What's a Hardcore game?

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#1 NullCelot
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many people say it, but when i ask what it is, i get different answers. but to tell you, I hear the word, hardcore more than they say it in the ex-bock three sixty forum :).

so, id rather hear the majority of people tell me than just one person

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#2 klidron02
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What is considered to be a "hardcore" game is a game that is very hard and long, and is usually aimed at an adult audience. I myself do not believe in "hardcore" games, I believe that all games are casual, and if you play them nonstop, you aren't a "hardcore" gamer, you're just a nerd with no life.
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#3 NullCelot
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What is considered to be a "hardcore" game is a game that is very hard and long, and is usually aimed at an adult audience. I myself do not believe in "hardcore" games, I believe that all games are casual, and if you play them nonstop, you aren't a "hardcore" gamer, you're just a nerd with no life.klidron02

well said.

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#4 Jaysonguy
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No such thing as a hardcore game

There's hardcore gamers but that's where it ends

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#5 AjaxNeron
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A really long, hard, lots of unlockables game.

Or, a game that you enjoy. :)

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

No such thing as a hardcore game

There's hardcore gamers but that's where it ends

People don't even know what that is anymore.
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#7 SirSpudly
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No such thing as a hardcore game

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#8 webbut
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hardcore describes a player not the game....i game for the core gaming audience is time consuming and isnt relatively easy to pick up and play for a person who isnt experinced in the type of game it is
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#9 link027
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No such thing as a hardcore game

There's hardcore gamers but that's where it ends

Jaysonguy
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#10 Okami_Link
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I really have no idea. People should stop making up words. And also should stop writing things like "teh gmerz ownz" cause it makes harder to understand what you guys are saying here :P
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Hardcore games and gamers DO EXIST. It's a way of distinguishing between "casual" party-game and weak games like Wii Party/Sports and harder, longer and more involved games like Gears of War/Metal Gear Solid. There's "core/hardcore" audiences for EVERY entertainment form. You have them for books, TV, DVDs, theatre, etc. Hardcore games exist.
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#12 webbut
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Hardcore games and gamers DO EXIST. It's a way of distinguishing between "casual" party-game and weak games like Wii Party/Sports and harder, longer and more involved games like Gears of War/Metal Gear Solid. There's "core/hardcore" audiences for EVERY entertainment form. You have them for books, TV, DVDs, theatre, etc. Hardcore games exist.Quintinius

theres the core hardcore and causal audiences for every entertainment medium but the games are only core or casual there is no hardcore game. There are games with depth that are ment for people who are already familar with games and there are games that are ment for people to just pick up and play. A player who tries to master any game is a hardcore player of that game no matter what the game is. You could try to master tennis in Wiisports or tetris or Halo or WoW or Animal Crossing. If you devote lots of time trying to understand the workings of a game and use that to make you better you are a hardcore player of that game. Pokemon is a casual game anyone can pick it up easy walk around and battle pokemon but then theres people who go and learn the entire workings of the game and play like a pro. They are hardcore gamers but pokemon isnt a hardcore game

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#13 santanablu3
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No such thing as a hardcore game

There's hardcore gamers but that's where it ends

Jaysonguy
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#14 funsohng
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hardcore game is a game that is hardcore, which i have no idea what it means

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theres no such thing ,, your gonna hear it from fans, of im not saying,

but in reality, the real meaning of hardcore i know of is like an addiction ,

example

a person who is a casual smoker smokes less often then

a hardcore smoker who can' t or doesnt know when to stop ,

the later will hurt in the long run

in a gaming sense theres no such thing lol, games are made differently for a reason ,,

remember back in the 1980s theres was a video game crash much like a depression but only affecting the gaming industry due

to atari among others releasing pac man after pac man after pacman the same basic gameplay no other type,

they can yell wiis not for gamers all they want, but in the end wii is helping this industry just like ps2 and ps1 were last 2 gens,

it evolved gaming in a certain specail way,

and dont say there isnt a mature game on wii because theres alot more on wii then gc and n64 combined

-they are

far cry

red steel

splintercell da

driver paralel lines

manhunt2

no more heroes

call of duty3/5

quantum of solace 007

house of the dead2/3

ghost squad

target terror

the godfather

metroid prime 3

zelda twilight princess

bully se

and theres many e rated games that are for every one not just for kids,

super mario galaxy

wii sports

madden nfl

nba live

mariokart wii

need for speed series

crusin

indianapolis 500 legends

excite truck

classic british motor racing

dr mario online rx

and many more,

so what if theres party games, there was party games on ps2 ps1 no one ever complained then

these games serve a purpose, get mad all you want, its not gonna stop sony or nintendo or microsoft from doing whats best that is try the best to offer a variety of games i so like ,,, i own 5 consoles this gen , ds psp wii ps3 360 ,,

and all 5 of them have their goods and bads,

i couldnt care less if they had this party game or that monopoly i could care less,

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#16 kenakuma
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No such thing as a hardcore game

There's hardcore gamers but that's where it ends

Jaysonguy

True, any game can be played either casualy or "hardcore". How the game is played is determined by the player, hence there is "No such thing as a hardcore game" however "There's hardcore gamers".

NOW there ARE games TARGETED at hardcore gamers (as their are games targeted at casual gamers) and I guess you could consider those games hardcore in relation to their central audience!

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theres no such thing ,, your gonna hear it from fans, of im not saying,

but in reality, the real meaning of hardcore i know of is like an addiction ,

example

a person who is a casual smoker smokes less often then

a hardcore smoker who can' t or doesnt know when to stop ,

the later will hurt in the long run

in a gaming sense theres no such thing lol, games are made differently for a reason ,,

remember back in the 1980s theres was a video game crash much like a depression but only affecting the gaming industry due

to atari among others releasing pac man after pac man after pacman the same basic gameplay no other type,

they can yell wiis not for gamers all they want, but in the end wii is helping this industry just like ps2 and ps1 were last 2 gens,

it evolved gaming in a certain specail way,

and dont say there isnt a mature game on wii because theres alot more on wii then gc and n64 combined

-they are

far cry

red steel

splintercell da

driver paralel lines

manhunt2

no more heroes

call of duty3/5

quantum of solace 007

house of the dead2/3

ghost squad

target terror

the godfather

metroid prime 3

zelda twilight princess

bully se

and theres many e rated games that are for every one not just for kids,

super mario galaxy

wii sports

madden nfl

nba live

mariokart wii

need for speed series

crusin

indianapolis 500 legends

excite truck

classic british motor racing

dr mario online rx

and many more,

so what if theres party games, there was party games on ps2 ps1 no one ever complained then

these games serve a purpose, get mad all you want, its not gonna stop sony or nintendo or microsoft from doing whats best that is try the best to offer a variety of games i so like ,,, i own 5 consoles this gen , ds psp wii ps3 360 ,,

and all 5 of them have their goods and bads,

i couldnt care less if they had this party game or that monopoly i could care less,

mariokart64fan
i love you :shock:
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#18 NullCelot
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

No such thing as a hardcore game

There's hardcore gamers but that's where it ends

kenakuma

True, any game can be played either casualy or "hardcore". How the game is played is determined by the player, hence there is "No such thing as a hardcore game" however "There's hardcore gamers".

NOW there ARE games TARGETED at hardcore gamers (as their are games targeted at casual gamers) and I guess you could consider those games hardcore in relation to their central audience!

Thats the most educated answer ever

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It's a buzz word. That's all it is. Nothing new. They come and go.
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#20 OniStrat
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In my opinion, there are no 'hardcore' games, but there are games that are meant for gamers. People tend to call these games 'hardcore games', although any game can be played in the hardcore way. Tetris is actually pretty hardcore. There are also games that are meant for casuals, that we refer to as 'casual games'.

It's actually pretty simple.

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#21 SSBFan12
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[QUOTE="NullCelot"]

many people say it, but when i ask what it is, i get different answers. but to tell you, I hear the word, hardcore more than they say it in the ex-bock three sixty forum :).

so, id rather hear the majority of people tell me than just one person

Those are none of the right answers.
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#22 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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People define themselves to be special. Hardcore gamers define themselves because they want to feel they are the true gamers, the only ones who can "pwn", use dual analog controllers and play online. Let them have theirmoniker. Let the rest of us enjoy any kind of game we like.
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A game that sucks a significant amount of life out of it's player. How it does that depends on how it's played.
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#24 kenakuma
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[QUOTE="kenakuma"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

No such thing as a hardcore game

There's hardcore gamers but that's where it ends

NullCelot

True, any game can be played either casualy or "hardcore". How the game is played is determined by the player, hence there is "No such thing as a hardcore game" however "There's hardcore gamers".

NOW there ARE games TARGETED at hardcore gamers (as their are games targeted at casual gamers) and I guess you could consider those games hardcore in relation to their central audience!

Thats the most educated answer ever

My brain is working a little better than usual due to school kicking in again :) , also I was going off of Jason's post so that helped!

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Anything made by Treasure Co. Ltd.
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#26 hobonamdjojo
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In my opinion, there are no 'hardcore' games, but there are games that are meant for gamers. People tend to call these games 'hardcore games', although any game can be played in the hardcore way. Tetris is actually pretty hardcore. There are also games that are meant for casuals, that we refer to as 'casual games'.

It's actually pretty simple.

OniStrat

Agree 100%.

They are games that target gamers with more expierence. In this way, I dont think rateings like E , M, T, etc. really take effect. Its just an analisis of game content.

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[QUOTE="Quintinius"]Hardcore games and gamers DO EXIST. It's a way of distinguishing between "casual" party-game and weak games like Wii Party/Sports and harder, longer and more involved games like Gears of War/Metal Gear Solid. There's "core/hardcore" audiences for EVERY entertainment form. You have them for books, TV, DVDs, theatre, etc. Hardcore games exist.

I was going to say more or less of the same thing. Well said Quintinius.
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#28 Devil-Itachi
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Jaysonguy summed it up well.
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No such thing as a hardcore game

There's hardcore gamers but that's where it ends

Jaysonguy
^this
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What is considered to be a "hardcore" game is a game that is very hard and long, and is usually aimed at an adult audience. I myself do not believe in "hardcore" games, I believe that all games are casual, and if you play them nonstop, you aren't a "hardcore" gamer, you're just a nerd with no life.klidron02

Well said. I really like this. The term "hardcore gamer" is made up by the gaming community to make people with unhealthy videogame habits feel good about themselves. I mean, obviously I play a lot of videogames, and I go out of my way to come to places like gamespot and discuss videogames and find out videogame news, but I wouldn't consider myself a hardcore gamer. And I really don't think that there is a such thing as a hardcore game. I think the term "casual" has evolved from meaning "easily excessable" into "grandma can get in on the fun". And hardcore has evolved from meaning "a compelling and challenging game" into "bloody violence". Its really a shame. I almost can't stand to go to these forums anymore.

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[QUOTE="Quintinius"]Hardcore games and gamers DO EXIST. It's a way of distinguishing between "casual" party-game and weak games like Wii Party/Sports and harder, longer and more involved games like Gears of War/Metal Gear Solid. There's "core/hardcore" audiences for EVERY entertainment form. You have them for books, TV, DVDs, theatre, etc. Hardcore games exist.king23_
I was going to say more or less of the same thing. Well said Quintinius.

Interesting point. This is a pretty good thread, I must admit

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#32 SMR-Venom
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lol "Hardcore". No such thing as hardcore...
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#33 black_ice23
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No such thing as a hardcore game

There's hardcore gamers but that's where it ends

Jaysonguy
agree hardcore game is just a term used by elitist gamers to make themselves feel better that anyone can join in with them so to make themselves feel superior they brand there games as such how is gaming going be considered an art form or medium along the likes of movies,books, and music if such gamers have this attitude to exclude all of the new people i dont see people who watch movies excluding others because they never watched a movie before? or music lovers, book lovers if we want this industry to grow we have to be accepting of all people or else well will be confined to the niche and still seen as kids or adults living in the parents basements, we have to expand but yeah Jaysonguy couldnt have said it any better
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#34 JordanElek
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

No such thing as a hardcore game

There's hardcore gamers but that's where it ends

kenakuma

True, any game can be played either casualy or "hardcore". How the game is played is determined by the player, hence there is "No such thing as a hardcore game" however "There's hardcore gamers".

NOW there ARE games TARGETED at hardcore gamers (as their are games targeted at casual gamers) and I guess you could consider those games hardcore in relation to their central audience!

This is the perfect answer. Break up the word into its root words, and it makes sense for gamers but not for games - hard and core. It refers to the solid, dense, inner part of something. The hard core. It's pretty easy to place gamers in that category, but how would we ever figure out which games are part of the dense inner core of gaming?
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#35 axem_metal
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'Hardcore', huh? A game that's fun to play and feels worth the time playing it. Now that's pretty hardcore, since there's not many games out there that fit the description.
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A game 16 yr olds name as hardcore to make themselves feel better about playing it.
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

No such thing as a hardcore game

There's hardcore gamers but that's where it ends

kenakuma

True, any game can be played either casualy or "hardcore". How the game is played is determined by the player, hence there is "No such thing as a hardcore game" however "There's hardcore gamers".

NOW there ARE games TARGETED at hardcore gamers (as their are games targeted at casual gamers) and I guess you could consider those games hardcore in relation to their central audience!

true.
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#38 axem_metal
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

No such thing as a hardcore game

There's hardcore gamers but that's where it ends

kenakuma

True, any game can be played either casualy or "hardcore". How the game is played is determined by the player, hence there is "No such thing as a hardcore game" however "There's hardcore gamers".

NOW there ARE games TARGETED at hardcore gamers (as their are games targeted at casual gamers) and I guess you could consider those games hardcore in relation to their central audience!

Brawl is both overly casual and extremely competitive. It depends on the gamer's playstyle, but some games have a bit of a 'hardcore' factor. However, I do agree for the most part.
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No such thing as a hardcore game

There's hardcore gamers but that's where it ends

Jaysonguy
What i think.
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#41 haziqonfire
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No such thing. Example, a game like GTAIV could be considered 'hardcore' by most, but then again it sells so well because it has mass casual appeal. Its all down to the gamer and what they think.
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#42 XDXDXDXDXDXDXD
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There are no hardcore games.
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Hardcore games and gamers DO EXIST. It's a way of distinguishing between "casual" party-game and weak games like Wii Party/Sports and harder, longer and more involved games like Gears of War/Metal Gear Solid. There's "core/hardcore" audiences for EVERY entertainment form. You have them for books, TV, DVDs, theatre, etc. Hardcore games exist.Quintinius

So for you a hardcore game must be a shooter. How about a Mario platformer like Super Mario Galaxy. For me, it's a "hardcore" game. How about Tales of Symphonia. For me, it's a "hardcore" game.

For me, there's no hardcore games. Wii Party and Sports are on the same category as Gears of War and Metal Gear Solid. They are all video games.