What the Conduit Sequel Needs to be Awsome!

What do you think that the sequal to the Conduit needs to be an awsome game?

I know it was not that great, but most of the criticism came from the fact of how it is not unique (excluding Wii controls) and that there are other shooters elsewhere that do what the Conduit does and better (again excluding the controls).

Anything from gameplay changes, single player or multiplayer modifications, weapon count, characters, cinematics, etc.

Try to avoid saying things like "Nothing, becauses it doesn't need to exist."

Personally, I think that they need to take what story they have now and refine it so that it doesn't seem all that "this has been done before."

They also need to include changes into the gameplay adding what other shooters use today, like iron sights, sprinting, etc.

If the truly want to be the best in Wii FPS controls, all they need to do is to optimize thier Quantum engine to run at 60 fps instead of 30, this will make the controls as smooth as while still being much faster than Corruption's.

They also need to take a look at COD 4 multiplayer and use that as a basic for theirs. After playing MW2 multiplayer for a month then going back to the Conduit, the multiplayer just wasnt as fun. Needs the leveling up, perks, weapon selection, kill streaks, etc.

I hope for the best, but expect something just good enough to purchase, maybe.

Maybe instead of working on 3 games at once they should focus on one. then it will turn out better. The game was also WAYYY to linear

I'm not sure it can be better because the same people are working on it

That group had a chance to make anything and they made the Conduit, now they have even less to work with (because they have to follow what happened in the first game) so I think we'll actually see a drop in quality when it comes to the second one.

If it was a larger studio then anything can happen. They gave the first game to Frank and Frank messed up so for the next game they give the game to Steve and maybe Steve can make a great follow up

Instead Frank messed the first game up and Frank is in charge of the second one too, doesn't make anyone that optimistic

I'm not sure it can be better because the same people are working on it

That group had a chance to make anything and they made the Conduit, now they have even less to work with (because they have to follow what happened in the first game) so I think we'll actually see a drop in quality when it comes to the second one.

If it was a larger studio then anything can happen. They gave the first game to Frank and Frank messed up so for the next game they give the game to Steve and maybe Steve can make a great follow up

Instead Frank messed the first game up and Frank is in charge of the second one too, doesn't make anyone that optimistic

Jaysonguy

Well one way to make the game better i think is to put more effort into the ones that people actually want to be good games.

I think that Gladiator AD needs to be canceled, and all other games that they may be working on and only work on the Grinder and the Conduit 2.

I think part of the problem is the amount of games that single developer is working on. Look at Retro Studios, the only games they worked on where the 2 prime games, over about a decade of time.

Think about it this way, Resident Evil sucked bad until RE4 came out, and sucked again with RE5.

In turn, Capcom made 3 bad games and so people would expect the same of RE4 like you do Conduit 2. However, we all know how RE4 turned out, to be a fantastic game.

Since the controls are done and the game engine is mostly done, they need to improve multiplayer and try to make the story better.

I want them to take their time with the game. I want them to devote 3-4 years of development time, the average for most AAA games.

A lot!

Brand new story, characters, art style, enemies, ect.

Support for patches and updates.

some Cutscenes at least for some character development.

It needs to not be a generic FPS, it needs to not be filled with glitches, and it needs to be developed by someone else.

I'm not sure it can be better because the same people are working on it

That group had a chance to make anything and they made the Conduit, now they have even less to work with (because they have to follow what happened in the first game) so I think we'll actually see a drop in quality when it comes to the second one.

If it was a larger studio then anything can happen. They gave the first game to Frank and Frank messed up so for the next game they give the game to Steve and maybe Steve can make a great follow up

Instead Frank messed the first game up and Frank is in charge of the second one too, doesn't make anyone that optimistic

I don't even care about story improvements. I want additions and improvements to online multiplayer:

• More maps/weapons
• Less glitches (test the game better)
• Better experience system
• I wouldn't mind some form of vehicle to add to the battling
• More game modes
• More character models

I could probably think up a few more things, but I can't be bothered because the sequel probably won't deliver. I've gotten over 300 hours in on The Conduit and I don't regret it, but I don't think the game has much chance of getting a good sequel. And unless the sequel gets good reviews I probably won't get it because I'm getting another console for Christmas that I can play FPS on.

I'm not sure it can be better because the same people are working on it

That group had a chance to make anything and they made the Conduit, now they have even less to work with (because they have to follow what happened in the first game) so I think we'll actually see a drop in quality when it comes to the second one.

If it was a larger studio then anything can happen. They gave the first game to Frank and Frank messed up so for the next game they give the game to Steve and maybe Steve can make a great follow up

Instead Frank messed the first game up and Frank is in charge of the second one too, doesn't make anyone that optimistic

Jaysonguy

Actually since they already have the engine made and the gameplay mastered they can have more time and money set aside for story development and art design.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I'm not sure it can be better because the same people are working on it

That group had a chance to make anything and they made the Conduit, now they have even less to work with (because they have to follow what happened in the first game) so I think we'll actually see a drop in quality when it comes to the second one.

If it was a larger studio then anything can happen. They gave the first game to Frank and Frank messed up so for the next game they give the game to Steve and maybe Steve can make a great follow up

Instead Frank messed the first game up and Frank is in charge of the second one too, doesn't make anyone that optimistic

Ospov

Actually since they already have the engine made and the gameplay mastered they can have more time and money set aside for story development and art design.

I'm not sure it can be better because the same people are working on itJaysonguy

Get more talanted people.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I'm not sure it can be better because the same people are working on itthunderf00t

Maybe instead of working on 3 games at once they should focus on one. then it will turn out better. The game was also WAYYY to linear

painguy1

this is exactly what i was thinking

they always have to many projects going on at the same time

thats why the games arent good

How is the conduit feel like droping mw2 to play the wii for a little, does the conduit offer the same awesome controls as waw on the wii? anf same gameplay with a futuristic twist? how does it stake up against waw wii verison?Javieralijandro

....what?

not called the Conduit maybe something like the Grinder?

[QUOTE="Javieralijandro"]How is the conduit feel like droping mw2 to play the wii for a little, does the conduit offer the same awesome controls as waw on the wii? anf same gameplay with a futuristic twist? how does it stake up against waw wii verison?Darth-Samus

....what?

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I'm not sure it can be better because the same people are working on itbob_newman

"Despite the success of the original Devil May Cry, the sequel was not created by Hideki Kamiya or Capcom Production Studio 4. The first notice Kamiya's team was given about any sort of sequel occurred during localization of Devil May Cry in North America and Europe, a move which greatly surprised Kamiya. Since the game's release, Kamiya has expressed disappointment that he was not called on by his superiors at Capcom to direct Devil May Cry 2.[28] Instead, the sequel was granted to Capcom Production Studio 1 and Hideaki Itsuno, the team responsible for Capcom VS SNK 2.

According to producer Tsuyoshi Tanaka, the thrust of the design was to make Devil May Cry 2 bigger than its predecessor; Tanaka estimated that the game's environments were approximately nine times as large as the first.[3] The emphasis on puzzles was also downplayed, with the camera system revamped to allow for better action scenes. Changes from the first game were influenced by surveys distributed by the development team, allowing them to patch any areas identified as weak by the people surveyed. The addition of Lucia as a playable character was a response to player complaints that Trish was not playable in the first Devil May Cry."

Capcom Production Studio 1 then went on from that steaming pile to develop DMC3, one of if not the greatest action games ever made. My example stands.

Yeah after thinking about it, maybe they should put all other games on hold including Conduit 2, cancel Gladiator AD, and focus the team's full effort on the Grinder, which will hit store shelves in 2010.

some Cutscenes at least for some character development.

LegatoSkyheart

No cutscenes, please. Cutscenes are utterly pointless. I despise cutscenes that can't be immediately skipped without ever viewing them.

It needs to not be a generic FPS, it needs to not be filled with glitches, and it needs to be developed by someone else.

bob_newman

That a sequel to a horrible game made by a horrible developer would be good, is very unlikely.

My only major gripes with The Conduit are that it's not long enough and the difficulty is a little inconsistent here and there. I'd like to see more weaponry, too. Make the sequel with about 20 levels, more consistent difficulty, and more weapons, and it'll be great.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

some Cutscenes at least for some character development.

dkrustyklown

No cutscenes, please. Cutscenes are utterly pointless. I despise cutscenes that can't be immediately skipped without ever viewing them.

You despise Ocarina of Time? Wow :shock:

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

some Cutscenes at least for some character development.

dkrustyklown

No cutscenes, please. Cutscenes are utterly pointless. I despise cutscenes that can't be immediately skipped without ever viewing them.

Wait, so you despise all games that have a story?

Doesn't that really limit your options when it comes to games?

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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

some Cutscenes at least for some character development.

Jaysonguy

No cutscenes, please. Cutscenes are utterly pointless. I despise cutscenes that can't be immediately skipped without ever viewing them.

Wait, so you despise all games that have a story?

Doesn't that really limit your options when it comes to games?

Not all games with a story have cutscenes, look at Left 4 Dead 2.

[QUOTE="dkrustyklown"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

some Cutscenes at least for some character development.

Jaysonguy

No cutscenes, please. Cutscenes are utterly pointless. I despise cutscenes that can't be immediately skipped without ever viewing them.

Wait, so you despise all games that have a story?

Doesn't that really limit your options when it comes to games?

You despise Ocarina of Time? Wow :shock:

kenakuma

I didn't say that I despise games with cutscenes that can't be skipped. I said that I hate cutscenes that can't be skipped. There is a difference, you know.

I loved Ocarina of Time, but I did hate the cutscenes. I spend the whole duration of the cutscene staring down at my controller furiously smashing the A button in the futile hope that I can get back to the action more quickly.

Cutscenes don't bother me as much if you can just skip them. I play games to, well...play games. I don't play games to watch a movie. If I want a movie, then I will...well...watch a movie.

no metal gear 4(or 3) , for you!intro94

Yep, that game doesn't appeal to me in the slightest way.

Open, not extremely linear levels, better AI, local multiplayer and how about explaining the story a bit more?

My example stands.

thunderf00t

No it doesn't. That team made good games before they made DMC2. The team at HVS has never made a good game on their own.

So no your example doesn't stand.

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You despise Ocarina of Time? Wow :shock:

dkrustyklown

I didn't say that I despise games with cutscenes that can't be skipped. I said that I hate cutscenes that can't be skipped. There is a difference, you know.

I loved Ocarina of Time, but I did hate the cutscenes. I spend the whole duration of the cutscene staring down at my controller furiously smashing the A button in the futile hope that I can get back to the action more quickly.

Cutscenes don't bother me as much if you can just skip them. I play games to, well...play games. I don't play games to watch a movie. If I want a movie, then I will...well...watch a movie.

No character development for you then. The Conduit Could have had a better storyline by the words Mr. Ford saying "I'm probably the only one left that knows the truth."

Well if there were others that knew the truth they could have added at least 2 or 3 other people that knew the Trust's true intentions and helped Ford along with Promithius and died along the way to Adams and have Mr. Ford be the last guy at the end (like they did in the final mission of the game).

That would have made the Game REALLY enjoyable.

but no they slapped a story together and said "LOOK WE HAVE MULTIPLAYER!!!!"

Get more talanted people.

goblaa

I couldn't have said it better.

[QUOTE="thunderf00t"]

My example stands.

No it doesn't. That team made good games before they made DMC2. The team at HVS has never made a good game on their own.

So no your example doesn't stand.

kick Nintendo arse and make voice chat open for public matches and not just against friends. gamefan67

Will never happen.

[QUOTE="bob_newman"]

It needs to not be a generic FPS, it needs to not be filled with glitches, and it needs to be developed by someone else.

That a sequel to a horrible game made by a horrible developer would be good, is very unlikely.

[QUOTE="Litchie"]

[QUOTE="bob_newman"]

It needs to not be a generic FPS, it needs to not be filled with glitches, and it needs to be developed by someone else.

Pices

That a sequel to a horrible game made by a horrible developer would be good, is very unlikely.

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="Litchie"] This.

That a sequel to a horrible game made by a horrible developer would be good, is very unlikely.

What do you think that the sequal to the Conduit needs to be an awsome game?

I know it was not that great, but most of the criticism came from the fact of how it is not unique (excluding Wii controls) and that there are other shooters elsewhere that do what the Conduit does and better (again excluding the controls).

Anything from gameplay changes, single player or multiplayer modifications, weapon count, characters, cinematics, etc.

Try to avoid saying things like "Nothing, becauses it doesn't need to exist."

Personally, I think that they need to take what story they have now and refine it so that it doesn't seem all that "this has been done before."

They also need to include changes into the gameplay adding what other shooters use today, like iron sights, sprinting, etc.

If the truly want to be the best in Wii FPS controls, all they need to do is to optimize thier Quantum engine to run at 60 fps instead of 30, this will make the controls as smooth as while still being much faster than Corruption's.

They also need to take a look at COD 4 multiplayer and use that as a basic for theirs. After playing MW2 multiplayer for a month then going back to the Conduit, the multiplayer just wasnt as fun. Needs the leveling up, perks, weapon selection, kill streaks, etc.

I hope for the best, but expect something just good enough to purchase, maybe.