Which Nintendo series has fallen the most? [Poll]

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#1 Solid_Snake325
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Which character has had the worst games compared to when they used to be popular? I included Crash and Sonic because they are now Nintendo characters, though they didn't used to be. I think Donkey Kong has hadthe worst games, like the bongo and racing games, especially since the first ones were so great. What do you think?
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#2 NitroSpark
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Donkey Kong probably had biggest fall, Crash was never great to begin with
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Being on a Nintendo platform does not make it a Nintendo character. The games are still on other systems as well, and they're still owned by SEGA and Sierra respectively.

To answer your question, I'm going to say Star Fox. I liked Star Fox Adventures and Assault was alright, but Command was just plain terrible.

DK has had a few bad games, but I found myself enjoying the King of Swing series, along with Jungle Beat and Donkey Konga. Jungle Beat was fresh and innovative, even if it did get pretty repetitive. I still want a new 3D platformer though.
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Donkey Kong

Rare helped make him the most boring franchise in Nintendo's library.

Hey where's DK going to be now? In the jungle.

Ok another DK title, what's happening now? In the jungle

Wow, up to three. What's new with DK? In the jungle.

Thank goodness that the franchise has the bongos and the innovative system on the DS or there'd be no reason to buy the games.

Get the monkey out of the jungle, save DK.

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Donkey Kong, unfortunately. Barrel racing just doesn't cut it... give me a 2D or 3D platformer, Nintendo.
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Donkey Kong

Rare helped make him the most boring franchise in Nintendo's library.

Hey where's DK going to be now? In the jungle.

Ok another DK title, what's happening now? In the jungle

Wow, up to three. What's new with DK? In the jungle.

Thank goodness that the franchise has the bongos and the innovative system on the DS or there'd be no reason to buy the games.

Get the monkey out of the jungle, save DK.

Jaysonguy
I agree that having him constantly in the jungle does get irritating.
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#7 SmashBrosLegend
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True, there have been some bad DK game lately. But are you guys forgetting about these:

Donkey Konga
Donkey Konga 2
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
DK Jungle Climber
DK King of Swing
Mario vs Donkey Kong
Mario vs Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis

All of those games got good reviews and sold pretty well.

Barrell Blast was the first DK game in a long time to have an average review of under 70%.
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DK sucked after DK64but DK JB was great though.
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Donkey Kong

Rare helped make him the most boring franchise in Nintendo's library.

Hey where's DK going to be now? In the jungle.

Ok another DK title, what's happening now? In the jungle

Wow, up to three. What's new with DK? In the jungle.

Thank goodness that the franchise has the bongos and the innovative system on the DS or there'd be no reason to buy the games.

Get the monkey out of the jungle, save DK.

Solid_Snake325

I agree that having him constantly in the jungle does get irritating.

Well actually he's only in a jungle in DKC1...

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Donkey Kong

Rare helped make him the most boring franchise in Nintendo's library.

Hey where's DK going to be now? In the jungle.

Ok another DK title, what's happening now? In the jungle

Wow, up to three. What's new with DK? In the jungle.

Thank goodness that the franchise has the bongos and the innovative system on the DS or there'd be no reason to buy the games.

Get the monkey out of the jungle, save DK.

Solid_Snake325
I agree that having him constantly in the jungle does get irritating.

Well, he is, y'know an ape. Besides, from what I remember the games only had a few areas of jungle. The rest were boardwalks, pirate ships, docks, mines, snowy mountains, caverns, etc.
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#12 shadowlink797
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DK by far. I really wish Nintendo would stop associating him with those bongos, sure Jungle beat wasn't too bad but they are pushing the bongos too much. They even made them his final smash in Brawl!
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I was going to go with Starfox however seeing the string of games featuring Donkey Kong to have come out as of late...it became clear that DK really has gone down further as those games were not well received at all.
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Crash Bandicoot and Sonic aren't even Nintendo series.

But To Answer the question, Donkey Kong has.

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Definatly Donkey Kong. His games suck nowadays. He used to be great and DK64 is one of my all time favorites, but all these stupid music games and racing games he's in just bug me. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET ANOTHER DK64 GAME????
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Crash Bandicoot and Sonic aren't even Nintendo series.

But To Answer the question, Donkey Kong has.

chaos_morrowind
I know they aren't, but I couldn't think of any other characters whose series was doing badly.
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[QUOTE="chaos_morrowind"]

Crash Bandicoot and Sonic aren't even Nintendo series.

But To Answer the question, Donkey Kong has.

Solid_Snake325

I know they aren't, but I couldn't think of any other characters whose series was doing badly.

Spyro isn't doing too good as of late.

Although I really like the Donkey Konga games, I voted DK as the one falling the most. I'm just waiting for something like DK64 again.

Star Fox 64 was my favorite N64 game and neither of the GC games really matched up to it. If Assault had less parts on foot and a lot more air levels, then I would've had it on-par with SF64. I'm definitely looking forward to Star Fox on the Wii though; the way they utilize the controls should be interesting.

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DK.
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Oh yeah, Spyro's is doing bad as well.
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Donkey Kong

Rare helped make him the most boring franchise in Nintendo's library.

Hey where's DK going to be now? In the jungle.

Ok another DK title, what's happening now? In the jungle

Wow, up to three. What's new with DK? In the jungle.

Thank goodness that the franchise has the bongos and the innovative system on the DS or there'd be no reason to buy the games.

Get the monkey out of the jungle, save DK.

Jaysonguy

that is a horrible statment. have not played the latest dk game hes goes erverywhere. not just the jungle. think abouut what you say next time

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#21 Gally66
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dk was rock steady with 64 but now theyre awful games
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#22 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Donkey Kong

Rare helped make him the most boring franchise in Nintendo's library.

Hey where's DK going to be now? In the jungle.

Ok another DK title, what's happening now? In the jungle

Wow, up to three. What's new with DK? In the jungle.

Thank goodness that the franchise has the bongos and the innovative system on the DS or there'd be no reason to buy the games.

Get the monkey out of the jungle, save DK.

dinofan01

that is a horrible statment. have not played the latest dk game hes goes erverywhere. not just the jungle. think abouut what you say next time

What game are you talking about?

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Donkey Kong... although I disagree with the people saying the jungle thing was irritating or old... I liked that - and like someone said before me - the games eventually venture from the jungle and become cooler...that's my opinion at least. I'd like to see a C. Falcon game where he's out of his car and walking around like he does in melee Falcon Punching everyone...:P
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Donkey kong/crash/rayman.
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crash and sonic arnt from nintendo and starfox recently had a great DS game. DK is curently failing hard time and it wont be good until another dk64 is released.
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Tie between Starfox and Donkey kong
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Donkey Kong. When was the last time he had a good game without bongos?
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DK. This franchise was very good in the SNES and N64, but in the GC it went down. It started making very regulargames using the bongos. I don't think the bongos were a bad idea, but Nintendo didn't use it well.They could be good in an extra for the game or something, but not as the central idea of the game. In the Wii, better not to mention it. So, I think that if this continue this way this franchise will come to its end.

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Which character has had the worst games compared to when they used to be popular? I included Crash and Sonic because they are now Nintendo characters, though they didn't used to be. I think Donkey Kong has hadthe worst games, like the bongo and racing games, especially since the first ones were so great. What do you think?Solid_Snake325

Get out. Quickly, this is serious! No one can say Crash and Sonic are nintendo characters... I can't believe a MGS avatar user says that.

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crash was never good to begin with i agree on donkey kong cause there has yet to be a new game that playes like dkc-64
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Donkey Kong. When was the last time he had a good game without bongos?meetroid8
the sequel in the DS. For me i go with StarFox, man i miss StarFox 64; but here is my idea o what StarFox Wii should be, tell me if you li-ke it:

First of all to start after assault, since Command had different endings.

-Have great grafics, just like Mario Galaxy if not better.

-Looong story mode, not a 10 mission story, that was veeeery lame, they can maybe implement the different paths thing from command but getting to the same ending or a similar one (LOL just reminded, like StarFox 64)

-A great Multiplayer, with of course online up to maybe 8-16 players (using different characters or the same ro maybe a neutral character can be ROB) with arwings, landmasters, and on foot, but with good weapons.

-Make Arwings much better, with reall loops and that things.

-Lots of options for multiplayer.

-Different characters to choos fo but balanced and each with a special power.

-Make mission real missions, i mean with these, to mae different tasks, just like Halo 3.

-Wi-fi Co-Op up to 4 players in story mode, each with a different character.

-Different arwing models to choose of.

-And last but most important of all (i think) .........................MADE BY NINTENDO and not by another publisher.

what do you think of these??

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#32 shroomario
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i voted star fox but now that i read all yours its definatly donkey kong
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donkey kong or snoic hard choice
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ummmm i think the star fox series went all down hill after the one for nintendo...

then donkey kong just became a aboslute joke... wth barrel racing? i rather throw barrels at alligators than race with them.

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Well come to think of it, Nintendo has had a history of fallen characters, which was primarily because they have been rushing games... Especially the Sonic ones. I'd have to go with DK though, his games are getting boring and his really good games only feature him as an optional characters such as the upcoming ssbb. Anyhow, the bongos was a pretty smooth test run but overall they aren't getting any better than that. Maybe if they can revive the bongos or make a game for Diddie Kong or Dixie Kong, those might sell pretty well...
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[QUOTE="Solid_Snake325"]Which character has had the worst games compared to when they used to be popular? I included Crash and Sonic because they are now Nintendo characters, though they didn't used to be. I think Donkey Kong has hadthe worst games, like the bongo and racing games, especially since the first ones were so great. What do you think?Nachician

Get out. Quickly, this is serious! No one can say Crash and Sonic are nintendo characters... I can't believe a MGS avatar user says that.

I meant that Nintendo bought their characters, I didn't mean it in the way you said. I was trying to think of two other characters whose series was doing badly.
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[QUOTE="Nachician"]

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake325"]Which character has had the worst games compared to when they used to be popular? I included Crash and Sonic because they are now Nintendo characters, though they didn't used to be. I think Donkey Kong has hadthe worst games, like the bongo and racing games, especially since the first ones were so great. What do you think?Solid_Snake325


Get out. Quickly, this is serious! No one can say Crash and Sonic are nintendo characters... I can't believe a MGS avatar user says that.

I meant that Nintendo bought their characters, I didn't mean it in the way you said. I was trying to think of two other characters whose series was doing badly.


Nintendo did not buy out those characters, first of all.

And what makes you think that those two series are doing badly? Crash just got a new game that has been reviewed pretty well.

And Sonic? Let's look at the most recent Sonic games:
Sonic and the Secret Rings-71%
Sonic Rush-83%
Sonic Rush Adventure-79%

Those are the Gamerankings scores. The average score is about 63%. Sure, Shadow and Sonic '06 were bad, but other than that Sonic has been just fine.
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Donkey Kong games have been pretty poor lately, Crash isn't even a Nintendo propterty...shouldn't be included on the list
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Also, for those of you who are saying "Those stupid bongo games" need to play DKJB. Wow! It's a great game and it was *gasp* made by the Galaxy team.
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It's between Sonic and DK for me but i'll go DK at least sonic's games have only been really going down since Heroes on home consoles, while portable (DS not PSP) he's still doing good but nothing compared to what he was in the early and mid 90's. But now Sonic is heading in the right direction on consoles with Secret rings, unlike DK and his half *ssed Racing spinoff. Rare made him great with the DKC series ands DK64, and now Nintendo Kill him by making DK spinoffs. Now he is doomed to only to appear in other Nintendo games like SSBB and Mario Kart. COME BRING ON A TRUE SEQUEL TO DK 64!
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Also, for those of you who are saying "Those stupid bongo games" need to play DKJB. Wow! It's a great game and it was *gasp* made by the Galaxy team.dieworm

Exactly. So many people refuse to give Jungle Beat a chance, but these same people go around blindly hyping Mario Galaxy. Guess what? Both games are made by Nintendo Tokyo, both games use a unique controller in the context of a platforming game, and both games feature a lot of similar gameplay elements. The reason Miyamoto chose Nintendo Tokyo to develop Mario Galaxy is because they did such a great job on Jungle Beat. So all those people who would rather die than give Jungle Beat a fair chance better go and cancel their pre-orders for Mario Galaxy lol.

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Donkey Kong had a great series of platformers but as we all know Rare left Nintendo to make crappy Xbox games (or in the case of Viva Pinata, a good game that no one wants to play). And without Rare, Donkey Kong feels like a lost cause. There's always hope that someone else might make a new DK country but DK might be better off just being another filler for the Mario Kart and Mario Party series.

Starfox gets an unfair rap at times. Everybody complained about "Adventures" but I loved it. Mainly the complaint was it didn't feel like Starfox, it played more like Zelda. Then came the dismal "Starfox Assault" which had some cool concepts but poorly done. The single player campaign was so short with no multiple paths and shooting on foot was just a mess. But then there was "Starfox Command" for the DS which took the series back to straightforward flying. Funny though that no one ever counts the good handheld games some of these characters have had. Let's hope the Wii installment of the Starfox series (i'm sure there will be one) will be a true successor to Starfox 64.

Crash, *sigh* You gotta feel bad for Crash. For a while he was the Playstation Mascot, winning over fans in Japan as well as the states, even having his own dance craze in Japan and the PS commercials featured a guy dressed like him talking about the PS1. But then Naughty Dog parted with Universal Vivendi and became a sole developer for Sony Computer Entertainment and went on to do "Jak and Daxter" and "Uncharted: Drake's Fortune." Crash was left behind and new developers took over and sadly they felt that Crash could only appeal to children and turned his games into a series of simplistic gameplay and fart jokes. Though "Crash of the Titans" showed promise, it still feels way to geared towards the tykes. The same thing happened with Spyro.

Sonic is a character who seems doomed to follow Crash's path. Though his first two 3D adventures on the Dreamcast seemed to be a promising start into the 3D realm, Sega can't seem to get it right. They spent the last five years simply cranking out fan service games to please Sonic lovers by making games based on their requests. That's how "Shadow the Hedgehog" came about. The problem is Sega is listening to dumb Sonic fanboys instead of reading the reviews to fix the problems. No more tedious adventuring, no more cars, no more guns, get some decent voice talent (or at least let us turn the voices off), and enough of making us play as lame sidekicks. If you want me to play as Tails, do a spinoff game with Tails. I want to play as Sonic and I want to run fast. "Secret Rings" showed potential mainly because it got a lot of things right: it focused on running fast, you weren't forced to play as a lame sidekick and the camera actually stayed behind Sonic. There were still control issues with the Wii remote setup. But we can't forget that Sonic has had some decent titles on the GBA and DS. Mainly because these are 2D adventures.

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I'd go with Donkey Kong not many games that make him the main character(the one with bongos wasent that good)and he didnt have many games for the newer systems
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#44 HaDoKeN_NaTe
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i gotta go wit star fox because there just not as much fun as star fox 64...i wish they would go back to just the way it was wit 64...it was fun and all that...so i'm goin wit that
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DK and Star Fox IMO.
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Probably Star Fox. Nothing beats the good old Star Fox 64. Nintendo should really make a better Star Fox in the future
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Sonic when it comes to over all for nintendo Donkey Kong. Comon nintendo when do we get a sequal to Donkey Kong 64!!!
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Sonic, Crash, Donkey Kong have all fallen from grace.
Star Fox (imo) never was or will be a top-tier franchise.

I could almost add Mario to that list. If it wasn't for the Paper games, I'd have written him off after SMW on the SNES.
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Sonic's game for the Wii wasn't bad at all if you ask me. I really enjoyed the unique gameplay and the story was a good change too. I'd choose Crash although he wasn't a Nintendo character in the first place.
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#50 bob_newman
Member since 2006 • 8133 Posts

Sonic, Crash, Donkey Kong have all fallen from grace.
Star Fox (imo) never was or will be a top-tier franchise.

I could almost add Mario to that list. If it wasn't for the Paper games, I'd have written him off after SMW on the SNES.
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Woah, you must be really bad at games if you didn't like Mario 64, or even Sunshine. You must not be a fan of videogames at all if you don't like them. Maybe you should quit now.

I mean, if they're not your cup of tea, that's fine. But to say he's fallen from grace?