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#1 specialzed
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The wise guys over at Nintendo think they are pretty smart huh? What if the system doesnt sell? They have the audacity to RAISE the price of THEIR system and then tell the people that are going to buy it that the high price is THEIR fault? You've gotta be kidding me Nintendo!

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We can either fall for Nintendo's business strategy's (not caring about the gamers and trying to make as much money off hype as possible) or we can get mad and show Nintendo that without us they wouldnt even be around. The Playstation move kicks the wii off a cliff and sales for the wii are only going to drop from here. Nintendo is only going to sell this and then a remodel of this until they can finally make a next generation console to sell which will probly take years. If we dont buy the 3DS Nintendo with wake up and figure out that they cant play around with gamers like that, if you really want a 3DS go ahead and buy one for 300 US dollars, I will not be buying one and i'd like to know who agrees with this idea.

Console no sell = price drop, quicker redesign, anything they can do to MAKE it sell.

People who make console no sell (gamers) = reap rewards.

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#2 NaveedLife
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before we go into an uproar, lets see what the price is outside of Japan. Although it is never right of them to jack up a price, they probably won't have it unreasonable in the states and elsewhere. I would predict $250, but who knows, it could even be a bit less. If it is over $250 though that is a bit crazy. I think $250 sounds about fair, but closer to $200 would be a smart move to help systems fly off shelves.

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#3 AmayaPapaya
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250 sounds good, and it most likely will be the price here.

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#4 specialzed
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before we go into an uproar, lets see what the price is outside of Japan. Although it is never right of them to jack up a price, they probably won't have it unreasonable in the states and elsewhere. I would predict $250, but who knows, it could even be a bit less. If it is over $250 though that is a bit crazy. I think $250 sounds about fair, but closer to $200 would be a smart move to help systems fly off shelves.

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250 is too much in my opinion. The most I would pay is how much a wii is now (around 209) but 199 would be a good price for it. Still alot more than the psp 3000 but not too much more. If the redesign came out for the same price fans would be very happy and they would sell many of those too. I'll wait to see but if they said 300 I dont see why they would make it cheaper than that. Hmmm 3DS or PS3....... =/[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

before we go into an uproar, lets see what the price is outside of Japan. Although it is never right of them to jack up a price, they probably won't have it unreasonable in the states and elsewhere. I would predict $250, but who knows, it could even be a bit less. If it is over $250 though that is a bit crazy. I think $250 sounds about fair, but closer to $200 would be a smart move to help systems fly off shelves.

specialzed

250 is too much in my opinion. The most I would pay is how much a wii is now (around 209) but 199 would be a good price for it. Still alot more than the psp 3000 but not too much more. If the redesign came out for the same price fans would be very happy and they would sell many of those too. I'll wait to see but if they said 300 I dont see why they would make it cheaper than that. Hmmm 3DS or PS3....... =/

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I think 250 is reasonable. 3DS does what all the other consoles aren't doing.

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#6 Calvin079
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The wise guys over at Nintendo think they are pretty smart huh? What if the system doesnt sell? They have the audacity to RAISE the price of THEIR system and then tell the people that are going to buy it that the high price is THEIR fault? You've gotta be kidding me Nintendo!

We can either fall for Nintendo's business strategy's (not caring about the gamers and trying to make as much money off hype as possible) or we can get mad and show Nintendo that without us they wouldnt even be around. The Playstation move kicks the wii off a cliff and sales for the wii are only going to drop from here. Nintendo is only going to sell this and then a remodel of this until they can finally make a next generation console to sell which will probly take years. If we dont buy the 3DS Nintendo with wake up and figure out that they cant play around with gamers like that, if you really want a 3DS go ahead and buy one for 300 US dollars, I will not be buying one and i'd like to know who agrees with this idea.

Console no sell = price drop, quicker redesign, anything they can do to MAKE it sell.

People who make console no sell (gamers) = reap rewards.

specialzed

As its been stated before the 300 dollar price is NOT for the US; its for Japan. And no, i'm not getting one.

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#7 Pixel-Perfect
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Nintendo's going to sell their product at the highest price they think they can, just like any other company. This is nothing new.

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#8 SakusEnvoy
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DSi XL was $190. 3DS may be... $250? If you compare what you get with each system, as well as potential lifespans and support, the 3DS to me ends up looking like an absolute steal. Ever since the DSi debuted Nintendo has been making a large profit on each unit sold. It's been going on for a long time and is nothing new.

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#9 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

before we go into an uproar, lets see what the price is outside of Japan. Although it is never right of them to jack up a price, they probably won't have it unreasonable in the states and elsewhere. I would predict $250, but who knows, it could even be a bit less. If it is over $250 though that is a bit crazy. I think $250 sounds about fair, but closer to $200 would be a smart move to help systems fly off shelves.

specialzed

250 is too much in my opinion. The most I would pay is how much a wii is now (around 209) but 199 would be a good price for it. Still alot more than the psp 3000 but not too much more. If the redesign came out for the same price fans would be very happy and they would sell many of those too. I'll wait to see but if they said 300 I dont see why they would make it cheaper than that. Hmmm 3DS or PS3....... =/

first of all, don't compare prices of an old PSP to a new 3DS. If you look at not only how much better the graphics are (the biggest leap we have seen from Nintendo thus far) but also all the functionality and tech they included, I think having the same price tag as a PSP had when it launched, is really not that bad. And why would I think they would lower the price from $300 to $250 or whatever? Maybe because they ALWAYS do, and because Japan pays more for video game hardware ;).

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#10 misiufraggle
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Don't forget Japanese hardware always come packaged with different stuff than the other markets as well. For example the Japanese Wii didn't come with Wii Sports! I think if it is $300 outside of Japan, and that is a BIG if, then it could well come bundled with a game like PilotWings or Nintendogs.

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#11 Gamingclone
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Why? Why oh why! Are people complaining about the price!? That price tag for the 3DS in Japan, $300 (25,000 yen I believe), is just for Japan. Before we all start crying, ranting, and claiming that we are going to wait for a price drop, LETS WAIT for Nintendo in all other places but Japan to announce the price. Trust me, it is not going to be more than $249.99 in the America. Things are always more expensive in Japan. Plus the American launches always comes bundle with something, so whatever price the 3DS gets (its not going to be $300) it is going to be well worth it. Start saving now people.

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#12 cprmauldin
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It is a new Nintendo Handheld.

It will Sell.

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highly misinformed person ranting over something wrong? not sure if i should comment on this.
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#14 specialzed
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This is intresting to me, seems they have already got alot of you guys brainwashed. New console? Lol its a DS period. Leap in graphics? um ok thats why my psp looks better. When I bought my DS it was at a reasonable price, I wont buy another of the same thing at such a high price then defend the company trying to make so much profit.

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This is intresting to me, seems they have already got alot of you guys brainwashed. New console? Lol its a DS period. Leap in graphics? um ok thats why my psp looks better. When I bought my DS it was at a reasonable price, I wont buy another of the same thing at such a high price then defend the company trying to make so much profit.

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someone needs to do their homework on the 3DS. stopped reading at "Lol its a DS". as for the topic...im not getting too flustered with the price in japan but 250 euro for the unit is my limit. now if its 300 but comes with a game i like (kid icarus ninty....kid icarus :) ) then fair enough. but for the thing itself 250 is as high as i will go.
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This is intresting to me, seems they have already got alot of you guys brainwashed. New console? Lol its a DS period. Leap in graphics? um ok thats why my psp looks better. When I bought my DS it was at a reasonable price, I wont buy another of the same thing at such a high price then defend the company trying to make so much profit.

specialzed

The system will most likely cost $250 in the states, which is what the PSP cost at first as well. It has better graphics then the PSP, and a whole lot more features. it is NEW NEW NEW NEW NEW handheld not a revision.

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This is intresting to me, seems they have already got alot of you guys brainwashed. New console? Lol its a DS period. Leap in graphics? um ok thats why my psp looks better. When I bought my DS it was at a reasonable price, I wont buy another of the same thing at such a high price then defend the company trying to make so much profit.

specialzed
You really need to do some research into this before you start complaining about it, this is a NEW console not just ANOTHER DS, just like how the Xbox 360 isn't just another Xbox, or the PS3 isn't just another PS1, but like with the Xbox 360 and PS3, Nintendo decided to stick with the name of the past console because the 3DS takes traits from the DS (mostly DSi) and improves on them, and because it has become a household name. Also the 3DS does so much more than the original DS ever could, it has the new Analog Stick, it plays 3D Games, 3D Movies (shown at E3, not confirmed if any will be released), and takes 3D pictures(all without the need for Glasses), It also has the Virtual Handheld which allows users to download and play GB and GBC games(GBA games are also been looked into), also the 3DS has graphics that are BETTER than the PS2/PSP and Wii (look at Snake Eater 3DS). There are other things that I missed out because I got bored of writing this, so you should look up the rest yourself, but overall the 3DS is NOT just ANOTHER DS, it is superior to it in every way and is easily worth $250 for a completely different reason to all the ones above, it is worth $250 for The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3DS.
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I'm still not paying 250. So I agree.
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#19 mariokart64fan
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this is a new handheld stop comparing it to dsixl , -a remake of a ds

and stop comparing it to a psp or psp go-which is by the way 249,99 and you can not play unds on it so with that said , i think 300 is a steal if it is 300 in the states not like you didnt pay 300-500 -even 600 for a ps3 /360

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#20 Cruse34
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I have thought about this thread alot and might have got modded in it (sorry I can't remember theres been a few lately)

What if we don't buy it? You will miss out on some excellent games and wish you'd payed to experience them

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#21 specialzed
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You people need to stop saying its not going to be 300. You have ABSOLUTLEY NO FACTS that can tell you it isnt going to be 300. The only FACT is that its SELLING for 300 in japan. Thats all we have to work with, thats the ONLY thing that can be said. Say it as much as you want, I wish I could say the new Range Rover Evouqe I plan on purchasing will be 10 bucks but it doesnt matter how many times I say it, it wont be.

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You people need to stop saying its not going to be 300. You have ABSOLUTLEY NO FACTS that can tell you it isnt going to be 300. The only FACT is that its SELLING for 300 in japan. Thats all we have to work with, thats the ONLY thing that can be said. Say it as much as you want, I wish I could say the new Range Rover Evouqe I plan on purchasing will be 10 bucks but it doesnt matter how many times I say it, it wont be.

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No, 300 is the converson of yen to american money. If you look at how Nintendo has sold their past portable systems in Japan, you will find that none of them have ever been sold for the convertion price. (By that I mean we have never seen Nintendo sell something for likelets say 25000 yen, which when converted to american money is $300, in Japan and then find that in America it is selling for the convertion price) If I remember correctly, the Wii was sold for 25000 yen too when it first launched in Japan, and omg look! In America it was being sold for 249.99 at launch. Convertion Price sould never be trusted.

True, we have no facts (just facts about pricing on other Nintendo's products) but neither do you guys, you guys that are whining about the price, you have no facts either. Iwata never said "Hey sheep! The 3DS is going to cost 25000 yen, and since the price is going to be the same around the world (just converted to that areas money) it is going to be $300" No Im sorry he didnt say that. All Nintendo (he) said was: "Nintendo president Satoru Iwata confirmed that the 3DS will go on sale on February 26, 2011, in Japan for ¥25,000 ($299). The portable's US and European launch will follow a month later in March, but no price details were given by Nintendo for those regions, with the publisher saying these announcements would be made later by the company's overseas branches."Where do you see in there Nintendo saying that the Price will be $300 in America, where do you see anywhere in there of them saying that 3DS is going to have the same price everywhere? You see, they never said that. It has only been confirmed for Japan. Fact: Nintendo has like always sold their products for more over in Japan, None of Nintendo's products have ever costed the same (even with convertion of money) in all contries, Nintendo is not making you buy this beauty. If you dont want it, dont get it.

As for the rest of us who dont live in Japan and who have actually read all of the 3DS's articles carefully, we know as of now, the price has only been confirmed for Japan it is very unlikely (notice Im not saying it is not going to happen) that the 3DS is going to cost more than $250 in America at least (dont know about Europe of Austrialia).

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So don't buy it. More for me.

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If the 3DS is priced at $250 or more, you can bet, barring any game changing price drop, it will sell far short of the amount the DS has sold. No matter what compelling software comes out for it.

Victory for the 3DS next generation is in no way guaranteed. New competitors can arise, or old competitors can sweep the rug out from under Nintendo by offering more content, good software, and at a cheaper price. If there was any gen Nintendo could not win decisively it would be this gen.

I expect the 3DS to sell well its first year, for a new platform. Its the years after, and with other platforms coming, that I'm waiting to see how it all shakes out.

Now, $200 or $220 might alleviate consumer concerns, but the 3DS is running the risk of being the same price, if not more, than all its competitors in the handheld gaming space.

The Core gamers will buy it, its the casuals Nintendo should be concerned about.

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If the 3DS is priced at $250 or more, you can bet, barring any game changing price drop, it will sell far short of the amount the DS has sold. No matter what compelling software comes out for it.

Victory for the 3DS next generation is in no way guaranteed. New competitors can arise, or old competitors can sweep the rug out from under Nintendo by offering more content, good software, and at a cheaper price. If there was any gen Nintendo could not win decisively it would be this gen.

I expect the 3DS to sell well its first year, for a new platform. Its the years after, and with other platforms coming, that I'm waiting to see how it all shakes out.

Now, $200 or $220 might alleviate consumer concerns, but the 3DS is running the risk of being the same price, if not more, than all its competitors in the handheld gaming space.

The Core gamers will buy it, its the casuals Nintendo should be concerned about.

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200 or 220 would alleviate SOME? seriously what do you expect the price tag to be? The system does a lot, it is unique, and it is quite powerful for a handheld. People complain that the Wii doesnt have HD, a harddrive and awesome graphics, but then they (seemingly, you) come along and don't want a high price tag on it. Well pick one. I would rather have a $250 tag on the system and have it be a powerful handheld with many features, rather then be 150 and only slightly better then the DS.

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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

If the 3DS is priced at $250 or more, you can bet, barring any game changing price drop, it will sell far short of the amount the DS has sold. No matter what compelling software comes out for it.

Victory for the 3DS next generation is in no way guaranteed. New competitors can arise, or old competitors can sweep the rug out from under Nintendo by offering more content, good software, and at a cheaper price. If there was any gen Nintendo could not win decisively it would be this gen.

I expect the 3DS to sell well its first year, for a new platform. Its the years after, and with other platforms coming, that I'm waiting to see how it all shakes out.

Now, $200 or $220 might alleviate consumer concerns, but the 3DS is running the risk of being the same price, if not more, than all its competitors in the handheld gaming space.

The Core gamers will buy it, its the casuals Nintendo should be concerned about.

NaveedLife

200 or 220 would alleviate SOME? seriously what do you expect the price tag to be? The system does a lot, it is unique, and it is quite powerful for a handheld. People complain that the Wii doesnt have HD, a harddrive and awesome graphics, but then they (seemingly, you) come along and don't want a high price tag on it. Well pick one. I would rather have a $250 tag on the system and have it be a powerful handheld with many features, rather then be 150 and only slightly better then the DS.

Yep, I'd rather have$250 next gen handheld called the3DS with lots of features and great games rather than a $170 DSi 3D xl where on a few games support 3D.

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#27 specialzed
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You people need to stop saying its not going to be 300. You have ABSOLUTLEY NO FACTS that can tell you it isnt going to be 300. The only FACT is that its SELLING for 300 in japan. Thats all we have to work with, thats the ONLY thing that can be said. Say it as much as you want, I wish I could say the new Range Rover Evouqe I plan on purchasing will be 10 bucks but it doesnt matter how many times I say it, it wont be.

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No, 300 is the converson of yen to american money. If you look at how Nintendo has sold their past portable systems in Japan, you will find that none of them have ever been sold for the convertion price. (By that I mean we have never seen Nintendo sell something for likelets say 25000 yen, which when converted to american money is $300, in Japan and then find that in America it is selling for the convertion price) If I remember correctly, the Wii was sold for 25000 yen too when it first launched in Japan, and omg look! In America it was being sold for 249.99 at launch. Convertion Price sould never be trusted.

True, we have no facts (just facts about pricing on other Nintendo's products) but neither do you guys, you guys that are whining about the price, you have no facts either. Iwata never said "Hey sheep! The 3DS is going to cost 25000 yen, and since the price is going to be the same around the world (just converted to that areas money) it is going to be $300" No Im sorry he didnt say that. All Nintendo (he) said was: "Nintendo president Satoru Iwata confirmed that the 3DS will go on sale on February 26, 2011, in Japan for ¥25,000 ($299). The portable's US and European launch will follow a month later in March, but no price details were given by Nintendo for those regions, with the publisher saying these announcements would be made later by the company's overseas branches."Where do you see in there Nintendo saying that the Price will be $300 in America, where do you see anywhere in there of them saying that 3DS is going to have the same price everywhere? You see, they never said that. It has only been confirmed for Japan. Fact: Nintendo has like always sold their products for more over in Japan, None of Nintendo's products have ever costed the same (even with convertion of money) in all contries, Nintendo is not making you buy this beauty. If you dont want it, dont get it.

As for the rest of us who dont live in Japan and who have actually read all of the 3DS's articles carefully, we know as of now, the price has only been confirmed for Japan it is very unlikely (notice Im not saying it is not going to happen) that the 3DS is going to cost more than $250 in America at least (dont know about Europe of Austrialia).

In November 1990 the Super Nintendo Launched in Japan for 25,000 yen (210) US and in August 1991 it lauched in the US for $199 only 10 dollars less. Same with the N64 in 96. The original Game Boy costed more in america (89.99) than it did in Japan (5800 yen). The list goes on so get your facts straight before you go making false claims. I wouldnt say im whining about the price, I could care less about it as im not going to be buying a 3DS, im simply expressing my anger towards nintendo and their marketing schemes. My idea of the conversion price is alot more solid than your empty speculation. Everyone has agreed on 250 eh? Its gonna be a funny day when the lauch price is announced. Also you do know that there is going to be a redesign right? Its probly gonna cost less than this bulky one too. Please buy if you like :)
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Also you do know that there is going to be a redesign right? Its probly gonna cost less than this bulky one too. Please buy if you like :)specialzed

I bought an original model DS when it first launched, and that's the only DS I've ever owned. The DS Lite, the DSi, and the DS XL all came and went without me even noticing.

I didn't upgrade from my original, bulky, white, 4 AA battery Game Boy until the GBA launched. No Game Boy Pocket or Game Boy Color for me. Didn't even buy a new Game Boy when the original model came out in different colors.

I eventually decided to go ahead and upgrade from a regular GBA to a GBA SP, but that wasn't until the end of the GBA's system life. In fact, I might have bought it after I bought the DS. Don't remember exactly.

My point being that I don't care how many models of the same system Nintendo decides to put out, because I don't trade in or update. The first one is good enough for me.

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[QUOTE="Gamingclone"]

[QUOTE="specialzed"]

You people need to stop saying its not going to be 300. You have ABSOLUTLEY NO FACTS that can tell you it isnt going to be 300. The only FACT is that its SELLING for 300 in japan. Thats all we have to work with, thats the ONLY thing that can be said. Say it as much as you want, I wish I could say the new Range Rover Evouqe I plan on purchasing will be 10 bucks but it doesnt matter how many times I say it, it wont be.

specialzed

No, 300 is the converson of yen to american money. If you look at how Nintendo has sold their past portable systems in Japan, you will find that none of them have ever been sold for the convertion price. (By that I mean we have never seen Nintendo sell something for likelets say 25000 yen, which when converted to american money is $300, in Japan and then find that in America it is selling for the convertion price) If I remember correctly, the Wii was sold for 25000 yen too when it first launched in Japan, and omg look! In America it was being sold for 249.99 at launch. Convertion Price sould never be trusted.

True, we have no facts (just facts about pricing on other Nintendo's products) but neither do you guys, you guys that are whining about the price, you have no facts either. Iwata never said "Hey sheep! The 3DS is going to cost 25000 yen, and since the price is going to be the same around the world (just converted to that areas money) it is going to be $300" No Im sorry he didnt say that. All Nintendo (he) said was: "Nintendo president Satoru Iwata confirmed that the 3DS will go on sale on February 26, 2011, in Japan for ¥25,000 ($299). The portable's US and European launch will follow a month later in March, but no price details were given by Nintendo for those regions, with the publisher saying these announcements would be made later by the company's overseas branches."Where do you see in there Nintendo saying that the Price will be $300 in America, where do you see anywhere in there of them saying that 3DS is going to have the same price everywhere? You see, they never said that. It has only been confirmed for Japan. Fact: Nintendo has like always sold their products for more over in Japan, None of Nintendo's products have ever costed the same (even with convertion of money) in all contries, Nintendo is not making you buy this beauty. If you dont want it, dont get it.

As for the rest of us who dont live in Japan and who have actually read all of the 3DS's articles carefully, we know as of now, the price has only been confirmed for Japan it is very unlikely (notice Im not saying it is not going to happen) that the 3DS is going to cost more than $250 in America at least (dont know about Europe of Austrialia).

In November 1990 the Super Nintendo Launched in Japan for 25,000 yen (210) US and in August 1991 it lauched in the US for $199 only 10 dollars less. Same with the N64 in 96. The original Game Boy costed more in america (89.99) than it did in Japan (5800 yen). The list goes on so get your facts straight before you go making false claims. I wouldnt say im whining about the price, I could care less about it as im not going to be buying a 3DS, im simply expressing my anger towards nintendo and their marketing schemes. My idea of the conversion price is alot more solid than your empty speculation. Everyone has agreed on 250 eh? Its gonna be a funny day when the lauch price is announced. Also you do know that there is going to be a redesign right? Its probly gonna cost less than this bulky one too. Please buy if you like :)

Because older facts have more relevance then newer ones (DS and Wii prices) :roll:

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Let's not forget Nintendo's declining profits will inevitably influence how 'generous' their overseas pricing will be. For the fiscal half between March and September 2010, Nintendo is predicted to have lost ¥2 billion yen ($23.9 million). Nintendo is currently in the red. Its products traditionally do stronger, of course, during the holiday season -- as all video game electronics do -- but now having missed the Christmas launch season, Nintendo is going to have to rely on Wii and DS sales instead. Wii sales could still be strong, but DS sales will almost certainly fall from 3DS anticipation.

Through the end of March, 2011, Nintendo expects an annual profit forecast of only 90 billion yen. That includes the 3DS launch! Even with the optimistic prediction that the 3DS will sell 4 million units by the end of the fiscal year, they predict profits less than half that of the April 2009-March 2010 fiscal year in which Nintendo turned a 228.6 billion yen profit.

"Investors were also disappointed by its decision to cut its profit forecasts for the year by more than half, with the company citing the strength of the yen as one of the factors.

Economists blame a high yen, standing Thursday morning around 83.55 to the dollar, for damaging Japan's fragile recovery and hurting exporters, whose products become relatively more expensive overseas."

Nintendo is in a bit of a bind here. The yen is strong, and pricing overseas products too low will cut significantly into profits.

Once again,

-April 2008-March 2009: 279 billion yen net profit.

-April 2009-March 2010: 228 billion yen net profit.

-April 2010-March 2011: 90 billion yen net profit (predicted).

This is not a trend Nintendo must like. Their profit margin is now down to levels not seen since the Gamecube era [link].

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Comparing the Japanese launch with the US launch, the Nintendo DS arrived with a very similar price at the time, around $150. There is nothing to indicate it wont be the same way this time around.

However many units the Mario factory can crank out before release day is how many they are going to sell, whether it sells for $200, $250, or $300 So from Nintendo's perspective, why not go for $300 and use price drops to spur even more sales in the coming years.

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You people need to stop saying its not going to be 300. You have ABSOLUTLEY NO FACTS that can tell you it isnt going to be 300. The only FACT is that its SELLING for 300 in japan. Thats all we have to work with, thats the ONLY thing that can be said. Say it as much as you want, I wish I could say the new Range Rover Evouqe I plan on purchasing will be 10 bucks but it doesnt matter how many times I say it, it wont be.

specialzed

No, 300 is the converson of yen to american money. If you look at how Nintendo has sold their past portable systems in Japan, you will find that none of them have ever been sold for the convertion price. (By that I mean we have never seen Nintendo sell something for likelets say 25000 yen, which when converted to american money is $300, in Japan and then find that in America it is selling for the convertion price) If I remember correctly, the Wii was sold for 25000 yen too when it first launched in Japan, and omg look! In America it was being sold for 249.99 at launch. Convertion Price sould never be trusted.

True, we have no facts (just facts about pricing on other Nintendo's products) but neither do you guys, you guys that are whining about the price, you have no facts either. Iwata never said "Hey sheep! The 3DS is going to cost 25000 yen, and since the price is going to be the same around the world (just converted to that areas money) it is going to be $300" No Im sorry he didnt say that. All Nintendo (he) said was: "Nintendo president Satoru Iwata confirmed that the 3DS will go on sale on February 26, 2011, in Japan for ¥25,000 ($299). The portable's US and European launch will follow a month later in March, but no price details were given by Nintendo for those regions, with the publisher saying these announcements would be made later by the company's overseas branches."Where do you see in there Nintendo saying that the Price will be $300 in America, where do you see anywhere in there of them saying that 3DS is going to have the same price everywhere? You see, they never said that. It has only been confirmed for Japan. Fact: Nintendo has like always sold their products for more over in Japan, None of Nintendo's products have ever costed the same (even with convertion of money) in all contries, Nintendo is not making you buy this beauty. If you dont want it, dont get it.

As for the rest of us who dont live in Japan and who have actually read all of the 3DS's articles carefully, we know as of now, the price has only been confirmed for Japan it is very unlikely (notice Im not saying it is not going to happen) that the 3DS is going to cost more than $250 in America at least (dont know about Europe of Austrialia).

In November 1990 the Super Nintendo Launched in Japan for 25,000 yen (210) US and in August 1991 it lauched in the US for $199 only 10 dollars less. Same with the N64 in 96. The original Game Boy costed more in america (89.99) than it did in Japan (5800 yen). The list goes on so get your facts straight before you go making false claims. I wouldnt say im whining about the price, I could care less about it as im not going to be buying a 3DS, im simply expressing my anger towards nintendo and their marketing schemes. My idea of the conversion price is alot more solid than your empty speculation. Everyone has agreed on 250 eh? Its gonna be a funny day when the lauch price is announced. Also you do know that there is going to be a redesign right? Its probly gonna cost less than this bulky one too. Please buy if you like :)

I was talking about newer facts, also that was back when there was little to no competition. AND that was back when we were not in an echonomic recession. and yes I will buy it and I believe the price is completely worth it, since it will have probably around like a 5-6 year life span, the money will be well worth it. And its not going to be a funny day, its going to be an amazing day. If you dont care about the 3DS and all you want to do is rant about Nintendo's market "schemes." ThenSystem Wars would be a better place for this Topic.

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If we don't buy it, and the sales aren't what nintendo wanted, then they will drop theprice.... However i am guessing that won't be an issue :P

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#34 menosdemon
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highly misinformed person ranting over something wrong? not sure if i should comment on this.BrunoBRS

i was just about to not comment on this too dammit!! thanks for ruining my day. and killing a rainforest. you monster..

oh. and on topic: oh.

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If we don't buy it, and the sales aren't what nintendo wanted, then they will drop theprice.... However i am guessing that won't be an issue :P

alexh_99
Exactly, dont you think nintendo should listen to the people that keep them in buisness and not punish them by raising the price and saying its their fault? I lost alot of respect for nintendo with that.
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[QUOTE="alexh_99"]

If we don't buy it, and the sales aren't what nintendo wanted, then they will drop theprice.... However i am guessing that won't be an issue :P

specialzed

Exactly, dont you think nintendo should listen to the people that keep them in buisness and not punish them by raising the price and saying its their fault? I lost alot of respect for nintendo with that.

actually. i'm a nintendo oa official from the console dept, and i have to disagree with that statement. recently, we've been getting a lot of messages telling us to eat poo. i certainly do not want to eat poo. poo is yucky, and it would probably make my breathe smell bad. i'm sorry that we lost some of your respect, but i'm much more glad that i'm not eating poo.

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Ill wait to see if Sony announces a PsP2. The 3DS will most likely it will cost $300-350 Here in Australia and a Xbox 360 Slim is $400. I dont see why it should cost that much when i could get something that has (so far) better quality games with a system that has way more features. Plus im hoping that the games dont cost more not that they are cheap here anyway..

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Ill wait to see if Sony announces a PsP2. The 3DS will most likely it will cost $300-350 Here in Australia and a Xbox 360 Slim is $400. I dont see why it should cost that much when i could get something that has (so far) better quality games with a system that has way more features. Plus im hoping that the games dont cost more not that they are cheap here anyway..

Blake135

ummm because the system is not quality (360's are the least reliable console ever), its not portable, and it doesnt have that many features. What good is playing music on it when you have a computer hooked up to a sweet stereo? The online is worse then a computers online gaming and it costs money. The 360 does not actually do that much. PS3 is better, but PC does the most. But anyway, this is a handheld with nice graphics, tons of features, 3D without glasses, and portability. if that doesnt suit you, then sure don't buy it.

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the thing will cost 230 euro, i dont find it ALOT for a hugely improving handheld. anything above the 230 euro is to much. Alot of psp owners etc that are hyped about this thing will just wait it a year or 2 out, until the playstation starts to announce anything.

Best way to go is hit 199 euro, but they really aint gona do that.

the 300 dollar = 22x euro, so it will be about 230 euro. which probaby results in 230 dollar or 250 dollar for americans. mostly the euro is 1 on 1 with the dollar if it comes on hardware.

I do think they will sell it for a high number, so that alot of people would turn off on it. Then on a later stage ( when for example psp 2 gets announced ) they will drop the price towards 199 dollar / euro. Atm there is no reason for them to lower the price. Because there is simple nobody around where they need to fight against. On price level.

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The wise guys over at Nintendo think they are pretty smart huh? What if the system doesnt sell?specialzed

And what if the sky was purple with yellow stripes?

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If the 3DS is priced at $250 or more, you can bet, barring any game changing price drop, it will sell far short of the amount the DS has sold. No matter what compelling software comes out for it.

Victory for the 3DS next generation is in no way guaranteed. New competitors can arise, or old competitors can sweep the rug out from under Nintendo by offering more content, good software, and at a cheaper price. If there was any gen Nintendo could not win decisively it would be this gen.

I expect the 3DS to sell well its first year, for a new platform. Its the years after, and with other platforms coming, that I'm waiting to see how it all shakes out.

Now, $200 or $220 might alleviate consumer concerns, but the 3DS is running the risk of being the same price, if not more, than all its competitors in the handheld gaming space.

The Core gamers will buy it, its the casuals Nintendo should be concerned about.

NaveedLife

200 or 220 would alleviate SOME? seriously what do you expect the price tag to be? The system does a lot, it is unique, and it is quite powerful for a handheld. People complain that the Wii doesnt have HD, a harddrive and awesome graphics, but then they (seemingly, you) come along and don't want a high price tag on it. Well pick one. I would rather have a $250 tag on the system and have it be a powerful handheld with many features, rather then be 150 and only slightly better then the DS.

What features? Low resolution screens, lack of multi-touch, lack of an apps store (other than 3dsware), lack of 3G, three pitiful VGA cameras that couldn't make out a persons face from more than 5 feet away ever, a limited amount of on board storage (yes SD fixes this) And honestly, its not the most powerful looking handheld. Sure its looking good but going by the leaked specs and screens it looks like a slightly suped up PSP, which it might honestly be hindered by the resolution. I mean, sure clock speeds and such don't account for everything but its looking a bit between Wii and PSP, which in actuality isn't the reason it looks as good as Wii is because its on a tiny screen?

It has music playback, 3D videos which we still don't know how they will be distrubited (GB Video anyone?), and cameras but those are cheap industry standards, there is no eBook reader which would attract the Brain Age market, among other things.

Look i'm loving it already I want it, but i don't for a second think its "feature" packed or incredibly powerful. There are more powerful devices for mobile gaming out there, but the gaming community doesn't want to support them and say they can be gaming portables in addition to what they really do best.

What I've been saying is the 3DS could be cheaper and still have everything thats in it

I highly doubt it costs more than $150 to make a unit, give or take $20 or so. So $200 or $230 would be a more reasonable price to me, charging a 20%-30% profit instead of what seems like a 50%-100% profit per unit.

I mean, Apple charges like 100%+ profit per unit, not Nintendo. (At launch that is, as costs go down of course they make more profit)

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Ill wait to see if Sony announces a PsP2. The 3DS will most likely it will cost $300-350 Here in Australia and a Xbox 360 Slim is $400. I dont see why it should cost that much when i could get something that has (so far) better quality games with a system that has way more features. Plus im hoping that the games dont cost more not that they are cheap here anyway..

Blake135

The psp2 will more than likely be out 3-6 months after 3ds, by fall 2011 so nintendo is going to have competition sooner than people think and maybe at a lower price point too. Remember Sony takes losses on their hardware. They could potentially make a $300 handheld and charge $200 for it.

Additionally, no matter how much I want a 3DS, i would never tell anyone to get it at launch over a system like the 360 if its another option in their price range, or any other platform. A older platform with more games and a wealth of current gen support is always a wiser choice, whereas You could just wait a few years and get a 3DS when the library is really really good.

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[QUOTE="specialzed"]The wise guys over at Nintendo think they are pretty smart huh? What if the system doesnt sell?dzimm

And what if the sky was purple with yellow stripes?

Why does everyone think its a guaranteed success? It isn't, it could very well lose next generation.

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#44 alexh_99
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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

[QUOTE="dzimm"]

The wise guys over at Nintendo think they are pretty smart huh? What if the system doesnt sell?specialzed

And what if the sky was purple with yellow stripes?

Why does everyone think its a guaranteed success? It isn't, it could very well lose next generation.

i don't get why people don't understand this. If the 3DS isn't a hit, Nintendo will drop the price.... as of right now they think it will be a hit, so the price is high. if their predictions are wrong, well that just means a price drop will come sooner.
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if we don't buy it we don't play it, LOL is expensive? yes, is it worht it? yeahhhhhhh mmm maybe its just me buy I have paid more for other stuff that dissapoints me, but I never owned a DS (but I have played it a lot) so for me its worth it just for BC and the new games
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#46 dzimm
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Why does everyone think its a guaranteed success?darth-pyschosis

Because the chances of the 3DS being a success are far more likely than it being a failure for a number of reasons. Yes, it could fail in theory, but it's all but certain that it won't.

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#47 Gamingclone
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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]Why does everyone think its a guaranteed success?dzimm

Because the chances of the 3DS being a success are far more likely than it being a failure for a number of reasons. Yes, it could fail in theory, but it's all but certain that it won't.

Nintendo will not let it fail, if there are signs (when the 3DS does come out) that it is not selling as predicted or not selling at all, they will either:

  • Cut the price by about $50
  • bundle it with the popular DS games and 3DS games
  • sell it with some software already on it

Really, Nintendo knows how to make their products sell.