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They're comparing them to todays level of gamesyup.
Do you spend 2007 money to buy the games?
If the answer is yes then I want the games measured by today's standards.
Jaysonguy
They're comparing them to todays level of games
Do you spend 2007 money to buy the games?
If the answer is yes then I want the games measured by today's standards.
Jaysonguy
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]They're comparing them to todays level of games
Do you spend 2007 money to buy the games?
If the answer is yes then I want the games measured by today's standards.
atomic_cheez
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]They're comparing them to todays level of games
Do you spend 2007 money to buy the games?
If the answer is yes then I want the games measured by today's standards.
atomic_cheez
They're comparing them to todays level of gamesThats bull though. Yes, I spend money to buy them. However, its not like buying a new $50 game. I'm spending $10 at most, and usually only $5 or $8. If you are looking on the VC for games that meet today's standards...then you are in the wrong place. I think they should be judged for what they were (and how fun they are today)...not what they are (in comparison to today's games). BTW...most games on the VC are a lot more FUN than the crap they sell in the store for $50 or $60. Games like FZero and even Zelda ALttP didnt become great games because of their graphics and sound...they did so because they were FUN.
Do you spend 2007 money to buy the games?
If the answer is yes then I want the games measured by today's standards.
Jaysonguy
[QUOTE="atomic_cheez"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]They're comparing them to todays level of games
Do you spend 2007 money to buy the games?
If the answer is yes then I want the games measured by today's standards.
hazbazz
[QUOTE="atomic_cheez"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]They're comparing them to todays level of games
Do you spend 2007 money to buy the games?
If the answer is yes then I want the games measured by today's standards.
hazbazz
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]They're comparing them to todays level of gamesThats bull though. Yes, I spend money to buy them. However, its not like buying a new $50 game. I'm spending $10 at most, and usually only $5 or $8. If you are looking on the VC for games that meet today's standards...then you are in the wrong place. I think they should be judged for what they were (and how fun they are today)...not what they are (in comparison to today's games). BTW...most games on the VC are a lot more FUN than the crap they sell in the store for $50 or $60. Games like FZero and even Zelda ALttP didnt become great games because of their graphics and sound...they did so because they were FUN. No... games like FZero and Zelda: LttP both had stellar graphics and sound for their time. They showcased advanced 'mode 7' effects and other sprite/scaling abilities possible with the advanced SNES hardware.
Do you spend 2007 money to buy the games?
If the answer is yes then I want the games measured by today's standards.
cpaschal
[QUOTE="hazbazz"][QUOTE="atomic_cheez"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]They're comparing them to todays level of games
Do you spend 2007 money to buy the games?
If the answer is yes then I want the games measured by today's standards.
JayMatthews06
[QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="hazbazz"][QUOTE="atomic_cheez"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]They're comparing them to todays level of games
Do you spend 2007 money to buy the games?
If the answer is yes then I want the games measured by today's standards.
Jaysonguy
[QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="hazbazz"][QUOTE="atomic_cheez"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]They're comparing them to todays level of games
Do you spend 2007 money to buy the games?
If the answer is yes then I want the games measured by today's standards.
Jaysonguy
[QUOTE="cpaschal"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]They're comparing them to todays level of gamesThats bull though. Yes, I spend money to buy them. However, its not like buying a new $50 game. I'm spending $10 at most, and usually only $5 or $8. If you are looking on the VC for games that meet today's standards...then you are in the wrong place. I think they should be judged for what they were (and how fun they are today)...not what they are (in comparison to today's games). BTW...most games on the VC are a lot more FUN than the crap they sell in the store for $50 or $60. Games like FZero and even Zelda ALttP didnt become great games because of their graphics and sound...they did so because they were FUN. No... games like FZero and Zelda: LttP both had stellar graphics and sound for their time. They showcased advanced 'mode 7' effects and other sprite/scaling abilities possible with the advanced SNES hardware. As an owner of both games when they were originally released, I disagree. Zelda's graphics were nice, but weren't anything stellar for the time. The gameplay and the fun factor sold both games. F-Zero, maybe was a little graphically great a the time, but the graphics were dated by the time the next generation of games came around on the SNES. Just like most games of the 16bit era, fun and gameplay sold the games. Unlike today, where devs think that graphics rule. So graphic whores will have a tough time picking through the VC, IMO.
Do you spend 2007 money to buy the games?
If the answer is yes then I want the games measured by today's standards.
PikaPichu
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="hazbazz"][QUOTE="atomic_cheez"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]They're comparing them to todays level of games
Do you spend 2007 money to buy the games?
If the answer is yes then I want the games measured by today's standards.
cpaschal
They're comparing them to todays level of gamesexactly what he said. sure they kind of underrate some games, but they are just going by todays standards
Do you spend 2007 money to buy the games?
If the answer is yes then I want the games measured by today's standards.
Jaysonguy
you will also have to take into consideration that you are using a different controller to play these games, so controls are also an issue.
They're comparing them to todays level of games
Do you spend 2007 money to buy the games?
If the answer is yes then I want the games measured by today's standards.
Jaysonguy
then nothing will have over a 5 in graaphics or sound, oh well.Â
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]They're comparing them to todays level of games
Do you spend 2007 money to buy the games?
If the answer is yes then I want the games measured by today's standards.
Dark_Knight6
then nothing will have over a 5 in graaphics or sound, oh well.
Also, other than seeing how the emulation is, one of the main points of virtual console review is to see whether or not its able to withstand the test of time, and to see how "high" or "low" it is in that respect - what is wrong with that? Nostalgia or not, its rare instance when person, of clear thinking, is able to enjoy most any game with same exact level of enjoyment from their first experience.
So, with that being said, why should any game, regardless of its "status," recieve same exact score if the feeling is not same exact way it was back than?
In addition, while nostalgia ("classic" status) should be put into consideration (and I believe that has been the case in fairly good majority reviews I have seen from GameSpot and IGN), however, at the same time, opposite feeling of specturn of certain things feelings "dated" should not be excused, either.
To be simple, if you are going to take one feeling into thought, person should be fair, and therefore, consider the other feelings, otherwise, for my liking, that is sign of bias and/or unclear/incomplete thinking.
Furthermore, you ever think about the possibility that some folks may have not played some of these games in the past, and therefore, notstalgia is not really factor? Or, for that matter, there are good amount of folks in my situation that, despite being around back in that era of gaming, did not have chance to play some of these games.
Anyhow, while I am on the point, that brings my next point. While there are some folks who will feel nostalgia for these titles (if that is the case for you and some others, for whateve its worth, I approve) , on the other hand, you need remember there will be others who will not be as "forgiving," and therefore, see some (if not most) of these titles, or certain elements of them, as being "dated." Well, for those folks, this is what these reviews are for - to see, as I have said previously, whether or not if the titles will be able to with-hold the test of time?
For my liking, I find these reviews to be helpful and therefore, necessary. To say that views on "classic" titles cannot be changed is silly. That is being unfair to modern titles that have been able to imporve on some of these formulas or, in other cases, created others.
Finally, if they were truly classics, in my mind, they would be able to, in sense, on some kind of degree, compete with the modern stuff, and therefore, with-stand the test of time.
On side note, some of these titles were not exactly great to begin with. Honestly, Urban Champion? Pinball? Soccer? Tennis? I played each of those titles "back in the day" and to be honest, I was not exactly "thrilled" by them back than - I seriously doubt passing time has helped matters (if anything, it has only damaged them).
[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]They should use the old review and re-review it then average the two out.
Jaysonguy
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]They should use the old review and re-review it then average the two out.
nintendofreak_2
I believe these reviews should be handled like EGM's Retro section with a "Then" and "Now" score.be_very_afraidWhile I agree with that would be good idea in theory, beyond the Nintendo 64, that kind of feature would be useless.
Also, you have to take into account, in all likely hood, over the years, some of folks who originally reviewed these games have left GameSpot and therefore, with that kind of comparison, more likely than not, there would be difference in who the reviewer was - needless to say, that kind of feature would probably be more troublesome and confusing than it would be helpful.
[QUOTE="cpaschal"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="hazbazz"][QUOTE="atomic_cheez"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]They're comparing them to todays level of games
Do you spend 2007 money to buy the games?
If the answer is yes then I want the games measured by today's standards.
Jaysonguy
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