Are they doing this FC junk because of chatting? I'll be happy if they renounce every idea they were thinking of for any kind of online communication, if they remove friend codes. What's so dangerous about a 6 year old, beating a pedophile at SSBB when they dont know when they can't talk to each other?
This child and pedophile things are really getting out of hand... not every single person who plays SSBB is a pedophile. P.S. I was going to use a comparison of a little kid and GS users, except i found that rather contradictory to what i was saying.
People. Nintendo just cant do away with their current system, and they dont plan to. And even if they did, their whole system runs with this friend code basis. The way it connects to the internet itself is on this basis. It isnt about pedophiles, as no pedophile is going to spend time going on SSBB to get close to kids. Thats stupid. Its obvious this system is in place because they are providing free service for their internet, and cant run it like the Xbox Live.Â
PS3 has theirs free, but for the most part, it is still unanswered on how Sony is going to keep that service free.
True, Nintendo has the PS3 on the run with their sales and its closing in on the 360... But let's get serious here, bad online = flop. If the Wii24 connect infastructure is crap (And it might be because of the friend codes) then overall the system will not be able to last.
People worry too much about the friend code system. It's worked beautifully for me so far. Here's an idea...make some REAL friends, huh? Seriously....Few people remember that you used to actually have to have your friends physically in your room to play games together....I actually liked it better back then ;)
True, Nintendo has the PS3 on the run with their sales and its closing in on the 360... But let's get serious here, bad online = flop. If the Wii24 connect infastructure is crap (And it might be because of the friend codes) then overall the system will not be able to last. imaspin17
Obviously the online isnt a factor here. After the hype has passed people are still fighting to get Wii's each weekend, and there is little Online connectivity at the moment. I think once games are created with online capabilities they will work fine. Its not XBL but dont even compare it to XBL. Nintendo builds their systems around local gaming, Microsoft builds their systems around Online gaming. Hence the Xbox Live Service. When you separate the two into their own arenas, the Wii's system works well.
[QUOTE="h0wtehnub"]This child and pedophile things are really getting out of hand... not every single person who plays SSBB is a pedophile. P.S. I was going to use a comparison of a little kid and GS users, except i found that rather contradictory to what i was saying. Is that a big stereotype going on these days?
[QUOTE="imaspin17"]True, Nintendo has the PS3 on the run with their sales and its closing in on the 360... But let's get serious here, bad online = flop. If the Wii24 connect infastructure is crap (And it might be because of the friend codes) then overall the system will not be able to last. hiho24
Obviously the online isnt a factor here. After the hype has passed people are still fighting to get Wii's each weekend, and there is little Online connectivity at the moment. I think once games are created with online capabilities they will work fine. Its not XBL but dont even compare it to XBL. Nintendo builds their systems around local gaming, Microsoft builds their systems around Online gaming. Hence the Xbox Live Service. When you separate the two into their own arenas, the Wii's system works well. True, although I was hoping for something of XBL calibur, the fact that Nintendo is offering their 24connect for free follows their type of business plan. But I do believe that some kind of working online infastructure is vital this generation to have a lasting appeal. The Wii is still selling like hotcakes and I predict that it still will be come another 3-5 months. But what about after a year or two. By then I think that most of the excitement brought on by the motion controller will have warn off and the two main things that will keep the system selling by this point is Good third party support and a thriving online community.
[QUOTE="camzaman"]What's the problem - there's one code per system, not per game. How is that inconvenient you babies?camzaman
I hereby QFT myself, awaiting a response... Umm yes there is a problem since Pokemon has a code per game it doesnt use the Wii code. But no i have no problems with friend codes and i have Xbox Live so it'll be different....
[QUOTE="camzaman"]What's the problem - there's one code per system, not per game. How is that inconvenient you babies?camzaman
I hereby QFT myself, awaiting a response... Wrong, it's confirmed. The Wii code is primarily for sharing your miis and sending messages. Each game will have it's own friend codes.
[QUOTE="camzaman"][QUOTE="camzaman"]What's the problem - there's one code per system, not per game. How is that inconvenient you babies?eyewho
I hereby QFT myself, awaiting a response... Wrong, it's confirmed. The Wii code is primarily for sharing your miis and sending messages. Each game will have it's own friend codes. REALLY!?! Link please.
If there are dangerous people playing online games, that is too many. Whether it be 1 or 1,000,000, it's still a problem. Risks can't be taken to benifit the few. Still I think Nintendo could have tackled the situation differently. More in the XBOX Live service.
Its the child pedophile thing. But seriously, how would a 6 year old know how to set up wifi? I have a few ignorant friends who can't even pronounce it(wee fee!).
People worry too much about the friend code system. It's worked beautifully for me so far. Here's an idea...make some REAL friends, huh? Seriously....Few people remember that you used to actually have to have your friends physically in your room to play games together....I actually liked it better back then ;) Staryoshi87
That was brilliant. Staryoshi87 wins this topic and the Internet.
What's the problem - there's one code per system, not per game. How is that inconvenient you babies?camzaman
Think of it like this. Most guys are dogs and want one night stands. They don't want to commit to long term relationships. Same thing applies to gamers. They want to play someone they dont know each time, instead of playing the same old people, like the system codes are making them do. not a very good comparison, but hey... i really dont care.
i dont really get this topic. online for wii will be exactly what u say it is. its not like if u dont have a freind code u cant play at all, u get randomly matched up just like in Halo or MK:DS. the only benefit freind codes give is the ability to see where youre freind is playing and maybe even mesage them. online is going to be just like halo 2 on LIVE, except u cant ask stargers to be ur friend...i can live with that...honestly, im not going to die if i cant get friends i dont even know....
People worry too much about the friend code system. It's worked beautifully for me so far. Here's an idea...make some REAL friends, huh? Seriously....Few people remember that you used to actually have to have your friends physically in your room to play games together....I actually liked it better back then ;) Staryoshi87
Dude. i can only have my friends over on the weekends. Half of the time I'm grounded.(what do you suggest i do when my parents our out on the weekend while i'm grounded and have nothing to do) When i come home from school and finish my homework, i play video games, and playing by myself all the time is boring. so on the week, that's were online comes in. and plus i can also only play the PS2 with them because i only have one wii controller.
Online is obviously going to be garbage. If it was going to be on the wii then it would have been ready for the wii to increase profitbefore it was released. Plus, if you become depressed because a game does not have online that just shows there is no depth to your life and you live in the shadows.Â
[QUOTE="camzaman"][QUOTE="camzaman"]What's the problem - there's one code per system, not per game. How is that inconvenient you babies?eyewho
I hereby QFT myself, awaiting a response... Wrong, it's confirmed. The Wii code is primarily for sharing your miis and sending messages. Each game will have it's own friend codes.
No it hasn't been confirmed IGN has guessed it because of the way Pokemon was done. Pokemon was done that way because the game was done before the online network plan was finalized. If they had codes per game there would be no delay.
An EA spokesperson was interviewed not even two weeks ago on G4 and said their online would work with the console codes themselves.
Really to tell you the truth, I don't even talk to people on AIM that I don't know, and my Profile and online status remains hidden on AIM unless that perosn has my SN and I have their SN, so I don't really care to much that Nintendo decided to make it manditory because it is a little more that just Child preditors, there is spam, and hacking as well that goes in to a open internet. Now later on they can make a online channel (which they will probably do) that may have the option of playing strangers, or just frineds over the network. Right now any game that supports online on the Wii is just P2P, but later on with the addition of a online dedicated channel, they can give the player more options as to who they want to play and if they want their Wii on a open network or a FC network only.
All these people saying that the online will be the fall of the Wii are the same people that said the graphics would kill it. It seems that these people are wrong, because even with the Xbox360 getting a 1 year head start, the Wii has sold about half the number in 3 months. Same thing with the DS and the PSP, which btw is pissing me off cause I can't find a DS lite or Wii controller within 200 miles.
If you guys really think that the Friend Code system was built to block predators, you are very wrong.
The system has already been by-passed. What is going to stop a predator from going to a 3rd party site? Nintendo has no control over it especially those sites that come with a fully functional chat room.
The Friend Code system is really nothing but a stop-gap solution to by them time to build a real online system.
If you guys really think that the Friend Code system was built to block predators, you are very wrong.
The system has already been by-passed. What is going to stop a predator from going to a 3rd party site? Nintendo has no control over it especially those sites that come with a fully functional chat room.
The Friend Code system is really nothing but a stop-gap solution to by them time to build a real online system. DarkMagik9
I really dont think so. I think they plan to keep Friend Codes.
Once there are games with online play enabled, there will probably be lounges where players meet before playing the game and that gives players on the Wii a chance to meet and greet and become friends. As of now there is no Nintendo based way of making friends on the Wii, except for the www.
Yeah I don't know why people are getting all fussy. You'll just be put into rooms with random people when ever you play. If you come across some one you like, swap codes. If chat is disabled, then you'll just have to build a community from internet forums like this one. Sure it could be easier, but it's not a serious problem.
People worry too much about the friend code system. It's worked beautifully for me so far. Here's an idea...make some REAL friends, huh? Seriously....Few people remember that you used to actually have to have your friends physically in your room to play games together....I actually liked it better back then ;) Staryoshi87
yeah you were able to get in someones face back then, now you get CAPPED if u act like a n00b. roflmao
you know, if a kid gets raped from a online game, because they sit there talking on a mic for a couple of hours and meet somewhere... it is 100% NOT nintendo's fault... u know if i hear and old dude say, "hey little boy, want to meet at the park" i'm not going to say "sure" kids these days
I don't know what everyone's problem is with friend codes. They don't keep you from playing the game. Playing online is no different than any other service. You log on and you get randomly matched up with people. That's no different than any other service I've used. If you want to play with a certain person you have to make sure you both know where you are, what server you're on. With the friend codes you select the "friend" option for playing online and it finds your friend for you. As long as you're both online at the same time and you select that option you get to play against each other. I think it's easier than any other way out there. It takes all of 3 seconds to register your friend then you never have to worry about it again. Just make sure you're both online at the same time and there ya' go.Â
If you don't want to play against your friends select one of the other options and boom, you're playing against people from the world you don't know. Simple as that. I don't think there is anything wrong with the friend codes system.
Nobody likes friend codes, nobody wants friend codes, its an incredibly stupid move by Nintendo if they fly with it (unless it only concerns first party games in which case I won't bother looking at them twice for online gameplay). But If there's a cat in hells chance of playing random people like in MKDS and MPH then there might be hope for Wii.
[QUOTE="Staryoshi87"]People worry too much about the friend code system. It's worked beautifully for me so far. Here's an idea...make some REAL friends, huh? Seriously....Few people remember that you used to actually have to have your friends physically in your room to play games together....I actually liked it better back then ;) Boomarley
That was brilliant. Staryoshi87 wins this topic and the Internet.
I agree.. I mean seriously.. Let's let Nintendo do their thangg.
Nobody likes friend codes, nobody wants friend codes, its an incredibly stupid move by Nintendo if they fly with it (unless it only concerns first party games in which case I won't bother looking at them twice for online gameplay). But If there's a cat in hells chance of playing random people like in MKDS and MPH then there might be hope for Wii.tomarlyn
I wouldn't imagine Nintendo would make their Wii online system any different than the DS version. That wouldn't make much sense. I can't help but think it would be just like the MKDS one where you choose between friends, rivals, regional or worldwide. You'd be randomly matched up on the regional, rival and worldwide choices and you would be matched up against friends using the friends option. That seems to make the most sense and I don't have any problems with that way to do online play. Leaderboards would be an added bonus, but not neccessary in my opinion.
[QUOTE="Staryoshi87"]People worry too much about the friend code system. It's worked beautifully for me so far. Here's an idea...make some REAL friends, huh? Seriously....Few people remember that you used to actually have to have your friends physically in your room to play games together....I actually liked it better back then ;) bukato
Dude. i can only have my friends over on the weekends. Half of the time I'm grounded.(what do you suggest i do when my parents our out on the weekend while i'm grounded and have nothing to do) When i come home from school and finish my homework, i play video games, and playing by myself all the time is boring. so on the week, that's were online comes in. and plus i can also only play the PS2 with them because i only have one wii controller. Simple, quit getting grounded!!
All these people saying that the online will be the fall of the Wii are the same people that said the graphics would kill it. It seems that these people are wrong, because even with the Xbox360 getting a 1 year head start, the Wii has sold about half the number in 3 months. Same thing with the DS and the PSP, which btw is pissing me off cause I can't find a DS lite or Wii controller within 200 miles.Stolen_Kuniva
This has to be the worst comment I ever read about this topic. I've always believed in the Wii since the very beginning and I hate Friend Codes ! I don't want to have 28 different friend codes to play with friends or other people on the net, I only want to have one ! The system's code and that's it, why are you guys making it so complicated ?
People worry too much about the friend code system. It's worked beautifully for me so far. Here's an idea...make some REAL friends, huh? Seriously....Few people remember that you used to actually have to have your friends physically in your room to play games together....I actually liked it better back then ;) Staryoshi87
Yeah my prob is those friends in the same rooms are weak. I like competition and i dont see it around me. or the other way around. Im weak and i wanna play people my skill level. We use to need to be in the same room to talk to someone but we got phones now. we use to need to be in the same room to see somone but we got web cams. Online gaming is wonderfull in my eyes and parents should keep an eye on their kids who go online. just like they should keep an eye on them if they were on the internet, watcing violent movies, listening to music, or reading books that teach you how to build bombs.
People worry too much about the friend code system. It's worked beautifully for me so far. Here's an idea...make some REAL friends, huh? Seriously....Few people remember that you used to actually have to have your friends physically in your room to play games together....I actually liked it better back then ;) Staryoshi87
What if your REAL friends don't have a wii. and why does nintendo have a different code FOR EVER DAM GAME ?!?!?!?!?!?!? a different code for a different game. if they made it so it was your console number thing. i would be FINE with that...
[QUOTE="Mark2099"]I love XBox Live, too bad WiFi Connection is light years away from achieving it. chrisgopher
Suuuurrrrreeeee......
Hey you know what I love about WiFi?
IT'S FREE!!! id easily pay $50 to do away with friends codes and get the stuff that XBL has to offer on the Wii... on top of the $50 that i already pay for my 360's XBL.
[QUOTE="Staryoshi87"]People worry too much about the friend code system. It's worked beautifully for me so far. Here's an idea...make some REAL friends, huh? Seriously....Few people remember that you used to actually have to have your friends physically in your room to play games together....I actually liked it better back then ;) muhamaghat
What if your REAL friends don't have a wii. and why does nintendo have a different code FOR EVER DAM GAME ?!?!?!?!?!?!? a different code for a different game. if they made it so it was your console number thing. i would be FINE with that... the Wii, unlike the DS, only has one FC.
Nobody likes friend codes, nobody wants friend codes, its an incredibly stupid move by Nintendo if they fly with it (unless it only concerns first party games in which case I won't bother looking at them twice for online gameplay). But If there's a cat in hells chance of playing random people like in MKDS and MPH then there might be hope for Wii.tomarlyn
i dont see why there wouldn't be the ability to play random people online. what DS games do not offer that type of service, other than AC (which has an online component that wouldn't really work with random people in the first place).
If you guys really think that the Friend Code system was built to block predators, you are very wrong.
The system has already been by-passed. What is going to stop a predator from going to a 3rd party site? Nintendo has no control over it especially those sites that come with a fully functional chat room.
The Friend Code system is really nothing but a stop-gap solution to by them time to build a real online system. DarkMagik9
the FC system can't stop a "predator" if a "kid" posts his FC online, but it stops them from directly having an access of communication by just playing with the person online and seeing their SN. so no... its not this imagined "stop-gap solution".
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