a Wii remote. Look, i really really really hope they don't do anything to this game but my post was more that i do worry about this game and others. Yes, you are right. Games are art. And it sounds like most of us are resposnible. As a responsible human being who has never hacked off anyones head in real life (but thousands of times in games) i demand the ESRB quit ruining games.

Sure, if a game glorifies suicide bombing and sends out hypno waves to brainwash people then ban the game. But games aren't like that. Not at all.

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#7 thebisonx
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Personally, I don't believe there's anything to worry about.
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The zapper was about to get banned. Hillary Clinton tried to ban it.
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The zapper was about to get banned. Hillary Clinton tried to ban it. oyvoyvoyv

She didn't try to ban it. She cosponsored a bill (along with Sam Brownback and some other people) that would make the ESRB take into account the Wii-actions in the game. This was in response to Manhunt's M rating where the player still acts out the killing.

Also, don't get mad at the ESRB for anything unless there's a real problem with a score. They don't ban games, Nintendo does. I blame Nintendo more for the Manhunt 2 fiasco than I do the ESRB. If they truly cared about video games and the artistic integrities of developers, they would allow for a game to come onto their consoles unchanged.

As for No More Heroes, didn't it narrowly avoid an AO by being cel-shaded?

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#10 Legend-Gamer
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even if they did... i would murder them

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#11 chego720
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It wasn't made by Rockstar, so you don't have to worry.
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It was banned, which I don't think it will be, I'd buy it off the black market. :|
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[QUOTE="oyvoyvoyv"]The zapper was about to get banned. Hillary Clinton tried to ban it. JAB991

She didn't try to ban it. She cosponsored a bill (along with Sam Brownback and some other people) that would make the ESRB take into account the Wii-actions in the game. This was in response to Manhunt's M rating where the player still acts out the killing.

Also, don't get mad at the ESRB for anything unless there's a real problem with a score. They don't ban games, Nintendo does. I blame Nintendo more for the Manhunt 2 fiasco than I do the ESRB. If they truly cared about video games and the artistic integrities of developers, they would allow for a game to come onto their consoles unchanged.

As for No More Heroes, didn't it narrowly avoid an AO by being cel-shaded?

Not this garbage again. No console manufactorer allows AO games. Not Microsoft not Sony, Not Nintendo, Not SEGA, Not Atari if they were still around, no video game company that would make a console would let AO games be on them.

Brick and mortar stores don't carry AO games nor do most online retailers. 90-99 of stores will not carry an AO game. It's a kiss of death.

No more heroes has already been rated M. Here me it is already been rated. Nintendo Power and others are playing a competed US version. Sheesh get some effing brains.

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#14 necorium
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sorry einstein..
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#15 AndYOU
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It won't be banned. But if it was, I'll find a way to get it anyway
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#16 necorium
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BUT actually let me tell you where I am coming from. Manhunt 2 got banned in UK. That means there is NO pal release. That means i cannot play it EVER(regardless of the quality of game).. So it could easily happen!! All it needs is for the UK to say wait a minute, this is violent and look you chop peoples heads off all reall like.. Yeah.. i leave it there.
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I play a lot of violent games and I don't even kill spiders :D

I thought it was lame that Manhunt had to tone down their game or it would receive an adult rating which means most stores would not carry it. I also find it odd that the Wii version makes the killing blurry.

How does violence equal adult. Adult rating on a video game is the same as X rated for a movie. Since when does a violent gory movie get an X rating? Never, that's when. Not even a crazy ass movie like Hostel II receives an X rating.

The only video games that should receive and adult rating are games like 3d sex dolls. But who is going to play those non-functioning games anyways.

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BUT actually let me tell you where I am coming from. Manhunt 2 got banned in UK. That means there is NO pal release. That means i cannot play it EVER(regardless of the quality of game).. So it could easily happen!! All it needs is for the UK to say wait a minute, this is violent and look you chop peoples heads off all reall like.. Yeah.. i leave it there.necorium

They usual attack rockstar. This is made ubisoft and the people who made kiler 7 and if killer 7 can get released this game has no problem.

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I had a terrifying thought this morning on the way to work. What if the ESRB ban the PAL version of No More Heroes. I'm really excited about the game but its meant to be very violent so i'm worried. I keep seeing news stories on how the Wii motion controls are so harmful because they can stimulate actual violent acts. Which is pure bull in my opinion.

What this is coming down to is a violation on my right to freedom of choice. As an adult i should choose which games i can play, not some stuff board who probably only play solitaire..

If the ESRB ban this game i will hunt each one of them down and murder them in a torturous way. Not because video games have made me violent but rather because the ESRB don't know anything about what they are doing and are censoring my favourite games. (its a joke but i hope you see my point).. Its not games that cause people to do terrible things, its terrible people. This whole censorship and banning thing makes we sick? I thought be lived in a democracy where we can choose what we want to consume.

I had so much more to say but i'm getting angry now so i will leave it.

necorium
It's cartoon violence, unlike Manhunt's realistic violence.. So it wont be banned...
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#20 Jaysonguy
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Why would they even think about banning this game?

You shouldn't haver to worry though because if there was a problem with this game the ESRB would have let us know a while ago.

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There's your answer right there.

The thing is that while there's violence in No More Heroes it's so slapstick/over the top/comical that it's not really seen in the same way real life descriptions of violence are seen.