Who thinks there will be an Animal Crossing for DSi?

I know I want one REALLY BAD!

i can't see where they'd imrpove but i wouldn't mind seeing the DSi as a whole new console, just depends on if nintendo uses the whole horsepower of it, and actually increases the DSi enhanced game card size

There already is one, it's called Animal Crossing

DSi/DS same thing

I doubt that they would, but that would be nice. I can't really picture anything else they would add from Wild World. Maybe better online and microphone/camera use. And ofcourse better graphics from the horsepower and stuff.

There already is one, it's called Animal Crossing

DSi/DS same thing

There already is one, it's called Animal Crossing

DSi/DS same thing

Jaysonguy

Yeah, people still aren't getting this. DSi will have exclusive games that take hold of the extra power, but the jump is not that significant to justify running this as the new protable for five years. The DSi is NOT NEXT-GEN, people!

so Jaysonguy you ever going to tell me how much CPU usage, how much RAM the DSi's Operating System needs at all times?

on topic: While i don't think AC could be improved much with any hardware leap, i'd love to see a new Mario Kart for DSi, letting up to 8 ppl play online so it doesn't kill a match when sore losers drop out

additionally, why does everyone think nintendo wouldn't abandon the DS for DSi? the whole point of DSi is the DS reached market saturation, and they've already done this with DS, and GBC, making good exclusive games that ignored the 50-70 million userbases of that consoles predecessor

i like how the DSi isn't a justifable hardware leap to people, even if all of the DSi power is used, even though the DS barely leaps over the GBA in terms of hardware. its a very comparable leap to DS-DSi

apparently adding touch and taking a CPU from 17Mhz to 67Mhz, allowing only one CPU to do 3D is nex gen (oh wow our handheld in 2004 now does 3D!!! well GBA did 3D too.)

but adding bigger screens, SD, a new way to play games with the camera, and taking the CPU from 67Mhz to 133mhz isn't enough

seriously guys, DS reached saturation point, 100 million, they bring this out, and will of course want to sell it more than lite, its already at 3 million in 4 or 5 months. So why, if they're going to have problems selling a 4 year old console purely coz its already sold so much, why wouldn't they get 100% behind the DSi? release cool important games at retail for it?

i mean if they think they can't sell the lite for many more years, you really think they'll be content aiming for 5-10 million DSi sales? no. they will want this thing to take off.

I seriously don't see it that way. I think the DSi is nothing more than a stop gap to boost sales of the DS and stretch out its lifespan before they release the next generation of handheld. That and a profitable way of testing out new media concepts for the next generation handheld. I think anyone who really believes otherwise is really trying to convince themselves that selling their DS to buy this new console was the right thing to do.

I know I sound quite arrogant, but can you really see Nintendo expecting everyone who owns a DS to go out and buy a DSi? Well i'm sure any greedy company would like that, but do you really expect people to do so? The casual market definately wouldn't throw the money away. That and the rest of the market will eventually be tempted by Sony's next offering and Nintendo will need to compete against that if it is to hold its majority market share.

Edit: It's a bit like when Nintendo released the Memory Expansion for the N64. There were few games worth buying it for and few people bought it anyway.

I seriously don't see it that way. I think the DSi is nothing more than a stop gap to boost sales of the DS and stretch out its lifespan before they release the next generation of handheld. That and a profitable way of testing out new media concepts for the next generation handheld. I think anyone who really believes otherwise is really trying to convince themselves that selling their DS to buy this new console was the right thing to do.

I know I sound quite arrogant, but can you really see Nintendo expecting everyone who owns a DS to go out and buy a DSi? Well i'm sure any greedy company would like that, but do you really expect people to do so? The casual market definately wouldn't throw the money away. That and the rest of the market will eventually be tempted by Sony's next offering and Nintendo will need to compete against that if it is to hold its majority market share.

Edit: It's a bit like when Nintendo released the Memory Expansion for the N64. There were few games worth buying it for and few people bought it anyway.

Raiko101

No its nothing like the memory exp. that didn't require a new N64

you could be right, it could be a stop gap, or it could be a new handheld

and why would anyone need convincing if selling their lite was the right thing? they still get the same great DS library, so long as they have the money to upgrade, i don't see what problem would a rise.

and i think the casual market will flock to it. nintendo knows how to market it. thats why Rhythm Heaven, and GTA say "plays on Nintendo DSi" at the end of their commercials

i mean wasn't the DS a stop gap until the next Game Boy? I see exactly why Nintendo would expect everyone to go out and buy DSi's coz they already bought DSs, they sold them on it, now they've added new games, new features. they convinced people to go GBC, and DS over their predecessors i have no doubt whatsoever nintendo can make the DSi a great sales success. Nintendo knows how to market handhelds

seems like a bad idea to me. it wouldnt be that big of an improvement (same system and all, basically). i know i woldnt pay for what's basically the same game i already have.

I didn't mean in it in that exact context, but I mean the technical advances wont encourage that many gamers to make the switch to the DSi. Anyways, I think new DS games will help sell the DSi, but not to those casuals who already own a DS, I don't think it'll do anything for them. Gaming not being their strongest interest, I can't see them paying what the did for the DS again for the DSi. That is unless some camera specific game is released and really creates a buzz like Brain Training did.

As well, I never personally saw the DS as a stop gap between GameBoys. Being hyped around the same time as the PSP gave the impression that the two consoles would be going head to head for some time. That and the leap was the biggest Nintendo Handheld leap in my opinion. The two screens, one of them being a touch screen, and the fact they were boasting 3D gaming on par with the N64. I just see that as a huge leap. The leap between the DS and DSi is more comparable to the GameBoy and GameBoy Colour. Fair enough the Colour had an exlusive library of games and lasted 3 years, but compared to the lifespan of the original GameBoy it didn't last long did it? Come to think of it, the GameBoy Advance only lasted 3 years as well. And now I don't remember where I was trying to go with all this lol.

I guess I just don't believe the technical leap of the DSi can make it stand out as it's own console. I see it rather as an extension of the original DS concept. Much like the GBA SD is to the GBA and the GBC was to the GameBoy. It may have a few exclusives, though most likely making simple use of the camera features, but I can't see it being expanded upon more than that. Maybe there will be a collection of downloadable games and applications, but that'll surely be to used to attract more casual gamers who are considering getting an iPhone, regardless of what Nintendo are saying.

I didn't mean in it in that exact context, but I mean the technical advances wont encourage that many gamers to make the switch to the DSi. Anyways, I think new DS games will help sell the DSi, but not to those casuals who already own a DS, I don't think it'll do anything for them. Gaming not being their strongest interest, I can't see them paying what the did for the DS again for the DSi. That is unless some camera specific game is released and really creates a buzz like Brain Training did.

As well, I never personally saw the DS as a stop gap between GameBoys. Being hyped around the same time as the PSP gave the impression that the two consoles would be going head to head for some time. That and the leap was the biggest Nintendo Handheld leap in my opinion. The two screens, one of them being a touch screen, and the fact they were boasting 3D gaming on par with the N64. I just see that as a huge leap. The leap between the DS and DSi is more comparable to the GameBoy and GameBoy Colour. Fair enough the Colour had an exlusive library of games and lasted 3 years, but compared to the lifespan of the original GameBoy it didn't last long did it? Come to think of it, the GameBoy Advance only lasted 3 years as well. And now I don't remember where I was trying to go with all this lol.

I guess I just don't believe the technical leap of the DSi can make it stand out as it's own console. I see it rather as an extension of the original DS concept. Much like the GBA SD is to the GBA and the GBC was to the GameBoy. It may have a few exclusives, though most likely making simple use of the camera features, but I can't see it being expanded upon more than that. Maybe there will be a collection of downloadable games and applications, but that'll surely be to used to attract more casual gamers who are considering getting an iPhone, regardless of what Nintendo are saying.

Raiko101

1. The DSi is not and never will be a new system

2. DSi games won't just be regular DS game that use the camera. That makes NO SENSE AT ALL(seriously,NONE AT ALL!!!!). As stated in another thread, they'll have better textures, more objects, better sound quality, better physics/AI, and better animations. Considering the DSi's potential, making silly camera games would be a waste of time and money. They'll most likely be greater in qualitybut few in numbers.

3. Just becausesome people won't be able to play DSi games, it doesn't mean that devs will only make simple games that aren't worth anyone's time just so the minority won't get angry.

There's a few more things, but I don't feel like explaining...

[QUOTE="Raiko101"]

I didn't mean in it in that exact context, but I mean the technical advances wont encourage that many gamers to make the switch to the DSi. Anyways, I think new DS games will help sell the DSi, but not to those casuals who already own a DS, I don't think it'll do anything for them. Gaming not being their strongest interest, I can't see them paying what the did for the DS again for the DSi. That is unless some camera specific game is released and really creates a buzz like Brain Training did.

As well, I never personally saw the DS as a stop gap between GameBoys. Being hyped around the same time as the PSP gave the impression that the two consoles would be going head to head for some time. That and the leap was the biggest Nintendo Handheld leap in my opinion. The two screens, one of them being a touch screen, and the fact they were boasting 3D gaming on par with the N64. I just see that as a huge leap. The leap between the DS and DSi is more comparable to the GameBoy and GameBoy Colour. Fair enough the Colour had an exlusive library of games and lasted 3 years, but compared to the lifespan of the original GameBoy it didn't last long did it? Come to think of it, the GameBoy Advance only lasted 3 years as well. And now I don't remember where I was trying to go with all this lol.

I guess I just don't believe the technical leap of the DSi can make it stand out as it's own console. I see it rather as an extension of the original DS concept. Much like the GBA SD is to the GBA and the GBC was to the GameBoy. It may have a few exclusives, though most likely making simple use of the camera features, but I can't see it being expanded upon more than that. Maybe there will be a collection of downloadable games and applications, but that'll surely be to used to attract more casual gamers who are considering getting an iPhone, regardless of what Nintendo are saying.

Nomoreblasphemy

1. The DSi is not and never will be a new system

2. DSi games won't just be regular DS game that use the camera. That makes NO SENSE AT ALL(seriously,NONE AT ALL!!!!). As stated in another thread, they'll have better textures, more objects, better sound quality, better physics/AI, and better animations. Considering the DSi's potential, making silly camera games would be a waste of time and money. They'll most likely be greater in qualitybut few in numbers.

3. Just becausesome people won't be able to play DSi games, it doesn't mean that devs will only make simple games that aren't worth anyone's time just so the minority won't get angry.

There's a few more things, but I don't feel like explaining...

Your second point just sounds like wishful thinking, which to be fair is only trying to counter my cynisism. We'll get nowhere arguing, but what the hell? Sure the DSi has this little extra power, but unless the majority of gamers put down their DS and pick up a DSi it doesn't mean anything. You don't need a faster processor to improve AI or physics. As some one studying Game Development at University I can tell you that first hand. Sure it can help a more powerful game engine run smoother, but a simple enough solution just takes some decent game logic and a good programmer to sort both of those issues out. Then you have to consider what sorts of physics advancment you really need for a handheld console that compares to the original Playstation and N64. How many DS games out there can you really improve on and why would they sell any better as a result? That and then you have the obvious reason the the extra processing power, which is there to support the camera and the game at the same time.

At the minute, and quite unlike darth psychosis, you sound like you're defending something with wishful thinking, which is both near impossible and a waste of time. Fair enough i'm attacking something with cynisism, but it's always better to expect the worst and be pleasantly suprised rather that expect it all and be massively disapointed. If the DSi ever becomes worthwhile, which at the minute it isnt, then it would have proved me wrong itself. It doesn't need defending from people who can only argue potential and possibilities.

Sorry about my tone in this message, but I saw your signature and took personal offence.

[QUOTE="Nomoreblasphemy"]

[QUOTE="Raiko101"]

I didn't mean in it in that exact context, but I mean the technical advances wont encourage that many gamers to make the switch to the DSi. Anyways, I think new DS games will help sell the DSi, but not to those casuals who already own a DS, I don't think it'll do anything for them. Gaming not being their strongest interest, I can't see them paying what the did for the DS again for the DSi. That is unless some camera specific game is released and really creates a buzz like Brain Training did.

As well, I never personally saw the DS as a stop gap between GameBoys. Being hyped around the same time as the PSP gave the impression that the two consoles would be going head to head for some time. That and the leap was the biggest Nintendo Handheld leap in my opinion. The two screens, one of them being a touch screen, and the fact they were boasting 3D gaming on par with the N64. I just see that as a huge leap. The leap between the DS and DSi is more comparable to the GameBoy and GameBoy Colour. Fair enough the Colour had an exlusive library of games and lasted 3 years, but compared to the lifespan of the original GameBoy it didn't last long did it? Come to think of it, the GameBoy Advance only lasted 3 years as well. And now I don't remember where I was trying to go with all this lol.

I guess I just don't believe the technical leap of the DSi can make it stand out as it's own console. I see it rather as an extension of the original DS concept. Much like the GBA SD is to the GBA and the GBC was to the GameBoy. It may have a few exclusives, though most likely making simple use of the camera features, but I can't see it being expanded upon more than that. Maybe there will be a collection of downloadable games and applications, but that'll surely be to used to attract more casual gamers who are considering getting an iPhone, regardless of what Nintendo are saying.

Raiko101

1. The DSi is not and never will be a new system

2. DSi games won't just be regular DS game that use the camera. That makes NO SENSE AT ALL(seriously,NONE AT ALL!!!!). As stated in another thread, they'll have better textures, more objects, better sound quality, better physics/AI, and better animations. Considering the DSi's potential, making silly camera games would be a waste of time and money. They'll most likely be greater in qualitybut few in numbers.

3. Just becausesome people won't be able to play DSi games, it doesn't mean that devs will only make simple games that aren't worth anyone's time just so the minority won't get angry.

There's a few more things, but I don't feel like explaining...

Your second point just sounds like wishful thinking, which to be fair is only trying to counter my cynisism. We'll get nowhere arguing, but what the hell? Sure the DSi has this little extra power, but unless the majority of gamers put down their DS and pick up a DSi it doesn't mean anything. You don't need a faster processor to improve AI or physics. As some one studying Game Development at University I can tell you that first hand. Sure it can help a more powerful game engine run smoother, but a simple enough solution just takes some decent game logic and a good programmer to sort both of those issues out. Then you have to consider what sorts of physics advancment you really need for a handheld console that compares to the original Playstation and N64. How many DS games out there can you really improve on and why would they sell any better as a result? That and then you have the obvious reason the the extra processing power, which is there to support the camera and the game at the same time.

At the minute, and quite unlike darth psychosis, you sound like you're defending something with wishful thinking, which is both near impossible and a waste of time. Fair enough i'm attacking something with cynisism, but it's always better to expect the worst and be pleasantly suprised rather that expect it all and be massively disapointed. If the DSi ever becomes worthwhile, which at the minute it isnt, then it would have proved me wrong itself. It doesn't need defending from people who can only argue potential and possibilities.

Sorry about my tone in this message, but I saw your signature and took personal offence.

Maybe I should stop putting insults in my sig... Ah, whatever. You shouldn't take any offense to my sigs since they're always insults and mean nothing.

Anyways, that last paragraph is exactly what I'm thinking. I'm expecting the worst and if something happens, then that'sGREAT!! But if nothing happens, then I don't care because I wasn't expecting too much anyways. I felt it wasnecessary to attempt to prove youwrong out of habit. I don't really care what happens. All I really want is a simple action game and Moving Memo. Once both happen, I'll be perfectly fine.

P.S. About the physics thing, you seem to have misundertood what I meant. Then again, I can't blame you because I was vague and didn't use the right words. Oh, well...

It's not likely, but I could see slight enhancements. Possibly taking a picture of yourself for your face and designs or something? Still wouldn't make sense...