Who else besides me thinks that Nintendo is NOT abandoning the Hardcore gamers?

Everyone was a casual at some point. People have to stop being so bigoted towards casuals.

The term hardcore has been lost over the years.

Hardcore isn't to just be great at a shooter. It's to be able to play a myriad of games genres and know the ins and outs of the industry as a whole. To just be great at FPS makes you an enthusiast.

Nintendo is bringing quality gaming to everyone, hardcore to casual.

Everyone was a casual at some point. People have to stop being so bigoted towards casuals.

The term hardcore has been lost over the years.

Hardcore isn't to just be great at a shooter. It's to be able to play a myriad of games genres and know the ins and outs of the industry as a whole. To just be great at FPS makes you an enthusiast.

Nintendo is bringing quality gaming to everyone, hardcore to casual.

Jaysonguy

You make a great point. So in that case of being a hardcore player or not. I will have to say i'm a hardcore player, because I play everything Nintendo has to offer and I'm great at it ^_^.

I wouldn't call either me or the Wii "casual". If I could, I wouldn't have bought the Wii. Litchie

You say that like you were forced to buy a Wii.

[QUOTE="Litchie"]I wouldn't call either me or the Wii "casual". If I could, I wouldn't have bought the Wii. killerkop

You say that like you were forced to buy a Wii.

I'm just saying that if I think the Wii is a "casual" console, I wouldn't have bought it..

[QUOTE="killerkop"]

[QUOTE="Litchie"]I wouldn't call either me or the Wii "casual". If I could, I wouldn't have bought the Wii. Litchie

You say that like you were forced to buy a Wii.

I'm just saying that if I think the Wii is a "casual" console, I wouldn't have bought it..

It's not a casual console

Their not aboning us but we aren't their focus, at the moment. Dark_Knight6

I wouldnt even say that, we got Zelda at launch. Now we have the big three coming in a span of 4 months starting next tuesday. Along the way we got things like Bwii, and afterwards we got Mario Kart, Disaster and so on. If Nintendodidnt care about hardcore gamers,they wouldnt spend years and huge amounts of resources developingthese games.Nintendo has simply expanded resources to the casual scene. The day that Nintendo stops developing Zelda, Mario, Metroid, DK and so on and only develop things like Wii Fit and Wii Sports, then I will say that they have abandonedhardcore gamers.

[QUOTE="Litchie"][QUOTE="killerkop"]

[QUOTE="Litchie"]I wouldn't call either me or the Wii "casual". If I could, I wouldn't have bought the Wii. Jaysonguy

You say that like you were forced to buy a Wii.

I'm just saying that if I think the Wii is a "casual" console, I wouldn't have bought it..

It's not a casual console

I know. Haha, guys. I'm sorry if I put that in a weird way, but english isn't my first language, so let's blame it on that.. :P I'm saying: If Wii was a casual console, I wouldn't have bought it. I don't think the Wii is a casual console, in other words. I don't think Nintendo have abandoned the "hardcore gamers".

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Litchie"][QUOTE="killerkop"]

[QUOTE="Litchie"]I wouldn't call either me or the Wii "casual". If I could, I wouldn't have bought the Wii. Litchie

You say that like you were forced to buy a Wii.

I'm just saying that if I think the Wii is a "casual" console, I wouldn't have bought it..

It's not a casual console

I know. Haha, guys. I'm sorry if I put that in a weird way, but english isn't my first language, so let's blame it on that.. :P I'm saying: If Wii was a casual console, I wouldn't have bought it. I don't think the Wii is a casual console, in other words. I don't think Nintendo have abandoned the "hardcore gamers".

Ohh, heck English isn't your first language? You do better then a lot of people born in the USA lol

No worries, I understand now

I believe they havn't ABANDONED us, per say. I do believe they have shifted focus. to a fault. I mean, just look at the hype ratio between mp3 and games like wii sports. I see a commercial for wii sports at least every week! and I have yet to see a televised advertisement for mp3. they havn't really hyped mario galaxy for that matter either. no one truly knows what is to happen after the holy trinity are released. I really hope it's not a year long slew of wii sportsish games. but don't get me wrong i love wii sports, but i love the "hardcore" games too. I want all of it...;)

Wii Fit

end of story.

Nintnedo spreads it's attention evenly between the casuals and the hardcore gamers but most of the hardcore gamers think they arent getting enough attention so they walk up and punch little brother casual gamer in the face and then whine at daddy Nintendo for giving casual gamer a game and not giving them one.:D

Everyone was a casual at some point. People have to stop being so bigoted towards casuals.

The term hardcore has been lost over the years.

Hardcore isn't to just be great at a shooter. It's to be able to play a myriad of games genres and know the ins and outs of the industry as a whole. To just be great at FPS makes you an enthusiast.

Nintendo is bringing quality gaming to everyone, hardcore to casual.

Jaysonguy

Agreed.

Their not aboning us but we aren't their focus, at the moment. Dark_Knight6

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]Their not aboning us but we aren't their focus, at the moment. Darthmatt

Unless you're wicked picky there's more then 3 titles this year that you want on the Wii. Then again you could be amazingly picky and that's terrific since games cost money but I think the majority of users of any system can find more then three games they'll enjoy.

As for casuals and novice players, what's the matter if they get games too? I mean why does it have to be that casuals and novice players get one title a year and the rest go to hardcore?

Back to the hardcore issue I think a game like Rayman Raving Rabbids is hardcore, why?

Yes the game is easy to pick up and play but at the same time if you plan on unlocking everything and getting the best scores in each events then you need to work on it. And heck for the people that think that hardcore games need some sort of firepower you shoot a plunger gun at the Rabbids.